Diane, I found that following: Test Book 1868 Feb(ruary) 1 Account 63496 506 W 25 Carman Born 1828 Co. Cork Arr(ived) 1850 per "Waterloo" Wife Johanna Above source(s) found on:ancestry.com AND microfilm roll 10 New York Emigrant Savings Bank, 1850 -1883 for Test Books AND microfilm roll 2 for Index Book Found the following on ancestery for a Johanna Doody and a Margaret Doody; Transfer, Signature and Test Books 1881(note date here and on the next line-new year started on the same page - Ro) Transferred June 9/82 (ancestry.com states 1881 Dec 28 note that page of listings starts here -Ro) Account 159719 Johanna X Doody or dau(ghter) 115 Tuck Ave. Hoboken HK(housekeeper -Ro) 1821 Co. Limerick 1880 Widow of James _Nee (K)eongh (unsure of spelling here -Ro) Margaret X " 1025(could be 1125 - Ro) Lawrence St. Domestic 1864 " Tippiy (exactly how this is spelled - Ro) " Fa " Mo Johanna " Microfilm roll 14 Please see my notes in ( )'s Hope this helps you some...let me know please, Ro [email protected] wrote: I would also appreciate a look up. John DOODY and Johanna (Hanna) Riordan DOODY I believe I found them in the 1850 census for Manhattan. They lived on Cherry Street in the 1860s, possibly sooner. They had their first child, David Joseph Doody, in 1854. Your time and talent is very much appreciated. Thank you so much. Diane in CA ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== To post a message to the Irish-New-York-City list, please send your email to: [email protected] ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Sheila, Please can you tell me what you mean by "CoI" ? Thanks, Ro Sheila Block <[email protected]> wrote: Terry and Marge, Have either of you used Griffith's Valuations to try and pinpoint either of these families in Monaghan? I checked McLeer and there are only 13 McLeer heads of household in the entire county, 8 of them in the Civil Parish of Tedavnet, 3 of those in the same Townland of Drumcoo. There are 2 others in the Civil Parish of Clontibret. It should make the search less daunting. The Maguires are another case entirely. There are zillions of Maguires! Griffith's is probably no help there. Are you sure these families are CoI? I printed out the McLeer report from my Griffith's CD and could mail it if you send me your address off line. Sheila MacAvoy Block ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== Please keep your anti-virus software up-to-date and run frequent scans! ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Other than very old editions of The New York Times, and The New York Herald ( and The Brooklyn Eagle) where can one find obituaries of New Yorkers during and following the Civil War? Genie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 3:00 PM Subject: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-D Digest V05 #136

Hi Sheila, That certainly put a big smile on my face. That's great news. Thanks for taking the time to share, it is so nice. I will be waiting for your envelope. Thanks. Marge from NJ

Great, let me look at my info again, I do have the full address on Beverly that they lived at. rom what I understand (after talking to a officer in NYPD just before 9/11, he told me that the address I gave him was in his precinct (sp?) What I can tell you right now without a lil' digging, is that it was a 3 diget address on Beverly Rd. (like 123 Beverly Rd. but not quite that low in the numbers..) You are a Doll & I thank you so much just for this info, & I will get right back with you as to the exact address.. (not real sure what you may or maynot be able to do with it, but I am all for a chance ....) It has taken like 30+ yrs just to get this far & this is my dads family. I have never run into people that just will/won't talk about themselves like these people will NOT do.. (I will explain that later..) Thanks again & I will get that addy for you just in a biut of hope you can turn up some kinda something on that place. at this point I am grabbing at strawsfor help with this line.. Maureen McConnell Unfortunately to far away from Brooklyn.... -----Original Message----- From: Bob Meyer [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 4:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [IRISH-NYC] Re: Bridge Street Maureen Bridge Street is located in downtown Brooklyn near Fulton Street - now it is mostly a shopping area. Depending on what part of Beverly Road they lived on it may also be considered Kensington, I live near Ditmas Ave only a few blocks from Beverly Road and I am in Kensinngton, pver near Ocean Parkway. Bob Meyer

Maureen Bridge Street is located in downtown Brooklyn near Fulton Street - now it is mostly a shopping area. Depending on what part of Beverly Road they lived on it may also be considered Kensington, I live near Ditmas Ave only a few blocks from Beverly Road and I am in Kensinngton, pver near Ocean Parkway. Bob Meyer __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Oops! My prior message should have read McAleer. There is only one McLeer in Griffith's and that party is in Donegal. Sheila

I would also appreciate a look up. John DOODY and Johanna (Hanna) Riordan DOODY I believe I found them in the 1850 census for Manhattan. They lived on Cherry Street in the 1860s, possibly sooner. They had their first child, David Joseph Doody, in 1854. Your time and talent is very much appreciated. Thank you so much. Diane in CA

Hi Sheila, My email got returned , please contact me directly. Thanks, Marge McAleer/Maguire

Terry and Marge, Have either of you used Griffith's Valuations to try and pinpoint either of these families in Monaghan? I checked McLeer and there are only 13 McLeer heads of household in the entire county, 8 of them in the Civil Parish of Tedavnet, 3 of those in the same Townland of Drumcoo. There are 2 others in the Civil Parish of Clontibret. It should make the search less daunting. The Maguires are another case entirely. There are zillions of Maguires! Griffith's is probably no help there. Are you sure these families are CoI? I printed out the McLeer report from my Griffith's CD and could mail it if you send me your address off line. Sheila MacAvoy Block

In a message dated 5/24/05, [email protected] writes: > Tracy the address you were talking about in Red > Hook, on Dwight St. I believe it is part of the > projects. I lived in Red Hook from 1950 until 1975 and > my family still lives on Dikeman St. > > Bob Meyer > Hi Bob, I thought the projects were a little further out? I remember my father taking me there when I was a kid in the 1970s, and the brownstone was still there. It's right across the street from thatl little park. I can't remember the name of it. (Actually it was the only time my father took us kids down there, as we were forbidden to go down to Red Hook.) Then again, that was 30 some-odd years ago, so it could have been torn down. Take care, Tracy IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY list admin http://www.irishinnyc.feeservers.com http://www.inyc.freeservers.com

Maureen, If your talking about Beverly Rd in Brooklyn == that would be Flatbush. I lived Beverly Rd and E 19th St. in the 1950's. Marge from NJ

Hi again all, another question. I know my dad was born & raised in the Flatbush area in 1925 on Beverly Rd. Here is my new question tho, where was Bridge St. (abt. 1920) I am guessing that this was a boarding house of some sort. This same address was listed on my grandfathers his app. for NA.. also know what ship he came in on & the date thanks to the Ellis Island website.. Sorry my first atempt was so shallow, but after 30+ yrs of hunting I still know very little about that end of my family.. Having said that, any & all help is greatly appreciated.. Maureen McConnell Very Proud granddaughter of NYPD. (I will explain that later as well if your interested..) -----Original Message----- From: Marge [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 9:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [IRISH-NYC] Re: Red Hook Maureen, If your talking about Beverly Rd in Brooklyn == that would be Flatbush. I lived Beverly Rd and E 19th St. in the 1950's. Marge from NJ

Sorry to stray here but any idea what area Beverly Rd. is considered in abt. 1925? Just wondering here. My dad was born & raised there. Maureen McConnell Just an immigrants grandchild -----Original Message----- From: Bob Meyer [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 7:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] Re: Red Hook Tracy Tracy the address you were talking about in Red Hook, on Dwight St. I believe it is part of the projects. I lived in Red Hook from 1950 until 1975 and my family still lives on Dikeman St. Bob Meyer

Is there a kind soul that can do a look up? Charlotte & Andrew Johnson (parents of Ann) James & Ann McCloskey came to NY 1854 with a 7 yr old son William. That is all I know about this family. I can follow the son from 1880 until he dies but I can't find his parents anywhere. I know its a common name. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. Mary in CA

The National Archives is in the Federal Building at 201 Varick Street near Houston Street in Manhattan. My mother takes Amtrak there sometimes to research genealogy from the Southern United States. Elizabeth Shannon -----Original Message----- From: Genie Coats <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, 24 May 2005 13:03:16 -0400 Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Re: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-D Digest V05 #124 Where are the Archives North located in New York City? Genie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 11:00 PM Subject: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-D Digest V05 #124 ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== Please keep your anti-virus software up-to-date and run frequent scans! ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Tracy Tracy the address you were talking about in Red Hook, on Dwight St. I believe it is part of the projects. I lived in Red Hook from 1950 until 1975 and my family still lives on Dikeman St. Bob Meyer __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/

Thank you for the offer, but I have already researched the RI State Archives for the birth of my wifes Grandfather circa. 1870, Cranston, RI. They have no record, and told me that was not surprising. I'm looking for the info on the sisters born in NYC. ----- Original Message ----- From: "bob ryan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] Surname HANLEY > Hi Ron. Those records would be at the church they were baptised in. Since > 1863 it's possible that whatever parish it was might have merged with other > parishes as the population of the area increased. Copies of the birth > records are available at the RI State Archives. I live in Providence, RI and > If you would like I can do a look up for you. Email me [email protected] > > Bob Ryan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roy Michel" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 3:07 PM > Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Surname HANLEY > > > > I'm researching my wifes, mothers family, HANLEY. Her GGrandfather, Joseph > > HANLEY, came to America, and married in NYC. His bride was previously > > married and I have not found out what it was. They had two children that > > were born in NY, Catherine HANLEY 1863 and Ann 1869. They moved to > > Cranston, RI, and their son Joseph was born in 1870. > > Would civil records be created from these births? Where would catholic > > baptismal records be kept? Thank you...........Roy Michel > > > > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > > To unsub, send an email with "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) to either: > > [email protected] (List Version) > > [email protected] (Digest Version) > > You can also unsubscribe from the website: > > http://www.irishinnyc.freeservers.com > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > Please don't flame anyone on the list. If you do, you will be unsubbed. If you are flamed, please contact the list admin privately. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

Hi Ron. Those records would be at the church they were baptised in. Since 1863 it's possible that whatever parish it was might have merged with other parishes as the population of the area increased. Copies of the birth records are available at the RI State Archives. I live in Providence, RI and If you would like I can do a look up for you. Email me [email protected] Bob Ryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Michel" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 3:07 PM Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Surname HANLEY > I'm researching my wifes, mothers family, HANLEY. Her GGrandfather, Joseph > HANLEY, came to America, and married in NYC. His bride was previously > married and I have not found out what it was. They had two children that > were born in NY, Catherine HANLEY 1863 and Ann 1869. They moved to > Cranston, RI, and their son Joseph was born in 1870. > Would civil records be created from these births? Where would catholic > baptismal records be kept? Thank you...........Roy Michel > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > To unsub, send an email with "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) to either: > [email protected] (List Version) > [email protected] (Digest Version) > You can also unsubscribe from the website: > http://www.irishinnyc.freeservers.com > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

> I have a couple questions. First, if an Irish Catholic couple wanted to get married in about 1858 to 1863, would they have > to apply to the NYC civil authorities for a licence? > No, Roy---they wouldn't. > Second, where would church records be kept? > At the rectory office of the actual church where the marriage occurred, unless the church has closed down. If that has happened, the records would likely be kept at a closeby parish where they were transferred to when the original church closed down. > I was just at the local Mormon Family History Center and noticed that not many Irish are listed in city marriage records. > Thank you...........Roy Michel > Absolutely true----most Roman Catholics and their clergy, and the Irish in particular, did not report their marriages to the civil authorities...this was perhaps a holdover from practices followed back home in Ireland. Good luck, Jim Garrity -- James Garrity NYC Genealogy Research Service, Cemetery Research & Photography http://www.NYCgen.com http://www.JimGarrity.com E-mail: [email protected] Vice-President for Family History and Webmaster, New York Irish History Roundtable, http://www.irishnyhistory.org Member, Association of Professional Genealogists Member, Godfrey Memorial Library, http://www.godfrey.org