I did not have to register. Just go down to where its says 1920 census and put in a name to search and the names come up. Mary in CA > At 04:05 PM 6/16/05, you wrote: > > >> > > >>Free access to Ancestry.com 1920 Census Images. for 3 days June 15, > > >>June 16, and June 17 ONLY > > >> > > >> http://www.searchforancestors.com/free1920census.html > > > > > > Poo. It keeps bringing me to a page to sign up to actually _see_ > > > anything. I can't see any way to get anything more than I can at any > > > other time, without signing up for a free trial. And I'm logged in, > > > too. > > > > > > Any ideas, before it runs out? > > > >You do have to register to get a username to access the databases, but > >you are not signing up for a free trial. Are you seeing a page that > >says "Register for Free" ? If not, try going through the above site > >again. You won't have to reregister, but starting over might get you to > >the free access this time. > > > >Kathi > > Apparently, it was just a browser thing. Ancestry doesn't want to > deign to recognize Opera. I went in to the same pages on IE and got > through. Found several family members, some that we didn't know > before where they were in '20, and will do some more tomorrow. > > I don't have a lot of faith in their index, though, since I found one > family that I happened to already know the address by going through > several EDs in the Bronx until I found the right one, and the name > looks right, but it's not indexed like what I saw on the page. Oh, > well :-). > > Thanks again! > Lorena /|\ > Searching for: F l a n a g a n (NY state), F l o r i o, C o c c i a, > M a r t i n g a n o; F o l e y, F e r g u s o n, M o r g a n > <http://silver-gateway.com/fam-tree/> > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > Please keep your anti-virus software up-to-date and run frequent scans! > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

> > > >Free access to Ancestry.com 1920 Census Images. for 3 days June 15, > >June 16, and June 17 ONLY > > > > http://www.searchforancestors.com/free1920census.html > > Poo. It keeps bringing me to a page to sign up to actually _see_ > anything. I can't see any way to get anything more than I can at any > other time, without signing up for a free trial. And I'm logged in, too. > > Any ideas, before it runs out? You do have to register to get a username to access the databases, but you are not signing up for a free trial. Are you seeing a page that says "Register for Free" ? If not, try going through the above site again. You won't have to reregister, but starting over might get you to the free access this time. Kathi

At 04:05 PM 6/16/05, you wrote: > >> > >>Free access to Ancestry.com 1920 Census Images. for 3 days June 15, > >>June 16, and June 17 ONLY > >> > >> http://www.searchforancestors.com/free1920census.html > > > > Poo. It keeps bringing me to a page to sign up to actually _see_ > > anything. I can't see any way to get anything more than I can at any > > other time, without signing up for a free trial. And I'm logged in, > > too. > > > > Any ideas, before it runs out? > >You do have to register to get a username to access the databases, but >you are not signing up for a free trial. Are you seeing a page that >says "Register for Free" ? If not, try going through the above site >again. You won't have to reregister, but starting over might get you to >the free access this time. > >Kathi Apparently, it was just a browser thing. Ancestry doesn't want to deign to recognize Opera. I went in to the same pages on IE and got through. Found several family members, some that we didn't know before where they were in '20, and will do some more tomorrow. I don't have a lot of faith in their index, though, since I found one family that I happened to already know the address by going through several EDs in the Bronx until I found the right one, and the name looks right, but it's not indexed like what I saw on the page. Oh, well :-). Thanks again! Lorena /|\ Searching for: F l a n a g a n (NY state), F l o r i o, C o c c i a, M a r t i n g a n o; F o l e y, F e r g u s o n, M o r g a n <http://silver-gateway.com/fam-tree/>

Thanks Vincent - I thought Luna Park was in Brooklyn, so I'm really confused why I can not find my family in the 1910 census. - Georgia On Jun 16, 2005, at 10:00 AM, IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-D- [email protected] wrote: > From: "Vincent Walsh" <[email protected]> > Date: June 15, 2005 7:26:06 PM EDT > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] Thomas Quinn family 1910 > > > Geogia, > > Luna Park was an amusement area in Coney Island similar to > Steeplechase. > Coney Island is part of Brooklyn. > > Vince----- Original Message ----- > From: "Georgia Evans" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 3:28 PM > Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Thomas Quinn family 1910 > > > >> I've been trying to find this family in the Brooklyn 1910 census for >> some time now. There is Thomas, aged about 39, wife, Emma, aged about >> 38, Genevieve, aged 16/17, Frank, 14/15 and Helen, 12/13. I had >> thought >> that Thomas had died by 1910 and the family scattered, but I recently >> found that he died in 1916 and is buried in Holy Cross Cemetery in >> Brooklyn. Other than going through the census line by line, does >> anyone >> have an idea how I can locate this family in 1910? I have not been >> successful in finding them in the directory after 1900 either. >> Another >> recent find was that Thomas was in the videograph?? and played >> cops and >> villians maybe at Luna Park. Is this not in Brooklyn? >> >> Thanks for any help. >> >> Georgia >

At 05:43 AM 6/15/05, Yvonne wrote: >I was sent this info, this morning if anyone is interested! > >Free access to Ancestry.com 1920 Census Images. for 3 days June 15, >June 16, and June 17 ONLY > >http://www.searchforancestors.com/free1920census.html Poo. It keeps bringing me to a page to sign up to actually _see_ anything. I can't see any way to get anything more than I can at any other time, without signing up for a free trial. And I'm logged in, too. Any ideas, before it runs out?

At 12:03 PM 6/16/05, you wrote: >Thanks Vincent - I thought Luna Park was in Brooklyn, so I'm really >confused why I can not find my family in the 1910 census. - Georgia I know the feeling -- I couldn't find my father's maternal grandparents *anywhere* in 1880. A couple of their sons had unusual names, and I tried searching for each family member and every variation of Ferguson I could think of, including letting the search use Soundex. I was beginning to wonder if the whole family had moved to Canada just long enough to miss the census :-). Someone finally found them, in Busti, Chautauqua, New York, under FURGRESON, with Irving Laverne FERGUSON listed as "Irvins" and Ulyssys Sinclair (aka "Lizzie") FERGUSON listed at "Ulissus." I got a PDF of the census page, and it sure looks like "Ferguson" to me, so it seems the person who did the index goofed. In other cases, enumerators spell things odd. Either way, "creative" spelling is a must for genealogy researchers :-). Lorena /|\ Searching for: F l a n a g a n (NY state), F l o r i o, C o c c i a, M a r t i n g a n o; F o l e y, F e r g u s o n, M o r g a n <http://silver-gateway.com/fam-tree/>

Having worked in the office of my parish cemetery, I can tell you that this is quite common. Usually the first burial is dug deep enough to accommodate 3 burials. If a wooden coffin & a wooden outer box is used, then other burials can be done in the same grave after approximately 25 yrs. The reason is the coffins will sink further into the ground & will also deteriorate. Peg

1920 Federal Census is FREE through Friday, June 17th- a great birthday gift to me I think! Ha! Enjoy the look-ups! Happy Hunting! Kathleen O'Donnell Grone Mars Opposition happens about every 26 months and the next Opposition occurs on November 7, 2005. It will be a very nice object to view in the telescope. It will be about 20 arc seconds across and it will be very bright. The prime times to observe it will be between now (early am) and Feb. 2006 (early to late evening). --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM & more. Check it out!

Elizabeth, The Four Courts were in the same building in Dublin at the time of the uprising, I suggest you use Google to obtain past and present information. Your local library will have a history of the uprising. Vince----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] Using Griffith's Valuation - IFHF June 18th,2005 > What Four Courts was the fire in that burned records? > > Elizabeth Shannon > > > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > List Administrators: > Tracy Cassidy [email protected] > Jim McCarthy [email protected] > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Geogia, Luna Park was an amusement area in Coney Island similar to Steeplechase. Coney Island is part of Brooklyn. Vince----- Original Message ----- From: "Georgia Evans" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 3:28 PM Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Thomas Quinn family 1910 > I've been trying to find this family in the Brooklyn 1910 census for > some time now. There is Thomas, aged about 39, wife, Emma, aged about > 38, Genevieve, aged 16/17, Frank, 14/15 and Helen, 12/13. I had thought > that Thomas had died by 1910 and the family scattered, but I recently > found that he died in 1916 and is buried in Holy Cross Cemetery in > Brooklyn. Other than going through the census line by line, does anyone > have an idea how I can locate this family in 1910? I have not been > successful in finding them in the directory after 1900 either. Another > recent find was that Thomas was in the videograph?? and played cops and > villians maybe at Luna Park. Is this not in Brooklyn? > > Thanks for any help. > > Georgia > > > ==== IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Mailing List ==== > Please don't flame anyone on the list. If you do, you will be unsubbed. If you are flamed, please contact the list admin privately. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

I'm looking for bits of info on one of my husband's great-aunts, Emily Florence Flanagan, b. 30 Jul 1901, d.1972 in Springfield, Massachusetts. She was later Sr. Mary of the Resurrection, Good Shepherd Order. Novitiate, Peekskill, NY, studied at the Haywood Institute of Music in NYC, and may have worked with the choir at Sacred Heart in the Bronx. I have a note from St. Monica's that her godparents were Thomas Flanagan and Annie Lanchey. I tried searching for a Haywood Institute in NY, and the only thing I found was a reference to the "Haywood Institute of Universal Song." This was in a listing on abebooks.com for "Universal Song Volume One" by Frederick H. Haywood. The cached page I found first gave the publication date as 1923, but a current listings say 1916 and 1917. http://dogbert.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=517972691 http://dogbert.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=94031879 I found no other references to the Institute. Haywood apparently went on to Eastman School of Music at Rochester. http://www.rochester.edu/Eastman/sibley/specialc/esmhistory.php Does anyone know anything about this Haywood Institute? Thanks! Lorena /|\ Searching for: F l a n a g a n (NY state), F l o r i o, C o c c i a, M a r t i n g a n o; F o l e y, F e r g u s o n, M o r g a n <http://silver-gateway.com/fam-tree/>

I've been trying to find this family in the Brooklyn 1910 census for some time now. There is Thomas, aged about 39, wife, Emma, aged about 38, Genevieve, aged 16/17, Frank, 14/15 and Helen, 12/13. I had thought that Thomas had died by 1910 and the family scattered, but I recently found that he died in 1916 and is buried in Holy Cross Cemetery in Brooklyn. Other than going through the census line by line, does anyone have an idea how I can locate this family in 1910? I have not been successful in finding them in the directory after 1900 either. Another recent find was that Thomas was in the videograph?? and played cops and villians maybe at Luna Park. Is this not in Brooklyn? Thanks for any help. Georgia

At 02:40 PM 6/15/05, Kathleen O'Donnell Grone wrote: <snip> >Question- is this common to have grave upon grave? I told my Aunt >about this and she had no idea where her Mother was buried and was >shocked I found out. She was thrilled! <snip> Apparently it's not terribly common, but we have four-in-one at Old St. Raymond's Cemetery in the Bronx. My husband's uncle wrote: "In the NYC cemeteries, it isn't uncommon to find two or three people buried in the same grave, but four is indeed rare. They received some special 'rate' back around 1950, when Emma passed away, for four interments. I told the grave crew to be careful when they mow the lawn there and not take the top off my Auntie's coffin...." The burials in this plot are: Emma Augusta Flanagan (nee Hall), d.1951 Fred Brumm (spouse of Marian Flanagan), d.abt. 1953 Edward John Flanagan, d.1955 Marian Brumm (nee Flanagan), d.2003 Emma and Edward are my husband's great-grandparents, and Marian was their daughter. HTH, Lorena /|\ Searching for: F l a n a g a n (NY state), F l o r i o, C o c c i a, M a r t i n g a n o; F o l e y, F e r g u s o n, M o r g a n <http://silver-gateway.com/fam-tree/>

Great News! I got some info on my Isabelle Creen O'Donnell. It cost about $25.00 for those interested. She was buried Holy Cross (1-718-284-4520) . She is in the Saint Ann section, Row H, grave number 34, no marker, under the Patrick Cadigam family grave, for a total of five people buried in this grave site. Holy Cross records indicate that while Isabelle was born on Oct 5, 1905, she died on Oct 4, 1938. Holy Cross said the gravesite had been in arrears since 1941 and there is no marker. Question- is this common to have grave upon grave? I told my Aunt about this and she had no idea where her Mother was buried and was shocked I found out. She was thrilled! Also, her husband listed her birthdate as October 12, 1906 and her father as Joseph Creen (His name is Ruffus Creen) on her death certificate. He had her name as Isabell M. On previous census sent to me by Wendy (THANK YOU!) she is listed as Isabell J. If it wasn't for so much of your (rootswebbers!) help and encouragement I would never have found this out! Someone, I can't remember who, I am sorry asked where I lived before moving here- Northeast NE, a town of about 5000, a small college town. After my Dad retired from the Air Force he taught college. For you New Yorkers and big city folks -- FYI -- It takes approx. 7 hours to drive from one end of South Dakota (E-W) to the other and there are less than 2 million people! I live in Lawrence County and there are about 15,000 people or less! Lots of land, lots of deer, lots of elk, a few mountain lions, and even people. Thank you! Kathleen O'Donnell Grone Mars Opposition happens about every 26 months and the next Opposition occurs on November 7, 2005. It will be a very nice object to view in the telescope. It will be about 20 arc seconds across and it will be very bright. The prime times to observe it will be between now (early am) and Feb. 2006 (early to late evening). --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel & more fun for the weekend. Check it out!

I was sent this info, this morning if anyone is interested! Free access to Ancestry.com 1920 Census Images. for 3 days June 15, June 16, and June 17 ONLY http://www.searchforancestors.com/free1920census.html Happy hunting Yvonne

Lauren, Thank you! for sharing the Brooklyn library info. That will be helpful once it is up and going. Elizabeth, Thank you! for reminding us about the Ancestry 1920 Census search. I have found quit a lot already. I have a question -- Can a person be listed twice on two 1920 census. For example, My James O'Donnell is boarding with his brother-in-law Eli Kellem and family. He is a widow with three children. On another Brooklyn census there is a James about the same age, widowed, listed as a boarder? I know it takes time to do hand written census. Could it mean he may have moved during the year? Or would it simply not be the same person? Thank you! Kathleen O'Donnell Grone Mars Opposition happens about every 26 months and the next Opposition occurs on November 7, 2005. It will be a very nice object to view in the telescope. It will be about 20 arc seconds across and it will be very bright. The prime times to observe it will be between now (early am) and Feb. 2006 (early to late evening). --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel & more fun for the weekend. Check it out!

What Four Courts was the fire in that burned records? Elizabeth Shannon

Don't forget the Williamsburg Bridge to Manhattan and also the Battery Tunnel from Brooklyn to lower Manhattan... Deb O'Reilly Midlothian, Viriginia USA home page: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/dcoreilly A&NESFHS #13005 WorldConnect at Rootsweb/Ancestry.com: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=dcoreilly Researching the Grassick and related families of Aberdeenshire -----Original Message----- From: Vincent Walsh [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] Five Points Info and Questions Kathleen, There is a Lafayette Street in both Brooklyn and in Manhattan. Brooklyn was a city until incorporated into NYC. Now, NYC consisted of Kings County (Borough of Brooklyn), The (and don't forget to use the "The") Bronx (Bronx County) Borough of Queens ( Queens County), Staten Island (Richmond County) Borough of Manhattan (New York County.) Each county is also a borough. Vince P.S. Brooklyn is separated from Manhattan by the East River and connected thereto by the Brooklyn Bridge and the Manhattan Bridge.

O'Donnell Clan Gathering Summer 2005 Red Hugh O’Donnell, 19th Lord of Tyrconnel died on the 5th July 1505 in Donegal Castle at the age of 78 and 44th year of his reign. This was the man who in 1474 had the castle and Abbey built in Donegal Town and to a great extent was responsible for establishing the town of Donegal. We, the O’Donnell Clan Association, intend commemorating this event with a Clan Gathering in Donegal Town commencing on the 2nd of July 2005. The itinerary has not yet been finalised by our committee but it’s quite likely to follow the pattern of previous Clan Gatherings. · Opening (about 7.30 pm) in the castle or hotel with finger food, harps, pipes, flag raising ceremony (in the Diamond), speeches, a talk on some aspect of O’Donnell history, some music, display of O’Donnell photos and genealogical charts, finishing about midnight with 'O’Donnell Abu' and our 'National Anthem.' · Tour of the county, visiting places with O’Donnell connections – Conwal Graveyard, Lifford Centre, Gartan, Doon Rock, Kilmacrennan Abbey, Rathmullan and returning to Donegal Town by nightfall. · Tour the west – Glencolmcille, Rosses – dinner in Danny Minnie’s with some local artists performing. Returning to Donegal by bedtime. · Visit castle and abbey. Trip on waterbus. Meet in hotel for ‘Open Forum.’ Banquet. The Donegal Community Chamber are planning further events along these lines– walk to Belshade or around the town concert with Irish flavour (we had a great one in 1980) pageant (1956 I think was the last) or play with O’Donnell theme unveiling a memorial to Red Hugh traditional Irish music in pubs talk on genealogy, irish dress through the ages or some other aspect of irish history Here are some contact facilities – Vincent O’Donnell, Secretary O’Donnell Clan Association, Inver, Co. Donegal tel.: (+ 353) 074 97 36059 e-mail: [email protected] web: www.odonnellclan.com Donegal Town Community Chamber, Donegal Town, Co. Donegal tel.: (+ 353) 074 97 23760 e-mail: [email protected] web: www.donegaltown.ie For the mountains may depart and the hills be removed, but my steadfast love shall not depart from you, and my covenant of peace shall not be removed, says the LORD, who has compassion on you. Isaiah 54:10 --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM & more. Check it out!

Hello Listers: On Saturday June 18, 2005 The Irish Family History Forum will have a speaker Donna Moughty, a professional genealogist discussing how to use Griffith's Valuation. The Valuation is the substitute for those missing Irish Census records burned in the Four Courts in 1922. It will be at the Bethpage Public Library 47 Powell Ave., Bethpage. The meeting is at 11:15 am. You can reach the library by car, just off the Powell Ave. exit of Oyster Bay Seaford expressway. The Long Island Rail Road is in walking distance of the library. Pauline Salmon San Diego