Genie, The Italian Genealogical Group has done a wonderful job transcribing many Bride & Groom records from NYC. You can find your choices at this URL. http://www.italiangen.org/databaselist.stm Frank Calif. Genie Coats wrote: >Question for the day: ( I haven't seen this one on Irish-NYC Digest before) > >Is there any other means to work with the NYC Brides and Grooms list, if one >doesn't live in the vicinity, other than through the LDS Library? > > Genie >----- Original Message ----- >From: <irish-new-york-city-request@rootsweb.com> >To: <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 4:08 AM >Subject: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 22 > > > >

Hi, I am new to this list. I am researching my GrGrGrandfather Daniel Buckley born 1820 in Ireland, his wife, Annie, children, John, Daniel, Solomon, Annie and Mary. The family was listed in the 21st Ward 8th District in NYC in 1870. His children were born in NYC (two that I know of settled in Philadelphia later in their lives). I would like to get the baptismal records especially for his daughters. They were Roman Catholics. Can anyone inform me of the procedures for getting them? Does the Archdiocese have a Historical Society or do you go directly to the Church? If so, can anyone tell me which Parish they might have belonged to? I am unfamiliar with New York research. Thank you. Susan Regan

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Searching for my gg grandmother, Agnes Gamble, b. 1810 in NYC, d. Bet. 1880-1891 in NYC, parents both born in Ireland (names unknown), m. Abt. 1834 in NYC Charles Eagleson (both parents Irish) b. Abt. 1810 (NYC), d. Abt. 1848 in NYC.

That's for that info. Any suggestions on how to research that? All my research so far has been in NY. Thanks.... ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

The FHC in Plainview, Long Island, has most of the NYC vital records indexes and many of the actual document films. I used to live in Port Jefferson and went there every Friday or Saturday. I live in Atlanta since 2003, but if I remember correctly, it is exit 46 on the LIE. Plainview New York 160 Washington Ave Plainview, Nassau, New York, United States Phone: 516-433-0122 Hours: T-F 10am-2pm; T,Th 7pm-9:30pm; Sat 11am-3pm Closed: Sun & Mon Third Sat of each month. Patricia Van Wagenen Heffernan The Van Wagenen, Harrison and Heffernan Families of New York http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/h/a/r/Patricia-V-Harrison -----Original Message----- From: irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of kzwillia@cox.net Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 6:14 AM To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] LDS and NYC Vital Records Try the NY public Library which 9s where I was able to access them. I spent two days at the library on Fifth Ave in NYC, a treasure trove. Try some of the other ones on Long Island by calling them in advance. Do a search on the internet and see if they have email addresses or what kind of records they have. Good luck. ---- Melanie <megan@cfl.rr.com> wrote: > Does anyone know if the microfilms of the NYC Vital Records (from the 1860 - > early 1900's time period) are available, without ordering and paying the > $5.50/reel fee, at an LDS FHC or in any other location other than the > Chambers Street Archives and Salt Lake City? > > I just saw that the microfilm of the Chicago Vital Records is also housed at > a local FHC, so thought perhaps that is true of NYC microfilm as well. > > Just trying to figure out my options for the next research stage when I've > exhausted the Italiangen database. I have relatives on Long Island so it > would be easier if there was a location there that I could use for research > on my next trip. > > Melanie > Florida > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have marriage info (March of 1899 in Brooklyn, NY) that I found on a passport application for my great Aunt, Wilhelmina HACHT and her groom Robert SCHALKENBACH. All attempts to locate the actual marriage record have failed. Do not know religious affiliation, but doubt that they were Catholic. Both were German. I strongly suspect that the marriage was not performed in a church -- a civil service seems more likely. All suggestions gratefully accepted. Patti Lakeville, MI -----Original Message----- >From: irish-new-york-city-request@rootsweb.com >Sent: Jul 11, 2007 3:28 AM >To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com >Subject: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 72 > > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Marriage brick wall.....Rolston - Schaefer > (MGundac102@aol.com) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:36:37 EDT >From: MGundac102@aol.com >Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] Marriage brick wall.....Rolston - Schaefer >To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <c8b.f742942.33c58015@aol.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >My grandfather was married in Hoboken,New Jersey in 1904.The bride &groom >were both from the lower East side of Manhattan. > >Peg > > > >************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > >------------------------------ > >To contact the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY list administrator, send an email to >IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-admin@rootsweb.com. > >To post a message to the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY mailing list, send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY@rootsweb.com. > >__________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com >with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >email with no additional text. > > >End of IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 72 >************************************************** ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

Good freakin luck, Peg. I've been looking for one there for 15 years. Seriously, mine was in 1882. I'm not sure it was required that marriage licenses were recorded at that time. You might want to check, Genie ----- Original Message ----- From: <irish-new-york-city-request@rootsweb.com> To: <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 3:28 AM Subject: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 72 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Marriage brick wall.....Rolston - Schaefer > (MGundac102@aol.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:36:37 EDT > From: MGundac102@aol.com > Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] Marriage brick wall.....Rolston - Schaefer > To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <c8b.f742942.33c58015@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > My grandfather was married in Hoboken,New Jersey in 1904.The bride &groom > were both from the lower East side of Manhattan. > > Peg > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY list administrator, send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY mailing list, send an email > to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 72 > ************************************************** >

My grandfather was married in Hoboken,New Jersey in 1904.The bride &groom were both from the lower East side of Manhattan. Peg ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

In a message dated 7/8/2007 1:29:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, pdhaney@comcast.net writes: I don't know about 1905 but in the 40's, some of my high school and college friends drove to Elkton, Maryland to marry. Thanks. I check that out. Maybe it's just a case of a misspelled name or the records not online yet, but it has been a stumper. Thanks, Dee ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I don't know about 1905 but in the 40's, some of my high school and college friends drove to Elkton, Maryland to marry. Apparently an immediate marriage license followed by an immediate Justice of the Peace marriage with no parental permission required. Also, no questions as to whether the bride was pregnant or not! Don Haney ----- Original Message ----- From: <LookingBack45@aol.com> To: <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 9:44 AM Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Marriage brick wall.....Rolston - Schaefer > Can anyone tell me where a couple living in Manhattan in about 1905 would > go > to get married if they didn't have their parents permission? I have not > been able to find a marriage certificate for a Margaret Rolston / Rollston > and > Joseph Schaefer and think that maybe they married elsewhere. Any help > would > be appreciated. The several that I've sent away for that were listed for > Joseph Schaefer / Shafer were not the right ones. > > Thanks, Dee > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In a message dated 7/8/2007 10:22:58 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, megan@cfl.rr.com writes: I'm interested in both Florida and New York locations so your info is very The plantation one is the one in Plantation, Florida which is near Ft. Lauderdale. I'll check my records because I did order some to be put on permanent hold, but it might be info that is now on the Italian web site. At that time I had to order the films to check for birth and death records. It's so much easier now with so much online. Dee ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I'm interested in both Florida and New York locations so your info is very helpful! ----- Original Message ----- From: <LookingBack45@aol.com> To: <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] LDS and NYC Vital Records > > In a message dated 7/8/2007 5:19:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > kzwillia@cox.net writes: > > I have relatives on Long Island so it >> would be easier if there was a location there that I could use for > research >> on my next trip. > > > > I miss read your post and thought you were researching in Florida. > > dee > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In a message dated 7/8/2007 5:19:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, kzwillia@cox.net writes: I have relatives on Long Island so it > would be easier if there was a location there that I could use for research > on my next trip. I miss read your post and thought you were researching in Florida. dee ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Can anyone tell me where a couple living in Manhattan in about 1905 would go to get married if they didn't have their parents permission? I have not been able to find a marriage certificate for a Margaret Rolston / Rollston and Joseph Schaefer and think that maybe they married elsewhere. Any help would be appreciated. The several that I've sent away for that were listed for Joseph Schaefer / Shafer were not the right ones. Thanks, Dee ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

In my experience it depends on if someone has ordered the films and they are housed permanently at the LDS that you work at. They usually keep a list of what is there and can check it for you. I've used some at the Plantation LDS and also Leesburg. What part of Florida are you in? I hadn't realized that the ordering price of the film had gone up. It's been awhile since I've ordered any. Good luck, Dee ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Someone else may have answered this but a good location to check would be the Plainview Long Island Family History Center in Plainview Long Island New York. I believe they have many NYC +++ films on indefinite loan( already there). Plainview New York 160 Washington Ave Plainview, Nassau, New York, United States Phone: 516-433-0122 Hours: T-F 10am-2pm; T,Th 7pm-9:30pm; Sat 11am-3pm If there is someone on this list with the Irish Family History Forum they may be able to add to this. Regards Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: <kzwillia@cox.net> To: <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 6:13 AM Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] LDS and NYC Vital Records Try the NY public Library which 9s where I was able to access them. I spent two days at the library on Fifth Ave in NYC, a treasure trove. Try some of the other ones on Long Island by calling them in advance. Do a search on the internet and see if they have email addresses or what kind of records they have. Good luck. ---- Melanie <megan@cfl.rr.com> wrote: > Does anyone know if the microfilms of the NYC Vital Records (from the > 1860 - > early 1900's time period) are available, without ordering and paying the > $5.50/reel fee, at an LDS FHC or in any other location other than the > Chambers Street Archives and Salt Lake City? > > I just saw that the microfilm of the Chicago Vital Records is also housed > at > a local FHC, so thought perhaps that is true of NYC microfilm as well. > > Just trying to figure out my options for the next research stage when I've > exhausted the Italiangen database. I have relatives on Long Island so it > would be easier if there was a location there that I could use for > research > on my next trip. > > Melanie > Florida > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Try the NY public Library which 9s where I was able to access them. I spent two days at the library on Fifth Ave in NYC, a treasure trove. Try some of the other ones on Long Island by calling them in advance. Do a search on the internet and see if they have email addresses or what kind of records they have. Good luck. ---- Melanie <megan@cfl.rr.com> wrote: > Does anyone know if the microfilms of the NYC Vital Records (from the 1860 - > early 1900's time period) are available, without ordering and paying the > $5.50/reel fee, at an LDS FHC or in any other location other than the > Chambers Street Archives and Salt Lake City? > > I just saw that the microfilm of the Chicago Vital Records is also housed at > a local FHC, so thought perhaps that is true of NYC microfilm as well. > > Just trying to figure out my options for the next research stage when I've > exhausted the Italiangen database. I have relatives on Long Island so it > would be easier if there was a location there that I could use for research > on my next trip. > > Melanie > Florida > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone know if the microfilms of the NYC Vital Records (from the 1860 - early 1900's time period) are available, without ordering and paying the $5.50/reel fee, at an LDS FHC or in any other location other than the Chambers Street Archives and Salt Lake City? I just saw that the microfilm of the Chicago Vital Records is also housed at a local FHC, so thought perhaps that is true of NYC microfilm as well. Just trying to figure out my options for the next research stage when I've exhausted the Italiangen database. I have relatives on Long Island so it would be easier if there was a location there that I could use for research on my next trip. Melanie Florida

I agree that most errors probably were due to the communication difficulties you mention. I made my post because someone was particularly interested in the date the census was taken. -Karen -----Original Message----- From: irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Genie Coats Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 5:21 AM To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 69 Correct, Karen. But don't forget the fact that during the 1800's the census taker probably didn't goany further than the 8th grade, and mostly less than that. He/she had to rely on spelling what they heard, whether it was correct or not. The other half of mistakes were made this way. And then there were those who were hiding members of their families or just didn't want to share with the government for whatever reasons. Genie Coats