Marge, I believe you may want to look to the street directories for 1858 New York (if there are any!) First find C B Hart and his address, then cross - reference with the churches. I was able to find the church where my great-grandfather married his 2nd wife this way as the church name was not recorded on his marriage record, only the name and address of the minister who performed the ceremony. Regards, Deb O'Reilly Midlothian, Virginia USA home page: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/dcoreilly A&NESFHS #13005 WorldConnect at Rootsweb/Ancestry.com: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=dcoreilly Researching the Grassick and related families of Aberdeenshire -----Original Message----- From: irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of irish-new-york-city-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 12:20 AM To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com Subject: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 90 Today's Topics: 1. Chrch (Marge Spille) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:49:16 -0400 From: spille2@webtv.net (Marge Spille) Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Chrch To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY124-DAV187FA87F4FB6C350E282CE4940@phx.gbl> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Hi List, In a marrriage notice Feb. 25, 1858, the couple were married by REV. C.B. HART. How would I find what Church he was connected with. Thanks for your help. Mrge ------------------------------ To contact the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY list administrator, send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY mailing list, send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 90 **************************************************

Hi List, In a marrriage notice Feb. 25, 1858, the couple were married by REV. C.B. HART. How would I find what Church he was connected with. Thanks for your help. Mrge

H List, I am need of finding where the Patrick Keelr family lived 1900 Census. 1880 census 299 Pacific St. Brooklyn,NY Patrick Keeler 55 Ellen 46 Nellie 18 Mary 15 John 10 Hannah 6 Hannah married in 1905 she lived at 102 Douglas St. Brooklyn. Thanking you in advance. Marge

Thanks for the info, Chuck, and everyone else who responded, especially Kathleen, with her very detailed reply. I think I need someone who has some of the data from the Presbyterian churches near where my grandparents lived in 1910. B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Wright" <cww@Reese-Carney.com> To: <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 2:37 PM Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Lost Marriage > Regarding Thomas W. Gordon m. Manhattan 30 May 1908 Cert # 9845, his > spouse was Ann Mulroy. (You can get the bride's name from the brides > index using the certificate number and county)Not the Thomas Gordon you > seek, apparently. > > -----Original Message----- > From: irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > irish-new-york-city-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:22 AM > To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com > Subject: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 86 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Lost marriage (Boyd Gray) > 2. Re: Lost marriage (JBurden@aol.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 15:52:43 +0100 > From: "Boyd Gray" <boydgray26@utvinternet.com> > Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Lost marriage > To: <IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY@rootsweb.com> > Cc: Barbara <barb_braswell20@yahoo.com> > Message-ID: <00dc01c8043a$ca32cbc0$0e01a8c0@ie.irishbroadband.ie> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Listers, > > This is the first time I have stepped outside Ireland to try to do any > genealogy so please excuse any silly errors. > > I am looking for the marriage of my maternal grandparents. My > grandfather, Thomas Gordon, arrived in Ellis Island on 12th June 1905. > He said he was on his way to join a friend, William Carmichael, at 1748 > Blair Street, Philadelphia. However, he was living at 315 East 33rd > Street in Manhattan in the 1910 census and I have no reason to believe > he ever left New York to go to Philly. My grandmother, Margaret Anne > Bellingham, arrived in Ellis Island on 16th May 1908, on her way to stay > with her sister, Mrs M Peden at 64 W 98th Street, Manhattan. Thomas and > Margaret must have married sometime before the birth of their oldest > child, Adeline. Adeline's birth date is given as 21st April (year > unsure) by herself, she was described as aged 1 on her last birthday in > the 1910 census (which would make her born in April 1909) but her mother > gave her birthday as 21st September 1910 when she arrived yet again at > Ellis Island in 1913! One wonders why these people can not get things > rig! > ht! > > In theory, the marriage should have been recorded in Civil Marriages in > 1908 or maybe even 1909 or at a push 1910. These are NOT the sort of > folks to have children out of wedlock! A good friend in Colorado had a > search of these three years done by the New York City Department of > Records and Information Services Municipal Archives and they came back > with a zilcho result last week. The New York City Grooms Index does > show a Thomas W Gordon getting married in May 1908 but this must NOT > have been a Thomas Gordon marrying a Maggie Bellingham or the Archives > folks would have found it. My own mother was born on 20th January 1917 > and the address given was 517 East 85th Street, Manhattan. The family > only returned to Northern Ireland in 1920. Is it possible they did not > register the marriage? This would be common in Ireland in 1870 but by > 1908, almosy all marriages would be registered. If they did register > it, would there be any reason whatsoever for registering it anywhere o! > utside Manhattan? > > I am now wondering how I might go about searching church records in > Manhattan. These people were Presbyterian. Does anyone know what > Presbyterian churches might be near any of the Manhattan addresses given > above. And how might I organise a search of these? Here in Ulster, I > would either go to the Public Records Office in Belfast, or visit the > local church itself. I have become quite obsessed by finding this > record even though it will not tell me anything new about my > grandparents. But then again, I believe that the stories of my > ancestors are more important than collecting names and I want to know > the end of this story! > > If anyone needs any help researching Irish ancestors in Donegal or Derry > in Ulster, let me know. > > Regards, > > Boyd > > ------------------------------ > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

So very many things are possible!!! Things we never dreamed of!!! That's why genealogy is so fascinating!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Chuck Wright To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:37 AM Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Lost Marriage Regarding Thomas W. Gordon m. Manhattan 30 May 1908 Cert # 9845, his spouse was Ann Mulroy. (You can get the bride's name from the brides index using the certificate number and county)Not the Thomas Gordon you seek, apparently. -----Original Message----- From: irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of irish-new-york-city-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:22 AM To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com Subject: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 86 Today's Topics: 1. Lost marriage (Boyd Gray) 2. Re: Lost marriage (JBurden@aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 15:52:43 +0100 From: "Boyd Gray" <boydgray26@utvinternet.com> Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Lost marriage To: <IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY@rootsweb.com> Cc: Barbara <barb_braswell20@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00dc01c8043a$ca32cbc0$0e01a8c0@ie.irishbroadband.ie> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Listers, This is the first time I have stepped outside Ireland to try to do any genealogy so please excuse any silly errors. I am looking for the marriage of my maternal grandparents. My grandfather, Thomas Gordon, arrived in Ellis Island on 12th June 1905. He said he was on his way to join a friend, William Carmichael, at 1748 Blair Street, Philadelphia. However, he was living at 315 East 33rd Street in Manhattan in the 1910 census and I have no reason to believe he ever left New York to go to Philly. My grandmother, Margaret Anne Bellingham, arrived in Ellis Island on 16th May 1908, on her way to stay with her sister, Mrs M Peden at 64 W 98th Street, Manhattan. Thomas and Margaret must have married sometime before the birth of their oldest child, Adeline. Adeline's birth date is given as 21st April (year unsure) by herself, she was described as aged 1 on her last birthday in the 1910 census (which would make her born in April 1909) but her mother gave her birthday as 21st September 1910 when she arrived yet again at Ellis Island in 1913! One wonders why these people can not get things rig! ht! In theory, the marriage should have been recorded in Civil Marriages in 1908 or maybe even 1909 or at a push 1910. These are NOT the sort of folks to have children out of wedlock! A good friend in Colorado had a search of these three years done by the New York City Department of Records and Information Services Municipal Archives and they came back with a zilcho result last week. The New York City Grooms Index does show a Thomas W Gordon getting married in May 1908 but this must NOT have been a Thomas Gordon marrying a Maggie Bellingham or the Archives folks would have found it. My own mother was born on 20th January 1917 and the address given was 517 East 85th Street, Manhattan. The family only returned to Northern Ireland in 1920. Is it possible they did not register the marriage? This would be common in Ireland in 1870 but by 1908, almosy all marriages would be registered. If they did register it, would there be any reason whatsoever for registering it anywhere o! utside Manhattan? I am now wondering how I might go about searching church records in Manhattan. These people were Presbyterian. Does anyone know what Presbyterian churches might be near any of the Manhattan addresses given above. And how might I organise a search of these? Here in Ulster, I would either go to the Public Records Office in Belfast, or visit the local church itself. I have become quite obsessed by finding this record even though it will not tell me anything new about my grandparents. But then again, I believe that the stories of my ancestors are more important than collecting names and I want to know the end of this story! If anyone needs any help researching Irish ancestors in Donegal or Derry in Ulster, let me know. Regards, Boyd ------------------------------ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Regarding Thomas W. Gordon m. Manhattan 30 May 1908 Cert # 9845, his spouse was Ann Mulroy. (You can get the bride's name from the brides index using the certificate number and county)Not the Thomas Gordon you seek, apparently. -----Original Message----- From: irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of irish-new-york-city-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:22 AM To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com Subject: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 86 Today's Topics: 1. Lost marriage (Boyd Gray) 2. Re: Lost marriage (JBurden@aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 15:52:43 +0100 From: "Boyd Gray" <boydgray26@utvinternet.com> Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Lost marriage To: <IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY@rootsweb.com> Cc: Barbara <barb_braswell20@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00dc01c8043a$ca32cbc0$0e01a8c0@ie.irishbroadband.ie> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Listers, This is the first time I have stepped outside Ireland to try to do any genealogy so please excuse any silly errors. I am looking for the marriage of my maternal grandparents. My grandfather, Thomas Gordon, arrived in Ellis Island on 12th June 1905. He said he was on his way to join a friend, William Carmichael, at 1748 Blair Street, Philadelphia. However, he was living at 315 East 33rd Street in Manhattan in the 1910 census and I have no reason to believe he ever left New York to go to Philly. My grandmother, Margaret Anne Bellingham, arrived in Ellis Island on 16th May 1908, on her way to stay with her sister, Mrs M Peden at 64 W 98th Street, Manhattan. Thomas and Margaret must have married sometime before the birth of their oldest child, Adeline. Adeline's birth date is given as 21st April (year unsure) by herself, she was described as aged 1 on her last birthday in the 1910 census (which would make her born in April 1909) but her mother gave her birthday as 21st September 1910 when she arrived yet again at Ellis Island in 1913! One wonders why these people can not get things rig! ht! In theory, the marriage should have been recorded in Civil Marriages in 1908 or maybe even 1909 or at a push 1910. These are NOT the sort of folks to have children out of wedlock! A good friend in Colorado had a search of these three years done by the New York City Department of Records and Information Services Municipal Archives and they came back with a zilcho result last week. The New York City Grooms Index does show a Thomas W Gordon getting married in May 1908 but this must NOT have been a Thomas Gordon marrying a Maggie Bellingham or the Archives folks would have found it. My own mother was born on 20th January 1917 and the address given was 517 East 85th Street, Manhattan. The family only returned to Northern Ireland in 1920. Is it possible they did not register the marriage? This would be common in Ireland in 1870 but by 1908, almosy all marriages would be registered. If they did register it, would there be any reason whatsoever for registering it anywhere o! utside Manhattan? I am now wondering how I might go about searching church records in Manhattan. These people were Presbyterian. Does anyone know what Presbyterian churches might be near any of the Manhattan addresses given above. And how might I organise a search of these? Here in Ulster, I would either go to the Public Records Office in Belfast, or visit the local church itself. I have become quite obsessed by finding this record even though it will not tell me anything new about my grandparents. But then again, I believe that the stories of my ancestors are more important than collecting names and I want to know the end of this story! If anyone needs any help researching Irish ancestors in Donegal or Derry in Ulster, let me know. Regards, Boyd ------------------------------

Hi Listers, This is the first time I have stepped outside Ireland to try to do any genealogy so please excuse any silly errors. I am looking for the marriage of my maternal grandparents. My grandfather, Thomas Gordon, arrived in Ellis Island on 12th June 1905. He said he was on his way to join a friend, William Carmichael, at 1748 Blair Street, Philadelphia. However, he was living at 315 East 33rd Street in Manhattan in the 1910 census and I have no reason to believe he ever left New York to go to Philly. My grandmother, Margaret Anne Bellingham, arrived in Ellis Island on 16th May 1908, on her way to stay with her sister, Mrs M Peden at 64 W 98th Street, Manhattan. Thomas and Margaret must have married sometime before the birth of their oldest child, Adeline. Adeline's birth date is given as 21st April (year unsure) by herself, she was described as aged 1 on her last birthday in the 1910 census (which would make her born in April 1909) but her mother gave her birthday as 21st September 1910 when she arrived yet again at Ellis Island in 1913! One wonders why these people can not get things right! In theory, the marriage should have been recorded in Civil Marriages in 1908 or maybe even 1909 or at a push 1910. These are NOT the sort of folks to have children out of wedlock! A good friend in Colorado had a search of these three years done by the New York City Department of Records and Information Services Municipal Archives and they came back with a zilcho result last week. The New York City Grooms Index does show a Thomas W Gordon getting married in May 1908 but this must NOT have been a Thomas Gordon marrying a Maggie Bellingham or the Archives folks would have found it. My own mother was born on 20th January 1917 and the address given was 517 East 85th Street, Manhattan. The family only returned to Northern Ireland in 1920. Is it possible they did not register the marriage? This would be common in Ireland in 1870 but by 1908, almosy all marriages would be registered. If they did register it, would there be any reason whatsoever for registering it anywhere outside Manhattan? I am now wondering how I might go about searching church records in Manhattan. These people were Presbyterian. Does anyone know what Presbyterian churches might be near any of the Manhattan addresses given above. And how might I organise a search of these? Here in Ulster, I would either go to the Public Records Office in Belfast, or visit the local church itself. I have become quite obsessed by finding this record even though it will not tell me anything new about my grandparents. But then again, I believe that the stories of my ancestors are more important than collecting names and I want to know the end of this story! If anyone needs any help researching Irish ancestors in Donegal or Derry in Ulster, let me know. Regards, Boyd

Boyd, Try going online to _www.churchangel/nycity.com_ (http://www.churchangel/nycity.com) . Group 2 includes Presbyterian Churches in New York City. Good luck. Jim B. (James Dineen Burden) ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

A recent post mentions this source. The whole book is available on line thru Heritage Quest and also Ancestry. Author is: Greenleaf, Jonathan A History of the Churches of all Denominations in the City of New York; from the First Settlement to the year 1850; New York: E. French, 1850. Tom

Good work, Frank. Genie ----- Original Message ----- From: <irish-new-york-city-request@rootsweb.com> To: <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:19 AM Subject: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 83 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Catholic Church Parishes of NYC (Frank McCullough) > 2. MEL'S SURGERY (Melanie Egan) > 3. Re: MEL'S SURGERY (Sheila E Fitzsimmons) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 09:14:12 -0700 > From: Frank McCullough <frank@ap.net> > Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Catholic Church Parishes of NYC > To: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <46F933D4.3020802@ap.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hello List, > > Just came across this online article about the history of the Catholic > Church in NYC and the Parishes of the City at what looks like 1850. It > can be found at this URL and the article is included in this email... > > http://thehistorybox.com/ny_city/nycity_worship_roman_catholic_church_nyc_1783_article00582.htm > > This was posted to the following site which has many NYC historical > facts & stories. > > http://thehistorybox.com/ > > Best wishes. > > Frank McCullough > California > > > > > The Roman Catholic Church In New York City 1783 > > > Date Article Posted 03/15/2007 > Article Tools > > > Sir Thomas Dongan, who was governor of New York under James II., about > the year 1685, was a Roman Catholic, and it was during his > administration that the first Catholic families settled in the city. But > the prejudices of the people against them were very strong, and under > the administration of subsequent Governors, very oppressive laws were > passed. There was even a law passed in one instance, for hanging every > Catholic priest who should come voluntarily into the colony. There is, > however, no evidence that this law was ever enforced. > > It is true that in August, 1741, John Ury, an Englishman, who was a > Catholic Priest, was publicly executed in this city. But he was indicted > as being concerned in what was called "The Negro Plot," which was a > supposed conspiracy of negroes, and others, to burn the city and murder > the inhabitants; and there is no evidence that the law formerly passed > against the Catholics was brought into view at all in this case. There > was, however, a most intolerant spirit reigning, as the consideration of > another fact will show. Before the Revolution, the port of New York was > the great depot of the captures made by the British cruisers. > > In the month of February, 1778, a large armed French ship was taken by > the British, near the Chesapeake bay, and sent into New York, for > condemnation. Among her officers was the Rev. Mr. De la Motte, a > Catholic priest, of the order of St. Augustin, in the capacity of the > Ship's Chaplain; and he, with the other officers, was permitted to go at > large in the city, within certain limits, on his parole of honor. Mr. De > la Motte was solicited by his countrymen, and by those of his own faith, > to hold religious service according tot he forms of the Catholic Church. > Being apprised of the existence of some prohibitory law, he applied to > the Commandant for permission, which it seems was refused; but not > understanding the language very well, Mr. De la Motte supposed he had > obtained the permission, and proceeded to hold the service. For this he > was arrested, and kept in close confinement until he was exchanged. > > Thus, until the close of the Revolutionary war, and while the English > laws were in force in the country, no Catholic clergyman was allowed to > officiate in this State; but after the war, and when the independence of > the country was acknowledged, full toleration was enjoyed, and every man > was allowed to worship God according tot he dictates of his own > conscience. The Roman Catholics in > this city took immediate advantage of this, and in November, 1783, a > congregation was formed under the ministry of the Rev. Andrew Nugent, > who it is believed was sent hither by the Bishop of the Roman Catholic > Church in Maryland. Their place of worship was in a building erected for > public purposes in Vauxhall garden, situated on the margin of the North > river, the garden extending from Warren to Chambers streets. One of the > most active men in this enterprise was Sieur de St. Jean de Crevecceux, > then consul of France, for New York, New Jersey and Connecticut, who > with Joxe Roiz Silva, James Stewart, and Henry Dufflin, became > incorporated on the 11th of June, 1785, by the name and style of the > "Trustees of the Roman Catholic Church in the city of New York." The > church not being well accommodated with a place of worship applied for > the use of the "Exchange," a building then standing at the lower end of > Broad street, and occupied as a court room, but failing in this, > measures were immediately taken for the erection of a church building. > > Ground having been procured on Barclay street, corner of Church street, > a brick edifice was erected, measuring forty-eight feet by eighty-one, > and so far finished as to have mass performed for the first time within > its walls, on Saturday, November 4, 1786. The services were conducted by > the Rev. Mr. Nugent, as pastor, assisted by the chaplain of the Spanish > ambassador, and the Rev. Jose Phelan. > > In the following spring, the name of the church was changed to that of > St. Peter's. > > Mr. Nugent continued to officiate until 1788, when he was succeeded by > the Rev. William O'Brien, who continued pastor of St. Peter's church > until his death, which took place May 14, 1816. The Rev. John Power, > D.D., succeeded Mr. O'Brien in the pastoral office, in which office he > remains, having now as a colleague, the Rev. Charles C. Pise, D.D. > > In the year 1836, it was found necessary to rebuild St. Peter's Church, > as the old one was going to decay, and was, moreover, altogether too > small to accommodate the increasing multitudes who resorted thither. It > was accordingly taken down, and a most substantial edifice of stone was > erected in its place, more than twice as large as the original building. > The corner-stone was laid with appropriate services by Bishop DuBois, > October 26, 1836. In September of the following year, public worship was > commenced in the basement, and on February 25, 1838, the principal > auditory was consecrated by Bishop Hughes. > > St. Patrick's Church > > For more than thirty years St. Peter's Church was the only Catholic > Church in the city of New York, but the denomination increasing rapidly, > another church building was needed for their accommodation. Accordingly, > in the year 1815, a very spacious stone building was erected on the > corner of Mott and Prince streets, and called "St. Patrick's Cathedral." > Here, within a short time, a large assembly was collected, and not many > years elapsed before it was judged expedient to enlarge the building. > When first erected it was 120 feet long and 80 wide, and now 36 feet > more were added to the length, extending the building from Mott to > Mulberry streets; and although there are no galleries in the house, > except an organ loft, yet probably two thousand persons can be > accommodated on the principal floor of the house. This cathedral is > considered the seat of the Episcopate in this diocese. Bishops Hughes > and McCloskey reside here, assisted by a number of the subordinate clergy. > > St. Mary's Church > > After the erection of St. Patrick's Cathedral, more than ten years > elapsed before another Catholic Church was built in the city. But the > Catholic population was fast increasing, especially in the northeastern > part of the city, and farther accommodations were needed for them. > Accordingly, towards the close of the year 1826, a building, then > vacated by the Seventh Presbyterian Church, was purchased, and a > congregation collected. The building was situated on Sheriff street, > between Broome and Delancy streets. It was a small frame building, with > a brick front. The church remained here between six and seven years, > when the building was consumed by fire. A large and convenient structure > was immediately erected on Grand street, corner of Ridge street, and > opened in 1833, under the name of "St. Mary's Church." The Rev. William > Starrs is pastor. > > Christ's Church, St. James's, and Church of the Transfiguration. > > In the year 1825, as related heretofore the Episcopal Church in Ann > street near Nassau became extinct, and their house of worship was > offered for sale. At the close of the following year it was purchased by > a church of Roman Catholics, then formed, who took the name of "Christ's > Church,"_ the name of the Episcopal Church, whose place they then > occupied. Of this church, the Rev. Felix Varela, then recently from > Spain, became pastor. They continued in Ann street, in ordinary > prosperity, until the year 1834, when the church edifice was consumed by > fire. This event led to the speedy establishment of two churches. The > congregation had become numerous, and a part of them, residing in the > vicinity of the East river, wished to locate in that direction. A large > edifice was accordingly put up on James street, near Chatham, and opened > in the year 1835,__legally holding the old corporate name of "Christ's > Church," but known among the people as "St. James's Church." The other > section of the congregation purchased a house of worship situated on > Chambers street, near Centre street, which had been occupied by the > Reformed Presbyterians, where they commenced service on March 13th, > 1836. This was called the "Church of the Transfiguration." The Rev. Dr. > Varela took the pastoral charge of this church, in which office he still > continues: the Rev. John M. Smith is pastor of St. James's. > > St. Joseph's Church > > Shortly after the establishment of the church in Ann street, as just > related, the Catholic population increased very greatly in the northwest > part of the city, and it became necessary to provide for their religious > instructions. This led to the erection of "St. Joseph's Church," > standing on the Sixth avenue, corner of Barrow street, which was opened > in the year 1833, under the ministry of the Rev. James Cummisky. > > The Rev. Dr. Pise, Rev. Dr. McCloskey, now one of the bishops of the > diocese, and Rev. Dr. Manahan, have successively ministered to this > flock. The Rev. Michael McCarron now holds the pastoral office. > > German Churches > > The emigration to this city, of Germans, has been very great for the > last ten or twelve years, and the German population in the city, at this > time, is computed at nearly thirty thousand. A large proportion of this > population are of the Roman Catholic religion, and, to provide for their > instruction, there have been established four German churches, viz: "St. > Nicholas's Church," in Second street, founded in 1835, of which the Rev. > A. Buckmeyer is now pastor; the "Church of St. John the Baptist," > situated on Thirtieth street, near Eighth avenue, founded in 1840, of > which the Rev. J.A. Jacop is pastor; "St. Francis' Church," in > Thirty-first street, > near the Seventh avenue, founded in the year 1844, of which the Rev. > Zachariah Kunze is pastor; and "The Church of the most Holy Redeemer," > situated on Third street, near Avenue B, founded in 1844, of which the > Rev. Gabriel Rumpler is pastor. In these churches the service is > conducted in the German language. As these churches are of recent > origin, the above facts comprise about > the whole of their history. > > St. Paul's Church > > A large Catholic population had settled at Harlem, and to accommodate > them with a house of worship, a large edifice of stone, measuring > seventy-two feet by fifty-two was erected in the year 1835. The Rev. > John Walsh is the officiating minister. > > St. Andrew's Church > > In the year 1840, another Catholic Church was formed, called "St. > Andrew's Church," under the pastoral charge of the Rev. John Maginnis. A > house of worship, originally built by a Universalist Society, situated > on Duane street, near Chatham, was purchased, and here they remain. > > Church of the Nativity > > Such is the style of a Catholic Church formed int he year 1841. At that > time the "Second Avenue Presbyterian Church," finding themselves > embarrassed, felt obliged to relinquish their house of worship tot heir > creditors. It was sold at auction, and purchased by this Catholic > Church. It has since been enlarged. A very numerous congregation > assemble here. The Rev. Edward O'Neil is pastor. > > Church of St. John The Evangelist. > > This church was founded in 1842. The church-edifice is of wood, rather a > frail building, but capable of accommodating a large congregation. It > stands on the Fifth avenue, near the Institution for the Deaf and Dumb. > The Rev. Felix Larkin is pastor. > > Church of St. Vincent De Paul > > In the summer of 1839, the Episcopal "Church of the Ascension," standing > on Canal street, near Broadway, was destroyed by fire, and that > congregation rebuilt their church-edifice on the Fifth avenue. In a year > or two after this, the site of the old church in Canal street was > purchased by a church formed of French Catholics, under the above name. > Their present house of worship was built in 1843. The Rev. Omnet Lafont > is the present pastor. The service is conducted in the French language. > > Church of St. Columbae > > This is the last Catholic Church formed in the city. It was organized in > 1845, when a large and handsome edifice was erected on Twenty-fifth > street, near the Ninth avenue. The Rev. Joseph P. Burke is pastor. > > List of the Roman Catholic Churches in the City of New York, with the > Date of their Organization. > > St. Peter's Church, Barclay street (1783) > St. Patrick's Church, Mott street (1815) > St. Mary's Church, Grand street (1826) > Christ's Church, Ann street (now extinct) (1826) > St. Joseph's Church, Sixth avenue (1833) > St. James's Church, James street (1835) > St. Paul's Church, Harlem (1835) > St. Nicholas' Church (German), Second street (1835) > Church of the Transfiguration, Chambers street (1836) > St. Andrew's Church, Duane street (1840) > St. John the Baptist (German), Thirtieth street (1840) > Church of the Nativity, Second avenue (1841) > Church of St. John the Evangelist, Fifth avenue, (1842) > Church of St. Vincent de Paul (French), Canal street (1843) > St. Francis' Church (German), Thirty-first street, (1844) > Church of the Holy Redeemer (German), Third street (1844) > Church of St. Columbae, Twenty-fifth street (1845) > > Churches 16 > > > Website: The History Box.com > Article Name: The Roman Catholic Church In New York City 1783 > Researcher/Transcriber Miriam Medina > > Source: > BIBLIOGRAPHY: A History of the Churches of all Denominations in the > City of New York; from the First Settlement to the year 1850; New York: > E. French, 1850. > > Time & Date Stamp: Mon Sep 24 2007 18:18:46 GMT-0700 (PDT). > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:25:46 -0400 > From: "Melanie Egan" <megan@cfl.rr.com> > Subject: [IRISH-NYC] MEL'S SURGERY > To: "Maureen" <mcshelly2@msn.com>, <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <00b101c7ffec$ee0cced0$020ba8c0@melaniefamily> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Maureen, > > Everything went O.K. Double check should be on Friday for Labs. Mel > says > HI & THANKS! She's not up to a lot of talk right now, but before the week > is > out I'm sure she will, call. > > > > > Love > to you and yours...............Pete > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:38:02 -0700 (PDT) > From: Sheila E Fitzsimmons <sefitz5@sbcglobal.net> > Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] MEL'S SURGERY > To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <258219.92273.qm@web82712.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Sorry but do not think this was meant for the list or me > > sheila e > > Melanie Egan <megan@cfl.rr.com> wrote: Maureen, > > Everything went O.K. Double check should be on Friday for Labs. Mel > says > HI & THANKS! She's not up to a lot of talk right now, but before the week > is > out I'm sure she will, call. > > > > > Love > to you and yours...............Pete > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY list administrator, send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY mailing list, send an email > to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 83 > ************************************************** >

> I am looking for information on Hugh Gaffney/Gafney, who was born abt > 1834 in Ireland, lived in the NY metro area and died Feb 1914 at the > age of 80. He fought in the 61st NY Infantry regiment during the Civil > War and survived after being wounded. I believe that he was married to > Margaret Byrne. He was related to the McArdle and Bartley families. He > is buried in Calvary Cemetery, in Queens (they are not able to provide > any further information). I am able to locate him in the 1850 through > 1890 censuses, but I don't know where he died and am totally unable to > locate a death certificate for him and cannot place him accurately in > my family tree - either my gg grandfather or ggg uncle. Please help. > > Mary W. Pullara > Confidential: This electronic message and all contents contain information from BayCare Health System which may be privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. The information is intended to be for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, any disclosure, copy, distribution or use of the contents of this message is prohibited. If you have received this electronic message in error, please notify the sender and destroy the original message and all copies.

Maureen, Everything went O.K. Double check should be on Friday for Labs. Mel says HI & THANKS! She's not up to a lot of talk right now, but before the week is out I'm sure she will, call. Love to you and yours...............Pete

Sorry but do not think this was meant for the list or me sheila e Melanie Egan <megan@cfl.rr.com> wrote: Maureen, Everything went O.K. Double check should be on Friday for Labs. Mel says HI & THANKS! She's not up to a lot of talk right now, but before the week is out I'm sure she will, call. Love to you and yours...............Pete ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello List, Just came across this online article about the history of the Catholic Church in NYC and the Parishes of the City at what looks like 1850. It can be found at this URL and the article is included in this email... http://thehistorybox.com/ny_city/nycity_worship_roman_catholic_church_nyc_1783_article00582.htm This was posted to the following site which has many NYC historical facts & stories. http://thehistorybox.com/ Best wishes. Frank McCullough California The Roman Catholic Church In New York City 1783 Date Article Posted 03/15/2007 Article Tools Sir Thomas Dongan, who was governor of New York under James II., about the year 1685, was a Roman Catholic, and it was during his administration that the first Catholic families settled in the city. But the prejudices of the people against them were very strong, and under the administration of subsequent Governors, very oppressive laws were passed. There was even a law passed in one instance, for hanging every Catholic priest who should come voluntarily into the colony. There is, however, no evidence that this law was ever enforced. It is true that in August, 1741, John Ury, an Englishman, who was a Catholic Priest, was publicly executed in this city. But he was indicted as being concerned in what was called "The Negro Plot," which was a supposed conspiracy of negroes, and others, to burn the city and murder the inhabitants; and there is no evidence that the law formerly passed against the Catholics was brought into view at all in this case. There was, however, a most intolerant spirit reigning, as the consideration of another fact will show. Before the Revolution, the port of New York was the great depot of the captures made by the British cruisers. In the month of February, 1778, a large armed French ship was taken by the British, near the Chesapeake bay, and sent into New York, for condemnation. Among her officers was the Rev. Mr. De la Motte, a Catholic priest, of the order of St. Augustin, in the capacity of the Ship's Chaplain; and he, with the other officers, was permitted to go at large in the city, within certain limits, on his parole of honor. Mr. De la Motte was solicited by his countrymen, and by those of his own faith, to hold religious service according tot he forms of the Catholic Church. Being apprised of the existence of some prohibitory law, he applied to the Commandant for permission, which it seems was refused; but not understanding the language very well, Mr. De la Motte supposed he had obtained the permission, and proceeded to hold the service. For this he was arrested, and kept in close confinement until he was exchanged. Thus, until the close of the Revolutionary war, and while the English laws were in force in the country, no Catholic clergyman was allowed to officiate in this State; but after the war, and when the independence of the country was acknowledged, full toleration was enjoyed, and every man was allowed to worship God according tot he dictates of his own conscience. The Roman Catholics in this city took immediate advantage of this, and in November, 1783, a congregation was formed under the ministry of the Rev. Andrew Nugent, who it is believed was sent hither by the Bishop of the Roman Catholic Church in Maryland. Their place of worship was in a building erected for public purposes in Vauxhall garden, situated on the margin of the North river, the garden extending from Warren to Chambers streets. One of the most active men in this enterprise was Sieur de St. Jean de Crevecceux, then consul of France, for New York, New Jersey and Connecticut, who with Joxe Roiz Silva, James Stewart, and Henry Dufflin, became incorporated on the 11th of June, 1785, by the name and style of the "Trustees of the Roman Catholic Church in the city of New York." The church not being well accommodated with a place of worship applied for the use of the "Exchange," a building then standing at the lower end of Broad street, and occupied as a court room, but failing in this, measures were immediately taken for the erection of a church building. Ground having been procured on Barclay street, corner of Church street, a brick edifice was erected, measuring forty-eight feet by eighty-one, and so far finished as to have mass performed for the first time within its walls, on Saturday, November 4, 1786. The services were conducted by the Rev. Mr. Nugent, as pastor, assisted by the chaplain of the Spanish ambassador, and the Rev. Jose Phelan. In the following spring, the name of the church was changed to that of St. Peter's. Mr. Nugent continued to officiate until 1788, when he was succeeded by the Rev. William O'Brien, who continued pastor of St. Peter's church until his death, which took place May 14, 1816. The Rev. John Power, D.D., succeeded Mr. O'Brien in the pastoral office, in which office he remains, having now as a colleague, the Rev. Charles C. Pise, D.D. In the year 1836, it was found necessary to rebuild St. Peter's Church, as the old one was going to decay, and was, moreover, altogether too small to accommodate the increasing multitudes who resorted thither. It was accordingly taken down, and a most substantial edifice of stone was erected in its place, more than twice as large as the original building. The corner-stone was laid with appropriate services by Bishop DuBois, October 26, 1836. In September of the following year, public worship was commenced in the basement, and on February 25, 1838, the principal auditory was consecrated by Bishop Hughes. St. Patrick's Church For more than thirty years St. Peter's Church was the only Catholic Church in the city of New York, but the denomination increasing rapidly, another church building was needed for their accommodation. Accordingly, in the year 1815, a very spacious stone building was erected on the corner of Mott and Prince streets, and called "St. Patrick's Cathedral." Here, within a short time, a large assembly was collected, and not many years elapsed before it was judged expedient to enlarge the building. When first erected it was 120 feet long and 80 wide, and now 36 feet more were added to the length, extending the building from Mott to Mulberry streets; and although there are no galleries in the house, except an organ loft, yet probably two thousand persons can be accommodated on the principal floor of the house. This cathedral is considered the seat of the Episcopate in this diocese. Bishops Hughes and McCloskey reside here, assisted by a number of the subordinate clergy. St. Mary's Church After the erection of St. Patrick's Cathedral, more than ten years elapsed before another Catholic Church was built in the city. But the Catholic population was fast increasing, especially in the northeastern part of the city, and farther accommodations were needed for them. Accordingly, towards the close of the year 1826, a building, then vacated by the Seventh Presbyterian Church, was purchased, and a congregation collected. The building was situated on Sheriff street, between Broome and Delancy streets. It was a small frame building, with a brick front. The church remained here between six and seven years, when the building was consumed by fire. A large and convenient structure was immediately erected on Grand street, corner of Ridge street, and opened in 1833, under the name of "St. Mary's Church." The Rev. William Starrs is pastor. Christ's Church, St. James's, and Church of the Transfiguration. In the year 1825, as related heretofore the Episcopal Church in Ann street near Nassau became extinct, and their house of worship was offered for sale. At the close of the following year it was purchased by a church of Roman Catholics, then formed, who took the name of "Christ's Church,"_ the name of the Episcopal Church, whose place they then occupied. Of this church, the Rev. Felix Varela, then recently from Spain, became pastor. They continued in Ann street, in ordinary prosperity, until the year 1834, when the church edifice was consumed by fire. This event led to the speedy establishment of two churches. The congregation had become numerous, and a part of them, residing in the vicinity of the East river, wished to locate in that direction. A large edifice was accordingly put up on James street, near Chatham, and opened in the year 1835,__legally holding the old corporate name of "Christ's Church," but known among the people as "St. James's Church." The other section of the congregation purchased a house of worship situated on Chambers street, near Centre street, which had been occupied by the Reformed Presbyterians, where they commenced service on March 13th, 1836. This was called the "Church of the Transfiguration." The Rev. Dr. Varela took the pastoral charge of this church, in which office he still continues: the Rev. John M. Smith is pastor of St. James's. St. Joseph's Church Shortly after the establishment of the church in Ann street, as just related, the Catholic population increased very greatly in the northwest part of the city, and it became necessary to provide for their religious instructions. This led to the erection of "St. Joseph's Church," standing on the Sixth avenue, corner of Barrow street, which was opened in the year 1833, under the ministry of the Rev. James Cummisky. The Rev. Dr. Pise, Rev. Dr. McCloskey, now one of the bishops of the diocese, and Rev. Dr. Manahan, have successively ministered to this flock. The Rev. Michael McCarron now holds the pastoral office. German Churches The emigration to this city, of Germans, has been very great for the last ten or twelve years, and the German population in the city, at this time, is computed at nearly thirty thousand. A large proportion of this population are of the Roman Catholic religion, and, to provide for their instruction, there have been established four German churches, viz: "St. Nicholas's Church," in Second street, founded in 1835, of which the Rev. A. Buckmeyer is now pastor; the "Church of St. John the Baptist," situated on Thirtieth street, near Eighth avenue, founded in 1840, of which the Rev. J.A. Jacop is pastor; "St. Francis' Church," in Thirty-first street, near the Seventh avenue, founded in the year 1844, of which the Rev. Zachariah Kunze is pastor; and "The Church of the most Holy Redeemer," situated on Third street, near Avenue B, founded in 1844, of which the Rev. Gabriel Rumpler is pastor. In these churches the service is conducted in the German language. As these churches are of recent origin, the above facts comprise about the whole of their history. St. Paul's Church A large Catholic population had settled at Harlem, and to accommodate them with a house of worship, a large edifice of stone, measuring seventy-two feet by fifty-two was erected in the year 1835. The Rev. John Walsh is the officiating minister. St. Andrew's Church In the year 1840, another Catholic Church was formed, called "St. Andrew's Church," under the pastoral charge of the Rev. John Maginnis. A house of worship, originally built by a Universalist Society, situated on Duane street, near Chatham, was purchased, and here they remain. Church of the Nativity Such is the style of a Catholic Church formed int he year 1841. At that time the "Second Avenue Presbyterian Church," finding themselves embarrassed, felt obliged to relinquish their house of worship tot heir creditors. It was sold at auction, and purchased by this Catholic Church. It has since been enlarged. A very numerous congregation assemble here. The Rev. Edward O'Neil is pastor. Church of St. John The Evangelist. This church was founded in 1842. The church-edifice is of wood, rather a frail building, but capable of accommodating a large congregation. It stands on the Fifth avenue, near the Institution for the Deaf and Dumb. The Rev. Felix Larkin is pastor. Church of St. Vincent De Paul In the summer of 1839, the Episcopal "Church of the Ascension," standing on Canal street, near Broadway, was destroyed by fire, and that congregation rebuilt their church-edifice on the Fifth avenue. In a year or two after this, the site of the old church in Canal street was purchased by a church formed of French Catholics, under the above name. Their present house of worship was built in 1843. The Rev. Omnet Lafont is the present pastor. The service is conducted in the French language. Church of St. Columbae This is the last Catholic Church formed in the city. It was organized in 1845, when a large and handsome edifice was erected on Twenty-fifth street, near the Ninth avenue. The Rev. Joseph P. Burke is pastor. List of the Roman Catholic Churches in the City of New York, with the Date of their Organization. St. Peter's Church, Barclay street (1783) St. Patrick's Church, Mott street (1815) St. Mary's Church, Grand street (1826) Christ's Church, Ann street (now extinct) (1826) St. Joseph's Church, Sixth avenue (1833) St. James's Church, James street (1835) St. Paul's Church, Harlem (1835) St. Nicholas' Church (German), Second street (1835) Church of the Transfiguration, Chambers street (1836) St. Andrew's Church, Duane street (1840) St. John the Baptist (German), Thirtieth street (1840) Church of the Nativity, Second avenue (1841) Church of St. John the Evangelist, Fifth avenue, (1842) Church of St. Vincent de Paul (French), Canal street (1843) St. Francis' Church (German), Thirty-first street, (1844) Church of the Holy Redeemer (German), Third street (1844) Church of St. Columbae, Twenty-fifth street (1845) Churches 16 Website: The History Box.com Article Name: The Roman Catholic Church In New York City 1783 Researcher/Transcriber Miriam Medina Source: BIBLIOGRAPHY: A History of the Churches of all Denominations in the City of New York; from the First Settlement to the year 1850; New York: E. French, 1850. Time & Date Stamp: Mon Sep 24 2007 18:18:46 GMT-0700 (PDT).

Thomas F. Maguire born 2/9/1849 in Ireland and died October 20, 1913 at 107 East 89th Street, Manhattan, NY. He was the son of John Maguire and Catherine Pyne. Looking for institution/orphanage in NYC area where his two adopted children (brother and sister), Ethel May (dod: 8/12/1902) and Robert (dob: 12/21/04) were placed in 1913 or shortly thereafter. Thomas F. Maguire was married to Ellen (aka Nellie/Olivia) Crossman who was born 12/25/1879, and married Thomas F. Maguire in NYC. Any information on orphanages in NYC area where children were placed. Thank you in advance for any information. J. F. Crossman-Battisti

I am searching for relatives of my grandmother Jane Dalton. She and four of her sisters came to New York in the mid 1860 period. They married men with the following surnames: Crane Cosgrove kivlin Vaughan The Daltons all came from the Kiltoghert area of County Leitrim. They were the children of William Dalton and Delia (Bridget Brannan (possibly Brennen). Any information would be really appreciated. James E. Vaughan Chicago

Sorry, Judy, I only have Hartigan in my tree. Good luck, Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] Morris/Maurice, John, Mary Harrigan Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 12:47:20 -0700 My GGgrandparents were born in Ireland, I'm guessing around Limrick. Patrick Leddin (varies spellings) married Nora Harrigan in Ireland came to the US 1861 on the Etna (??) with young children James Leddin married Frances Hayes about 1870 or so, I believe in Chicago. Gertrude Leddin, born 1888 in St. Louis, MO was my grandmother -she's one of 6 children. Do you have a Nora Harrigan in your line? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- -- you @ usa.com is available and 170 other free domains. Sign up at www.mail.com

Opps, I'm Judy. Let me know if there is a connection. I'm at the proverbial bring wall!

My GGgrandparents were born in Ireland, I'm guessing around Limrick. Patrick Leddin (varies spellings) married Nora Harrigan in Ireland came to the US 1861 on the Etna (??) with young children James Leddin married Frances Hayes about 1870 or so, I believe in Chicago. Gertrude Leddin, born 1888 in St. Louis, MO was my grandmother -she's one of 6 children. Do you have a Nora Harrigan in your line?

Question for the day: ( I haven't seen this one on Irish-NYC Digest before) Is there any other means to work with the NYC Brides and Grooms list, if one doesn't live in the vicinity, other than through the LDS Library? Genie ----- Original Message ----- From: <irish-new-york-city-request@rootsweb.com> To: <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 4:08 AM Subject: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 22 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Account closed (ARDFERT37@aol.com) > 2. Re: *Free* Access to GenealogyBank for Several Days (Jim Garrity) > 3. Re: Account closed (Jim Garrity) > 4. Grosse Ile - "I'ile des Irlandais" - COPPS, POWER, DOUGLAS, > ROBINSON, MILLS (Maureen) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 19:17:15 EST > From: ARDFERT37@aol.com > Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Account closed > To: IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <bde.ff805db.33010c0b@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I was using this site earlier today and now I am not able to access it. > Barbara > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 19:22:43 -0500 > From: Jim Garrity <jimgarrity@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] *Free* Access to GenealogyBank for Several > Days > To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <45CFB353.3040806@earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > http://blog.dearmyrtle.com/2007/02/genealogybank-login-not-working-from.html > > Patrica wrote: > >>I tried over and over again. It did not work for me >>patricia >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com >>[mailto:irish-new-york-city-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of >>ARDFERT37@aol.com >>Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 2:30 PM >>To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com >>Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] *Free* Access to GenealogyBank for Several Days >> >>Hi Tom. >>Is everyone using promotion@genealogybank.com and the password GenBank4U >>to >> >>login? >>I think this will work. >>Barbara >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>without >>the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> > > -- > -- > James Garrity > NYC Genealogy Research Service, Cemetery Research & Photography > http://www.NYCgen.com > http://www.JimGarrity.com > E-mail: JimGarrity@earthlink.net > Vice-President for Family History and Webmaster, New York Irish History > Roundtable, http://www.irishnyhistory.org > Member, Association of Professional Genealogists > Member, Godfrey Memorial Library, http://www.godfrey.org > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:29:32 -0500 > From: Jim Garrity <JimGarrity@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [IRISH-NYC] Account closed > To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <45CFED2C.CF83E832@earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > From: > "Tom Kemp" <thomas.j.kemp@gmail.com> > To: > nynewyor@rootsweb.com > CC: > "Jim Garrity" <JimGarrity@earthlink.net> > References: > 1 , 2 > > > > > Friends, > > The response to the GenealogyBank free access offer has been huge. > Despite our planning for higher demand from the free access, the > response to the offer was so > overwhelming that we had to disable that login/password. > > > > I will be back in touch with you as I meet with the staff tomorrow > > . > > My apologies for the interruption in the free access. Many thanks for > your notes of encouragement and willingness to try out the site. > > More to follow. > > > > Tom > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 00:06:02 -0600 > From: "Maureen" <mcshelly2@msn.com> > Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Grosse Ile - "I'ile des Irlandais" - COPPS, > POWER, DOUGLAS, ROBINSON, MILLS > To: <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com>, <costello@rootsweb.com>, > <DALY-L@rootsweb.com>, <higgins@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BAY120-DAV131C7A60F3C890B1D1A08FE910@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > For anyone planning to visit Quebec City... and lovers of the history of > the Irish. > > Subject: [IGW] Grosse Ile - "I'ile des Irlandais" - COPPS, POWER, > DOUGLAS,ROBINSON, MILLS > > > On St. Patrick's Day, March 17, 1996, Ms. S. COPPS, Minister of > Canadian Heritage, announced her plans for the national historical site at > Grosse Ile, a small island in the St. Lawrence river, 48 kilometers > downstream from Quebec City. > > Gross Ile is the burial site of thousands of Irish immigrants who died > of cholera in 1832, and of typhus, ship fever and starvation while fleeing > from the Great Hunger in 1847. > > "From now on," said the Minister,"it will be called Grosse Ile and the > Irish Memorial." > > The only remaining hospital building from 1847, is a long wooden shed > called > the Lazaretto. White crosses mark the graves of some of the thousands of > Irish famine victims buried on the island. A tall Celtric Cross was > erected > in 1909. > > Ms. COPPS stated that the department of Canadian Heritage would clear away > the brush that had overgown the mass graves to create a place of > tranquility > and reflection. Equally important, she said, was that it was to pay > homage > to the welcome, generosity and devotion of the local population who > comforted the afflicted. > > In 1832, Grosse Ile witnessed a full-scale calamity when thousands of > Irish > died of cholera. In 1847, worse was to happen as 110,000 Irish Famine > refugees sailed up the St. Lawrence. > > The mortality rate on the coffin ships -- merchant vessels used in the > timber trade, carrying Irish passengers as paying ballast -- was one in > four. > Many of the dead were buried at sea, but thousands died on the ships, > while they were anchored in quarantine in the St. Lawrence at Grosse Ile, > or in the vastly overcrowded hospital sheds and tents on the island. > > Despite heroic efforts by the medical authorities at Grosse Ile, > particularly > Dr. George DOUGLAS, the Medical Superintendent,the suffering was dreadful. > At least 5,000 and perhaps as many as 15,000 Famine victms are buried in > the mass graves on Grosse Isle. > > The story of Grosse Ile is not just one of suffering. Just as impressive > and memorable is the remarkable generosity of spirit of the Canadians. In > addition to Dr. DOUGLAS -- who contracted typhus from the Irish Famine > victims and was seriously ill for several weeks -- the story of 1847 > abounds > with Canadian heroism. Four other doctors, five Catholic priests, three > Anglican clergymen, and 42 lay workers died tending the sick at Grosse > Ile. > The Anglican and Catholic bishops and their clergy volunteered to assist > on > the island. In Montreal, all the nuns of the Grey Sisters who tended the > Irish came down with fever, and the Mayor, John MILLS, died of typhus. > The > same fate befell Michael POWER, the first Catholic Archbishop of Toronto. > > The most astonishing part of the story, however, continues to echo in > Quebec > where Grosse Ile is still known as "I'ile des Irlandais - the Irish > island." > > The Catholic clergy arranged for the adoption of more than 2,000 children > orphaned that summer. In many cases, the children were adopted into > French > Canadian familes who allowed them to keep their own Irish family names. > Which explains, in part, how so many Irish names can still be found in > completely French-speaking areas of Quebec. > > When Mary ROBINSON, President of Ireland, visited Canada in August, 1994, > the first place on her itinerary was Grosse Ile. In a moving speech, > under > canvas in the pouring rain, she said that while the failure of the potato > was > a natural disaster across all Europe, "in Ireland it took place in a > political, > economic and social framework that was oppressive and unjust." > > Ms.ROBINSON spoke for us all when she said of Grosse Ile: "This is a > hallowed place." > > -- Excerpt, "Irish America" magazine > > > ------------------------------- > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY list administrator, send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY mailing list, send an email > to IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 22 > ************************************************** >