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    1. [IRISH-NYC] Heartfelt Thanks
    2. fabiochris
    3. Hi Folks, Although many of us are going to continue with new mailing lists, perhaps there are those of us who aren't and so before the end of these rootsweb mailing lists I want to thank you all. I have received so much help and support over the years from so many of you and with your help have found out much about my Irish families who went first to New York City then outwards from there. The brother and sister of these folk (my Greatgrandparents William Nolan and Bridget Kelly ) chose Australia in the 1880's and met and married there before coming to NZ. My time has become limited for family research so I haven't participated for a while, but I continue to enjoy following everyone's searches and successes. Best Wishes and Happy Hunting :) Chris in NZ

    02/27/2020 08:03:39
    1. [IRISH-NYC] GENIE TV NOW: "Finding Your Roots" & NYC Genealogy
    2. MizScarlettNY
    3. "FINDING YOUR ROOTS" season 6 continues NOW.  It is the 10th episode of this 16 episode series.then there's a gap until Tuesday, October 6th. TOPIC: CROOKS TUESDAY, February 25th8pm ESTChannel: PBS Henry Louis Gates, Jr. explores the roots of actor Laura Linney and journalists Lisa Ling and Soledad O’Brien—telling them stories of tricksters, scoundrels and outright criminals, who nevertheless laid the groundwork for their success. The GREAT news is that now you can watch earlier episodes right on your computer, here!!!>>> https://www.pbs.org/weta/finding-your-roots/watch/tv-schedule/?utm_source=Henry+Louis+Gates%2C+Jr.+Newsletter&utm_campaign=dea6353dcf-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2019_09_27_03_59_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_fe3e440199-dea6353dcf-157571945?utm_source=Henry+Louis+Gates%2C+Jr.+Newsletter&utm_campaign=dea6353dcf-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2019_09_27_03_59_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_fe3e440199-dea6353dcf-157571945 -------------------- Barb

    02/25/2020 06:09:11
    1. [IRISH-NYC] GO TO> 24 hr Webinar Marathon
    2. MizScarlettNY
    3. What: 24-Hour Genealogy Webinar Marathon https://familytreewebinars.com/webinar_details.php?webinar_id=1436 When: March 12- 5pm EST - March 13-5pm Sponsor: Family Tree Webinars Webinar Registration: https://register.gotowebinar.com/register/3605675064883383564 Fine Print: Although registration is free, you *may* have to be a paying webinar memberto participate for $ 49.99 per year. Webinar Membership: https://legacy.familytreewebinars.com/memberships-c11.php Barb

    02/10/2020 10:10:34
    1. [IRISH-NYC] Fwd: GO TO> 24 hr Webinar Marathon
    2. MizScarlettNY
    3. What: 24-Hour Genealogy Webinar Marathon https://familytreewebinars.com/webinar_details.php?webinar_id=1436 When: March 12- 5pm EST - March 13-5pm Sponsor: Family Tree Webinars Webinar Registration: https://register.gotowebinar.com/register/3605675064883383564 Fine Print: Although registration is free, you *may* have to be a paying webinar memberto participate for $ 49.99 per year. Webinar Membership: https://legacy.familytreewebinars.com/memberships-c11.php Barb

    02/10/2020 10:10:21
    1. [IRISH-NYC] Tracking a German-American= DAUBER
    2. MizScarlettNY
    3. Here's an interesting story about determining an ancestor's place of birth. https://vitabrevis.americanancestors.org/2020/01/elegant-resolution/#more-13747  Barb

    02/08/2020 09:51:27
    1. [IRISH-NYC] STEVE MORSE: 2020 Speaking Schedule
    2. MizScarlettNY
    3. Here's Steve Morse's speaking schedule for 2020 for those lucky folks in CA and CO. September 3, 2020: Seaside, CA: Monterey County Genealogy Society April 27, 2020: Palo Alto, CA: San Francisco Bay Area Jewish Genealogical Society March 29, 2020: Denver, CO: Jewish Genealogical Society of Colorado March 22, 2020: Oakland, CA: San Francisco Bay Area Jewish Genealogical Society February 18, 2020: Davis, CA: Davis Genealogy Club February 16, 2020: Sacramento, CA: Jewish Genealogical Society of Sacramento February 9, 2020: San Francisco, CA: San Francisco Bay Area Jewish Genealogical Society January 14, 2020: El Dorado Hills, CA: El Dorado Hills Genealogical Society January 9, 2020: Carmichael, CA: Root Cellar/Sacramento Genealogical Society Barb

    02/08/2020 08:50:32
    1. [IRISH-NYC] Riverdance
    2. MizScarlettNY
    3. Riverdance is touring 45 cities from January through June 2020. This performance is described as: "The New 25th Anniversary Production is a powerful and stirring reinvention of the show, celebrated the world over for its Grammy Award-winning music and the thrilling energy and passion of its Irish and international dance.” The famous Irish dance show will return to New York City for a special run at Radio City Music Hall between March 10 - 15, just ahead of St. Patrick’s Day. It will be the show’s first time returning to the Big Apple in ten years. For more information, click>>> https://riverdance.bowerypresents.com/?mkt_campaign=WM2QZYFEBH2TEG3GW50RUE1N&dclid=COG6rdyTvecCFYJGNwodMwUGHw Barb

    02/06/2020 07:41:25
    1. [IRISH-NYC] moving mailing lists
    2. Pat Connors
    3. I have opened mailing lists in groups.io for the following Rootsweb lists that I admin: NYBrooklyn NYCRoots NYIrish IrishNYC All discussions should be emailed to me and not on the list, including if you wish to join one of the lists, or have questions, please email at:  nymets11@pacbell.net This is an announcement, there will be no more discussions about the new lists on the Rootsweb list. If you also have announcements about opening new list, one announcement is okay to post, questions should be taken off the lists. Thanks for your cooperation, Pat -- Pat Connors http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

    01/09/2020 05:18:53
    1. [IRISH-NYC] Forming new lists off Rootsweb
    2. Pat Connors
    3. Let us all remember, you are not 'moving' the group but starting a new group on Facebook.  This mailing list and all the other Rootsweb mailing lists will be alive till March 2nd.  We have another 2 months.  So, as the list owner, I want you to take all talk of moving the list to your own personal emails and not on this list. Those of you setting up other lists can email subbers */off/* the list or wait til March 1st to announce your new lists. -- Pat Connors http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

    01/09/2020 12:46:27
    1. [IRISH-NYC] Re: Mailing lists on RootsWeb will be disabled in March 2020
    2. Bud Jamison
    3. On 1/7/2020 11:21 PM, Aaron Hill wrote: > I am not happy about this. I received the following message this morning. Please protest this short-sighted move, if you see fit. Perhaps if they hear from enough us, Ancestry will reverse course. > > To comment on this betrayal of the genealogical community and the values behind RootsWeb, send your message to rwmailinglists@ancestry.com or contact Ancestry via 1-800-615-6560. For other methods, such as mail, visit https://www.ancestry.com/corporate/contact-us. > > Aaron J. Hill > aaronjhill.wordpress.com Unfortunately, things change, and The Net HAS changed a LOT since Rootsweb was created. There alternatives, and some actually can be better than the old mailing lists, but it's going to take time and effort on the part of participants to make things work for all of us. I'm good with whatever change happens, so I hope the admins WILL manage to keep us informed, as things move to a new system. Getting mad at Ancestry is non-productive. THEY are a for profit business, and the meltdown OF the Lists back a year or so ago probably ended up being the event that caused many others to go other ways, so the lists are not nearly as used or useful as they used to be. Usenet is the same in many ways, but still limping along.

    01/08/2020 12:47:54
    1. [IRISH-NYC] Mailing lists on RootsWeb will be disabled in March 2020
    2. Aaron Hill
    3. I am not happy about this. I received the following message this morning. Please protest this short-sighted move, if you see fit. Perhaps if they hear from enough us, Ancestry will reverse course. To comment on this betrayal of the genealogical community and the values behind RootsWeb, send your message to rwmailinglists@ancestry.com or contact Ancestry via 1-800-615-6560. For other methods, such as mail, visit https://www.ancestry.com/corporate/contact-us. Aaron J. Hill aaronjhill.wordpress.com From RootsWeb Administration <rwmailinglists@ancestry.com> Tue 1/7/2020 9:36 AM Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists functionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer be able to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails. Additionally, administration tools will no longer be available to list administrators and mailing lists will be put into an archival state. Administrators may save the emails in their list prior to March 2nd. After that, mailing list archives will remain available and searchable on RootsWeb. As an alternative to RootsWeb Mailing Lists, Ancestry message boards are a great option to network with others in the genealogy community. Message boards are available for free with an Ancestry registered account. Thank you for being part of the RootsWeb family and contributing to this community. Sincerely, The RootsWeb team https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/rootsweb-listowners-announcements.rootsweb.com/thread/35491416/

    01/08/2020 12:21:38
    1. [IRISH-NYC] IGP Archives - November update
    2. Christina Hunt
    3. Here are the latest offerings from Ireland Genealogy Projects: ANTRIM, Genealogy Archives - Headstones Balmoral Cemetery, Belfast - Parts 1 & 2 Dunluce Presbyterian Graveyard https://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/antrim/photos/tombstones/markers.htm CLARE, Genealogy Archives - Headstones Clonloghan Cemetery (HASTINGS & CONSIDINE). https://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/clare/photos/tombstones/markers.htm DUBLIN, Genealogy Archives - Headstones Mount Jerome, Dublin - Part 239 https://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/photos/tombstones/1mj/mt-jerome-ndx.htm DUBLIN, Genealogy Archives - Headstones Malahide Cemetery (partial) https://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/photos/tombstones/markers.htm MAYO, Genealogy Archives - Headstones Aughagower Graveyard, Part 1 Sisters of Mercy Convent Graveyard, Westport https://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/mayo/photos/tombstones/markers.htm MEATH, Genealogy Archives - Headstones St James New Cem. (R.C.) Athboy Pt 1 (Text File) https://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/meath/photos/tombstones/stjames.htm WEXFORD, Genealogy Archives - Headstones Crosstown Cem., Ferrybank (BERRY, KEARNEY) St. Carthage’s (R.C) Graveyard, Courtnacuddy (9 images) https://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/wexford/photos/tombstones/markers.htm

    12/01/2019 02:07:04
    1. [IRISH-NYC] Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: FARRINGTON +MAHER/MEAGHER etc.
    2. Joanne Novarro
    3. Hi Bonn The father of Patrick in the Emigrant Savings Bank record is listed as Pat, mother Julia Costelloe. The entire entry says he was living at 524Pearl St when he opened the account and was "a native of The Neal, 3 miles outside of Ballinrobe, County Mayo, Ireland. Arrived in NY 4th of April/1848 from the ship Uterp, from Liverpool. Parents dead, Fa Pat, Mo Julia Costelloe. 2 Bros and 1 sis. Is a widow, wife was Eleanor Harrington. 5 children." I also found another account for him in 1868, so if your Patrick was in Indiana by then, it's pretty obvious they are different people. My own Farringtons came from Shrule, Mayo and didn't arrive in NYC until 1850. That was the Thomas and Bridget I mentioned, my great great grandparents. Their first son was named Patrick, their first daughter was written "Judy" in the baptismal records, but her name could have actually been Julia (have you ever tried to decipher some of these Irish church records?!). The baptismal sponsors puzzle me in many cases as they sometimes do not share the last name of either the father or the mother. I do wonder at times if they just grabbed someone who was available... You might be interested to know that my Farringtons were originally Farrahers but had their name changed by some official either at embarkation in Liverpool or debarkation in NY. My now deceased aunt mentioned that her father (my grandfather) had told her that and a second cousin I have since connected with on Ancestry, who has done extensive research on the family, confirmed it. I too am going to go back and look at some Irish records again. I'll let you know if I learn anything new. Happy hunting! Joanne -----Original Message----- From: Bonnie Brown [mailto:brown_bonnie@att.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 10:35 AM To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRISH-NYC] [EXTERNAL] RE: FARRINGTON +MAHER/MEAGHER etc. Responding to Joanne---Thanks! The Patrick Farrington living near your Thomas Farrington is certainly a line worth examining more. Is the Father listed in the Emigrant Savings Bank listing named Dert Farrington, by any chance? We've seen a baptism for a Patt Farrington listing Dert as his father (mother I think is Mary, though it's pretty illegible). (sorry, I can't locate right now where in IRE that baptism was). I don't have access to Emigrant Savings Bank without a trip to the library. I would feel pretty confident that the marriage that Patricia found of Patrick/Mary is probably "the City Hall Place" Patrick. But, hmmm, the witnesses aren't your Thomas. Just a thought. Now, whether it's "MY" Patrick Farrington is still unclear in my mind. I've never found my Patrick in a census before 1860 Indiana, so I have no idea if he was married before Mary. My concern is that none of my Patrick/Mary's kids are named Thomas nor Bridget---even though that's not necessarily in the traditional naming pattern. The children I know, all born in Indiana, are Mary Ann, John Peter, Patrick Joseph, Julia, Eliza, Margaret and Agnes. That gives me a "to do" item to chase down the baptisms, and see who the sponsors are, even though they were hundreds of miles apart by then. Witnesses for Patrick's naturalization (in Indiana, not until 1883, so perhaps irrelevant) were Joseph Turnock and John T. Morgan. Do those names do anything for you? Thanks. We'll keep in touch. Every little lead helps! _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    11/26/2019 02:33:36
    1. [IRISH-NYC] [EXTERNAL] RE: FARRINGTON +MAHER/MEAGHER etc.
    2. Bonnie Brown
    3. Responding to Joanne---Thanks! The Patrick Farrington living near your Thomas Farrington is certainly a line worth examining more. Is the Father listed in the Emigrant Savings Bank listing named Dert Farrington, by any chance? We've seen a baptism for a Patt Farrington listing Dert as his father (mother I think is Mary, though it's pretty illegible). (sorry, I can't locate right now where in IRE that baptism was). I don't have access to Emigrant Savings Bank without a trip to the library. I would feel pretty confident that the marriage that Patricia found of Patrick/Mary is probably "the City Hall Place" Patrick. But, hmmm, the witnesses aren't your Thomas. Just a thought. Now, whether it's "MY" Patrick Farrington is still unclear in my mind. I've never found my Patrick in a census before 1860 Indiana, so I have no idea if he was married before Mary. My concern is that none of my Patrick/Mary's kids are named Thomas nor Bridget---even though that's not necessarily in the traditional naming pattern. The children I know, all born in Indiana, are Mary Ann, John Peter, Patrick Joseph, Julia, Eliza, Margaret and Agnes. That gives me a "to do" item to chase down the baptisms, and see who the sponsors are, even though they were hundreds of miles apart by then. Witnesses for Patrick's naturalization (in Indiana, not until 1883, so perhaps irrelevant) were Joseph Turnock and John T. Morgan. Do those names do anything for you? Thanks. We'll keep in touch. Every little lead helps!

    11/26/2019 09:35:18
    1. [IRISH-NYC] [EXTERNAL] New records online and free to access
    2. Pat Connors
    3. Thanks to Genealogy In time online Magazine for this list of genealogy records online and free to access: *Ireland* – FamilySearch has added another 900,000 records to their Ireland 1901 census record collection. This is a very important collection for anyone with Irish ancestors since it is only one of two full censuses for Ireland that has survived. A typical record in this collection lists the name, age, occupation, relationship to the head of the household, marital status, education/literacy, religion and birth country for all the members of the household. This collection can be searched by first name and last name. Access is free. [Ireland 1901 Census Records] https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1626180 *Ireland* – The Irish Genealogical Research Society has added 14,000 more names to their early Irish birth, marriage and death indexes. This brings the total name count for the three indexes to 274,000. The marriage index is free to search. You can read more about this latest update at Irish Ancestors. https://www.irishancestors.ie/weve-added-14000-more-names-to-our-bmd-database/ *Ireland* – FamilySearch has increased their collection of Irish civil registration records by an additional one million records. These are primarily birth (1864 to 1913), marriage (1845 to 1870) and death (1864 to 1870) records issued by the Irish government. A typical birth record in this collection lists the name of the child, date and place of birth, full name and address of the father, profession of the father and full name (including maiden name) and address of the mother. A typical marriage record in this collection includes the full names of the bride and groom, their ages, date and place of marriage, occupations of the both the bride and groom, their signatures and witnesses to the marriage (who were often close relatives). A typical death record in this collection includes the full name of the deceased, date and place of death, sex, age, marital status, occupation and certified cause of death (if known). These records can be searched by first name and last name. Sadly, most of the records in this collection do not show images of the original record. Access is free. [Historic Ireland Civil Registration records] https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/2659409?collectionNameFilter=true -- Pat Connors http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

    11/25/2019 04:50:12
    1. [IRISH-NYC] [EXTERNAL] Re: spam???
    2. Pat Connors
    3. Hi Denise, > Pat......I don't know if this matters, but I just saw your message in > my spam folder???Denise Irwin Thanks for letting me know.  I wonder if it is the list or me that your software sees as spam?? -- Pat Connors http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

    11/25/2019 04:14:28
    1. [IRISH-NYC] [EXTERNAL] RE: Re: Patrick Farrington-Mary Magher Where are you??
    2. Joanne Novarro
    3. I've been watching this conversation but have been hesitant to chime in because I wasn't sure there was any connection to my Farrington family. There was a Patrick Farrington living at 34 City Hall Place where my Farringtons lived in the 1850s and I've assumed he was my ggf Thomas Farrington's brother as he came , according to Emigrant Savings Bank records, from the same area in Mayo. This record was a find as it also listed his parents name and also that his wife, Eleanor Harrington, was deceased. What interests me about the record below is that first, my ggrandfather's children were all baptized in St Andrew's, close to City Hall Place, and second, that my gggrandmother Bridget Farrington's maiden name was Mahon or Mangan or Meagher. I'm imagining that these folks were somehow related but don't know how. Here's a theory. Patrick was a widower who through his sister in law Bridget, met Mary Mahon, Mangan, Meagher and they married. I've looked for Patrick in later NYC records without any success. Perhaps he is YOUR Patrick and moved to the Midwest after that marriage. Thoughts? Joanne jcnovarro@gmail.com ----Original Message----- From: Patricia Petrizzo [mailto:pat4gen@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 3:27 PM To: irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Re: Patrick Farrington-Mary Magher Where are you?? Bonnie, Found this at Find My Past. Mahon close to MANGHAN/MAGHER/MEAGHER?? First name(s)Patrick Last nameFarrington RoleGroom Birth year- Marriage year1855 Marriage date01 Jan 1855 ParishSt Andrew CountyManhattan StateNew York CountryUnited States LocationManhattan ArchdioceseNew York Spouse's first name(s)Mary Spouse's last nameMahon Language- Record setNew York Roman Catholic Parish Marriages CategoryBirth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers) SubcategoryParish Marriages Collections fromAmericas, United States Witnesses Peter Goodwin and Mary Meloy; Priest Michael Curran. There is no other identifying information for the couple. There were two other Patrick Farrington marriages, one to Ann Hart (1861) and one to Catherine Douglas (1850). Image for the 1855 marriage is available if you want, just email me. 14th Ward (Manhattan), courtesy of Russell K. Brown (http://bklyn-genealogy-info.stevemorse.org/Ward/1855.St.ward.html) 1 ED: Houston St - Mulberry St - Spring St - Broa[d]way 2 ED: Bowery - Houston St - Mulberry St - Spring St 3 ED: Bowery - Spring St - Mulberry St - Gran[d] St 4 ED: Broaway - Spring St - Mulberry St - Gran St 5 ED: Bowery - Canal St (Walker St) - Mulberry St - Gran St 6 ED: Broaway - Canal St - Centre St - Walker St - Canal St (Walker St) - Mulberry St - Gran St Pat pat4gen@hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm looking for a marriage date for my gr-gr-grandfather Patrick FARRINGTON (b. ~1820 Ireland) and Mary MANGHAN/MAGHER/MEAGHER(b. May 1830 Ireland). I've got very little to go on, other than the wording from Patrick's 1889 obituary in the South Bend, Indiana newspaper. ".He came to America from Ireland about fifty years ago, resided in New York city for ten years, married and then came to South Bend, which at that time was a small village." Mary's obituary, also from South Bend, says "She came to South Bend in 1855, soon after her marriage to Mr. Farrington" _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    11/25/2019 12:17:45
    1. [IRISH-NYC] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Help, please
    2. Denise
    3. Pat......I don't know if this matters, but I just saw your message in my spam folder???Denise Irwin -----Original Message----- From: Pat Connors <nymets11@pacbell.net> To: francebrun <francebrun@hotmail.com>; Irish-New-York-City <Irish-New-York-City@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Nov 20, 2019 2:57 pm Subject: [IRISH-NYC] [EXTERNAL] Re: Help, please Hi Frances, > I have sent two or three messages to this list in the past two weeks, > and never seen any of them turn up in my email. Can someone help me > with this? I have checked the list's archives here: https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/irish-new-york-city.rootsweb.com/2019/11/?page=1 As you will see, there is not a message posted from you.  You will also see that the list is working fairly well.  I checked your subscription and it seems to be okay.  If you post to the list again, write me at this email address and I will try to see what happens. -- Pat Connors http://www.connorsgenealogy.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    11/22/2019 06:01:28
    1. [IRISH-NYC] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: How I Found my Family (as much as I have, thus far)
    2. mary pavlovich
    3. Don't think any of my McCanns had a Walsh connection. On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 8:33 PM Gloria Bartosik via IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY < irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> wrote: > McCanns were in Manhattan but I have little info on them.My ancestor was > Mary Walsh who married a Mcann . know little > In a message dated 11/20/2019 11:17:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, > mary.pavlovich@gmail.com writes: > > I have been fortunate in learning so much about my NY family and although > Imust be just repeating the obvious, I want to set out which sources > havebeen most helpful.Starting off, rather obviously, *Ancestry *was key. > I am fortunate to livenear libraries with Ancestry Library edition. I never > subscribed , nor useda trial of Ancestry.*Family Search* was also key.*Find > My Past* is terrific, and I have subscribed to that a month at atime, > including for NYC Roman Catholic records. Beyond NYC, they wereinstrumental > in research across the pond. > > My family names in NYC were the *McCanns, the Flannigans*.*The McCanns* > John, b. County Tyrone 1829 and Mary Hewett b. Glasgow 1825were married and > began their family in Glasgow. They were still there inthe 1861 census, but > by July of 1863 had emigrated to Brooklyn. I foundrecord of their arrival > in the *search function for Castle Garden*.Instead of wading through > common names like John or Mary I looked fordaughter Esther. *City > directories* helped me place laborer John in thevicinity of the Brooklyn > Navy Yard. (Not sure how I decided it was my John,but it was more than a > guess.) I assumed, but don't know that John workedin the navy yard.I > nearly overlooked a major record. In the *1865 NYS Census*, the McCannsare > still there in Brooklyn, but a *check mark in the column asking > aboutmilitary service* led me to interesting knowledge. It seems that John > wasserving in the US Navy. That sent me over to the naval enlistment > recordsand a physical description. I learned that he served on the USS > Shamrock,built in the Brooklyn Navy Yard (I wonder if John helped build > it). Funfact: the Shamrock was commissioned on St. Patrick's day in 1864, > andlaunched with a bottle of Irish whisky This was discovered in a > newspapersearch.* Brooklyn Eagle,* I think, but maybe the *New York > Herald*.In the *1870Census *the family was living in Newark, NJ. John was > working as a boatman.They still had a a New York incident however. In > August, 1869 an articlein the* New York Herald*, tells of John McCann, > boatman of Newark, NewJersey being badly beaten by a vagrant on New > Chambers Street afterrefusing to give a vagrant a handout. An all too > familiar story in NYC.Thislet me know that they had moved to Newark, and > that he still had reason,maybe work related, maybe personal, to be in NYC > sometimes.Two daughters were born in Brooklyn. I have yet to find (or even > look hard)for the baptismal records. I have heard that Brooklyn Roman > Catholicrecords will be digitized and online soon. I hope that is correct. > I don'trecall how I know that daughter Mary was born on March 4, 1868. Ann > was myGreat-Grandmother. She died in NJ in 1903. > *The Flannigans* (also found variants on Flannigan) arrived in NYC in > thelate 1840s. my 2nd g-grandmother, Susan, was born 1839 (County Down) > andwas in Manhattan by 1849, along with father Thomas, mother Anne & > varioussiblings. Again Ancestry, Family Search and Find My Past were > keyresources. I was fortunate to learn of the existence in the NYPL of > therecords of *St. Peter's RC Church on Barclay St*. This is long before > FindMy Past published the transcripts for St. Peter's. From those > filmstrips Ilearned of Susan's marriage to Thomas Young, the baptisms of > the fourchildren they had while in Manhattan, and the names of sponsors of > theevents. No family, as far as I can tell, but neighbors on Desbrosses > St(where Susan grew up, and Leonard St. where she and Thomas Young > livedafter their marriage.It was great fun to lunch at the Square Diner, > 33 Leonaard St, corner ofVarick, the same street address where Susan, > Thomas and children lived inthe 1860s. > I long for the day when St. Peter's images are on Find My Past as well > asthe transcripts, because the little notes about godparents, witnesses, > etc.,can be revealing. Not sure there is anything left there for me to > find, butyou never know. > In the records of the *Emigrant Savings Bank* (Ancestry) also, I think > inthe NYPL) Susan is signatory on an account for Thomas Young, who > wasilliterate. He worked in a sugar processing plant across the street > fromhis home on Leonard St. From that record I learned that the Flannigans > werefrom County Down. That was a big find for me, although I haven't yet > found*where* in County Down.City directories, census records, the standard > stuff was also useful. > Susan's family used the services of Bellevue Hospital for illness > (adultson) and a bad accident.(father). > Susan and Thomas had relocated to Jersey City (possibly because a newsugar > refinery had opened in JC around that time, maybe because theythought it > would be a better atmosphere than lower Manhattan) by the timeof the 1870 > census, and died there, she in 1874, he in 75. TB, I think.The children > were placed in an orphanage St. Mary's in Vailsburg, NJ, now apart of > Newark.The orphanage records note that Thomas was in a hospital atsome > point before his death. Can't figure out which. That is how they cameto > Newark, to meet the McCann-Young family. Thus ends the NYC part of > thefamily history, except for me who lives in Manhattan now. > Anyway, that's my NYC family. My mother always said she had heard of a > NewYork connection. I'm happy to have established it. She also said > MacDougall St somehow figured in. I'm still working on that. > I know most of this is standard stuff, but I thought it might be > worthwhileto put it down somewhere. > Good luck with your research. I'm still plugging away at some > missingdetails, here and in the Old World. > Mary > _______________________________________________Email preferences: > http://bit.ly/rootswebprefUnsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.comPrivacy > Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blogRootsWeb is > funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

    11/21/2019 05:45:17
    1. [IRISH-NYC] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: How I Found my Family (as much as I have, thus far)
    2. Denise
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My main tree is Denise Rae Janer Family Tree....I have a few Patrick Garvin trees but they are just for researching other Patrick Garvin names.....Yes there are witness names on the marriage but neither pans out...also I have witnesses for the baptism certificates of their children....also no luckI know where they are buried (Mt St Mary's cemetery in Flushing)  Can not find the headstone....the office thinks its probably in the oldest part of the cemetery and most of those headstones have fallen over and I didn't have the time to go around and pulll them up...I saw that pat Garvin arrival along with a couple others.....none I can prove however....Thanks for the input!Denise -----Original Message----- From: mary pavlovich <mary.pavlovich@gmail.com> To: This list is dedicated to the emigration and settlement of people from Ireland to New York City, (Manhattan, Brooklyn, Bronx, Queens, Staten Island) <irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Nov 20, 2019 4:02 pm Subject: [IRISH-NYC] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: How I Found my Family (as much as I have, thus far) Hello Denise, I am assuming that the Ancestry tree for Patrick Garvin and Eliza Hodgins is your tree, is that right? I currently have no access at home to records except for Family Search, so I am rather limited. Did the record of the marriage at St. Paul's include names of witnesses? Did baptismal info for their children include names of sponsors? Did Patrick serve in the military? Did you find a grave site? If so, there a headstone? (I never had any luck with info on headstones over here, many never had a headstone. I did, however,  find a mother lode in Aberdeen, which listed names and dates  and sometimes cause of death for almost a dozen people.) Do you have arrival info for Patrick? There is a July 31, 1863 arrival in NY with a 21 year old Pat Garvin and coincidentally a 20 Sarah Mc Kenna aboard. A coincidence, or a McKenna-Garvin connection? Did you just do a Google search of the names you are working on? I did that for my 3rd great grandmother's and found that her father had moved to Canada, left his children from his first marriage behind in Ireland and started a second family in Canada. Someone in that second family had posted an entire history of the family. The only missing person from the first family was my 3rd great grandmother! If anything I think might be useful comes to mind I will send it along. Good luck Mary On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 1:57 PM Denise via IRISH-NEW-YORK-CITY < irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com> wrote: > You have been muck luckier than I have with your Irish roots! Thanks for > telling me how you found everything.....my Irish brick wall is my > great-great grandparents Patrick Garvin (or Gavin) and Eliza Hodgins......I > found their marriage record on FindMyPast...they were married in 1866 in St > Paul's church in Manhattan...of course no parents were listed for > them.....I do know Eliza's parents but absolutely nothing about Patrick > before 1866.....they settled in College Point and raised their family there > and he died in 1896.....My other Irish problem is another great-great > grandmother Kate McKenna who appears to have just dropped out of the sky > and landed in College Point married to Gustov Drebing.....there are a LOT > of Kate McKennas who came thru Castle Garden, all around the same ages so > there is no way of knowing which is her......they had to have married > around 1871 -1873 ....their first child was born in 1873.......but I can > not find a marriage for them or I can not locate either one in the 1870 > census (and I went page by page for 390 pages for the college > point/Flushing area!So I'm hoping as more records are added, something may > pop up one of these days! > Denise Irwin > > -----Original Message----- > From: mary pavlovich <mary.pavlovich@gmail.com> > To: This list is dedicated to the emigration and settlement of people from > Ireland to New York City, (Manhattan, Brooklyn, Bronx, Queens, Staten > Island) <Irish-New-York-City@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wed, Nov 20, 2019 11:17 am > Subject: [IRISH-NYC] How I Found my Family (as much as I have, thus far) > > I have been fortunate in learning so much about my NY family and although I > must be just repeating the obvious, I want to set out which sources have > been most helpful. > Starting off, rather obviously,  *Ancestry *was key. I am fortunate to live > near libraries with Ancestry Library edition. I never subscribed , nor used > a trial of Ancestry. > *Family Search* was also key. > *Find My Past* is terrific, and I have subscribed to that a month at a > time, including for NYC Roman Catholic records. Beyond NYC, they were > instrumental in research across the pond. > > > My family names in NYC were the *McCanns, the Flannigans*. > *The McCanns* John, b. County Tyrone 1829 and Mary Hewett b. Glasgow 1825 > were married and began their family in Glasgow. They were still there in > the 1861 census, but by July of 1863 had emigrated to Brooklyn. I found > record of their arrival in the *search function  for Castle Garden*. > Instead of wading through common names like John or Mary I looked for > daughter Esther. *City directories* helped me place laborer John in the > vicinity of the Brooklyn Navy Yard. (Not sure how I decided it was my John, > but it was more than a guess.)  I assumed, but don't know that John worked > in the navy yard. > I nearly overlooked a major record. In the *1865 NYS Census*, the McCanns > are still there in Brooklyn, but a *check mark in the column asking about > military service* led me to interesting knowledge. It seems that John was > serving in the US Navy. That sent me over to the naval enlistment records > and a physical description. I learned that he served on the USS Shamrock, > built in the Brooklyn Navy Yard (I wonder if John helped build it). Fun > fact: the Shamrock was commissioned on St. Patrick's day in 1864, and > launched with a bottle of Irish whisky This was discovered in a newspaper > search.* Brooklyn Eagle,* I think, but maybe the *New York Herald*. > In the *1870 > Census *the family was living in Newark, NJ. John was working as a boatman. > They still had a a New York incident however. In August, 1869 an  article > in the* New York Herald*, tells of John McCann, boatman of Newark, New > Jersey being badly beaten  by a vagrant on New Chambers Street  after > refusing to give a vagrant a handout. An all too familiar story in NYC.This > let me know that they had moved to Newark, and that he still had reason, > maybe work related, maybe personal, to be in NYC sometimes. > Two daughters were born in Brooklyn. I have yet to find (or even look hard) > for the baptismal records. I have heard that Brooklyn Roman Catholic > records will be digitized and online soon. I hope that is correct. I don't > recall how I know that daughter Mary was born on March 4, 1868. Ann was my > Great-Grandmother. She died in NJ in 1903. > > *The Flannigans* (also found variants on Flannigan) arrived in NYC in the > late 1840s. my 2nd g-grandmother, Susan, was born 1839 (County Down) and > was in Manhattan by 1849, along with father Thomas, mother Anne & various > siblings. Again Ancestry, Family Search and Find My Past were key > resources.  I was fortunate to learn of the existence in the NYPL of the > records of *St. Peter's RC Church on Barclay St*.  This is long before Find > My Past published the transcripts for St. Peter's. From those filmstrips I > learned of Susan's marriage to Thomas Young, the baptisms of the four > children they had while in Manhattan, and the names of sponsors of the > events. No family, as far as I can tell, but neighbors on Desbrosses St > (where Susan grew up, and Leonard St. where she and Thomas Young lived > after their marriage. > It was great fun to lunch  at the Square Diner, 33 Leonaard St, corner of > Varick, the same street address where Susan, Thomas and children lived in > the 1860s. > > I long for the day when St. Peter's images are on Find My Past as well as > the transcripts, because the little notes about godparents, witnesses, > etc., > can be revealing. Not sure there is anything left there for me to find, but > you never know. > > In the records of the *Emigrant Savings Bank* (Ancestry) also, I think in > the NYPL) Susan is signatory on an account for Thomas Young, who was > illiterate. He worked in a sugar processing plant across the street from > his home on Leonard St. From that record I learned that the Flannigans were > from County Down. That was a big find for me, although I haven't yet found > *where* in County Down. > City directories, census records, the standard stuff was also useful. > > Susan's family used the services of Bellevue Hospital for illness (adult > son) and a bad accident.(father). > > Susan and Thomas had relocated to Jersey City (possibly because a new > sugar refinery had opened in JC around that time, maybe because they > thought it would be a better atmosphere than lower Manhattan) by the time > of the 1870 census, and died there, she in 1874, he in 75. TB, I think. > The children were placed in an orphanage St. Mary's in Vailsburg, NJ, now a > part of Newark.The orphanage records note that Thomas was in a hospital at > some point before his death. Can't figure out which.  That is how they came > to Newark, to meet the McCann-Young family. Thus ends the NYC part of the > family history, except for me who lives in Manhattan now. > > Anyway, that's my NYC family. My mother always said she had heard of a New > York connection. I'm happy to have established it. She also said Mac > Dougall St somehow figured in. I'm still working on that. > > I know most of this is standard stuff, but I thought it might be worthwhile > to put it down somewhere. > > Good luck with your research. I'm still plugging away at some missing > details, here and in the Old World. > > Mary > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/irish-new-york-city@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    11/20/2019 06:56:46