I have just found on the 1861 census for Perth Scotland a JOYCE connection to my other family names above. I know my MULHEARN and GIBBONS were from County Mayo. So I got the marriage certificate from Scotlandspeople as well, and it gives married 18 Dec 1859 at St Johns RC Church, Perth, Scotland, Edward JOYCE age 20, mason's labourer, father William JOYCE, labourer, deceased, mother Ann JOYCE nee JOYCE, to Catherine GIBBONS age 18, father Thomas GIBBONS, labourer, mother Cather FAGHY, (sic) witnesses John FAHY and Thomas Gibbons. (John FAHY was Catherine's GIBBONS uncle). No BMD or census of Edward JOYCE and his family in Scotland or England after 1863 birth of second child. Possible either went back to Ireland or emigrated somewhere else?? John FAHY's sister Bridget married Peter MULHEARN, both probably born County Mayo). Peter MULHEARN their son married Bridget MORAN 1861 Perth, Scotland Both born Co. mayo according to later census. These are my direct paternal lines. All these families above are living together at the same address in 1 Cutlog Vennel, Perth in 1861 plus a Patrick MORAN, age 36 wife Bridget, age 40, children, Mary John and Ann, all born Ireland. Slowly, very slowly piecing all these families together. Keeping on, and on, and on.......... Kathleen.