Hi, Ms.Gillie - What did you do in Waterford and Wexford? Our plan is to stay in 3-4 places in different parts of Ireland after our guided bus tour, to see sites the tour missed. I am hoping to see the Dunbrody famine ship replica, which I believe is in New Ross, Wexford? Gill, you are a sweetie to offer to put a roof over our heads and/or meet with us in Liverpool for a "cuppa," per another of your e-mails. I would like to meet you, I know. Have to run it by my sis, and cousin again. Our travel plans are not solidified yet, as my sister has sold her home, bought another which is being refurbished, and in the interim is living with a friend who doesn't have a computer. We will have to settle here soon on which guided bus tour we want to take, and we can then better plan where to spend the remainder of our time exploring different regions of Ireland the final week by rental car, local buses, rail - hopefully, Liverpool, too. Personally, we would love to visit Wales, Scotland, London, etc., but "our eyes are bigger than our pocketbooks." I think that unless we could find my elderly English FORD cousin in Wales, Leslie FORD, and he agreed to meet us, we probably would not be heading for Wales. You asked about his address. I believes Les FORD still lives "north of Tenbury, and six miles from Cardigan Bay," per his description. Any idea of where that would be? I have corresponded with him via e-mail in the past, but have lost touch with him in the couple years. If I had the address of he and his second wife "Tricia" (Patricia?), I would write to them and see if they might want to meet us next summer. In the sad event he is deceased, I would like to have his newspaper death notice for my family history. Leslie worked at one time for the BBC, as a transmitter, lived in Tunbridge Wells, Kent, England, said that he "was now living in a 400-year-old stone farmhouse in Wales" with Tricia. I believe that is in/near Pembrokeshire? I haven't heard from Les via e-mail in the last couple of years - but we would be thrilled to meet him and his wife, Tricia -- and you, too. Gill - Do you have access to some Welsh old/new city directories, phone directories, etc.? Think he has lived there for many years. (I do have an photo of Leslie FORD as a young man on the occasion of his first marriage to Helen SMITH in Tunbridge Wells in the 1950s that was sent to me by a historian, photographer and author friend of his, the late Michael WHEELER, author "Langton Green 1939-1945"). (Oddly, when I sought to get Mr. FORD's address from Mr. WHEELER, recently, I found that Mr. WHEELER's funeral had taken place that very day!). Les has a grown son "Jerry," who went to Skinner's Boys School in Tunbridge Wells, and two sisters, Kathleen (FORD) CRUNDWELL (Mrs. Freddie) in Groomsbridge, Kent, and Doris FORD in Langton Green. These names would likely appear in any obituary. Hopefully, he is still "alive and kicking." It would mean so much to meet him or be back in touch with him. f you found anything on him, or his phone number, maybe you could even call him, see if he wants to meet us (all?) at some location??? Likely July 2006. We would be staying in a B&B, so as not to put anyone out. We likely won't be getting over London-way (T/W), but maybe his sisters would like to see us, too. At the least, maybe they would like to write to me and exchange copies of old photographs. Wouldn't that be grand! I could give you my home address, privately. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gill Smith" <gilliandavies@lineone.net> To: <IRISH-IN-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [UK-Irish] Dublin to Liverpool. Query > Hello Jean > > I've been a bit out of touch over the last few weeks but have managed to get > back to the list now. <snip> >

Hi Jean Yes send over your address and I can get stuff off to you -if you wish I can get a Liverpool Street Guide and places to see etc . Went to the Dunbrody Famine ship which was very interesting, I was no end impressed by the work done but a little disappointed with the presentation. We had some characters talking to us about their experiences on board which was good, I asked them some questions about their life in the New World and got no answers, as they were still on the voyage and hadn't got there yet!!They made me look daft!! Now - the Ship is too shipshape and doesn't convey the horror of overcrowding and the conditions as does the Maritime Museum in Liverpool. However it is a must to visit. The Captain for much of the Famine period was a Welshman and much regarded for his humane treatment of folk. The ship under him was in demand because of the low mortality rates and his kindness. I visited all sorts of places including Wexford goal - well worth a visit and very gruesome. The guide/goaler nearly scared myself and another lady to death, we thought he was really crazy - which of course he was supposed to be! Strange enough, in Ruthin here there is a cafe where I go for sandwiches at lunch time when at work. The handsome Irish lad who works there is from Wexford and happens to be a pal of the mad goaler, who apparently is an actor and 'mad'! Also went to Waterford Crystal which was a great tour. My 83 year old Mum is unsteady on her feet - a wheel chair was produced and she was treated like a VIP on the whole tour. The kindness was as big a treat as the tour. We stayed in Gory which I like alot, it's a very interesting town. We went (again) to Avoca weavering mill and did the Ballykissangel tour (again!) I have some pics of the goal and the interior of the ship if anyone wants them sending off list Anyway got to go to work today - I'm working as Community Archivist at Ruthin Goal until January - very nice too and alot nicer than Wexford Goal! Speak soon Gill PS I really like being called Gillie - it made me feel good this morning I promised to look up Ford for you and I will, sorry about the delay I've had a few problems in the home front ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com> To: <IRISH-IN-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 11:11 PM Subject: Re: [UK-Irish] Dublin to Liverpool. Query > Hi, Ms.Gillie - What did you do in Waterford and Wexford? Our plan is to > stay in 3-4 places in different parts of Ireland after our guided bus > tour, > to see sites the tour missed. I am hoping to see the Dunbrody famine ship > replica, which I believe is in New Ross, Wexford? Gill, you are a sweetie > to offer to put a roof over our heads and/or meet with us in Liverpool for > a > "cuppa," per another of your e-mails. I would like to meet you, I know. > Have to run it by my sis, and cousin again. Our travel plans are not > solidified yet, as my sister has sold her home, bought another which is > being refurbished, and in the interim is living with a friend who doesn't > have a computer. We will have to settle here soon on which guided bus > tour > we want to take, and we can then better plan where to spend the remainder > of > our time exploring different regions of Ireland the final week by rental > car, local buses, rail - hopefully, Liverpool, too. Personally, we would > love to visit Wales, Scotland, London, etc., but "our eyes are bigger than > our pocketbooks." I think that unless we could find my elderly English > FORD > cousin in Wales, Leslie FORD, and he agreed to meet us, we probably would > not be heading for Wales. > > You asked about his address. I believes Les FORD still lives "north of > Tenbury, and six miles from Cardigan Bay," per his description. Any idea > of > where that would be? I have corresponded with him via e-mail in the past, > but have lost touch with him in the couple years. > > If I had the address of he and his second wife "Tricia" (Patricia?), I > would write to them and see if they might want to meet us next summer. > > In the sad event he is deceased, I would like to have his newspaper death > notice for my family history. Leslie worked at one time for the BBC, as a > transmitter, lived in Tunbridge Wells, Kent, England, said that he "was > now > living in a 400-year-old stone farmhouse in Wales" with Tricia. I believe > that is in/near Pembrokeshire? I haven't heard from Les via e-mail in the > last couple of years - but we would be thrilled to meet him and his wife, > Tricia -- and you, too. > > Gill - Do you have access to some Welsh old/new city directories, phone > directories, etc.? Think he has lived there for many years. (I do have > an > photo of Leslie FORD as a young man on the occasion of his first marriage > to > Helen SMITH in Tunbridge Wells in the 1950s that was sent to me by a > historian, photographer and author friend of his, the late Michael > WHEELER, > author "Langton Green 1939-1945"). (Oddly, when I sought to get Mr. > FORD's > address from Mr. WHEELER, recently, I found that Mr. WHEELER's funeral had > taken place that very day!). > > Les has a grown son "Jerry," who went to Skinner's Boys School in > Tunbridge > Wells, and two sisters, Kathleen (FORD) CRUNDWELL (Mrs. Freddie) in > Groomsbridge, Kent, and Doris FORD in Langton Green. These names would > likely appear in any obituary. Hopefully, he is still "alive and > kicking." > It would mean so much to meet him or be back in touch with him. f you > found > anything on him, or his phone number, maybe you could even call him, see > if > he wants to meet us (all?) at some location??? Likely July 2006. We would > be staying in a B&B, so as not to put anyone out. We likely won't be > getting over London-way (T/W), but maybe his sisters would like to see us, > too. At the least, maybe they would like to write to me and exchange > copies > of old photographs. Wouldn't that be grand! I could give you my home > address, privately. Jean > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gill Smith" <gilliandavies@lineone.net> > To: <IRISH-IN-UK-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 11:10 PM > Subject: Re: [UK-Irish] Dublin to Liverpool. Query > > >> Hello Jean >> >> I've been a bit out of touch over the last few weeks but have managed to > get >> back to the list now. <snip> >> > > > > ==== IRISH-IN-UK Mailing List ==== > The Irish-In-UK Mailing List Website: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishUK/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. 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