It is not "A Census" they are on, but a Land Valuation assessment. It is also not a UK Census but IRISH! To get a better understanding of what Griffiths' is, I would say do a Google search for it and get a variety of descriptions for it but ultimately it is just that, A Land and Property Valuation. Prior to this there was a thing called The Tithe Applotments done around 1832. slan Cyril Newsome Loch Garman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walter Josephy" <walterjosephy@shaw.ca> To: <IRISH-IN-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [UK-Irish] John Carney & Mary Riley > Hi Cyril, > Agreed! What date is the UK Census they're first on? > Susan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cyril Newsome" <cnews@eircom.net> > To: <IRISH-IN-UK-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 9:23 AM > Subject: Re: [UK-Irish] John Carney & Mary Riley > > > > Ah! > > > > But his only applies Susan if in fact you know exactly where to go to for > > the Parish records! > > > > In Tim's case he is only surmising the County, he doesn't even know the > > Parish yet! > > We need to trim the basics first, as he says himself "Both born (and > > married > > I think) in Ireland". > > > > Now that's a long shot to start with. > > > > There are some 650+ CARNEY'S listed in the Griffiths index for the whole > > of > > Ireland both North and South which theoretically should give us the > > location > > of John CARNEY b.1843'ish but for Tim to identify any one of these > > Parishes > > with no information, other than what he has posted is a mammoth task! > > > > We can narrow this down to around about 93/95 CARNEY names actually being > > in > > Co. Mayo with indeed 3 names with the spelling of CARNY in the whole of > > Ireland being located in Co. Mayo also! > > > > > > slan > > Cyril Newsome > > Loch Garman... > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Walter Josephy" <walterjosephy@shaw.ca> > > To: <IRISH-IN-UK-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 4:35 PM > > Subject: Re: [UK-Irish] John Carney & Mary Riley > > > > > >> Hi Tim, > >> Though the civil registrations of marriages and births only state > > "Ireland" > >> often Roman Catholic baptisms and marriage certificates will actually > > state > >> the county of origin in Ireland. I have found that with my gggrandparents > >> from Tuam, Galway. > >> Susan > >> Canada > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Tim Brooke" <tim.brooke@FaberMusic.com> > >> To: <IRISH-IN-UK-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:37 AM > >> Subject: [UK-Irish] John Carney & Mary Riley > >> > >> > >> >I wonder if anyone can help me? I'm trying to track down my Great Great > >> > Great Grandparents John CARNEY (b abt 1843) and Mary RILEY (b abt > >> > 1841). > >> > Both born (and married I think) in Ireland. They later came to the UK > > and > >> > settled in Batley, West Yorkshire where they had children Patrick, > > Andrew, > >> > Michael, John and Thomas that I know of. > >> > > >> > I don't know where in Ireland they came from (the UK censuses only list > >> > the > >> > country), though there is a strong chance it might be Co Mayo, given > >> > the > >> > large influx from that county into West Yorkshire at that time. > >> > > >> > I would welcome any advice in this matter. > >> > > >> > Many thanks > >> > > >> > Tim Brooke > >> > Essex > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > The information and attachments (if any) in this email are > >> > confidential, > >> > may be legally privileged and are intended solely for the addressee(s). > >> > Access, copying or re-use of information within it by anyone else is > >> > unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient you should not > >> > disclose, copy or use any part of it. 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Cyril, I am sorry, we are talking at cross-purposes. I misread, and thought that John Carney and Mary Riley had already moved to UK, and hence I was asking about the year of the census, so he could pinpoint the approximate year they moved. I know what Griffiths' Valuation is and The Tithe Appointments is, as well, but I do thank you for your response.

I apologise from this end also Susan, on reviewing Tim's original posting, he doesn't indicate which Census he was on about either, so sorry for that. slan Cyril Newsome Loch Garman... (Sunshine at last!!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walter Josephy" <walterjosephy@shaw.ca> To: <IRISH-IN-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:50 PM Subject: Re: [UK-Irish] John Carney & Mary Riley > Cyril, I am sorry, we are talking at cross-purposes. > I misread, and thought that John Carney and Mary Riley had already moved to > UK, and hence I was asking about the year of the census, so he could > pinpoint the approximate year they moved. > I know what Griffiths' Valuation is and The Tithe Appointments is, as well, > but I do thank you for your response. > > > > ==== IRISH-IN-UK Mailing List ==== > The Irish-In-UK Mailing List Website: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishUK/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > >