Thanks for the info. I have managed to find the Simon Ryan on the list you mentioned, and as its quiet tonight, (everyone must have gone out tonight instead of doing their banking)Now I am trying to buy either the book or CD version of Griffiths Valuation...so here goes !!!!! Thanks again -----Original Message----- From: IRISH-IN-UK-L-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:IRISH-IN-UK-L-request@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Jean R. Sent: 21 October 2005 19:20 To: IRISH-IN-UK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [UK-Irish] RYAN, Simon & Griffith's Valuation website --RYAN,Thos., born Carlow Hi Maureen -- Below is a website with extracts from Griffith's Valuation in Ireland. While there were a few Thomas Ryans and a couple Bridget Ryans enumerated in Co. Carlow, I think your best clue might be found in what could be considered a much less common name -"Simon Ryan." There was one Simon Ryan listed living in Co. Carlow, Carlow Town, in Carlow parish. Resource for Griffith's Valuation http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php I suppost, that Simon's given name might even be a "surname in disguise." You often see this is well-to-do families, where a male child's unusual given first or middle name reflects a surname important to the family such as his mother's maiden name. You might want to read up on Simon as a given name and Simon as a surname. Or possibly, there were other Simon Ryans in earlier generations. From: "Ryan, Maureen" <Maureen.Ryan@caterallen.co.uk> To: <IRISH-IN-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [UK-Irish] RYAN...THOMAS, born Carlow Date: Thursday, October 20, 2005 2:36 PM Can anyone out there help me please, I am looking for the parish !!! where my Great Grandfather was born. RYAN Thomas. Born 1851, Carlow, parish not known Parents, Simon and Bridget he emigrated to UK, year not known <snip> ==== IRISH-IN-UK Mailing List ==== To unsub or change your subscription: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Irish/IRISH-IN-UK.html ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx Important: Internet communications are not necessarily secure and may be intercepted or changed after they are sent. The Abbey National Group does not accept liability for any such changes. If you wish to confirm the origin or content of this communication, please contact the sender using an alternative means of communication. This communication does not create or modify any contract. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication you should destroy it without copying, disclosing or otherwise using its contents. Please notify the sender immediately of the error. The Abbey National Group comprises Abbey National plc and its subsidiary group of companies, including Cater Allen Limited. Abbey National plc. Registered Office: Abbey National House, 2 Triton Square, Regents Place, London, NW1 3AN. Reg. No. 2294747. Registered in England. Cater Allen Limited Registered Office: Abbey National House, 2 Triton Square, Regents Place, London, NW1 3AN. Reg. No. 383032. Registered in England.