Personally I prefer ordering BMD certificates online from the GRO. It's easy, not that expensive, and fast. Usually they arrive in the mail within 10 days - nice and flat, not folded. If you have the GRO reference information (district, book, page), the cost is 7 GBP, standard service; 23 GBP priority (not worth it in my mind!). If you don't have the GRO reference, it's 11.50 GBP because they'll have to search. Since you said you found one on Ancestry, then you have the GRO reference information needed to get the certificate for 7 GBP. http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificate/index.asp#0 You will need to register first. The rest is easy - it walks you through everything. There are probably other ways, but for me, this is the most reliable, the easiest, and the quickest. As far as the marriage, have you checked FreeBMD for a marriage match? You can enter the surnames of both parties and see what comes up. Not knowing John's surname, I looked for any marriages of a Jane COX with a John ___ in Derbyshire, and only two came up - 1882 and 1902 - too late to be yours. But FreeBMD is not complete, and of course I only looked in one county. They could have married somewhere else. http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl Kathy Orlando, FL (with ancestors from upstate NY as well) ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat Connors <nymets11@pacbell.net> Date: Monday, December 5, 2005 12:47 pm Subject: [UK-Irish] O'Connor, Connor, Connors > I just found my ggrandfather's brother, John in the England 1871 > census > living with his wife and 1 year old daugher in Wavertree, > Lancashire > which is just East of Liverpool. They had another baby in England > in > 1872 and a baby in the USA in late 1873/early 1874. I found them > in the > 1875 New York State census in Troy NY where my ggrandfather and > their > father were living. > > I would like to obtain the birth certs for the two daughters born > in > England. I found the first listed in Ancestry as having been filed > in > the district of West Derby in the Sept quarter of 1870. What's the > easiest, quickest and cheapest way of going about obtain the birth > certs? > Also, wife, Jane Cox was also born in Ireland but I don't know if > they > married in Ireland or in England. How would I go about searching > out > this if they married in England? Thanks for all the help anyone > can > give me. > > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > > > > ==== IRISH-IN-UK Mailing List ==== > To unsub or change your subscription: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Irish/IRISH-IN-UK.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Confusingly, the West Derby registration district was in Lancashire not Derbyshire. It included what's now part of Liverpool. See: http://www.fhsc.org.uk/genuki/REG/lan.htm When the incomplete Free BMD database (the Ancestry index is based on the FreeBMD database) doesn't have a match for the marriage, birth or death, you can see a complete index using 1837 online: http://www.1837online.com/Trace2web/LogonServlet This is a pay per view service. Best wishes, Sean (Davis, California) On 12/5/05, KNEMARIC1@cfl.rr.com <KNEMARIC1@cfl.rr.com> wrote: > Personally I prefer ordering BMD certificates online from the GRO. It's > easy, not that expensive, and fast. Usually they arrive in the mail > within 10 days - nice and flat, not folded. > > If you have the GRO reference information (district, book, page), the > cost is 7 GBP, standard service; 23 GBP priority (not worth it in my mind!). > > If you don't have the GRO reference, it's 11.50 GBP because they'll have > to search. > > Since you said you found one on Ancestry, then you have the GRO > reference information needed to get the certificate for 7 GBP. > > http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificate/index.asp#0 > > You will need to register first. The rest is easy - it walks you through > everything. > > There are probably other ways, but for me, this is the most reliable, > the easiest, and the quickest. > > As far as the marriage, have you checked FreeBMD for a marriage match? > You can enter the surnames of both parties and see what comes up. > > Not knowing John's surname, I looked for any marriages of a Jane COX > with a John ___ in Derbyshire, and only two came up - 1882 and 1902 - > too late to be yours. But FreeBMD is not complete, and of course I only > looked in one county. They could have married somewhere else. > > http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl > > Kathy > Orlando, FL > (with ancestors from upstate NY as well) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Pat Connors <nymets11@pacbell.net> > Date: Monday, December 5, 2005 12:47 pm > Subject: [UK-Irish] O'Connor, Connor, Connors > > > I just found my ggrandfather's brother, John in the England 1871 > > census > > living with his wife and 1 year old daugher in Wavertree, > > Lancashire > > which is just East of Liverpool. They had another baby in England > > in > > 1872 and a baby in the USA in late 1873/early 1874. I found them > > in the > > 1875 New York State census in Troy NY where my ggrandfather and > > their > > father were living. > > > > I would like to obtain the birth certs for the two daughters born > > in > > England. I found the first listed in Ancestry as having been filed > > in > > the district of West Derby in the Sept quarter of 1870. What's the > > easiest, quickest and cheapest way of going about obtain the birth > > certs? > > Also, wife, Jane Cox was also born in Ireland but I don't know if > > they > > married in Ireland or in England. How would I go about searching > > out > > this if they married in England? Thanks for all the help anyone > > can > > give me. > > > > -- > > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > > > > > > > > ==== IRISH-IN-UK Mailing List ==== > > To unsub or change your subscription: > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Irish/IRISH-IN-UK.html > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== IRISH-IN-UK Mailing List ==== > The Irish-In-UK Mailing List Website: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishUK/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >