In a message dated 12/5/2005 12:44:48 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, kats07@ameritech.net writes: Pat, I know someone in England that does this for us in the US. Pat Connors <nymets11@pacbell.net> wrote: I just found my ggrandfather's brother, John in the England 1871 census living with his wife and 1 year old daugher in Wavertree, Lancashire Pat and Bob, I note you are trying to find records in Lancashire, England. Try _www.lancashirebmd.org.uk_ (http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk) . This will tell you if they have the record, and, if they do, how to order it. I did it and received a copy of a marriage certificate, which cost 7 pounds (I used my Visa) for my Costello/O'Connor/Connor family. The marriage took place in Manchester, England in 1851. If you need more information, let me know. Merry Christmas & Happy New Year Joan R. Plantinga San Jose, CA