The Ireland Genealogy Projects' County Laois/Leix website has been updated. Two new pages for the civil parishes of Kilcolmanbane and Rathsaran have been added and the Killermogh civil parish page has been updated. The following town(land) pages have either been added or update: Ballycarnan, Ballyknockan, Cappoley, Kilcolmanbane, Ballyheyland, Kilvahan, Pass, Borraghaun, Castlegrogan, Craigueavallagh, Eglish, Grogan, Kyleamullaun, Ballycolla, Ballycolla Heath, Ballygauge Beg & More, Cool, Coolderry, Killermogh, Prk, Rathmakelly Glebe, Tintore, Rathleague, Meelick, Strahard, Lyroge, Mountoliver, Oldtown, Park, Rathsaran Glebe, Rossmore, Stradbally Town, Timahoe, Tinnahinch, Portnahinch. New records, links, maps also have been added. You can access the website at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllex/ If you have and additions, questions and/or comments, corrections for the website, please contact me off list. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

or could be spelt duck jean as they spelt it duck 1850 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com> To: <IRISH-IN-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [UK-Irish] er surnames - DUKE > Hi Bridie, Just adding your surname to the subject line so researchers can > see it. What period of time are you referring to, DUKEs from Longford in > London. Presently? Any particular area of London? Do you have any > addresses for them to help pin them down, wife's names, any maiden names? > The more information the merrier. Jean xx > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bridie Woods" <buttonswoods@eircom.net> > To: <IRISH-IN-UK-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:03 AM > Subject: [UK-Irish] er surnames > > > > looking for andrew duke /joseph duke in the london area, dont know where > would have conections in the longford area ireland. if anyone can help > please > > > ==== IRISH-IN-UK Mailing List ==== > The Irish-In-UK Mailing List Website: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishUK/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

no jean i dont have wife maiden names or what part of london i just remember them coming home when i was a child ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com> To: <IRISH-IN-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [UK-Irish] er surnames - DUKE > Hi Bridie, Just adding your surname to the subject line so researchers can > see it. What period of time are you referring to, DUKEs from Longford in > London. Presently? Any particular area of London? Do you have any > addresses for them to help pin them down, wife's names, any maiden names? > The more information the merrier. Jean xx > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bridie Woods" <buttonswoods@eircom.net> > To: <IRISH-IN-UK-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:03 AM > Subject: [UK-Irish] er surnames > > > > looking for andrew duke /joseph duke in the london area, dont know where > would have conections in the longford area ireland. if anyone can help > please > > > ==== IRISH-IN-UK Mailing List ==== > The Irish-In-UK Mailing List Website: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishUK/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Jean I love these articles as it reminds me of my Irish Heritage with warts and all. The Limerick progrom is a shameful episode of Irish intolerance.. The Jewish quarter in Limerick was attacked by a mob and instigated by a Fr I Creagh. The Jewish people who settled there were from Russia on the way to the States. There were two ship loads of people and for some reason or other found their way to Limerick City. There were some elements such as money lending and the rag trade used as excuses for the violent attacks on the Jewish community. Boycotts were instigated which eventually forced the defenceless fledgingly community to leave Limerick. Two famous Irish men were on both sides of the split of the divided public opinion of the day in Ireland. Arthur Griffith for and Michael Davitt against. Having noted the above in the 1950s Dublin elected its first Jewish Lord Mayor R Briscoe and his son Ben later Mayor of Cork Ciaran Colgan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com> To: <IRISH-IN-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 3:00 AM Subject: [UK-Irish] "Irish Heart Jewish Soul" - Favourite Irish/Jewish Songs (NELKIN) - History/Jews in Ireland > SNIPPET: "Irish Heart Jewish Soul, Favourite Irish and Jewish Songs" > 2004 CD: The Jewish community in Ireland is not large, but its > contribution to Irish life and culture is very notable. Singer Carl > NELKIN, supported by fiddle, pipes, mandolin and percussion present a > selection of Irish songs including "Love Thee Dearest," "By the Short Cut > to the Rosses," "Bantry Bay," "Danny Boy" and Jewish melodies from the > Yiddish theatre, interpreting Jewish-Irish intercultural activity and > unique inheritance of Irish Jews by the use of traditional Irish > instruments in the music for songs including the traditional "Der Rebbi > Elimelech, Mazl" from the film "Mamele" and the lovely lullaby "Yankele" > written by the great Polish folk singer Mordechai GEBIRTIG in the tragic > year 1942. These songs are sung in Yiddish and a printed version of > English is provided, per review in Irish magazine. Info: cnelkin@iol.ie. > > Some background -- "Jews have a long, but by no means continuous, history > in Ireland. Scattered references to their presence have been discovered > between the 11th and 13th centuries. In 1290 Jews were expelled from the > dominions of the English crown, though there are stray references > thereafter to individuals, including some refugees from Spain and Portugal > in the 16th century. Jews began to resettle in England from 1656 and had > reappeared in Ireland by the 1660s. Dublin had a rabbi by 1700, and a > Jewish cemetery opened in 1718. By the mid-18th century Cork also had an > organized community. Jews were by now sufficiently numerous, or at least > noticeable, for their status to become a political issue. Proposals to > permit their naturalization were debated by the Irish parliament on four > occasions between 1743-1747, but rejected each time. A British act of > 1753, which would have permitted naturalization in both Great Britain and > Ireland, was repealed after eight months due! > to hostile agitation. The Irish Naturalization Act of 1784 explicitly > excluded Jews, a provision repealed only in 1816. > > The Jewish presence in Ireland remained a volatile one, highly responsive > to economic and other circumstances. From the 1690s Dublin had attracted > a group of wealthy merchants originally based in London; most of these, > however, returned to England during the depressed years of the late > 1720s. At the end of the 18th century the Dublin community largely > collapsed, due partly to conversion and intermarriage with Christians, but > also to emigration at a time of political unrest and economic uncertainty. > In 1818 there were said to be only two Jewish families in the city. From > the 1820s a new Jewish popilation appeared, of German and Polish origin > but coming to Ireland via England. A high proportion were goldsmiths, > silversmiths, and watchmakers, or dealers in tobacco, cigars, and snuff. > In 1874 Lewis HARRIS (1812-76), merchant and jeweller, stood successfully > for election in Dublin corporation. Overall numbers remained small: the > census recorded 393 Jews in 1861 and only! > 285 in 1871. From the 1880s, however, there arrived a much larger group > of immigrants from eastern Europe, mainly refugees from prosecution in > Tsarist Russia. > > By 1901 Jewish numbers had risen to 3,769. This influx of mainly poor > eastern Europeans encouraged a degree of anti-Semitism, notably in > Limerick, where inflammatory preaching by a Redemptorist priest, John > CREAGH, inspired a two-year boycott of the city's Jewish shopkeepers and > traders" -- The Oxford Companion to Irish History," new edition/2002, > Oxford Press/editor, S. J. CONNOLLY, Prof. Irish History, Queen's > University, Belfast. > > > > ==== IRISH-IN-UK Mailing List ==== > The Irish-In-UK Mailing List Website: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishUK/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

looking for andrew duke /joseph duke in the london area, dont know where would have conections in the longford area ireland. if anyone can help please

Hi Bridie, Just adding your surname to the subject line so researchers can see it. What period of time are you referring to, DUKEs from Longford in London. Presently? Any particular area of London? Do you have any addresses for them to help pin them down, wife's names, any maiden names? The more information the merrier. Jean xx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bridie Woods" <buttonswoods@eircom.net> To: <IRISH-IN-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:03 AM Subject: [UK-Irish] er surnames > looking for andrew duke /joseph duke in the london area, dont know where would have conections in the longford area ireland. if anyone can help please

SNIPPET: Edmund RICE, born in Callan, Co. Kilkenny, Ireland, 1762, is credited with founding two teaching religious orders, the Christian Brother and the Presentation Brothers, and their schools are to be found all over the world. His father farmed 182 acres and their long, low, thatched room cottage was typical of the "strong farmer class," with four bedrooms, a parlour, a kitchen and a small hall. Though the walls were made of mud, it has survived in a remarkable state of preservation right down to the present day. Edmund's uncle, Michael RICE, maintained a thriving provisioning trade in Waterford City, Co. Waterford. As a young man, Edmund came to the bustling port city and worked with his uncle. He was talented and energetic and soon became a very wealthy man. Within 20 years, through trade and investments, he had amassed a fortune. Details of Edmund's personal life are sparse. His genuine modesty and reticence make him an elusive subject for a biographer, and he left no diaries or memoirs. Only after much persuasion did he allow his portrait to be painted. His letters tend to be practical and business-like. In 1785, he married Mary ELLIOTT. Little is known of his wife but that she died in 1789, leaving Edmund to care for their handicapped daughter. This shattering experience marked a decisive turning point in Edmund's life. From this date his religious faith and the practical expression of it became the dominant feature of his life as he spent more time in prayer and helping a great number of people in Waterford who suffered poverty and injustice. His concerns at this period included the plight of the sick, orphans and prisoners. He considered joining the Augustinian Order and leading a contemplative life in a monastery, but he was dissuaded by his friends who convinced him that his calling was to the poor of Waterford City rather than the seclusion of the monastic cloister. In 1802 he established a free school for poor young people. Having provided for his daughter, Mary, who was cared for by his family, he left his comfortable house and lived over the school. He was joined by two Callan, Co. Kilkenny men, and they formed a religious community dedicated to "raising up the poor." For the first time, poor Catholic boys were given the opportunity of an education with no interference with their religious beliefs. The poorer pupils received a daily meal of bread and milk and a tailor was employed to provide suits and repair the boys tattered clothing. Less than 40 years later, the Brothers had almost 8,000 pupils on their rolls and had six schools in England catering for the children of Irish emigrants. They instilled in these pupils the virtues of discipline, hard work and sobriety. The curriculum was constructed so as to meet the employment demands of a 19th century industrial society and particular emphasis was placed on literacy in English and bookkeeping was one of the practical subjects taught. Many were attracted by his vision and generosity and the educational mission of the Brothers spread throughout Ireland and to many parts of the world. It may be possible to locate and obtain genealogical information in an annual publication that began in 1887 called "The Necrology." Produced by the Christian Brothers, these contained brief biographies of Christian Brothers who had died in the previous year and others who had joined the order and stayed until their death. It is believed that some of these books were shredded or burned when some of the monasteries subsequently closed down. Perhaps some family history societies have been able to salvage sets of these valuable publications. Perhaps other religious orders have similar collections. Edmund RICE died on August 29, 1844, at Mount Sion, the site of his first monastery, and he was beatified in Rome on October 6, 1996. Excerpts from Cork's "Irish Roots," periodical 1996, #4.

The Ireland Genealogy Projects, County Armagh website has been updated. New civil parish webpages have been added for Magheralin and Drumcree with webpages for all townlands located in the civil parishes. The following townland pages have either been added or updated: Clankilvoragh, Derrylisnahavil, Donagreegh, Baltylum, Clownagh, Corcullentragh Beg & More, Drumnasoo, Garveghy, Kilmoriarty, Maghon, Annagh, Artabrackagh, Ballyoran, Portadown Town, Ballysheil More, Ballyworkan, Drumnakelly, Drummenagh, Seagoe Lower, Eglish, Corlust, Tullykevan, Clonmakate, Creggan Bane Glebe, Tanderagee Town, Ballynarry, Loughgall Town, Mullantine, Selshion, Aghanergill, Corglass, Annagora, Annakeera, Ballyfodrin, Ballymakeown, Breagh, Cannagola Beg & More, Canoneill, Clonmartin, Coharra, Cornamucklagh, Cushenny, Derrylettiff, Tullyvallan, Newtown Hamilton Town, Allistragh, Diviny, Drumalis, Drumharriff, Druminallyduff, Drumlellum, Drumnevan, Farra, Kingarve, Leganny, Richmount, Aghavellan, Roughan, Timakeel, Timulkenny, Unshinagh, Ballynagowan, Clonamola, Corbracky, Cornalack, Derryall, Derryanvil, Derrybrughas, Derrycaw, Derrycory, Derrykerran, Derrymacfall, Derrymattry, Derryneskan, Derryvane, Drumcree, Drumgoose, Foy Beg & More, Kilmagamish, Muckery, Tavanagh, Corcrain. Other pages have also been either added or updated on the website, especially surnames, links, land divisions and records. If you have any corrections, additions, questions, and/or pictures, please write me off list. You can find the website at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirarm2/ I have access to the Griffith's Valuations for the county and would like to get more civil parishes transcribed and on line. If you have the time and the inclination or questions, contact me off list. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Pat, Here in Scotland these are called Scotch pancakes, we eat them with butter or jam on them all year round but not traditionally with sugar, although it sounds good. We also make them on Shrove/ Pancake Tueasday. Beth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Connors" <nymets11@pacbell.net> To: <IRISH-IN-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 8:35 PM Subject: Shrove Tuesday Pancake Recipe from County Mayo >SNIP Fry in spoonfuls on a greased pan. Butter them as they come off the >pan and sprinkle with sugar. > > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com >

This was indeed the post to which I refered! I don't think that I can beat that Jean! Speak soon Gilly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com> To: <IRISH-IN-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [UK-Irish] IGOE family in London 1872 - present day (?WATTS/ROBINSON/IGO) > Hi Irene of Seattle. (Maybe this is what Gilly is referring to). Have > you > seen (or placed) the following post at CousinConnect.com regarding > WATTS/ROBINSON/IGO? Sounds like your family. Unnamed poster (but you can > reply to the website) states is a descendant of James WATTS, boot and > shoemaker, Stillorgan, Dublin, born Sligo 1808. WATTS married Ellen > ROBINSON. Their child, Mary Jane WATTS, ran away to London with John > IGOE > of Sandyford according to 1881 census, married 1872, lived Hackney until > he > died in 1886. Their children: Eleanor Susan, Isabella, John James, > Gertrude, Thomas Henry and William Euart IGOE. Jean > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Irene" <limey1ne@comcast.net> > To: <IRISH-IN-UK-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 4:56 PM > Subject: [UK-Irish] IGOE family in London 1872 - present day > > >> Dear Listers, >> My Gt-grf JOHN IGOE came to London and m. MARY JANE WATTS of Stillorgan, > nr. Dublin, in 1872. They lived in Hackney and had 6 children. Eldest was > my > grmother Eleanor Susan b. 1873, then Isabella who m Mr.EDWARDS >> an electrician of Hendon and had Tommy and Eileen(please where are they). >> John James and his brother Thomas Henry went to the Brentwood Boys Home > Orphanage after their father died in 1886. John James joined the > Nottingham > Sherwood Foresters Regiment as a bandboy and served for 16 years. He died > 2 > years after being discharged in 1908, of TB. His brother Thomas Henry > joined > the Navy at aged 18 and served in many ships (I have his record) he left > Navy in around 1922 and I have no knowledge whether he married, >> emigrated or what. Have not found a marriage or death record in England. > In 1881 English census John states his birthplace as Sandyford, Dublin, > and > on marriage licence says his father is Lawrence a builder contractor. No > town mentioned. Have been wrestling with this problem for over >> 40 YEARS please somebody help me. Irene of Seattle. >> >> >> ==== IRISH-IN-UK Mailing List ==== >> The Irish-In-UK Mailing List Website: >> http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishUK/ >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >> > > > ==== IRISH-IN-UK Mailing List ==== > The Irish-In-UK Mailing List Website: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishUK/ > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

Add on to Pat,s recipe a squeese of fresh lemon juice, after cooking. Delicious Rory --- Pat Connors <nymets11@pacbell.net> wrote: > Another pancake recipe from the Irish Heritage > Newsletter: > > Irish Heritage member Mary Ellen's recipe > Shrove Tuesday Pancakes from Westport County Mayo > > 1 lb. Flour > 1 teaspoon bread soda (baking soda in USA) > 1 teaspoon salt > 4 eggs, > Milk, enough to make a thick batter > Butter > Castor (granulated sugar) sugar > > Sift flour with salt and bread soda. Break eggs into > a well in the > center of flour and mix well. Beat in enough milk to > make a thick > batter. Fry in spoonfuls on a greased pan. Butter > them as they come off > the pan and sprinkle with sugar. > > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > > > > ==== IRISH-IN-UK Mailing List ==== > The Irish-In-UK Mailing List Website: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishUK/ > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search > not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > >

SNIPPET: John HOWARD, born circa 1726 in London, was an important British prison reformer. He was apprenticed to a London grocer as a young man but inherited a fortune at the age of 25. He built model cottages for his workmen, but did not begin his major work until his appointment as High Sheriff of Bedfordshire in 1773. In this job, shocked by what he found in prisons, he began a monumental study called "The State of the Prisons in England and Wales" (1777). It led Parliament to correct many abuses. To keep his study up to date, Howard visited every prison in the country four times, and traveled throughout Europe visiting prisons and plague hospitals, measuring rooms, inspecting kitchens, and talking with inmates. He died in 1790 while on an inspection tour of military hospitals in Russia. Howard spent his entire fortune on his remarkably thorough work. He stubbornly refused to be sidetracked, and forced reforms by the objectivity of his evidence. Excerpt, "World Book" en! cyclopedia. (Perhaps one of your ancestors benefited from his reforms!)

Someone sent a message asking for help in finding some of their family was it in London? I accidentally deleted the message after thinking I might be able to suggest something. If you can re-send I'll have another look. Sorry to be vague but I think it was the only message in the last couple of days. Regards Gill

Another pancake recipe from the Irish Heritage Newsletter: Irish Heritage member Mary Ellen's recipe Shrove Tuesday Pancakes from Westport County Mayo 1 lb. Flour 1 teaspoon bread soda (baking soda in USA) 1 teaspoon salt 4 eggs, Milk, enough to make a thick batter Butter Castor (granulated sugar) sugar Sift flour with salt and bread soda. Break eggs into a well in the center of flour and mix well. Beat in enough milk to make a thick batter. Fry in spoonfuls on a greased pan. Butter them as they come off the pan and sprinkle with sugar. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

This is from this month's Irish Heritage Newsletter. Shrove Tuesday - In My Day and Long Ago http://www.irishcultureandcustoms.com Throughout the British Isles and in many European countries, the day before Ash Wednesday - Shrove Tuesday - is commonly known as Pancake Day. As children, we loved watching the Pancake Races. Usually, the contestants were housewives. Each of them carried a skillet which contained a large, very thin pancake. The idea was for the women to race to the finish line, tossing their pancakes as they ran. It was hilarious - especially when a stray pancake landed where it wasn't supposed to! My other vivid memory of the day is my dad fixing our Shrove Tuesday supper - pancakes! As good as they were, we never had them at any other time of year. And, as good a cook as my mother was, she always let Dad take over the kitchen. Mum always claimed she was too heavy-handed to make good pancakes. I think it was a ploy on her part to let Dad have all the fun. Mesmerized, we all watched as he mixed the ingredients, prepared the pan, and then poured the batter for the first cake. Then, we'd let out loud whoops of glee as he deftly tossed the cake high into the air. Everyone held their breath to see if he'd catch it back into the pan again. Rarely did he miss. As soon as the cake was done, he slid it on to a plate that had been warmed in the oven. Quickly, he sprinkled sugar all over it, squeezed on the lemon juice and then rolled it up like a crepe. In fact, that's really what it was. One after another, the cakes were piled on to the plate and kept warm in the oven until he'd made enough to feed us all. The pancakes disappeared almost as quickly as my father did when supper was over. As the next day was the beginning of Lent, he'd be taking the pledge - i.e. abstaining from alcohol until Easter Sunday. So, he always went off to the local pub on Shrove Tuesday to enjoy a last night out. An exception was made for St. Patrick's Day - but that's another story. In many countries, Shrove Tuesday was, and still is, a day of public revelry and carnivals. But, in Ireland long ago, it was usually a family celebration. For the faithful, Lent meant abstaining from eggs and all dairy products, so all of these had to be used up before Ash Wednesday. Generally, the family, and sometimes friends and neighbors, gathered around the fire which was often fueled in part by the Christmas holly, saved just for the occasion. The pancakes were baked over the fire and the honor of tossing the first cake was always given to the eldest, unmarried daughter of the host. It was said that if she could toss it and receive it back into the pan successfully, she'd be married within the year; but, if it didn't turn or was dropped, she would remain single. Often, her mother would put her wedding ring into the batter for the first cake; if the daughter was successful in her toss, she would immediately divide the cake into enough servings as there were guests. The person receiving the piece that contained the wedding ring was doubly fortunate - they'd be married that year and their choice of a spouse would be a good one. In addition to enjoying their pancakes, an Irish family in the old days would also have served generous portions of meat as the main course. I do recall that, while my father was making a great show of tossing our pancakes, my mother was at his side fixing his favorite pork chops. But, I don't remember my parents following the tradition observed in some parts of Ireland where a small scrap of meat from the Shrove Tuesday supper was pinned to the kitchen ceiling or inside the chimney. It remained there until Easter Sunday and was done so to bring good luck, prosperity and to ensure there was no shortage of meat. It's hard to believe, but nearly half a century has passed since I first recall my dad making and tossing Shrove Tuesday pancakes. Since then, I've adopted many of the customs we follow in the United States. Tomorrow evening, we'll don Mardi Gras beads and masks, play foot-stompin' jazz on the stereo and indulge in some great New Orleans-style cuisine. However, on the side, there'll also be a plate heaped high with Dad's Irish pancakes! IRISH PANCAKES 2 cups flour 1/2 tsp salt 2 1/2 cups whole milk 2 eggs 1 oz unsalted butter Additional butter for frying granulated sugar lemon juice Beat the milk and eggs together in a bowl. In another bowl, sift the flour and salt together; add half the milk and egg mixture, stirring constantly. Melt the butter and whisk it in. Whisk in the rest of the remaining milk and egg mixture. Allow the batter to stand at least two hours. Melt 1 tbs butter in frying pan, add 1/4 cup batter and tip until the pan is evenly coated. Keep the pan moving as you cook to prevent sticking. When the underside is golden brown, flip the pancake and cook the other side. Slide onto an oven proof platter; sprinkle with sugar and lemon juice and then, roll up. Keep warm in a 300 degree oven until ready to serve. Shrove Tuesday this year is February 28th -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Irene -- A longshot, but you might want to check out the website of John BURNESS (Toronto, Ontario, Canada) on a Google search. Has details on a James William BURNESS and Mary Bridget IGOE who was the daughter of a Patrick IGOE. While it doesn't mention connections to Ireland that I could see, he does have references to Hackney, London, England. (Besides, what is more Irish that the given name Patrick?) Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Irene" <limey1ne@comcast.net> To: <IRISH-IN-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 4:56 PM Subject: [UK-Irish] IGOE family in London 1872 - present day > Dear Listers, > My Gt-grf JOHN IGOE came to London and m. MARY JANE WATTS of Stillorgan, nr. Dublin, in 1872. They lived in Hackney and had 6 children. Eldest was my grmother Eleanor Susan b. 1873, then Isabella who m Mr.EDWARDS > an electrician of Hendon and had Tommy and Eileen(please where are they). > John James and his brother Thomas Henry went to the Brentwood Boys Home Orphanage after their father died in 1886. John James joined the Nottingham Sherwood Foresters Regiment as a bandboy and served for 16 years. He died 2 years after being discharged in 1908, of TB. His brother Thomas Henry joined the Navy at aged 18 and served in many ships (I have his record) he left Navy in around 1922 and I have no knowledge whether he married, > emigrated or what. Have not found a marriage or death record in England. In 1881 English census John states his birthplace as Sandyford, Dublin, and on marriage licence says his father is Lawrence a builder contractor. No town mentioned. Have been wrestling with this problem for over > 40 YEARS please somebody help me. Irene of Seattle. > > > ==== IRISH-IN-UK Mailing List ==== > The Irish-In-UK Mailing List Website: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishUK/ > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

Hi Irene of Seattle. (Maybe this is what Gilly is referring to). Have you seen (or placed) the following post at CousinConnect.com regarding WATTS/ROBINSON/IGO? Sounds like your family. Unnamed poster (but you can reply to the website) states is a descendant of James WATTS, boot and shoemaker, Stillorgan, Dublin, born Sligo 1808. WATTS married Ellen ROBINSON. Their child, Mary Jane WATTS, ran away to London with John IGOE of Sandyford according to 1881 census, married 1872, lived Hackney until he died in 1886. Their children: Eleanor Susan, Isabella, John James, Gertrude, Thomas Henry and William Euart IGOE. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Irene" <limey1ne@comcast.net> To: <IRISH-IN-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 4:56 PM Subject: [UK-Irish] IGOE family in London 1872 - present day > Dear Listers, > My Gt-grf JOHN IGOE came to London and m. MARY JANE WATTS of Stillorgan, nr. Dublin, in 1872. They lived in Hackney and had 6 children. Eldest was my grmother Eleanor Susan b. 1873, then Isabella who m Mr.EDWARDS > an electrician of Hendon and had Tommy and Eileen(please where are they). > John James and his brother Thomas Henry went to the Brentwood Boys Home Orphanage after their father died in 1886. John James joined the Nottingham Sherwood Foresters Regiment as a bandboy and served for 16 years. He died 2 years after being discharged in 1908, of TB. His brother Thomas Henry joined the Navy at aged 18 and served in many ships (I have his record) he left Navy in around 1922 and I have no knowledge whether he married, > emigrated or what. Have not found a marriage or death record in England. In 1881 English census John states his birthplace as Sandyford, Dublin, and on marriage licence says his father is Lawrence a builder contractor. No town mentioned. Have been wrestling with this problem for over > 40 YEARS please somebody help me. Irene of Seattle. > > > ==== IRISH-IN-UK Mailing List ==== > The Irish-In-UK Mailing List Website: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishUK/ > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

Dear Listers, My Gt-grf JOHN IGOE came to London and m. MARY JANE WATTS of Stillorgan, nr. Dublin, in 1872. They lived in Hackney and had 6 children. Eldest was my grmother Eleanor Susan b. 1873, then Isabella who m Mr.EDWARDS an electrician of Hendon and had Tommy and Eileen(please where are they). John James and his brother Thomas Henry went to the Brentwood Boys Home Orphanage after their father died in 1886. John James joined the Nottingham Sherwood Foresters Regiment as a bandboy and served for 16 years. He died 2 years after being discharged in 1908, of TB. His brother Thomas Henry joined the Navy at aged 18 and served in many ships (I have his record) he left Navy in around 1922 and I have no knowledge whether he married, emigrated or what. Have not found a marriage or death record in England. In 1881 English census John states his birthplace as Sandyford, Dublin, and on marriage licence says his father is Lawrence a builder contractor. No town mentioned. Have been wrestling with this problem for over 40 YEARS please somebody help me. Irene of Seattle.

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The County Tipperary, Ireland GenWeb website has been updated. Two more civil parish webpages have been added for two North Riding civil parishes - Templederry and Glenkeen. Each page has the Samuel Lewis 1837 description of the parish, plus a townland map, a link for each townland in the civil parish, LDS Family History Library films with their film numbers, links, etc. There are now 40 civil parish pages on this website. The following townland/town webpages have been either updated or added: Augnahella, Aughvolyshane, Ballyroan, Borrisland North & South, Cappanilly, Castlequarter, Coolataggle, Cooaun, Curraghcarroll, Curraghfurnisha, Curraghgraigue, Drumgill, Drumfarsna, Garrane (2), Gortalough, Gortaniddan, Gorteennabarna, Gorteeny, Gortnacran Beg & More, Kilfithmone, Killamoyne, Knockanevin, Knockbrack, Knockinure, Knocknaharney, Lismakeeve, Liss, Mountgeorge, Rathcardan, Rathmoy, Shanballycleary, Solloghhod-Beg, Tombrickane, Cahir, Boreen, Ballintogher, Tipperary, Ballyporeen, Moanreagh, Ballyglass Lower, Borrisoleigh, Gorteenavalla, Summerhill, Ballyduff, Carrigeen, Cloghinch, Cooleen, Cranavone, Cullahill, Currabaha, Curraghleigh, Curraghkeal, Curraghnaboola, Fantane North & South, Garrangrena Lower & Upper, Glenbreedy, Glenkeen, Glennanoge, Glennariesk, Glentane, Gortnaboley, Grangelough, Grangeroe, Knockakelly, Knockannabinna, Knockanora, Knockshearoon, Knockwilliam, Moankeenane, Rosnamulteeny, Springfield, Coolcormack, Coolderry, Cottage, Dogstown, Kileroe, Paddock, Pallas Lower & Upper, Ballynahow, Castlehill, Knockdunnee, Rusheen Beg & More, Chalkhill, Cloghinch, Cloghonan, Falleeny, Gortnagowna, Gortnalara, Middleplough, Rathanure, Templederry, Tooreagh, Boolabane, Commaun Beg & More, Cummer, Curreeny, Dawsonsbog, Glastrigan, Greenan, Knocknagarve, Sadleirswells, Rathcabban, Cappaghwhite, Ballydrehid, Ballyhone. There are now 847 pages dedicated to individual townlands. Also added are surnames associated with the many townland/civil parishes, RC records for Borrisoleigh marriages, Griffith's Valuations for new civil parishes, pictures and a great contribution from a surfer of the site. A contributor sent in a picture of a painting of Kingswell House, in Sadleirswells, near Tipp Town, painted in the early 1800s by an unknown artist. It is on the Sadleirswells townland webpage and worth a look. You can check out the website at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip/tipperary.htm If you have any corrections, suggestions, and/or contributions, please contact me off list. I would also love to get help with this website. So, anyone with a bit of time who can do webpages, please contact me. I have a number of Griffith's Valuations transcriptions complete and want to get on line but would like do coordinate them with both civil parish and townland pages. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com