hello! have you tried to send for a death cert? PA it is 3.00 if you know at least the year, if not then for 28.00 they do a 2-10 year search (of course you could send in 15.00 for a five year search since you have an idea. if you need the website i will send it. kathy Researching; Dougherty, McLaughlin, Gordon, MacDonald McDonald, Brennan and Shephard in Canada, Ireland, and Phila PA Vollmer (Fulmer), Renz (Rentz), Brauch, Schumacher (Shoemaker), Muller, Blinn and Hofmann in Germany, Ohio and Indiana Baer (Beyer), Paszotta, Carney (Craney), Shutt, Meyers and Jones in Germany, Delaware, Indiana and Philadelphia ----------------------------------------- list "mom" for; Vollmer-L@rootsweb.com Paszotta-L@rootsweb.com Brauch-L@rootsweb.com Germans-to-Phila-L@rootsweb.com Blinn-L@rootsweb.com GERMANS-OH-STARKCO-L@rootsweb.com ----------------------------------------- my home page: http://community.webtv.net/kathy556/DoughertyGordonBaer