Pat, Good luck with the Tithe records. I had the joy of finding no occupiers listed on the land for the two townlands in Turlough Parish in Co. Mayo that I wanted. I was told at the National Archives in Dublin that not all Tithe records listed the occupiers (thank you very much to the one doing the Tithe records there in 1834!). I thought I was going throw a tantrum then but of course it's not the archives' fault. Nora >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >I'm curious about your comment that your ancestor probably came from Tipperary town because no townland was noted > Yes, Nora, most annoying! Since every single baptism and marriage I obtained for this family had not one townland noted, I am now transcribing the whole Griffiths Valuation (from Otherdays.com) for the civil parishes of the Tipperary Catholic parish and then will look at where the Flanagan and O'Connor names occur...since I didn't get a good baptism for my Timothy, I think he was from out of the Cashel & Emly diocese and moved there because that is where his wife, Catherine Flanagan lived (I have her baptism). I have also started transcribing the Tithes for the Tipperary Catholic parish which were conducted about 20-30 years previously. Hopefully, both of these exercises will give me some clues as to where my great grandfather was born in County Tipperary. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA