Hi Nora, It sounds like your ancestors and the rest of the people in those two townlands were in open rebellion against the Tithe in 1834, as was much of Ireland at the time. Using guerrilla tactics, the Whiteboys, Ribbonmen, and Molly Maguires held the countryside by night while the British Army held the countryside under martial law by day. The Tithe went to the Established Church (the anglician Church of Ireland) and had to be collected by force by constables and the British Army. Little wonder that the Tithe was hated by Catholics and Dissenters alike, nearly the entire population. Your ancestors' refusal to pay the Tithe ended the record-keeping you sought. Aided by their resistance and that of their neighbors, the Catholic Emancipation movement and its allies were able to finally abolish the Tithe four years later (1838). Hope that's helpful, Jerry Kelly NA GAEIL MAGAZINE (coming soon and free to an internet near you) ----- Original Message ----- From: <Irishcolleen45@aol.com> To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 5:04 PM Subject: [Irish-American] Re: Death Certificate search > Pat, > Good luck with the Tithe records. I had the joy of finding no occupiers listed on the land for the two townlands in Turlough Parish in Co. Mayo that I wanted. I was told at the National Archives in Dublin that not all Tithe records listed the occupiers (thank you very much to the one doing the Tithe records there in 1834!).