Hi Leigh, If your grandfather was born in 1912, then his father, John McHugh, would be born before 1900. Those records are easily accessible. I checked the Worcester Vital Records at the Worcester Public Library. I found several John McHugh births, but don't know which one, if any, is your great-grandfather. These are just from the index. The complete records are available at the library, but I didn't know which ones might be him. The complete records have more information, such as parents' places of birth, etc... These are the ONLY John McHughs listed in the Worcester Vital Records before 1900: NAME.....DATE OF BIRTH....FATHER....MOTHER McHUGH, John J...Sept 8, 1868...Patrick McHugh...Bessy Sherlock McHUGH, John...Nov 21, 1885...Michael McHugh...Anna Sommers McHUGH, John...Oct 6, 1888...Thomas McHugh...Kate T. Ryan McHUGH, John Thomas...Oct 19, 1888...James McHugh...Bridget Healy McHUGH, John...Feb 24,1893...Patrick McHugh...Maria Curry McHUGH, John...Jan 28, 1897...Bernard McHugh...Hannah Conlin McHUGO, John...Feb 28, 1857...Thomas McHugh...Elizabeth ? (The record says McHugo) ----- Original Message ----- From: Lejax99@aol.com To: IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [Irish-American] On what documents/parents names be given? I have a copy of my grandfathers baptism certificate.. it lists that his fathers name was John Francis McHugh and that he was born in Worchester, Mass... my grandfather was born in the year 1912... any suggestions on what my next step should be in tracking any info on John??? where should i go? where should I look?? thanks Leigh