and just think, the census only shows immediate ancestry ... what about all the descendents with Irish grandparents, great-grandparents, etc. and it's not written on the census Phyllis IRISH-AMERICAN-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >IRISH-AMERICAN-D Digest Volume 04 : Issue 219 > >Today's Topics: > #1 The Great Hunger & The Brits [gfainla@mindspring.com] > #2 Re: [Irish-American] Name Search ["Marilyn Shanahan" <shanahan@ameri] > #3 Re: [Irish-American] Name Search ["Marilyn Shanahan" <shanahan@ameri] > #4 Re: [Irish-American] Brisbane ["Marilyn Shanahan" <shanahan@ameri] > #5 "Boston Evening Transcript," 26 Fe ["Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com>] > #6 Ireland GenWeb County Mayo website [ConnorsGenealogy <nymets11@pacbell] > #7 Re: [Irish-American] "Boston Eveni [Mfallonr@aol.com] > #8 Per Cent of Those Claiming Irish A ["=?iso-8859-1?q?Eilis=20O'Hara?=" ] > #9 Interesting website [ConnorsGenealogy <nymets11@pacbell] > #10 Re: [Irish-American] Per Cent of T [Mautrav@aol.com] > #11 Ireland's Growing Dependence on th ["Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com>] > #12 Re: [Irish-American] Ireland's Gro [Callatran@aol.com] > >Administrivia: >The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List website: >http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > >To unsubscribe to the list or change your subscription to L, or to visit the list's archives, use this website: >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Irish/IRISH-AMERICAN.html >Posting 'unsubscribe' to the list won't work because the computer does work that way. Use the above links to unsub or contact the list adminstrator off list. > >To contact the IRISH-AMERICAN-D list administrator, send mail to: IRISH-AMERICAN-admin@rootsweb.com. > >REMEMBER: When replying to a message, change the subject to reflect the topic you are addressing. Also, remember not to copy the 'whole' digest when replying. Cut the parts that don't pertain to the message you are replying. > > >IMPORTANT RULE: Do not post virus warnings to the list before checking with list admin first. If you do, you will be put on the "reject" list which will allow you to receive messages from the list but not allow you to post to the list. > > > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > The Great Hunger & The Brits > From: > gfainla@mindspring.com > Date: > Fri, 20 Aug 2004 12:42:46 -0700 > To: > IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com > > > Yes, from what I've read of the famines, the Quakers went to great > lengths to help our people during those years. Their aid might have > relieved the suffering even more if the Brits hadn't put up a range of > obstacles to the delivery and distribution of foodstuffs. And the > Brits wonder why the Irish feel such antipathy toward them? Ha! G. > Alexander > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: [Irish-American] Name Search > From: > "Marilyn Shanahan" <shanahan@ameritech.net> > Date: > Fri, 20 Aug 2004 16:23:24 -0500 > To: > IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com > > >Thanks for the hint, Teresa, I will give it a try. >----- Original Message ----- >From: <Purnergee@aol.com> >To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 9:38 AM >Subject: Re: [Irish-American] Name Search > > > > >>My thinking on seeing Brisbane as a first name is that it could be a >>nickname or a name given to someone from Australia. Maybe doing a search >> >> >of Irish > > >>immigrants to Australia could bring another clue. >>Teresa >> >> >>==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== >>The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service >>http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ >>Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. >> >> >> >> > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: [Irish-American] Name Search > From: > "Marilyn Shanahan" <shanahan@ameritech.net> > Date: > Fri, 20 Aug 2004 16:29:57 -0500 > To: > IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com > > >Since I cannot locate Brisbane himself, I can't locate his mother, but >thanks for the idea of the mother's maiden name. Could be. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Glenys Pearson" <glenys.pearson@btinternet.com> >To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 5:07 PM >Subject: RE: [Irish-American] Name Search > > > > >>Brisbane was possibly mother's or grandmother's surname before marriage. >> >>Glenys >> >> >>==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== >>The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service >>http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ >>Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. >> >> >> >> > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: [Irish-American] Brisbane > From: > "Marilyn Shanahan" <shanahan@ameritech.net> > Date: > Fri, 20 Aug 2004 16:58:04 -0500 > To: > IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com > > >Thanks Judy: >I tried your suggestion and did come up with one Brisbane in So. Carolina in >1850. I will try and run with that lead. Thanks again. >----- Original Message ----- >From: <JUDYSPHIL@aol.com> >To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 5:40 PM >Subject: [Irish-American] Brisbane > > > > >>If you have ancestry.com, you can put in just the first name and it will >>kick out all the people with that name. It works well with uncommon >> >> >names. Of > > >>course, you can't put in JOHN and expect to get anywhere. Judy >> >> >>==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== >>The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service >>http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ >>Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. >> >> >> >> > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > "Boston Evening Transcript," 26 Feb 1847 - "Contributions For The > Starving Poor Of Ireland" > From: > "Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com> > Date: > Fri, 20 Aug 2004 20:23:33 -0700 > To: > IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com > > >SNIPPET: The "Boston Evening Transcript," 26 Feb 1847 contained this announcement: "CONTRIBUTIONS FOR THE STARVING POOR OF IRELAND. The subscribers will deem it a grateful duty to be employed gratuitously by their fellow citizens in receiving for the benefit of the distressed in Ireland, donations in provisions or money, and the smallest sum will be accepted. The provisions will be stored and shipped with the greatest possible economy and despatch, and be distributed in Ireland through our respective agents in that distressed country, in such manner as the donors may desire. Persons in the interior wishing to contribute can address their donations to the undersigned, who will cheerfully give any information in their power. Shipments will be made as often as a few barrels can be collected or the means of purchasing. Our recent letters state that Americans never know the distress that prevails in Ireland; that entire families are found dead from starvation, and that i! n! > many cases a few barrels of bread stuffs would have saved hundreds from death. In confirmation of the entire failure of the crops, it is stated that throughout Ireland at the best hotels not a potato is seen upon the tables. HARNDEN & CO, 120 State st, and Court ste., N.B. Persons in any of the ports of the United States wishing to send provisions direct can ship them to Harnden & Co., Liverpool, who will follow their instructions." > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Ireland GenWeb County Mayo website > From: > ConnorsGenealogy <nymets11@pacbell.net> > Date: > Fri, 20 Aug 2004 20:31:29 -0700 > To: > IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com > > > I have updated this website by adding/updating the follow town(land) > webpages: Nymphsfield, Ballina, Cong, Swineford, Turlough, Keeloges, > Westport, Dringeen Eighter, Dringeen Middle, Dringeen Oughter, > Lanmore, Caheredmond, Ardacarha, Ballinlag, Barleynhill, Bohamore, > Carroward, Carrowastle, Carrowgowan, Carrowkeel, Carrowmore, > Carrowntleva, Gortnasillagh, Lisgormin, Lismiraun, Lissaniska, > Listrisnan, Rathrowan, Rathslevin, Shanaghy, Sraheens, Tawnaghaknaff, > Toocananagh, Toonomin, Treanfohanaun, Ballindell East, Ballindell > West, Ballindine East, Ballindine North, Ballindine West, Ballyglass > (Crossboyne CP), Ballyhankeen, Branraduff, Brookhill, Burris, > Caltragh, Carrowbeg, Carrowbeg East, Carrowbeg West, Carrowconor, > Carrowlena, Carrowmarley, Carrowmore (Crossboyne), Carrownlough, > Carrownskehaun, Carrowsteelaun, Castlemagarrett North, > Castlemagarretpark New, Castlemagarretpark Old, Castlereagh, > Cloonbonniff, Cloonmore, Commons, Coolmakean, Coolroe, Crossboyne, > Curraghadooey, Derry, Drumady, Drummin East, Drummin North, Drummin > South, Drummin West, Esker East, Esker North, Esker South, Farmhill, > Garryduff Middle, Garryduff North, Garryduff South, Garryduff West, > Gortanierin, Gortgrave, Greenan, Guardhousepark, Heath, Killeen, > Killeenrevagh, Kilmacanelly, Kilscohagh, Knockananeel, Lawaus, > Leedaun, Lisduff, Lugalisheen North, Lugalisheen South, Mayfield, > Meelick, Millbrook, Newtown North, Newtown South, Pollaniska, > Pollnasillagh, Roosky, Rosskybeg, Rushbrook East, Rushbrook West, > Scardaun East, Scardaun West, Seefin, Skehavaud, Treengarve, Woodstock. > > I have updated the Bohola Civil Parish webpage and added the > Crossboyne Civil Parish webpage. Each CP has links to all the > townlands in the parish. > > If you have surnames, records, links and/or pictures for any > town(land) that you would like to see added to the website, email me > off list and I will include them with my next update in September when > I plan to add a new civil parish plus would like to open the Records > section of the website. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: [Irish-American] "Boston Evening Transcript," 26 Feb 1847 - > "Contribution... > From: > Mfallonr@aol.com > Date: > Sat, 21 Aug 2004 08:39:58 EDT > To: > IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com > > >Jean: > >Thanks to you for filling us in on a great deal of our heritage. > >Mary > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Per Cent of Those Claiming Irish Ancestry by State US 2000 Federal Census > From: > "Eilis O'Hara" <naeireann4@yahoo.ie> > Date: > Sat, 21 Aug 2004 15:18:39 +0100 (BST) > To: > IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com > > >Following is a link to a map which includes the >percent of those in each US State who claimed Irish >Ancestry on the 2000 US Federal Census: > >http://www.us-irelandalliance.org/irish-americans.html > >Eilis O'Hara > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >Yahoo! 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Download Messenger Now >http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Interesting website > From: > ConnorsGenealogy <nymets11@pacbell.net> > Date: > Sat, 21 Aug 2004 08:22:43 -0700 > To: > IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com > > > I bumped into this website today and thought I'd pass it on, you put > your surname in the search box and get a ton of links: > http://www.genealogybuff.com/index.html > Some end at Ancestry.com but most are free. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: [Irish-American] Per Cent of Those Claiming Irish Ancestry by > State US 20... > From: > Mautrav@aol.com > Date: > Sat, 21 Aug 2004 11:31:54 EDT > To: > IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com > > >In a message dated 08/21/2004 9:19:11 AM Central Daylight Time, >naeireann4@yahoo.ie writes: >http://www.us-irelandalliance.org/irish-americans.html >This is a very interesting website. I got some surprises as to which states >had a higher percentage of those claiming Irish heritage. > >Thanks for the website ifo. > >Maureen N > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Ireland's Growing Dependence on the Potato > From: > "Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com> > Date: > Sat, 21 Aug 2004 11:03:12 -0700 > To: > IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com > > >SNIPPET: Ireland's agriculture had failed frequently in the century and a half leading up to the Great Hunger. Failures, some leading to significant death tolls, occurred in 1708-09, 1725-29, 1740-41, 1745-46, 1753, 1766, 1769-70, 1772-73, 1782-84, 1795-96, 1800-01, 1817-18, 1821-22, 1830-31, 1835, 1839, and 1842 . The greatest of these occurred in 1740-41, due to extremely cold weather, and produced a famine that killed as many as 400,000 people -- a level proportionate to the Great Famine of 1845-52. > >Ireland's Great Famine (1845-52) was multifactorial. Ireland's population had doubled from 4,000 in 1800 to over 8,000 in 1845, making it the most densely populated nation in Western Europe. Owing to British colonial policies, the vast majority of the population was so poor that they were dependent upon the potato as their main source of food. Starting in 1845, a mysterious blight destroyed successive potato crops between 1845 and 1852. Lastly - an indifferent British government failed to respond to the crisis, resulting in more than a million deaths and more than a million emigrants. > >The potato was native to South America, in the region of the Andes. Sir Walter RALEIGH is credited with introducing the potato to Europe, planting them on his lands in Ireland in the 1580s. The potato took hold in Ireland for a number of reasons. The Irish climate is particularly well suited to potato growth. Potatoes will grow almost anywhere -- rocky soil, wet bogs or on hills. They are easy to cultivate and produce high yields -- up to six tons on a single acre of land. Other advantages include their easy preparation (no milling, as with grain), lack of disease (before 1845), and extraordinary nutritional value. This was made clear by the many contemporary accounts of the Irish poor as being exceptionally strong and healthy. Irish males on the eve of the Famine were on average the tallest in Europe, per Edward T. O'DONNELL, in his book, "1001 Things Everyone Should Know About Irish American History." > >At first the potato was a food enjoyed only by the Irish gentry. But over the course of the 1600s, the British reduced the majority of the Irish people to the status of peasant farmers on small plots of rented land, who in turn devoted increasing acreage to the growth of potatoes that they ate as a supplement to their diet of oats, grains, and dairy products. In the 18th Century, as conditions for the Irish peasants worsened, it became more and more of a staple crop, especially during the winter. On the eve of the Famine, perhaps a many as 60% of the Irish people were solely dependent on the potato as their main source of food. It must be pointed out, however, than on the eve of the Famine potatoes constituted just 20% of Ireland's annual agricultural output. Irish farmers of all ranks grew oats and grains alongside their potatoes. They also raised cows, goats, pigs, and chickens. Peasant farmers, however, ate very little grain, bacon, meat, or eggs. Instead, these ! p! >roducts, along with some potatoes, were sold for cash to pay their rents. > >Phytophthora infestans ("late blight") was a deadly fungus spread rapidly by spores in air or water. It originated in Mexico, appeared in America in the fall of 1843, and then made its way to Western Europe by way of transatlantic ships. Irish farmers told of it striking overnight, leaving blackened leaves, gooey inedible tubesr and a sickening stench. The first reports of disease among the potatoes of Ireland came from the Botanic Garden in Dublin in August 1845. By September, the blight spread to farms in the northeast, eventually destorying one-third of the potato crop. In 1846, the blight reappeared in June and spread at a rate of 50 miles per week to all 32 Irish counties, destroying almost 90% of the crop. Although the loss of just 30% in 1847 seems small, it was equally devastating because farmers had planted so few potatoes. Half the potato crop of 1848 fell to the blight. Between 1849 and 1852, smaller, localized outbreaks occurred, primarily in the south ! a! >nd west. The blight was not confined to Ireland. The first reports came from Belgium in June 1845. By September it appeared not only in Ireland, but also in parts of England, Scotland, France, the Netherlands, Germany, Scandinavia, and Russia. > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: [Irish-American] Ireland's Growing Dependence on the Potato > From: > Callatran@aol.com > Date: > Sat, 21 Aug 2004 14:13:06 EDT > To: > IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com > > >The whole time during the Irish famine the British who controlled Ireland >were exporting food of all types from Ireland while the irish citizens were >starving to death in Ireland. Their lands were confiscated and the farmers were >left to die with no food or shelter. > >jc > >

Phyllis, The information on the 2000 US Federal census isn't immediate connection, it's all -- grandparents, greatgrandparents, or those who think their ancestors at some point originated in Ireland. Eilis O'Hara ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html