Dear Jerry, Henry, All, I found your postings/threads about the characteristics of various groups in Ireland very interesting and I wonder if you would, might you comment on what you know of MURPHY surname in Connaught, particularly Sligo area. From what I have read (which may or may not be good information) on my surname chart, their were three main Murphy septs, and one was from the area of Sligo, going way way back ---and not related to the other Murphy's mainly in Wexford and other areas where the surname is common. In Sligo, where my ancestors are from, their are only 74 listings in Griffiths, and even fewer in the Sligo/Mayo border, with only three (3) known Murphy families, one being mine. I would like to know more of the history but it is hard to find -- anything that those more informed could comment would be appreciated. I recently had DNA 12 Y done and it came back R1b1, which again from what I have read is a large european Halpotype and does not do much to thin things down. I have been debating have more tests or mtDNA test, but if it will not help thin things down what is the use? I like most cannot spend the time learning DNA testing so it is nice to have someone who knows history AND the DNA to comment on this stuff and I urge you to continue, or perhaps you know of or have web sites where it is spelled out a bit more (without the jargon of scientists, unless absolutel necessary). Thanks, Murph ____________________________________________________ [email protected] wrote: Don't forget to add/check your surname to the Irish-American Mailing List Surname Registry at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/Today's Topics: 1. Re: Thin lips?....What is an Irishman/woman? (Elizabeth Tordella) 2. Re: Thin lips?....What is an Irishman/woman? (Michael O'Hearn) 3. Re: So what is an...... WHAT DO PEOPLE IN ROSCOMMON AND TYRONE LOOK LIKE? ([email protected]) 4. Re: DNA & Mediterranean Traits (Mary Pat) 5. Re: So what is an...... WHAT DO PEOPLE IN ROSCOMMON AND TYRONE LOOK LIKE? (MK Douglas) 6. Re: So What Is An Irishman, Anyway? (Michael O'Hearn) 7. Re: So What Is An Irishman... ARE THE FIR BOLG REAL? ([email protected]) From: "Elizabeth Tordella" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 22:28:34 -0500 Subject: Re: [IRISH-AMER] Thin lips?....What is an Irishman/woman? This conversation would be helped if an hemotologist could weigh in. Many myths exist about heritage. I want scientific statements. Thanks Beth On 1/31/07, Michael O'Hearn wrote: > Exactly, Fran. But the location on the maternal line > would go back many, many generations. Bryan Sykes > originally found seven distinct groups in Europe with > seven varying types of mtDNA. Today, if I am not > mistaken, the number has increased to nine. What the > test will do is tell you which group the ancestor --------------------------------- Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games.