Dear David, I recently sent a post about DNA testing as some others were discussing it and I am interested in this area --- I did not see it go through as I only get digests but your DNA seems DARN close to mine, which I know does not seem like much as even family treeDNA provides a list of exact matches and I emailed the 4-5 people that I had an exact match with (no reply yet) so I was wondering if you had your done on FamilyTreeDNA and is anyone commenting more on this -- someone, or rather two people seemed very informed and I was hoping more discussion on this issue and Irish roots would be forthcoming ! Murph [email protected] wrote: Don't forget to add/check your surname to the Irish-American Mailing List Surname Registry at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/Today's Topics: 1. DNA ([email protected]) From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 21:39:29 EST Subject: [IRISH-AMER] DNA My DNA Haplogroup from Irish gggrandfather's line is R1b1c7. Several mutation steps back has an origin of Iran (Persia). My blood type is O. As Jim wrote on another list these results are consistent with established migration patterns David Nicholson "Memory is the diary we all carry around with us" Oscar Wilde To contact the IRISH-AMERICAN list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the IRISH-AMERICAN mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. --------------------------------- Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out.

Guys, R1b1c7 is the same haplogroup that was found in great numbers in the NW of Ireland and in Scotland which brought up the question of whether those having this pattern are direct descendants of Niall if the Nine Hostages. Frome what I have been finding out, such as through distribution maps, The R1b type is an earlier type from the R1 group of SW Asia which became the dominant group in Western Europe and is extremely prevalent among the Basques and Irish. A subsequent wave of R1b type entered Europe through Asia Minor (Turkey) and settled in the Balkan region. A later variant of R1 is R1a which forms the bulk of the Kurgan culture stretching from the Ukraine south and east into Russia, Iran, Afghanistan and India, and also north and west into Poland, the Baltic, Germany, Switzerland, France, Spain, Britain etc.. The European migrations of all three types occurred at the end of the Ice Age. This group would include the early Celts whose locations were described by Greek and Roman historians as being in central Europe, based on the greater frequency of the type. R1a however does not show up on the chart for Ireland on the map for western Europe. Rather in addition to R1b type, there are also for Ireland smaller percentages of two later Neolithic groups, the first being a type of haplogroup I originating in the Middle East and travelling westward through northern and southern Europe and very common in Sardinia, and the second in smaller percentages being a type of haplogroup E3B which spread from East Africa west with the expansion of agriculture and is most common among the Berbers of North Africa and also in the Basque regions. Hope this helps. Michael O'Hearn --- Murph <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear David, > > I recently sent a post about DNA testing as some > others were discussing it and I am interested in > this area --- I did not see it go through as I only > get digests but your DNA seems DARN close to mine, > which I know does not seem like much as even family > treeDNA provides a list of exact matches and I > emailed the 4-5 people that I had an exact match > with (no reply yet) so I was wondering if you had > your done on FamilyTreeDNA and is anyone commenting > more on this -- someone, or rather two people seemed > very informed and I was hoping more discussion on > this issue and Irish roots would be forthcoming ! > > Murph > > [email protected] wrote: > Don't forget to add/check your surname to the > Irish-American Mailing List Surname Registry at: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/Today's > Topics: > > 1. DNA ([email protected]) > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 21:39:29 EST > Subject: [IRISH-AMER] DNA > > My DNA Haplogroup from Irish gggrandfather's line is > R1b1c7. Several mutation > steps back has an origin of Iran (Persia). My blood > type is O. As Jim wrote > on another list these results are consistent with > established migration patterns > > David Nicholson > > "Memory is the diary we all carry around with us" > Oscar Wilde > > To contact the IRISH-AMERICAN list administrator, > send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the IRISH-AMERICAN mailing > list, send an email to [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss an email again! > Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail > arrives. Check it out. > > ====Irish American Mailing List===== > Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing > list Surname Registry at: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com