This ws rather fun. My ggrandparents were from Galway, Mayo, Waterford, Antrim, and --tada--Roscommon. Those who favormy mother--the Roscommon side--are very fair skinned, blue eyed, and sandy haired in varying depths--some have a tinge more red than others. Course today, I have more of a tinge of red than I did 30 years ago. Oh, and yes, I daren't go into the sun without taking quite a bit of care. Kathleen [email protected] wrote: Hi Fran, Have never been in Co. Roscommon or Co. Tyrone so can't tell you what they look like. But can tell you that Roscommon is the headquarters of the Uí Bhriúin Aí (the Uí Bhriúin on the plain of Aí) who are a branch of the Uí Bhriúin (descendants of Brion son of Eochu Mugmheadhon - CAUTION - THESE ARE NOT, REPEAT NOT, THE O'BRIENS) who are a branch of the Connachta (descendants of the god Conn) who are a branch of the Féni ('ourselves'? 'noble people'? - too old a name to know for sure. By this point, as you see by the Connachta, we're way back into the pre-Christian period.). Meanwhile, Co. Tyrone (Tír Eoghain or 'country of Eoghan' in Irish) is the headquarters of the Cineál Eoghain ('kinship of Eoghan') of the Uí Néill In Tuaiscirt (Uí Néill of the North) of the Uí Néill (the descendants of Niall of the Nine Hostages, also a son of Eochu Mugmheadhon) of the Connachta of the Féni. But I'm Cineál Chonaill ('kinship of Conall') on my father's mother's side which is a branch of the Uí Néill In Tuaiscirt of the Uí Néill of the Connachta of the Féni. And I descend from the Uí Fhiachrach Aidhne (Uí Fhiachrach of the plain of Aidhne) on my mother's side which is a branch of the Uí Fhiachrach (descendants of Fiachra, son of Eochu Mughmheadhon) of the Connachta of the Féni. So, if I were to wildly extrapolate from what I look like, I'd say the Uí Bhriúin Aí in Co. Roscommon and the Cineál Eoghain in Co. Tyrone would have sandy brown to brown hair sometimes with a tint of red, blue eyes, about 6 foot tall, solid bone structure but not as heavy as the Kerryman, and unlike the pure white skin of the black-haired Kerryman, a light skin which can go pretty darn brown in summer if careful, but will burn badly if not careful. But like I say, I've never been to Roscommon or Tyrone, so this is pure guess. Also, these are not the only tribes in Co. Roscommon and Co. Tyrone, just the dominant tribes since the 5th-7th centuries AD. Le gach dea-ghuí / Best, - Jerry _____ From: Fran Weeks [ Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 8:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: So what is an...... Hi Jerry, Do you have anything to say about those from County Roscommon or County Tyrone? I found your information very interesting and based upon pictures of my Kerry people - quite accurate. Thanks. Fran ====Irish American Mailing List===== Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname Registry at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message