Jean, Come on now. I have referenced the same etymology as yours. There were Anglo-Irish families like those of Michael Hally's wife Kate English. But what you suggest would be like saying that you or your husband's surname is derived from an English family whose family name pertains to a type of grain customarily thrown at weddings, rather than to a descendant of the Welsh king Rhys (ap Rhys in Welsh). My gg-grandmother Ellen was Ellen Hally before she married and Ellen Powers after she married in Ireland and after she arrived in the USA. Both good Irish names. We are talking Irish here, not English. The best, Michael ____________________________________________________________________________________ Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com