I have a g-grandmother, Anne Maley, who married Michael Colfer here in the States . . . she was baptized at Rathangan, Co. Wexford, in 1846, and left Ireland with Michael in the Summer of 1866 . . . they were married in the States a couple of months after their arrival . . . her baptismal record places her townland as Baldwinstown. I have lots of missing pieces in my family tree research, and would love to know if there is a connection here . . . my Anne Maley's parents were Bryan and Mary (Neil) Maley. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Joe -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [IRISH-AMER] Last Will and Testament and other documents...Ohio Patricia, My ggrandmother (Rose Ann "Annie" GORMAN MALEY RATHBONE) appointed her father (Philip GORMAN) as guardian of her three children after her husband (Edward MALEY, Jr.) and their father died at a young age (32) so that each year she could and did charge and submit a bill for their school supplies, medical, clothing and etc. She also had married and had 2 children by her second husband. Even when her daughter (Nellie) died she charged the estate of her first husband for burial, doctor and etc. of her death at age 11. When my grandfather (James MALEY) reached the age of 21, what was left in his father's estate it was divided in half and the balance was held for his younger brother (Philip Edward "Spot" MALEY , but the mother still charged for the care of her youngest son. When he reached 21 yrs of age he got the balance of his father's estate that was left. I really have hard feelings towards her for being so greedy (My ggrandmother). Patricia MALEY-CURTIS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 4:34 PM Subject: [IRISH-AMER] Last Will and Testament and other documents...Ohio > My GrUn James DALY wrote his last W & T, 11 Dec 1842. It was properly witnessed, and then signed by a Judge. It appointed a guardian for his minor child, although his wife was still young and alive, and named this guardian as the Will's executor also. This person's name was Francis Moran. > > On 9 May 1843, James' wife, Ana Maria went before the Court of Common Pleas, and had the Judge who signed the Will, 'affirm' that he was present at the signing of the Will, and that indeed it was James' signature on the handwritten will. This created another paper document. > > My assumptions: James died before 9 May 1843. > My GRgf, Lawrence moved into the household after his brother's death, married Ana Maria, and therefore, there was no need for an execution of the will. I don't find any papers indicating that Francis Moran became a guardian of James and Ana's minor son. > > My questions: What other papers would have been present to show the Will's execution? > > With other estates, I've seen property listings, receipts for lawyer fees, etc. With this one I found nothing. Someone wrote on the front of the will "Closed-up apparently" which leads me to believe they found no paperwork subsequent to the affidavit dated 9 May 1843, either. > > This would be easy to figure out if the minor child's name remained "Reselaer L" as his father gave it to be, but I believe that this child becomes the James, that is shown, on the 1850 Census as the youngest child of Lawrence and Maria. James and Renselaer seem to share the same birth year. > > Why were there no guardianship papers filed? Why was a 'guardian' necessary with the child's mother still alive? > > If anyone can help me clarify this situation, I'd appreciate it. > > Sincerely, > Patricia > > ====Irish American Mailing List===== > Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname Registry at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.13/632 - Release Date: 1/16/07 4:36 PM > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.13/632 - Release Date: 1/16/07 4:36 PM ====Irish American Mailing List===== Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname Registry at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

Joe, I don't have any Colfer's or Neil's in my files and the only Bryan Maley I have is Brian Patrick Maley b 17-Aug-1964 s/o Betty Lou JACKSON and Patrick Rudolph MALEY. O'NEIL-Martha Jane m Paul HOUCHIN; Mary Jane m John O'MALLEY/MALEY; Sarah m Hugh McNALLY and Thomas Leo m Sarah BATES. I am sorry I couldn't find a connection. Regards, Pat O'MALLEY/O'MALEY/MALEY-CURTIS ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [IRISH-AMER] Last Will and Testament and other documents...Ohio > I have a g-grandmother, Anne Maley, who married Michael Colfer here in the States . . . she was baptized at Rathangan, Co. Wexford, in 1846, and left Ireland with Michael in the Summer of 1866 . . . they were married in the States a couple of months after their arrival . . . her baptismal record places her townland as Baldwinstown. > > I have lots of missing pieces in my family tree research, and would love to know if there is a connection here . . . my Anne Maley's parents were Bryan and Mary (Neil) Maley. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Joe > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:42 PM > Subject: Re: [IRISH-AMER] Last Will and Testament and other documents...Ohio > > > Patricia, > My ggrandmother (Rose Ann "Annie" GORMAN MALEY RATHBONE) appointed her > father (Philip GORMAN) as guardian of her three children after her husband > (Edward MALEY, Jr.) and their father died at a young age (32) so that each > year she could and did charge and submit a bill for their school supplies, > medical, clothing and etc. She also had married and had 2 children by her > second husband. Even when her daughter (Nellie) died she charged the estate > of her first husband for burial, doctor and etc. of her death at age 11. > When my grandfather (James MALEY) reached the age of 21, what was left in > his father's estate it was divided in half and the balance was held for his > younger brother (Philip Edward "Spot" MALEY , but the mother still charged > for the care of her youngest son. When he reached 21 yrs of age he got the > balance of his father's estate that was left. > I really have hard feelings towards her for being so greedy (My > ggrandmother). > Patricia MALEY-CURTIS > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patricia" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 4:34 PM > Subject: [IRISH-AMER] Last Will and Testament and other documents...Ohio > > > > My GrUn James DALY wrote his last W & T, 11 Dec 1842. It was properly > witnessed, and then signed by a Judge. It appointed a guardian for his > minor child, although his wife was still young and alive, and named this > guardian as the Will's executor also. This person's name was Francis Moran. > > > > On 9 May 1843, James' wife, Ana Maria went before the Court of Common > Pleas, and had the Judge who signed the Will, 'affirm' that he was present > at the signing of the Will, and that indeed it was James' signature on the > handwritten will. This created another paper document. > > > > My assumptions: James died before 9 May 1843. > > My GRgf, Lawrence moved into the household > after his brother's death, married Ana Maria, and therefore, there was no > need for an execution of the will. I don't find any papers indicating that > Francis Moran became a guardian of James and Ana's minor son. > > > > My questions: What other papers would have been present to show the > Will's execution? > > > > With other estates, I've seen property listings, receipts for lawyer > fees, etc. With this one I found nothing. Someone wrote on the front of > the will "Closed-up apparently" which leads me to believe they found no > paperwork subsequent to the affidavit dated 9 May 1843, either. > > > > This would be easy to figure out if the minor child's name remained > "Reselaer L" as his father gave it to be, but I believe that this child > becomes the James, that is shown, on the 1850 Census as the youngest child > of Lawrence and Maria. James and Renselaer seem to share the same birth > year. > > > > Why were there no guardianship papers filed? Why was a 'guardian' > necessary with the child's mother still alive? > > > > If anyone can help me clarify this situation, I'd appreciate it. > > > > Sincerely, > > Patricia > > > > ====Irish American Mailing List===== > > Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname Registry > at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.13/632 - Release Date: 1/16/07 > 4:36 PM > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.13/632 - Release Date: 1/16/07 4:36 PM > > > ====Irish American Mailing List===== > Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname Registry at: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > ________________________________________________________________________ > Check out the new AOL. 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