In a message dated 1/21/2007 6:01:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: ON ancestry there are family trees that match this one and they have with the last name of Shannon on it, they have his DOB as 1903 The tree is done by Colleen Lynch Daughter of Patrick She has Johns parents and everything down Check it out its public. If you are not a member let me know and I will help you out. Any tree on Ancestry should also be on Rootsweb/family trees Eliz