Neil, I have a John Washington HOLLOWAY b 1739 m Eleanor J. ? had a daughter by the name of Margaret HOLLOWAY b ca-1755 m 1769/70 Killion (William GRIEG/KRIEK) CREEK-he also married Lutillio I. HOLLOWAY. I was wondering in your research if you ever ran across this family. Curtis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Van Alstyne" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: [IRISH-AMER] Hawley/Hally/Holway/Holloway > I have been looking at some of the posts concerning the Hawley surname. I > have Holloway/Holway ancestors that were also from County Tipperary. My > Holloway/Holway ancestors were from Stonepark, Glen of Aherlow, County > Tipperary, Ireland. I am wondering if there is any connection between Hawley > and Holway? Also, if there is no connection, I am wondering if someone knows > the history and origin of the Holloway/Holway family in Ireland. > > Thanks! > > Neil > > _________________________________________________________________ > Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. > http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_donation&FORM=WLMTAG > > > ====Irish American Mailing List===== > Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname Registry at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.14/637 - Release Date: 1/18/07 1:03 PM > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.14/637 - Release Date: 1/18/07 1:03 PM
Curtis, I have not found anyone of this name in our Hally family. The earliest I have gotten back was for Michael Hally who put on his declaration of intent in Wisconsin that he was born in 1790 in Ireland. The family lived in Aughvanlomaun townland, Newcastle Parish, County Tipperary but I have not found any type of documentation of where they were before that. Census records indicate that he may have been born any time between 1888 and 1900. Of course there are no baptism records existing for those dates. The Newcastle parish records for baptisms begin in 1815 I believe. There could be a connection because of where both families lived, but I have no clue as how to prove or disprove a connection. Many Hawley names seem to be of English descent rather than Irish where it seems that until they arrived in the US were Hally's. Regards, Sandy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Curtis Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 6:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRISH-AMER] Hawley/Hally/Holway/Holloway Neil, I have a John Washington HOLLOWAY b 1739 m Eleanor J. ? had a daughter by the name of Margaret HOLLOWAY b ca-1755 m 1769/70 Killion (William GRIEG/KRIEK) CREEK-he also married Lutillio I. HOLLOWAY. I was wondering in your research if you ever ran across this family. Curtis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Van Alstyne" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: [IRISH-AMER] Hawley/Hally/Holway/Holloway > I have been looking at some of the posts concerning the Hawley surname. I > have Holloway/Holway ancestors that were also from County Tipperary. My > Holloway/Holway ancestors were from Stonepark, Glen of Aherlow, County > Tipperary, Ireland. I am wondering if there is any connection between Hawley > and Holway? Also, if there is no connection, I am wondering if someone knows > the history and origin of the Holloway/Holway family in Ireland. > > Thanks! > > Neil > > _________________________________________________________________ > Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. > http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtaglin e_donation&FORM=WLMTAG > > > ====Irish American Mailing List===== > Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname Registry at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.14/637 - Release Date: 1/18/07 1:03 PM > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.14/637 - Release Date: 1/18/07 1:03 PM ====Irish American Mailing List===== Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname Registry at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Curtis, Are these births in America? Whereabouts? Killion Creek's first name seems like it has to be the Irish Cillian. If so, then the surname would be Creagh which could easily wind up as Creek / Kriek, pronounced pretty close to KREE-ick with stress on the first syllable. I can't find any other Irish surname which would naturally wind up as Creek. Creagh is a pretty close anglo approximation for Craobhach ('branch-like'), one of the few adjectival surnames in Ireland. The Craobhach are a branch of the Ó Neighill (O'Neill) in Limerick. This family is not related to the Ó Néill of Ulster. Why did Killion choose William as his replacement name for Cillian? It's not like going from Liam to William or Seán to John. I'm guessing his original name was Cillian Liaim Craobhach (Cillian 'of Liam' Craobhach). In other words, I'm guessing that Liam was his father's name and he was already known, at least back in Ireland, as Cillian Liaim, in order to distinguish him from cousins of the name Cillian. This is the common Irish naming convention when you have cousins, friends, relatives of the same first name. You use your father's or mother's name to help. So I'm Gearóid Liaim or Gearóid Róis (Gearóid of Liam or Gearóid of Rose) to distinguish me from my cousin Gearóid Éibhlín (Gearóid.of Eileen). Best, - Jerry -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Curtis Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 9:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRISH-AMER] Hawley/Hally/Holway/Holloway Neil, I have a John Washington HOLLOWAY b 1739 m Eleanor J. ? had a daughter by the name of Margaret HOLLOWAY b ca-1755 m 1769/70 Killion (William GRIEG/KRIEK) CREEK-he also married Lutillio I. HOLLOWAY. I was wondering in your research if you ever ran across this family. Curtis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Van Alstyne" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: [IRISH-AMER] Hawley/Hally/Holway/Holloway > I have been looking at some of the posts concerning the Hawley surname. I > have Holloway/Holway ancestors that were also from County Tipperary. My > Holloway/Holway ancestors were from Stonepark, Glen of Aherlow, County > Tipperary, Ireland. I am wondering if there is any connection between Hawley > and Holway? Also, if there is no connection, I am wondering if someone knows > the history and origin of the Holloway/Holway family in Ireland. > > Thanks! > > Neil > > _________________________________________________________________ > Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. > http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtaglin e_donation&FORM=WLMTAG > > > ====Irish American Mailing List===== > Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname Registry at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.14/637 - Release Date: 1/18/07 1:03 PM > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.14/637 - Release Date: 1/18/07 1:03 PM ====Irish American Mailing List===== Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname Registry at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message