Thanks Jean. Actually, my Timothy had 3 wives named Ellen! 10 children. (One child by each of the first two)But the last one bore his last 8 children, and the one whose D.C. says Patrick is child # 3. Child # 6 D.C.says Timothy. Both give 3rd Ellen as mother. Trying to find D.C. for some of the others. Baptism records for both these children say Timothy, by the way. Trying to figure if his birth record should say Patrick or Timothy, can find no record of his Irish birth , nor of any marriage! Cathy----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean R." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [IRISH-AMER] NAME VERSIONS - Researching Original Records > Hi Cathy, What are the dates, locations of the entries you found? > Ireland? > Consider that you may have data for a couple different families given the > repetition of surnames and given names. Perhaps a child was born to > Timothy's widow who had subsequently remarried? (It wasn't unusual for a > widow to have remarried her late husband's brother, etc.) > > Your local LDS (Mormon) Family History Center has access to many original > church (and other) records on microfilm and microfiche that anyone can > take > a look at. If a particular record isn't found on site, they will send for > it for you from their centralized record repository. They may also have > additional data on particular IGI entries in their computerized records -- > i.e., a particular town, rather than a registration district, etc. Since > I > don't have a paid subscription to Ancestry.com, I have chosen to go in to > my > local FHC (as a non-Mormon) to work on genealogy. > > When I found entries of interest on an IGI index of births and > christenings > in Co. Leitrim (and I had heard that the family had roots in Drumshanbo > area), I visited my local LDS (Mormon) Family History Center library. > Volunteers were able to obtain for me from Salt Lake City in a few days > (and > for a rental fee of less than four dollars) a microfilm with ORIGINAL > church > records for several Leitrim churches including the one I was most > interested > in. They helped determine what I needed, did the paperwork, called me > when > the microfilm came in - helped me get the microfilm in and out of the > reader - assisted me in any way that they could. I had goosebumps as I > gazed on the handwritten pages of the original (somewhat tattered) little > black church record book for St. Pat's chapel in Drumshanbo. Names of > children along with parents' names were written in Latin in chronological > order that included the names of two witnesses to the circa mid-1860s > events -- apparently related family members as most had the same surnames > as > the bride and groom. There were odd notations in the margins including > references to particular towns. One page was an alphabetical index for > children born to particular couples. While scrolling through the various > church records on the entire microfilm I saw that some were more legible > that others depending on the handwriting of the person recording the > original entries. With the help of a LDS volunteer, I was able to > photocopy > pages directly from the microfilm for a small charge, take them with me to > examine more closely at home at my leisure. The LDS FHCs have readers > with > magnifying features and also magnifying glasses you can use on request. > They have a library of reference books including a key to Latin names. I > have spent many pleasant hours there in the past. Jean > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cathy Connelly" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 5:47 PM > Subject: Re: [IRISH-AMER] NAME VERSIONS > > >>I also have a question about names. One of my ancestors is shown on all >> census forms as Timothy, his wife on land records as widow of Timothy, >> but >> on one child's death record , father's name is shown as Patrick. Any >> thoughts on which would have been the "first" name? >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Linda Hess" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 5:34 PM >> Subject: Re: [IRISH-AMER] NAME VERSIONS >> >> <snip> > > > ====Irish American Mailing List===== > Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname Registry > at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message