Hi Mary, It varies by dialect. When an mh has as the closest vowel in the same word a broad vowel (a, o, u), it's called a broad consonant. Some dialects pronounce a broad mh as W, others as V, and others as VW, a sound we don't have in English. I'd say that most dialects pronounce the mh in A Mháire as a W sound, but that's based on what I've heard over the years rather than a comprehensive survey. LGDG ./ Best, - Jerry -------------- Original message from "maidremm" <maidremm@alltel.net>: -------------- > Jerry, > > Thank you for the lesson. One more question is Mh pronounced as V? > > Thanks > > Mary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 10:19 PM > Subject: Re: [IRISH-AMER] need help with translation > > > Hi Mary, > > When you address somebody in Irish, it's called the vocative case and > changes the spelling and the pronunciation. But when Mary is used as the > subject of a sentence, it's called the nominative and it's exactly what > you're used to already. > > Le gach dea-ghuí, - Jerry > > > -----Original Message----- > From: irish-american-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irish-american-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of maidremm > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 10:02 PM > To: irish-american@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRISH-AMER] need help with translation > > Jerry, > > I always thought that Mary was Máire. Does the h in it make it sound like > vary? > > Mary > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 8:48 PM > Subject: Re: [IRISH-AMER] need help with translation > > > > > > Fáilte romhat, a Mháire. / You're welcome, Mary. > > -------------- Original message from "Mary Parks" > > : -------------- > > > > > >> Jerry, > >> Thanks so much for your response, it is much appreciated. I was surprised > >> that I sent the request on 11/23 and it didn't show up on the list serve > >> until yesterday. Odd, don't you think? > >> Mary > >> > >> ******************************************************************* > >> The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will > >> insist > >> on coming along and trying to put things in it. > >> Terry Pratchett > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: irish-american-bounces@rootsweb.com > >> [mailto:irish-american-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > >> jerrykelly@att.net > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 8:38 PM > >> To: irish-american@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: Re: [IRISH-AMER] need help with translation > >> > >> A Mháire, a chara / Dear Mary > >> > >> Sáraíonn an solas an dorchadas. / Light > >> overcomes/exceeds/transcends > >> darkness. > >> > >> Le gach dea-ghuí / Best, - Jerry > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: irish-american-bounces@rootsweb.com > >> [mailto:irish-american-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary Parks > >> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 10:20 AM > >> To: irish-american@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: [IRISH-AMER] need help with translation > >> > >> Dear Irish friends, > >> > >> My son needs help with a class paper he is writing. Can anyone please > >> translate the following into Gaelic? He wants as close an approximation > >> as > >> possible, it does not need to be "literal" > >> > >> > >> > >> "Light transcends the darkness" > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks in advance for the help! > >> > >> Mary > >> > >> > >> ====Irish American Mailing List===== > >> Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname > >> Registry > >> at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> IRISH-AMERICAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > >> ====Irish American Mailing List===== > >> Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname > >> Registry > >> at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> IRISH-AMERICAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ====Irish American Mailing List===== > >> Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname > >> Registry at: > >> http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> IRISH-AMERICAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ====Irish American Mailing List===== > > Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname Registry > > > at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRISH-AMERICAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ====Irish American Mailing List===== > Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname Registry > at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-AMERICAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ====Irish American Mailing List===== > Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname Registry > at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-AMERICAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ====Irish American Mailing List===== > Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname Registry at: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-AMERICAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message