Any suggestions from list as to how I might find a marriage documentation or birth certificate for a gggrandparent She was married in Tipperary to James Shanahan, and all I know is her first name of ELIZA. (I think the townland where James was born was Templederry, although no documentation to prove it, simply the Griffiths Evaluation of that era. I presume she was also from Tipperary, since she was born in 1817 according to US census where she emmigrated in Oct of 1855. I am trying to find her maiden name or place of birth. Thanks to all for your willingness to help. M. Shanahan

Due to the time period, you need to rely on church records. Assuming you Shanahan was a Catholic, you can check what years are available at this site: http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/browse/counties/rcmaps/ As you can see County Tipperary is divided by North and South Ridings. So if you are looking for records for Templederry, you need to know what RC parish this is in first. So go to this site and search for the townland: http://www.seanruad.com/ You will find it is in the Templederry Civil Parish in the North Riding. However, the civil parish is not always the same as the RC parish (just to keep you brain in gear). So now I suggest a website that I volunteer to maintain. It has a section on Civil Parishes at: http://www.irelandgenweb.com/~irltip/facts.htm You will find I have a webpage for the civil parish at: http://www.irelandgenweb.com/~irltip/CivilParishes/TemplederryCP.htm Right off you will find the RC parish is called, Killanave & Templederry. So now you go back the Irish Times site and see what records are available for the years you need. Also, since Templederry RC Parish is in the Killaloe Diocese, you can search for records on the Ireland Foundation site: http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/ However, be warned, the site will allow you to search and you may come up with a couple of hits but see all the info in the records, you have to pay and when see the record, they may not be yours. Well, my lesson of the day on how to research in Ireland. Hope it helps. Any suggestions from list as to how I might find a marriage documentation or > birth certificate for a gggrandparent > She was married in Tipperary to James Shanahan, and all I know is her > first name of ELIZA. (I think the townland where James > was born was Templederry, although no documentation to prove it, simply the > Griffiths Evaluation of that era. > I presume she was also from Tipperary, since she was born in 1817 according > to US census where she > emmigrated in Oct of 1855. I am trying to find her maiden name or place of > birth. > -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Thank you so much Pat. I will try all of your "tried and true" suggestions. I know I have tried the Seanruad.com site and came up with the parish as Kilmore. I am guessing that is wrong now that I see your instructions. I have also used the Ireland Foundation site and after three or four tries and three or four wrong hits, I haven't given it a try since. I will make sure my information is more correct before I try again. Thanks Pat for your expertise. Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Connors" <nymets22@gmail.com> To: <irish-american@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [IRISH-AMER] SHANAHAN > Due to the time period, you need to rely on church records. Assuming you > Shanahan was a Catholic, you can check what years are available at this > site: > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/browse/counties/rcmaps/ > > As you can see County Tipperary is divided by North and South Ridings. So > if you are looking for records for Templederry, you need to know what RC > parish this is in first. So go to this site and search for the townland: > http://www.seanruad.com/ > > You will find it is in the Templederry Civil Parish in the North Riding. > However, the civil parish is not always the same as the RC parish (just to > keep you brain in gear). > > So now I suggest a website that I volunteer to maintain. It has a section > on Civil Parishes at: http://www.irelandgenweb.com/~irltip/facts.htm > You will find I have a webpage for the civil parish at: > http://www.irelandgenweb.com/~irltip/CivilParishes/TemplederryCP.htm > Right off you will find the RC parish is called, Killanave & Templederry. > > So now you go back the Irish Times site and see what records are available > for the years you need. > > Also, since Templederry RC Parish is in the Killaloe Diocese, you can > search > for records on the Ireland Foundation site: > http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/ > > However, be warned, the site will allow you to search and you may come up > with a couple of hits but see all the info in the records, you have to pay > and when see the record, they may not be yours. > > Well, my lesson of the day on how to research in Ireland. Hope it helps. > > > Any suggestions from list as to how I might find a marriage documentation > or >> birth certificate for a gggrandparent >> She was married in Tipperary to James Shanahan, and all I know is her >> first name of ELIZA. (I think the townland where James >> was born was Templederry, although no documentation to prove it, simply >> the >> Griffiths Evaluation of that era. >> I presume she was also from Tipperary, since she was born in 1817 >> according >> to US census where she >> emmigrated in Oct of 1855. I am trying to find her maiden name or place >> of >> birth. >> > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > > ====Irish American Mailing List===== > Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname Registry > at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-AMERICAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message