I don't think we ever have all the facts. With each new bit of information we can come to a different conclusion. I've been following the Roney/Rooneys for thirty years and, due to new and/or conflicting information, have changed direction on several occasions. I know Barney/Bernard Roney/Rooney was born in Ireland about 1798. Elizabeth (Torney) Roney/Rooney was born in Ireland about 1807. Best estimates would suggest they were married about 1829/30. Family tradition has it that Elizabeth tried to hold the family in the Catholic Church during her later years and was disappointed that the Orleans County area of New York did not have a Catholic diocese. It is safe to assume, therefore, that they were married in a Catholic ceremony. James was born in Ireland Jan 15, 1831. Patrick was born in Ireland May 1, 1833. I know they immigrated to America about 1833/34 but I do not know the port of embarkation or the port of entry. The 1910 census for James has a penciled in notation that would suggest his place of birth was County Down, Ireland. The notation is, however, smudged and the interpretation may not be correct. The death certificate for Henry (youngest son) clearly states the "birthplace" of both Barney and Elizabeth as "Co. Clare, Ireland". The document is signed by "Libby Roney",and, taking into consideration the family connections at that time she would be knowledgeable of both Elizabeth's maiden name and their place of origin (if not birthplace) in Ireland. The other available (so far) death certificates for family members do not give a County designation and only verify the country of birth (Ireland). The likely port of embarkation from County Clare would be Shannon. I would like to develop a list of ships that may have left Shannon for America during the period 1833/34. In addition, and likely more difficult, I would like to determine if any records are available for that area regarding marriages, birth, baptism or the like for any of the four that were born in Ireland. Thank you in advance for any assistance and/or suggestions anyone may offer. Don Campbell Palmetto FL USA dcjefe@verizon.net