*Sources in the National Archives for researching the Great Famine* by Marianne Cosgrave, Rena Lohan and Tom Quinlan: Introduction Download a .pdf version of this article<http://www.nationalarchives.ie/topics/famine/GF.pdf> . Administration during the Famine The Great Famine imposed a severe strain on the Irish government. Of the various offices and boards that constituted the Irish administration, the ones which were affected in a very direct way were: The Chief Secretary's Office<http://www.nationalarchives.ie/topics/famine/cso.html> The Poor Law Commission <http://www.nationalarchives.ie/research/poorlaw.html> The Relief Commission <http://www.nationalarchives.ie/topics/famine/relief.html> The Office of Public Works<http://www.nationalarchives.ie/topics/famine/opw.html> Additional online resources Relief Commission Papers database, 1845-1847<http://www.nationalarchives.ie/search/index.php?category=14> <http://www.nationalarchives.ie/cgi-bin/naigenform02@index=relief%2Bcommission%2Bpapers.htm>A large amount of related material may also be found in the article *Sources in the National Archives for research into the transportation of Irish convicts to Australia (1791-1853)<http://www.nationalarchives.ie/topics/transportation/transp1.html> * Ireland-Australia transportation database<http://www.nationalarchives.ie/topics/transportation/search01.html> This article is an attempt to bring to the attention of those interested in Famine research - whether at local or national level - collections in the National Archives which span the Famine period. These collections - information on which is provided via the links in the table above - not only document the actual measures taken to alleviate distress, but are also an invaluable source for other types of research, such as an analysis both of the extent of distress and of government response at local level, as well as the degree to which prevailing theories of government had an impact on the administration of relief. *Irish Archives* The following pages are an online version of the article *Sources in the National Archives for researching the Great Famine* by Marianne Cosgrave, Rena Lohan and Tom Quinlan. The complete printed version with illustrative examples of the document types mentioned, appears in *Irish Archives, *the Journal of the Irish Society for Archives<http://www.ucd.ie/archives/isa/isa-journal.html>, Spring 1995.

I have been phished. I first got phished when I was on facebook, and then yesterday I was warned by my bank that they too were phished. Here is a bit about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phishing Believe me, I didn't send all those messages, nor did my computer. I am truly sorry it happened but good hearing from you. Pat -- Pat Connors, Sacramento, CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Listers may find the following of interest. Extracts from letters during The Famine. Due to be auctioned on 18th May 2010. The Great Famine<http://www.adams.ie/BidCat/Catalogues.asp?F1=3072&F2=4169&F4=1054&select=7028&status=C> Adam's Salerooms 18 May 2010

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List members may be interested in the following release on the Troy Irish Genealogy Society and the St. Agnes Cemetery Interment database. Out of 21, 344 names in these three books of interments, 7,901 were born in Ireland. Other items of interest to Irish researchers on the TIGS website are: 1. Under PROJECTS, Representative Young Irish Americans of Troy NY 1889 and under LOCAL HISTORY: 2. St. Patrick's Day Riot 1837 and 3. Emly, County Tipperary Connections. ANNOUNCING NEW DATABASE BOOK 3 - INTERMENT INDEX ST. AGNES CEMETERY, MENANDS NEW YORK INTERMENT YEARS - 1886-1910 A. Book 3, part of a multi-volume set of Interment Records at St. Agnes Cemetery, Menands, NY, with 11,844 names, has been added to the Troy Irish Genealogy website. You can view these interment records on the Troy Irish Genealogy website at: www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ click on PROJECTS and then click on ST. AGNES CEMETERY, MENANDS, NY - INTERMENT RECORDS. It should be noted that these records, like most of the TIGS data series, cover the general population in the area and are NOT restricted to Irish surnames. B. This data series of interment records shows an individuals name, date of death and age at death. Those records that had no date of death listed are shown with the interment date and are identified by an asterisk (*). Some death dates prior to 1886, are most likely re-interments from the State Street Burial site which was located at the site of present day Washington Park or from another cemetery. C. The age at death may be shown in either years, months and days. In some cases of newborn deaths the age may even be reported in hours or minutes. Around 90 of the records had no age reported. The following age at death statistics may be interesting of this time period when death at an early age was quite common. 1. Under age 1 - 1,754 deaths including 181 stillborns. 2. Age 1-5 - 1,080 deaths. 3. Age 6-10 - 316 deaths. 4. Age 11-16 - 272 deaths. 5. Age 17-20 - 428 deaths. 6. Age 21-29 - 1,318 deaths. 7. Age 30-39 - 1,441 deaths. 8. Age 40-49 - 1,258 deaths. 9. Age 50-59 - 1,497 deaths. 10. Age 60-69 - 1,336 deaths. 11. Age 70-79 - 726 deaths. 12. Age 80-89 - 267 deaths. 13. Age 90-99 - 57 deaths. 14. Age 100 & over - 4 deaths. D. The TIGS website has a PRINTABLE FORM that can be used to request more information from the Albany Diocesan Cemeteries. Mailing instructions and fees (only $5.00) are on the request form. Additional items available from the full interment record MAY include: 1. PLACE OF BIRTH: Information on the place of birth may be very useful to researchers. Out of the 11,844 records in Book 3, only 614 names did not have the place of birth recorded. The following breakdown on the reported place of birth may be of interest: CAPITAL DISTRICT: Albany - 5,522 Watervliet - 177 West Troy - 176 Troy - 148 Cohoes - 58 Greenbush - 34 Colonie - 27 Green Island - 26 Rensselaer - 23 Schenectady - 15 Menands - 15 TOTAL: 6,221 FOREIGN COUNTRIES: Ireland - 4,179 Germany - 116 Canada - 83 England - 63 Italy - 26 France - 15 Scotland - 15 The Netherlands - 4 Switzerland - 3 Austria - 2 Belgium - 1 Cuba - 1 At sea - 1 TOTAL: 4,509 OTHER STATES: Massachusetts - 23 Vermont - 22 Pennsylvania - 16 Connecticut - 9 Wisconsin - 8 New Jersey - 7 Ohio - 4 Rhode Island - 3 South Carolina - 3 Maryland - 3 Illinois - 2 Virginia - 2 District of Columbia - 2 Minnesota - 1 Iowa - 1 West Virginia - 1 California - 1 Washington - 1 North Carolina - 1 Louisiana - 1 New Hampshire - 1 Kentucky - 1 TOTAL: 113 USA-N.Y.CITY-N.Y.STATE: USA - 10 New York City - 85 Brooklyn - 23 N.Y. State - 6 New York (city or state?) - 8 TOTAL: 132 MISCELLANEOUS: Other cities, towns, counties throughout NYS - 255 2. PLACE OF DEATH: As would be expected, most of the deaths occurred in the City of Albany. Only 10 of the 11,844 records did not show the place of death. The following statistics on selected locations may be of interest: Albany - 9,550 West Troy - 315 Watervliet - 304 Troy - 286 New York City - 207 Cohoes - 157 Green Island - 68 Poughkeepsie - 61 Greenbush - 45 Colonie - 42 Rensselaer - 39 Menands - 20 3. RESIDENCE ADDRESS: The bulk of these interment records will show a street address with a house number. A lesser number may only show the street name or street intersections while some others may just mention the name of the city where the death occurred. This information may be helpful when doing census research. 4. INTERMENT DATE: The date of interment in St. Agnes Cemetery may be another clue which will be helpful to genealogy and family researchers. 5. IN WHOSE LOT THEY ARE INTERRED: Most of these entries show the first and last name of lot owners and in some cases show multiple family names as the lot owners. This information may be helpful to genealogy and family researchers as it may identify surname connections to your family that you were unaware of. 6. LOT NUMBER. 7. SECTION NUMBER. Hopefully you will find some of your ancestors listed among the 21,344 names in the three St. Agnes books that are now on line OR in the various other data series on the Troy Irish Genealogy website. Of particular interest to area researchers would be the 60,000 names in the Rensselaer County Marriage Index. An additional 1,972 names will shortly be added to the 6,073 St. Agnes Book 2 records that are on line. Regards, Bill McGrath TIGS Project Coordinator Clifton Park, NY

I am running a bit late this month. Here are some of the files added in April. I have not included single files like Vital Records and Obits. To view go to: http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/index.htm Click on the COUNTY name and then the heading. I hope you find something of interest. Feel free to forward to any lists where people are researching Irish Ancestors. CLARE - Photos Quin Friary - Vitals Return of deaths for Lahinch Auxiliary Workhouse, for half year ending 25th March 1851 Return of deaths in Moymore Auxiliary Workhouse, Fom 25th Mar 1850-25th March 1851 Return of deaths in Sandfield Auxiliary Workhouse, From 25th Mar 1850 to 25th Mar 1851 DOWN - Land Records Rent Roll 1749 - Estate of Captain Ross DUBLIN - Headstones Deansgrange Cemetery, West Part 2 - Photos Crinken St. James (Church Of Ireland) Fay, John - Memorial on Wall close to Crinken Church Shankill St. Annes (Roman Catholic), Co. Dublin - Directories Apothecaries 1791-1829 - Newspapers Dublin Gazette. Fugitives for Debt 1730-1731 FERMANAGH - Photos St Tierneys Church, Roslea GALWAY Kilclooney Cemetery (partial) KILDARE - Newspapers 4 Dec 1739, Fugitives for debt - Kildare Session KILKENNY - Census Substitutes Kilkenny Landowners 1870's MONAGHAN - Headstones. Kilmore Church of Ireland Graveyard TIPPERARY - Newspaper Nenagh Guardian - Evictions September 7, 1885 WICKLOW - Photos Bray Methodist Church - Headstones Burgage Cemetery, Blessington, Part 2 WESTMEATH - Headstones Multifarnham Cemetery (partial) Regards, Christina (Ireland Genealogy Projects Archives)

Several descendants of Irish born Patrick Larkins and his wife, the former Bridget Ryan, are buried in the St. Joseph's Catholic Cemetery in Sandusky, Erie Co., Ohio. See a photo of the Larkins family lot at: http://graveyardrabbitofsanduskybay.blogspot.com/2010/05/larkins-family-lot-at-st-josephs.html

I think someone on this List enquired for a Miles Burns ?. Miles Burns appears on a list as " a Person Fit and Proper to serve the King" compiled by Sir William Butler in April 1798. His address is Tinryland, Carlow and occupation "Farmer". Funny thing is that following the Rising of 1798 , Miles Burns appears as a United Irishman in a statement of July 1798 seeking a "Protection" from the Magistrates, his address is Tinryland but in this list his occupation is " Blacksmith. In the statement he claims that he was "Sworn in with a Mob by Michael Haydon who was to be Captain"

Thank you for the information. Did not know if jour meant that he worked for a day at a time here or there, which seems to be different from a journeyman, who is in training. The location was 1870 Iowa, if this makes a difference. thanks again Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: <GENTRIE@aol.com> To: <irish-american@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [IRISH-AMER] occupation > Journeyman cooper as compared to a Master cooper. That would mean he > worked > a day for a day's pay. It could be very steady work but he was not the > owner of the shop, the owner was the master. The terms are the from the > Guild > system, which didn't take hold in America in the same form as in England > so > the terms mean slightly different things here. More information can be > inferred by where and when this person was a journeyman cooper. Much > cooperage > are shipping containers, and tends to be made where the product to be > shipped was produced. > > > In a message dated 4/28/2010 5:17:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > shanahan@ameritech.net writes: > > "journeyman", which means >> that he's been practicing his craft for a good long time. > > > ====Irish American Mailing List===== > Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname Registry > at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-AMERICAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Journeyman cooper as compared to a Master cooper. That would mean he worked a day for a day's pay. It could be very steady work but he was not the owner of the shop, the owner was the master. The terms are the from the Guild system, which didn't take hold in America in the same form as in England so the terms mean slightly different things here. More information can be inferred by where and when this person was a journeyman cooper. Much cooperage are shipping containers, and tends to be made where the product to be shipped was produced. In a message dated 4/28/2010 5:17:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, shanahan@ameritech.net writes: "journeyman", which means > that he's been practicing his craft for a good long time.

This past week, I have added the following civil parish tithe applotments to the county sections of my website: County Galway: Kilgerril, Aughrim, Killimore, Killalaghton County Tipperary: Kilgrant, Kilkeary I also added townland maps for the following civil parishes: County Galway: Beagh, Killalaghton County Tipperary: Kilgrant, Kilkeary County Monaghan: Tullycorbet -- Pat Connors, Sacramento, CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Pat, Great site! _http://fsbeta.familysearch.org/s/collection/list_ (http://fsbeta.familysearch.org/s/collection/list) Thanks for sending it. Joan

I recently passed on the beta search site for the new records added to the FamilySearch beta site. Today they came out with a list of the records in their data base at: http://fsbeta.familysearch.org/s/collection/list For those that missed the search site: http://fsbeta.familysearch.org/ Okay, now when you go to the collection list, click on the group of records your want to search. For example, go down to Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620 - 1881 and click on it. You get a page with the title of the records and a description. If you click on 'Learn More', you get a description of how the records were collected and some info on the project. Next you find the Search Collection boxes. Before doing your search, go a little lower below, Show Advanced. Source Information shows what records are actually in the data base you are searching. Note, for these birth, the dates start 1864, not 1620. Maybe eventually they intend to add their church registers but looks like now they have mostly the civil registration records that started in 1864 (marriages for Protestants started earlier). If you go back to the collection and check out New York State 1892 census and do the same process, go below the search boxes, you will find what counties are included. Not all counties are included due to a fire where all were burned but luckily some counties kept copies. It is always good to look at exactly what records you are searching so you are not mislead when you don't get the hits you expect. This is a wonderful resource and all done with volunteers who should be commended for their great work. Have fun hunting. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento, CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

<snip>So, try misspelling a name and see if you get more hits. I laughed so hard at this....I am not getting hits with the correct spelling. Very frustrating. I am going to try this method. Thanks for mentioning it. Kathy in PA Kathy Dulin-Doedderlein Dulin Ancestry - http://tinyurl.com/dulin-jenkins Flaherty Ancestry - http://tinyurl.com/flaherty-coyle

Checking the SeanRuad.com site, and putting in Neal (at the beginning of the townland land and County Mayo, I got one hit: Nealepark in Kilmolara Civil Parish, no Neale found in County Mayo. Checking the Leitrim-Roscommon.com, Mayo 1911 site and searching for all Varley in County Mayo, I got a number of hits for Varley and County Mayo, none for Neale or Nealepark. Searching the free Griffith's Valuation site for same: http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml I got 25 hits... These are the resources I would start with searching for where the Varley name was found in County Mayo. Also, you might try searching the tithe applotments I have on the County Mayo section of my website. They were done in 1820-30s. To save time, use the Google search engine on the page. I am interested in ANY data regarding the name VARLEY in either > County Galway or County Mayo. I am not able to find an Owen Varley > nor his direct relatives from the 1840's to the 1855 period. That > individual was purported to be from Neale, Count Mayo per death > records in the U.S. Many advanced thanks for assistance or help you > or others can provide. This is an outstanding resource. > > PS You probably won't get any/many hits on the FamilySearch site for your people since civil registration in Ireland didn't begin fully till 1864 and you are looking for an earlier time period. Maybe when they get all their church records transcribed, you'll get more hits, but that will be awhile. I think they are working on censuses and civil records first. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

oops and mes culpa!  I really didn't even look aall the way down--and what I sent was waaay too long.   Here it is again:   Very good call--I ws stuck on the "jour" as day from the French, that seems less likely than your interpretation, Jim   Kathleen --- On Tue, 4/27/10, Jim Garrity <jimgarrity@earthlink.net> wrote: From: Jim Garrity jimgarrity@earthlink.net The "jour" probably is an abbreviation for "journeyman", which means that he's been practicing his craft for a good long time.

I am interested in ANY data regarding the name VARLEY in either County Galway or County Mayo. I am not able to find an Owen Varley nor his direct relatives from the 1840's to the 1855 period. That individual was purported to be from Neale, Count Mayo per death records in the U.S. Many advanced thanks for assistance or help you or others can provide. This is an outstanding resource. Tom Varley Northfield, Minnesota Home of the defeat of Jesse James (no not Sandra Bullock's errant husband) On Apr 28, 2010, at 2:10 PM, Kay B wrote: I entered the correct spelling of my husband's last name and got a decent amount of hits, but not as many as I thought there should be. I then entered the spelling of the last name and left out one of the "m's" and got many more names. So, try misspelling a name and see if you get more hits.

I entered the correct spelling of my husband's last name and got a decent amount of hits, but not as many as I thought there should be.  I then entered the spelling of the last name and left out one of the "m's" and got many more names.  So, try misspelling a name and see if you get more hits. Kathleen Brennan Mammoser Researching BRENNAN, BRETT,GALLAGHER & KENNEDY in CO MAYO> CHICAGO and BRENNAN in CO SLIGO> CHICAGO HOWARD in CO CORK> HARVARD , IL > CHICAGO MAMMOSER in Schoenenbourg , FRANCE > CHICAGO   http://www.mammoser.com

I have rejected a number of messages, posted to the list and held, because of their size for my approval. A few of you will get a message from Rootsweb telling you why I rejected them. Please, when replying to the list, look at the bottom of your message and see what is repeated. Okay, it is easy to delete most of the message you are responding to and just leave the part that got you to reply with some helpful information. However, look below the repeated message. Do you see all those signature files? Those are what have to all be deleted! What is a signature file? Is is a message automatically added by a number of ways. Check the bottom of my message, my name and website are automatically added to all my messages. Below that you will find something that Rootsweb adds to all messages posted about unsubscribing from the list. Then there are some that are related to the list. The NY-Irish list signature footer starts with: ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== The Irish-American list signature footer starts with: ====Irish American Mailing List===== All of these signature files need to be deleted from the repeated message before sending your reply. Please! Why? First of all, those who get the lists in digest form, have to wade through all the repeated garbage to get to the next message. Sometimes it is hard to find where the messages begin or end and maybe your message won't get read by someone who could really help you with your research. Secondly, and probably the most important reason, is the lists' archives. Try searching for CONNORS and you will get every message I sent repeated over and over due to all the repeated signature files and there probably won't be many messages about the surname, CONNORS. Check out the searchable archives for the Irish American list at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search?path=IRISH-AMERICAN Put in CONNORS in body box and see what you get. Sorry, to belabor this issue but some are just not getting message and I think it is because they don't know what a signature file is. I am sorry I had to reject so many posts to the list this morning but hopefully after the senders see this message, they will resend the message without all the repeated stuff. Thanks for you cooperation. If you need extra help or want to discuss this message, please email me off the list. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento, CA, list admin http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

thanks Jim...that makes sense. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Garrity" <jimgarrity@earthlink.net> To: <irish-american@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [IRISH-AMER] occupation > The "jour" probably is an abbreviation for "journeyman", which means > that he's been practicing his craft for a good long time. > > Jim > > Marilyn Shanahan wrote: >> Thank you Elizabeth and Michael for this information. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Elizabeth Tordella" <ewtordella@gmail.com> >> To: <irish-american@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 4:07 PM >> Subject: Re: [IRISH-AMER] occupation >> >> >> >>> a cooper (one that builds or fixes barrels, tubs, buckets,and other >>> staved >>> containers). Working as a "day" (Jour in French) cooper may not have >>> been >>> as >>> steady work. >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Marilyn Shanahan >>> <shanahan@ameritech.net>wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Does any lister know what the occupation "jour cooper" refers to? Is >>>> it >>>> a >>>> title for someone who works with plaster? >>>> thank you. >>>> Marilyn >>>> >>>> ====Irish American Mailing List===== >>>> Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname >>>> Registry >>>> at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> IRISH-AMERICAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Elizabeth W. Tordella, MS, RN >>> ewtordella@gmail.com >>> >>> ====Irish American Mailing List===== >>> Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname >>> Registry >>> at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> IRISH-AMERICAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ====Irish American Mailing List===== >> Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname >> Registry at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRISH-AMERICAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > ====Irish American Mailing List===== > Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname Registry > at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRISH-AMERICAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message