Hello Jerry, HAPPY ST PATRICK"S DAY TO YOU Should you have a chance I would really love to know of the Gibbons and Murphy name beginnings.. Mine are both from Mayo - towns of Castlebar and Turlough.. MaryPat

You're welcome, Jackie. The accent marks over the vowels are called síneadh fada ('long stretching') or just fada ('long') because in theory they lengthen the vowel. Until the 1950s we also had accent marks (little dots) over certain consonants. Those have been replaced by putting an h after the consonant in question. Called buailte ('struck' for a strike mark) or séimhiú (translated as 'aspiration'), the Irish government got rid of those and replaced them with the h system because the government decided it couldn't or wouldn't further afford the special-purpose typewriters which had been built for the language since the 1890s. The buailte or séimhiú is currently making a comeback because computers have made this kind of variation cheap and easy to do. Happy St. Patrick's Day, - Jerry Kelly ----- Original Message ----- From: "George & Jackie" <jafm1@patmedia.net> To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 6:53 AM Subject: Re: [Irish-American] Connery - Is it really Irish > Thanks so much Jerry. Didn't know about Sean's grandfather. I have no idea where my Connery's are from in Ireland so I guess Munster is a good place to start! BTW, is there a particular name for the "accent" marks? I can't remember ever hearing what they're called and never really thought about it until now. > > Thanks again! > Jackie

Hello JD, Thank you. Dollard is a county Dublin name since the 13th century. There are at least 6 distinct / unrelated families of Ó Cuinn and Mac Cuinn, both anglicized as Quinn, so here you'll need to know the location first before you can get back into the correct tribe. On Ó Laoghaire / O'Leary, this is a family of the Corcu Laoidhe [Seed (?) of Lugh] and is one of Ireland's "archaic people" counted among the Érainn. The Corca Laoidhe were the major tribe defeated by the Eoghanacht and their Dál gCais allies when the Eoghanacht took the sovereignty of Munster sometime between the 3rd and 5th centuries A.D. Because of their power, the Corca Laoidhe still managed to maintain a portion of their territory and independence even under Eoghanacht rule and subsequent Norman pressure into the 17th century. This family's tribal genealogy is therefore Ó Laoghaire of the Corcu Laoidhe of the Sean-Érainn Mhumhan ('Old Érainn of Munster') of the Érainn. The ancestor-god of the Corcu Laoidhe (older spelling Corcu Luighdhe) is Lugh, after whom they are named. Hope that's helpful, Jerry Kelly NA GAEIL MAGAZINE (coming soon and free to an internet near you) ----- Original Message ----- From: "JD" <jedollard@comcast.net> To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [Irish-American] Re: IRISH-AMERICAN-D Digest V04 #75 > Hello Mr. Jerry Kelly, > > I have been away for a while but it looks like your placing Irish names to > locations, could I ask for information on three, > > O'Leary > Dollard > Quinn > > With thanks and happy St. Paddy's day!! jd > > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. >

Hello Diane, I can't tell about the Nichols family. On Arthur, there is a family in Limerick of Norse origin. There is also the family of Mac Arthur who came into northern Ireland since the 17th century. On Colton, the name is found in Oriel (Monaghan, south Armagh, and parts of Tyrone). There is also apparently the family of Ó Comhaltáin in south Galway whose name is also anglicized as Colton. On Ó Cinnéide / O'Kennedy, you're either Dál gCais directly from Munster or descended from the Ó Cinnéide who went to Scotland and then centuries later had descendants go over to northern Ireland. What I'm trying to say here is that the genealogy of the Kennedy's of Scotland goes back to an Irish ancestor with the name Ó Cinnéide. Hope that's helpful, Jerry Kelly NA GAEIL MAGAZINE (coming free to an internet near you) ----- Original Message ----- From: <KENNEDD@aol.com> To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 11:28 AM Subject: [Irish-American] Arthur, Colton, Nichols, Kennedy > I am in hopes that someone can give me some help with these family names. I > understand from oral family history and the 1930 census that most of them were > from Northern Ireland, but since they all arrived before Ellis Island, I have > no clue where to begin!! > Help! > Diane Kennedy > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. >

Iowa City Press Citizen Iowa City, Johnson, Iowa March 17, 1921 TODAY St. Patrick's Day Patron Saint of The Emerald Isle Made it Christian Sad Celebration of His Land Today. Core of the News. By Dale E. Carrell. Today is known to the world as St. Patrick's Day, the birthday of the patron saint of Ireland, and to those of Celtic blood in every quarter of the globe it is a day of tender sentiment. Saint Patrick's biography is part legendary and part fact. There is a disagreement as to the year of his birth, where he was born and where he died, but his own memoirs and his works contribute sufficient evidence to show how great was this beloved man who did so much for Ireland. Some commentators say he was born about 373, others in 389. Some say he was born in Scotland, some in England and some in France. Some aver he died in France but most contend that he went to the great beyond in the land of his adoption, Ireland. Even the day of March on which he was born is a matter of contention. Some held for years that he was born on the night of the 8th of March, while others contend he first saw the light of day on the 9th of March, and history tells us that the two factions agreed to a compromise which resulted in the adding of 8 and 9 thus the 17th of March has become known as Saint Patrick's birthday. But wherever he was born and when, his name has been forever associated with Ireland. When he was but 16, it is said he was carried away by a band of marauders and was sold into slavery in Ireland. For over six years he is said to have tended the herds of Celtic chieftains. At the age of 22 he escaped from Ireland and wandered far even into a monastery near the Mediterranean Sea, where he studied hard and fitted himself for the carrying out of his dream, the Christianizing of Ireland. He returned to Ireland but this time not as a slave but as a missionary and thru his preaching, paganism, as taught by the Druids, was driven from the Emerald Isle. He is said to have founded over 360 churches and baptized thousands with his own hands. He also introduced the Latin language into Ireland and brought the then isolated isle into close touch with the civilization of western Europe. He brought enlightenment and civilization to Ireland and it is little wonder that the generations that have followed have held him in such reverence. Saint Patrick has left behind him, besides the history of his great achievements in Ireland, three important documents. One is known as his "Confession", which gives some account of his life. An other is addressed to a British or Welsh chief rebuking the murder of Christians,and the last is the "Hymn of St. Patrick" which is a cherished song of praise. Saint Patrick was not only a man of deep spiritual nature but he was also a leader, a man of action, who was able to overcome obstacles and obtain the end in view. His leadership and life has ever been an inspiration to Irishmen, and when his birthday is observed hearts have beaten faster, eyes have brightened and the dreams of liberty have been renewed. He gave liberty and freedom to the Irish from paganism and ignorance, and he has inspired in later generations a hope of freedom and independence for the Irish as a nation whereby self-government is realized. Today is perhaps one of the saddest of all Saint Patrick's days for the Irish. The land of shamrocks, of beautiful lakes, of bog and fen, does not resound with the happy laughter of children, with prayers of thanksgiving of its people, but instead there are cries of anguish, agonizing groans of the dying, and blood is flowing on every hand coloring crimson the sacred soil where Saint Patrick lived and dyeing red the blue waters of the lakes and rivers. Yet after all, there doubtless is a ray of hope, a gleam of sunshine peeping thru which is brought by Saint Patrick, counselling courage and pointing out that as he overcame all obstacles, that even not far distant is the consummation of the dream of all Irishmen, freedom for their race. The fight has been long, the way strewn with death and sacrifice, but when victory comes with the solving of the Irish problem, it should be all the more revered and gratifying. Cathy Joynt Labath Iowa Old Press http://www.IowaOldPress.com/ Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/ Irish in Iowa http://www.celticcousins.net/irishiniowa/index.htm

Nashua Reporter Nashua, Chickasaw, Iowa March 15, 1917 IRELAND'S GLORY. It was the foundation of St. Patrick's greatness that his renovation of Ireland was not a revolution. He left old institutions untouched, wherever they could be purged of a taint of superstition. There were septs and clans, judges, bards and kings before him, and they continued after him. He built his church carefully. To disarm political opposition he appeared straight to the heads of the clans. He aimed at the creation of administrative clergy. He tried to give every community a place of worship. At his death 365 churches lay along the roads his journeys had taken; 365 bishops were distributed throughout the land, 3,000 priests ministered to the spiritual wants of the nation. He attempted to throw into the church thus suddenly created a strong element of stability by systematizing it on the models of the canons and making ecclesiastical law effective in every department. He did not believe in sanctity unassociated with education. Under him religion created great monasteries and monasteries created great schools. By those schools St. Patrick is a factor in the history of Europe. Even before he went to Ireland he had seen the days when Ostrogoths established themselves in Pannonia and Thrace, when the Visigoths sacked the Italian peninsula from end to end and carved out a Spanish kingdom within the domain of great Rome, when the Huns rode their blazing course up the Danube and the Rhine almost to the ocean; when the Vandals terrorized Spain and crushed the power of the empire in northern Africa, when the Salian Franks took firm grip of northern Gaul. His long life stretches over a period during which the whirlwind of barbaric invasions swept away all but a remnant of the ancient language. But now the world went to Ireland, and the Irish brought their school to the world. Religion, the ancient classics, law, history, natural science, agriculture, manual training, the use of implements and the forge, all came within the scope of these intense and practical scholars. Not without reason has the name of St. Patrick been held in veneration through these many generations. There is nowhere a teacher whose services for learning exerted so wide an influence in a time so critical for all culture. There is nowhere a statesman whose activity so completely reformed the character of any people. There is nowhere such a national hero whose fame is sounded across fifteen centuries and can still stir emotions of enthusiasm far beyond his nation's shores. There is nowhere a saint whose teachings are blended like his with the destinies of his nation. -- Irish Leaders in American History. The Declaration of Independence has twelve Irish names. Matthew Thornton, James Smith, and George Taylor were born in Ireland; John Hancock, William Whipple, Robert Treat Paine, George Read, Thomas McKean, Edward Nelson and Thomas Lynch were of Irish parentage. The secretary of congress who prepared the immortal document from the rough draft of Thomas Jefferson was Charles Thompson, a native of Derry, while Captain Dunlop, still another Irishman, printed it, and published it to the world. Captain Dunlop was the founder of the first daily paper in Philadelphia. Remember Native Land. No other people coming to our shores have displayed toward their native land a love more wholesome than the Irish. They keep their children fed upon the tales of the fairies and "little people" who are good to the good children, and whose wrath descends upon the children who are not doing right. Church and Tower at Kells. The celebrated Book of Kells was written there in the sixth century. This church is famous for its historical associations. The town of Kells originated in a monastery founded by St. Columba. Ireland's Towers. The towers, which are numerous throughout Ireland, have been the subject of much controversy among antiquarians. They are thought to have been used as a means of defense. Four or Five-Leaved Shamrock? Some say the four-leaf shamrock is the shamrock of luck, and others say that it is the five leaved one that holds the magic touch. This latter is rare and prized and said to grow from a decaying body, as the nettle is said to spring from buried human remains. The shamrock of luck must be found "without searching, without seeking." When thus discovered it should be cherished and preserved as an invincible talisman. Many Irish Flags. Quite a number of flags have figured in Irish history. Not the least popular among these is the flag exhibiting three golden crowns imposed on a blue ground. This flag was accepted after the Norman invasion in the year 1170, as the ensign of Ireland, the three crowns representing the kingdoms of Desmond, Ormond and Thomond. It was retained until 1547 when Henry VIII abolished it and substituted the harp. Date of Saint's Death. In his extreme old age St. Patrick wrote his "Confession," which concludes with these words: "And this is my confession before I die." He died at Saul on the 17th of March, A.D. 465. The roster of the revolutionary war is bright with Irish names. General Montgomery was a native of Donegal. Lord Mountjoy in a speech before the house of commons declared. "You have lost America through the Irish." In Education and Sports. Among the Irish educators in America may be mentioned Horace Greeley, William Rainey Harper and William Maxwell. The Olympic games of a few years ago were planned by Sullivan Halpin and Mike Murphy. Martin Sheridan, the great all-around athlete, is Irish, and the national game of baseball is claimed as of Irish origin. True to His Allegiance. The Celts were the last of the races to accept Christianity, but having accepted it, they cling tenaciously. The Irish Celt is slow to adopt either religious or political innovations, but once his allegiance is given, it is extremely difficult to shake it. Presidents of Irish Parentage. Presidents of Irish parentage were Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, James Polk, James Buchanan, Chester A. Arthur, and William McKinley. Calhoun, also Irish, said "War may make us great, but peace alone can make us both great and free." For Fifteen Centuries the Reek Has Played Important Part in Country's History. It is in the month of July that the great annual pilgrimage of The Reek takes place. The Reek, sometimes known as Croagh Patrick, is the Mount Zion of the Emerald Isle. For on its summit St. Patrick is said to have wrung from the angel many promises for the salvation of the people he had made his own. For fifteen centuries this mountain has played an important part in the religious history of Ireland, and year by year people journey by the thousands up the mountain, which is about 3,000 feet high. It is a steep and difficult ascent, occupying the best part of three hours, and most of the pilgrims make it in the evening, so as to hold their vigil on the summit. There is a little chapel on the mountain top. But it is so small that few can find a place therein, and most kneel outside. The sermons preached are in Gaelic, and the masses continue from daybreak until noon. St. Patrick is on record as having visited the Reek in A.D. 441 and spent forty days on its summit hidden from the world by the mists hanging about the lower portion of the mountain. The legend says that he was assailed by huge black birds, which only took to flight when he rang his bell against them. The bell rolled down the mountain, but an angel came and restored it to the saint. All of the men of Erin heard this ringing of the bell, and it is stated now that it is often heard again. Afterward St. Patrick was visited by angels, and from their leader he wrested the following pledges: That as many souls as should be saved as could fill the horizon which he looked upon; that on every Thursday seven souls and on every Saturday twelve souls should be freed from purgatory; that whoever recited the last verse of his hymn constantly should suffer no torments in the next world, and that on the last day he should be appointed to sit in judgment on the sins of Gael. Cathy Joynt Labath Iowa Old Press http://www.IowaOldPress.com/ Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/ Irish in Iowa http://www.celticcousins.net/irishiniowa/index.htm

This is not re: Irish Brown Bread ( I had mine today). But I want to say "ERIN GO BRAGH" Happy St. Patrick's Day to all. Judy Christopher ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Connors" <nymets11@pacbell.net> To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [Irish-American] Irish Brown Bread > > > > > >This is one you sent to us last week.... > > > Thanks. Would you believe I posted the brown bread message on the > Ireland list, you answered it on the Irish American list and I found the > recipe I wanted on my own website under th NY Irish mailing list's > recipes! The recipe I used last year included rolled oats and wheat > germ and was delicious and very much like what you get in Ireland which > has gotta be the best bread I have ever had. > > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > Professional Genealogy Research > All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002 > > > > > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. > >

Fáilte romhat, a Shéamuis. / You're welcome, Jim.

Thanks for the clarification, Pat, but I know you're doing an awful lot of work. - Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Connors" <nymets11@pacbell.net> To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [Irish-American] Albany Naturalizations on line > > > > > >Many thanks to you and your volunteers > > > > Oh, Jerry, I didn't do these, I was just sharing information. I just > put some on line for Oneida Co NY and have transcribe many for > Rensselaer Co, but not Albany. The OiveTree website is not mine but > Lorrine has had it for many years. > > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > Professional Genealogy Research > All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002 > > > > > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. >

AVOCA, CO. WICKLOW Step down from the bridge. A spit of grass points At the confluence. Tree he sat beneath Spoiled for souvenirs, Looks numb as driftwood. A pretty fellow In stone broods over The meeting waters. His words came alive But the music's flow, Like weeds in water. I recall my aunt, my second mother, Singing Tom Moore at the old rectory Harmonium -- "The Last Rose of Summer," "She is Far from the Land" -- her contralto Scoop, the breathy organ, an oil lamp lit. Words and tune met, flowed together in one Melodious river. I drift calmly Between its banks. Sweet vale of Avoca, She is still young, I a child, and our two Hearts like thy waters are mingled in peace. Dublin tradesman's son, Byron's friend, the pet of Whig drawing-rooms. Feted everywhere Everywhere at home, He sang of exile. And death, tailoring Country airs to a Modish elegance. Let the waters jig In a light glitter, So the source run full. -- C. Day-Lewis, Anglo-Irish Poet Laureate of England

This is amazing stuff, Pat. I had no idea all these kinds of documents exist. Many thanks to you and your volunteers. - Jerry Kelly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Connors" <nymets11@pacbell.net> To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 9:50 AM Subject: [Irish-American] Albany Naturalizations on line > >From another list, with permission: > > Volunteer transcribers are hard at work on several > databases of Indexes to Declarations of Intent for New > York. This is another free database brought to you by Olive > Tree Genealogy on its sister site NaturalizationRecords.com > > Today I added several more surname pages to the existing > project online at http://naturalizationrecords.com/ > > A big thank you goes to volunteers Donna Jackson (finished > Books 2 & 3), Robin Tweed (working on Books 4-6), Peggy > Broughton and Dave Cazalet (working on Books 7 & 8), and > Karen Cundari (working on Books 9-12). Laura Freeman and I > are proof-reading the files as they are transcribed. > > Here is what is available, with a direct URL to get to each > set of records. Please let each page load completely then > scroll down to view the names. These records are freely > available to everyone, and I hope you find an ancestor or > two > > --Declarations of Intent, New York 1827-1895, Justice's > Court, Albany, New York, Index to Book 2 & 3 (1832-1836) > > http://naturalizationrecords.com/usa/nyintent_a1833.shtml > (Complete! All surnames online) > > --Declarations of Intent, New York 1827-1895, Justice's > Court, Albany, New York, Index to Book 4, 5 & 6 (1837-1843) > http://naturalizationrecords.com/usa/nyintentbk4-6_a.shtml > (Surnames A, C online so far) > > --Declarations of Intent, New York 1827-1895, Justice's > Court, Albany, New York, Index to Book 7 & 8 (1843-1850) > > http://naturalizationrecords.com/usa/nyintentbk7-8_v.shtml > (Surnames V, W, Y, Z online so far) > > --Declarations of Intent, New York 1827-1895, Justice's > Court, Albany, New York, Index to Books 9-12 (1850-1856) > > http://naturalizationrecords.com/usa/intent1850-56a.shtml > (Surnames A, B online so far) > > *NOTE: This is not the same database for Naturalization > Records indexes 1821-1991 online at AlbanyCounty.com)* > > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > Professional Genealogy Research > All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002 > > > > > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. >

Thank you Jerry, you are very kind. I will have to mull this over for a time. Dr. Jim California Jerry Kelly wrote: > Hello Jim, > > The Iústás family is an important Norman Irish family who came into Ireland at the time of the Cambro-Norman invasion. They obtained large estates in Kildare and Carlow, went Gaelic, and with the Ó Broin (O'Byrnes) and Ó Tuathail (O'Tooles) delivered the crushing defeat of the English at Glenmalure in 1580. When that rising failed, Séamus Iústás, Viscount Baltinglas, was forced to flee to Spain. Much of your family's estates were confiscated and many of your kinsmen were put to death. The confiscations and attainders in rebellion of the 17th century completed the dispossession of the family. > > Hope that's helpful, > Jerry Kelly > NA GAEIL MAGAZINE > (coming soon to an internet near you) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dr. James J. Kent" <kentele@earthlink.net> > To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 2:43 PM > Subject: Re: [Irish-American] Ó BRIAIN / O'BRIEN > > > Hi Jerry , > > Isn't Eustace in there some where? If so where? > > Dr. Jim > > > > Jerry Kelly wrote: > > > > > Hi Charlene, > > > > > > I forgot about O'Brien. Your family descends from Brian Boramha (Brian > Ború), Ard-Rí na hÉireann (High King of Ireland) who spent a lifetime > fighting the Vikings in Ireland and finally broke their power in Ireland > forever at the Battle of Clontarf in 1014, at which battle he was killed. > The tribal genealogy of the family is as follows: > > > > > > Ó Briain ('Grandson of Briain'), of the > > > Muintir Chinnéidigh, of the > > > Clann Mhathghamhna, of the > > > Uí Thairdealbhaigh (royal dynasty of the Dál gCais), of the > > > Uí Bhloid, of the > > > Dál gCais ('Share of Cas'), of the > > > Déisi Tuaiscirt ('Northern Déisi'), of the > > > Déisi Iartharach ('Western Déisi'), of the > > > Déisi Mhumhan ('Déisi of Munster'), of the > > > Déisi ('Vassalry'), of the > > > Érainn > > > > > > The Déisi helped the Eoghanacht in the Eoghanacht conquest of Munster, > variously dated to the 3rd to 5th century A.D. In reward for Déisi help, > the Eoghanacht granted 'sword-land' to the Déisi across the Shannon in what > is now Clare. (Very generous of the Eoghanacht, seeing as how they didn't > actually own Clare.) A group of the Déisi went there, becoming the Northern > Déisi or Dál gCais, and warred with Meg's ancestors (the Corcu Baiscinn) and > the other tribes of the area for control. By about the 7th century, the Dál > gCais had taken a good chunk of Clare but the Corcu Baiscinn held on to > where they still are today (west Clare). And once the Vikings showed up and > founded the city of Limerick, the Dál gCais had plenty to keep them busy. > > > > > > Some scholars count the Érainn as the 2nd major Celtic population group > or Celtic invasion of Ireland, dating their rise or invasion to the 5th to > 3rd centuries B.C. > > > > > > The overall ancestor-god of the Érainn or Íarna was Ér or Íar (variant > spellings of the same name). The name Érainn or Íarna itself means > 'Descendants of Ér/Íar'. Their ancestor-goddess was Éire, after whom > Ireland was named. But the special and particular ancestor-god of the Déisi > was Oengus. > > > > > > Hope that helps, > > > Jerry Kelly > > > NA GAEIL MAGAZINE > > > (coming soon to an internet near you) > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Charlene Szymusiak" <char.szy@verizon.net> > > > To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 12:27 AM > > > Subject: [Irish-American] Mckroskey, Tapley as Irish surnames? > > > > > > > This is my first post to this list. My Irish roots are O'BRIEN on two > > > sides, and two surnames that I have been told were Irish: TAPLEY, and > now a > > > new name: McKROSKEY. > > > > > > > > My aunt remembers her grandparents were MCKROSKEY (spelled ???). She > had a > > > newspaper clipping with pictures of her 2nd birthday with her > grandparents. > > > Unfortunately Hurricane Andrew destroyed her files. The name sounds a > bit > > > off. Can anyone suggest similar names for me to investigate? > > > > > > > > Charlene > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > > > > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > > > > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > > > > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. > > > > > > > > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > > > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > > > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > > > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. > > > > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. > > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc.

> > >Many thanks to you and your volunteers > Oh, Jerry, I didn't do these, I was just sharing information. I just put some on line for Oneida Co NY and have transcribe many for Rensselaer Co, but not Albany. The OiveTree website is not mine but Lorrine has had it for many years. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com Professional Genealogy Research All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

> > >This is one you sent to us last week.... > Thanks. Would you believe I posted the brown bread message on the Ireland list, you answered it on the Irish American list and I found the recipe I wanted on my own website under th NY Irish mailing list's recipes! The recipe I used last year included rolled oats and wheat germ and was delicious and very much like what you get in Ireland which has gotta be the best bread I have ever had. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com Professional Genealogy Research All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

> > > I have no clue where to begin!! > You start with yourself, go backwards. This is the basic rule for family research. As you go backward, you collect certificates (birth, marriage, death), church records, census data. These are source documents that prove your lineage. When you get to ancestors who were born in countries other than the USA, then you check naturalization records and passenger records (if you still don't have area in old country from certs). Obituaries, gravestones, military records, court documents etc are other items that might give up the place of birth. Good luck. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com Professional Genealogy Research All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

If you are looking for O'Connor/Connors (all spellings), Flynn and/or Campbells, I have posted all their declarations of intention from Oneida County from 1840-1860 on my website. Go to url below my name, under Surnames, you will find links for the three surnames. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com Professional Genealogy Research All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

Thanks so much Jerry. Didn't know about Sean's grandfather. I have no idea where my Connery's are from in Ireland so I guess Munster is a good place to start! BTW, is there a particular name for the "accent" marks? I can't remember ever hearing what they're called and never really thought about it until now. Thanks again! Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Kelly" <jerrykelly@att.net> To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 4:29 AM Subject: Re: [Irish-American] Connery - Is it really Irish > Hi Jackie, > > Connery is indeed an Irish name. Seán Connery's grandfather was an Ó Conaire. Look for the name in Munster. Hope that's helpful. And I hope to get back on the flashcards this weekend. Many thanks for your encouragement. - Jerry Kelly > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "George & Jackie" <jafm1@patmedia.net> > To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 10:36 PM > Subject: [Irish-American] Connery - Is it really Irish > > > > This is for Jerry Kelly - > > > > Is Connery an Irish name or does it have roots in Scotland. I found a > music CD performed by a group called The Connery's who were from Ireland. > Then there's the actor, Sean, from Scotland. Although there are many > Connery's, you don't find too many in the phone book in most areas. One > particular problem I have, and the rest of my family too, is that most > people misspell it and mispronounce it. Mostly because they don't pay > attention. Well, that's another story. > > > > Thanks Jerry if you have any info! By the way, saw your "flash cards". > Good luck with it, I'd be interested in seeing more! > > > > Jackie > > > > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. > > > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. >

Hello JD, I should be able to take a shot at this tomorrow. - Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "JD" <jedollard@comcast.net> To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [Irish-American] Re: IRISH-AMERICAN-D Digest V04 #75 > Hello Mr. Jerry Kelly, > > I have been away for a while but it looks like your placing Irish names to locations, could I ask for information on three, > > O'Leary > Dollard > Quinn > > With thanks and happy St. Paddy's day!! jd > > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. >

Hi Jackie, Connery is indeed an Irish name. Seán Connery's grandfather was an Ó Conaire. Look for the name in Munster. Hope that's helpful. And I hope to get back on the flashcards this weekend. Many thanks for your encouragement. - Jerry Kelly ----- Original Message ----- From: "George & Jackie" <jafm1@patmedia.net> To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 10:36 PM Subject: [Irish-American] Connery - Is it really Irish > This is for Jerry Kelly - > > Is Connery an Irish name or does it have roots in Scotland. I found a music CD performed by a group called The Connery's who were from Ireland. Then there's the actor, Sean, from Scotland. Although there are many Connery's, you don't find too many in the phone book in most areas. One particular problem I have, and the rest of my family too, is that most people misspell it and mispronounce it. Mostly because they don't pay attention. Well, that's another story. > > Thanks Jerry if you have any info! By the way, saw your "flash cards". Good luck with it, I'd be interested in seeing more! > > Jackie > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. >

Hello Jim, The Iústás family is an important Norman Irish family who came into Ireland at the time of the Cambro-Norman invasion. They obtained large estates in Kildare and Carlow, went Gaelic, and with the Ó Broin (O'Byrnes) and Ó Tuathail (O'Tooles) delivered the crushing defeat of the English at Glenmalure in 1580. When that rising failed, Séamus Iústás, Viscount Baltinglas, was forced to flee to Spain. Much of your family's estates were confiscated and many of your kinsmen were put to death. The confiscations and attainders in rebellion of the 17th century completed the dispossession of the family. Hope that's helpful, Jerry Kelly NA GAEIL MAGAZINE (coming soon to an internet near you) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. James J. Kent" <kentele@earthlink.net> To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [Irish-American] Ó BRIAIN / O'BRIEN > Hi Jerry , > Isn't Eustace in there some where? If so where? > Dr. Jim > > Jerry Kelly wrote: > > > Hi Charlene, > > > > I forgot about O'Brien. Your family descends from Brian Boramha (Brian Ború), Ard-Rí na hÉireann (High King of Ireland) who spent a lifetime fighting the Vikings in Ireland and finally broke their power in Ireland forever at the Battle of Clontarf in 1014, at which battle he was killed. The tribal genealogy of the family is as follows: > > > > Ó Briain ('Grandson of Briain'), of the > > Muintir Chinnéidigh, of the > > Clann Mhathghamhna, of the > > Uí Thairdealbhaigh (royal dynasty of the Dál gCais), of the > > Uí Bhloid, of the > > Dál gCais ('Share of Cas'), of the > > Déisi Tuaiscirt ('Northern Déisi'), of the > > Déisi Iartharach ('Western Déisi'), of the > > Déisi Mhumhan ('Déisi of Munster'), of the > > Déisi ('Vassalry'), of the > > Érainn > > > > The Déisi helped the Eoghanacht in the Eoghanacht conquest of Munster, variously dated to the 3rd to 5th century A.D. In reward for Déisi help, the Eoghanacht granted 'sword-land' to the Déisi across the Shannon in what is now Clare. (Very generous of the Eoghanacht, seeing as how they didn't actually own Clare.) A group of the Déisi went there, becoming the Northern Déisi or Dál gCais, and warred with Meg's ancestors (the Corcu Baiscinn) and the other tribes of the area for control. By about the 7th century, the Dál gCais had taken a good chunk of Clare but the Corcu Baiscinn held on to where they still are today (west Clare). And once the Vikings showed up and founded the city of Limerick, the Dál gCais had plenty to keep them busy. > > > > Some scholars count the Érainn as the 2nd major Celtic population group or Celtic invasion of Ireland, dating their rise or invasion to the 5th to 3rd centuries B.C. > > > > The overall ancestor-god of the Érainn or Íarna was Ér or Íar (variant spellings of the same name). The name Érainn or Íarna itself means 'Descendants of Ér/Íar'. Their ancestor-goddess was Éire, after whom Ireland was named. But the special and particular ancestor-god of the Déisi was Oengus. > > > > Hope that helps, > > Jerry Kelly > > NA GAEIL MAGAZINE > > (coming soon to an internet near you) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Charlene Szymusiak" <char.szy@verizon.net> > > To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 12:27 AM > > Subject: [Irish-American] Mckroskey, Tapley as Irish surnames? > > > > > This is my first post to this list. My Irish roots are O'BRIEN on two > > sides, and two surnames that I have been told were Irish: TAPLEY, and now a > > new name: McKROSKEY. > > > > > > My aunt remembers her grandparents were MCKROSKEY (spelled ???). She had a > > newspaper clipping with pictures of her 2nd birthday with her grandparents. > > Unfortunately Hurricane Andrew destroyed her files. The name sounds a bit > > off. Can anyone suggest similar names for me to investigate? > > > > > > Charlene > > > > > > > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > > > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > > > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > > > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. > > > > > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. >