> > >What is the Roll Call? > It is when you send a message to a list dedicated to one of your ancestors. You give their surname and relevant data, such as when and where they were born and died, who they married and their children....hopefully, someone will see what you have written and make a connection. Yesterday, I was contacted by a 3rd cousin I have never met or knew about who saw a post I made to the Flynn Rootsweb message boards in 2000, so you just never know when someone will find you. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA, list admin http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

I have started putting the birth records for Kilkeel on my website, these will be added to every day, the Bryansford birth records are completed on the website. Raymond http://www.raymondscountydownwebsite.com

HUGE 20-year brick wall: LABAN KELLEY b. 1797 NC, d July 25, 1875 Waresville, Uvalde County, TX m. Tirzah Christian 1818 Perry County, TN. Children: Jesse George KELLEY Elijah Leek KELLEY Laban Christopher KELLEY Henry KELLEY Nancy Teresa KELLEY Joseph Alexander KELLEY John Jackson KELLEY Caroline KELLEY Jesse George is a name from Tirzah's family, perhaps some of the other names might be paternal family names. If anyone has any information on KELLEY/KELLY families with these given names in or around North Carolina, I would appreciate hearing from you. I am at a loss as to being able to find Laban's parents/siblings. Janet Graham Theberge

While usually the list admin calls roll calls, I don't have problem with this if you want to start one but I ask that you put the surname in the subject, with or without 'roll call'. Another tip...if your roll call is too short, then it will be hard to connect, but if it is too long, it won't get read, so find that middle ground. Maybe if you don't know where to go next, you might ask and others can help. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA, list admin http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

Still seeking EUGENE CALLAGHAN MCCARTHY b 1858 RC. Carpenter. Emigrated to USA c 1885/95 from Limerick City. Ted

THE TROUT Flat on the bank I parted Rushes to ease my hands In the water without a ripple And tilt them slowly downstream To where he lay, light as a leaf, In his fluid sensual dream. Bodiless lord of creation I hung briefly above him Savouring my own absence Senses expanding in the slow Motion, the photographic calm That grows before action. As the curve of my hands Swung under his body He surged, with visible pleasure. I was so preternaturally close I could count every stipple But still cast no shadow, until The two palms crossed in a cage Under the lightly pulsing gills. Then (entering my own enlarged Shape, which rode on the water) I gripped. To this day I can Taste his terror on my hands. -- John Montague

I have updated the Co Limerick Surname registries on my website. Please check you submission for accuracy. You can find them at the URL below my name. At the top of my home page, you will find drop down menus, under Ireland, click on County Limerick. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

Thanks for the info, Pat. I'm going to be in DC the week after Easter and plan to go to the NA with my hubby. Nora Hopkins FitzGerald Searching in Chicago for Fahey/Hogan/Keane/Hopkins Hopkins - Castlebar, Co. Mayo/New York City FitzGerald/O'Regan - County Limerick/County Cork/Queens, NYC Searching in County Down for Grant/McManus/Morgan/Woods >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >I know this has been addressed before but I never paid attention. Are the >Boston passenger lists available for 1923 in the DC National archives? > This is a good time to remind everyone of the Irish American Mailing List webpage which has a whole page dedicated to passenger lists links and another for lookups. NARA has these for Boston Arrivals" Book Indexes to Boston Passenger Lists, 1899--1940. T790. 107 rolls. <http://www.archives.gov/publications/microfilm_catalogs/immigrant/microf= ilm_107_rolls_t790.html> There are no book indexes for 1901. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at Boston, MA, 1891--1943. T843.454 rolls. <http://www.archives.gov/publications/microfilm_catalogs/immigrant/microfilm_4 54_rolls_t843.html> (A complete list of rolls has been added.) These records were filmed by the Immigration and Naturalization Service as they appeared in volumes. The volumes do not necessarily end on December 31 of the year. There may be two volumes bearing the same date span. LDS films #for 1923 passenger lists: 1404400 to 1404413 (14 films) Ancestry.com is now uploading passenger lists. I believe they have most of NY on line, you might check them for Boston. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

I have updated both the Irish American mailing list website and the surname registries connected to this list. Please check your entries for accuracy. You can access our website by going to the URL below my name. At the top of my homepage, you will find drop down menus, under Mailing Lists, click on Irish American. You will the find links to the surname registries near the bottom of our website, under Irish-American Links. Remember if you have an entry and your email address has changed, fill out one of the forms you find on these pages and put 'change' near your new email address, plus the surname(s) where it needs to be changed. Same goes for any field where your info has changed, just put in a new form. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

> > >I know this has been addressed before but I never paid attention. Are the >Boston passenger lists available for 1923 in the DC National archives? > This is a good time to remind everyone of the Irish American Mailing List webpage which has a whole page dedicated to passenger lists links and another for lookups. NARA has these for Boston Arrivals" • Book Indexes to Boston Passenger Lists, 1899--1940. T790. 107 rolls. <http://www.archives.gov/publications/microfilm_catalogs/immigrant/microfilm_107_rolls_t790.html> There are no book indexes for 1901. • Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at Boston, MA, 1891--1943. T843. 454 rolls. <http://www.archives.gov/publications/microfilm_catalogs/immigrant/microfilm_454_rolls_t843.html> (A complete list of rolls has been added.) These records were filmed by the Immigration and Naturalization Service as they appeared in volumes. The volumes do not necessarily end on December 31 of the year. There may be two volumes bearing the same date span. LDS films #for 1923 passenger lists: 1404400 to 1404413 (14 films) Ancestry.com is now uploading passenger lists. I believe they have most of NY on line, you might check them for Boston. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

Hello Jean - that was beautiful! That hit a note with me, we have had many homes connected to my family (grandparents, aunts & uncles) that have either been sold or torn down for progress as the town I grew up in rapdily expands into a city. Thanks for sharing it with us. Meg Mulvey ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Hi listers, I know this has been addressed before but I never paid attention. Are the Boston passenger lists available for 1923 in the DC National archives? My father came to the USA in 1923 but his name was crossed out on the Ellis Island passenger lists for New York. He told me he disembarked in Boston but was bussed to NYC where he was processed. Are there separate lists for those who disembarked in Boston? Thanks. Nora Hopkins FitzGerald Hopkins - Castlebar, Co. Mayo/New York City FitzGerald/O'Regan - County Limerick/County Cork/Queens, NYC

I have updated the Ireland Book Discussion Mailing List website which includes Ireland Parish History Books, Genealogy Books, History Books, Local History Books and other categories of Ireland Books, including new ones for Archaeology and Emigration. Many books have been added and most have lookup volunteers. You can access the webpages at the URL below my name, under Ireland (drop down menu at top of home page) click on Ireland Books under Ireland. You will find the links to the various book webpages at the bottom of the Ireland Book Discussion Mailing List webpage under 'Ireland Book Webpages'. If you made any submissions last month, please check for accuracy. If you submitted a book and want to change submission (email address, lookup volunteer, etc), fill out another form and put 'change' in the field where you want the change. If anyone has or knows of books not listed, you can fill out a convenient form on each of the book list webpages and I update the website at the beginning of each month. Thanks to everyone for making these webpages a very good resource for all those doing Ireland research and a very busy place on the internet. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

THE HOME PLACE A little west along the road, on higher ground Beyond the Big Blue River, you can see the house And barns cut farmer-spare against the cobalt sky, A mile away across the level stand of beans. A century hasn't changed the home place much at all. The windows still throw back the light, defiant as A young girl's eyes when there's a secret to be kept, Here she was born, on this two hundred acre range, Where first her grandfather farmed and now her son, Where planting could be dry and easy; calving, wet And hard. How many suppers had she warmed again Because machinery quit out in the field before The work was done? Perhaps the peaceful kitchen knows The hunger laid to rest within its walls, all built, She says, her eyebrows up, with timbers taken when They tore the casket factory down. Folks made do then. She sold the house some years ago, but kept the land Because one doesn't trade her soul. Now living in The neighbouring woods behind, she's near enogh to hear The massive iron bell out on the shed. How rare it is To find a life so rooted to a single place, Just like the rugged elm beside the house today, Surviving prairie wind and summer lightning. She's Among the few whose vision of the world improves By standing still, by watching every harvest come. And if, in leaner years, she walked these rooms at night To battle with her ghosts, she must have cast them out. Her blessing shines. This is a house that's fit for life. -- With permission of author, Thomas Alan ORR, from "Hammers in the Fog," Restoration Press, Indianapolis, IN (1995). Tom's Scotch-Irish ancestors have a connection to No. Ireland and to Orrs Island, Casco Bay, off the coast of ME

Hi Jean, "Och" is an English phonetic attempt at the Irish word "Ach" which literally means "But". Example - "Ach bhí tú ansin freisin!" = "But you were there too!" Usage is all over Ireland, all time periods, including right now in dramatically increasing numbers. My poor attempt at phonetics for it would be AHKH. Hope that's helpful, Jerry Kelly NA GAEIL MAGAZINE (coming soon to an internet near you) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Rice" <jeanrice@cet.com> To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 4:43 PM Subject: [Irish-American] Question - "Och" - Irish Expression???? > Hi Listers -- I find "Och" in Irish poety and literature - about a million of them in Frank McCourt's biography "Angela Ashes" alone! They invariably begin a sentence. Have been wondering for some time if it is an Irish way of emphatically saying "Oh," or not? Specific to a particular section of Ireland or time period? Anyone with relatives that began sentences in this way? How did it actually sound? Jean, Spokane, WA. > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. >

Hi Listers -- I find "Och" in Irish poety and literature - about a million of them in Frank McCourt's biography "Angela Ashes" alone! They invariably begin a sentence. Have been wondering for some time if it is an Irish way of emphatically saying "Oh," or not? Specific to a particular section of Ireland or time period? Anyone with relatives that began sentences in this way? How did it actually sound? Jean, Spokane, WA.

A PENTINENT Arrah Nellie, don't look like a thundercloud, darlingt; What harm if I did stale a kiss from your lips? No sinsible bee meets a smiling young rose, sure, But stops, the shy thafe, and a honey drop sips. And rose of the warruld, spake aisy now, ain't I More sinsible far than a vagabond bee! And how could I see the swate kiss that was lying There on your red lips, as though waiting for me, And not take it, darlingt? Och, Nellie give o'er! Faith, I'm awfully sorry -- I didn't take more. 'Twas your fault, intirely. Why did you smile at me? So great a temptation no man could resist, For your laughing blue eyes, and your cheek wid a dimple And your dilicate mouth said, "We're here to be kissed." And could I be draming they didn't spake truth, dear, Sure beautiful features like thim niver lie' If they do, you should hide thim and not be desaving Such an innocent, trusting young fellow as I. Are you frowning still, darlint? Och, Nellie give o'er; Don't I tell you I'm sorry -- I didn't take more. -- Anon., "One Hundred Choice Selections for Readings and Recitations," No. 37, The Penn Publishing Company, Philadelphia 1903.

Julia, I have Kirbys from Limerick. At this point I'm not sure from which townland or parish. They came over approx 1849-1850 to Hopkinton MA and then on to Australia according to a great aunt of mine. They came back to Massachusetts - Maurice Kirby and his wife Margaret (Burke). Maurice had two brothers David & Edward and they may have stayed in Australia. If you want to exchange information you can contact me off list. Meg Mulvey ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

SNIPPET: One of the most remarkable elections in the history of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts was held in November 1854 -- see below. The great wave of Famine-inspired immigration was over, but Boston, Lowell and other Massachusetts cities were now inudated with Irish immigrants. Boston had tried particularly hard to resist the tide, imploring the state government to spend less money on public schools and other services that immigrants used. The city had imposed a head tax on immigrants. Nothing worked. In 1847 alone, at least 30,000 immigrants poured into Boston, and of course, 1847 was not nearly the end of the Famine. Young Patrick KENNEDY, leaving a starving Ireland in 1849, met his wife-to-be, Bridget MURPHY, on an immigrant ship, the "Washington Irving." Both were from Co. Wexford - Patrick, at least, from Dunganstown. Though the potato blight had been less severe in the SE corner of Ireland where the KENNEDY family lived, they were losing their struggle to maintain their whitewashed cottage and their 25 acres. Soon after arriving in America Patrick and Bridget married and set up their household in the slums of an Irish ghetto of East Boston, a place where, it was said, children were born to die. Horribly, most did - 60% in Boston did not live to see their sixth birthday, and adults fared little better, for the average Famine immigrant lived no longer than 4-5 years after stepping foot on American soil. The Irish lived in shanties and basements, breeding grounds of disease and despair. Within months of their arrival, a cholera epidemic swept through the Irish slums of Boston, killing more than 500 immigrants and their children. Conditions in East Boston, were hardly unique. The vast majority of the Irish had settled in the great cities of the American Northeast, spurning the farming life that had cruelly betrayed them in Ireland, living in the cheapest available lodging. By the time the KENNEDYs started their family in East Boston, their Yankee neighbors were in an uproar Nothing had been done, and so voters went to the polls in 1854 and chose candidates who knew nothing, or at least made that dubious claim. The Know-Nothing (American party) movement in its various forms was among the most successful third parties in American history. An outgrowth of a network of local organizations with names like the Order of The Star Spangled Banner, the Black Snakes, the Rip Saws, the Know-Nothings captured local offices through New England, the mid-Atlantic, the South, and the West in the 1850s. Their meetings were held secretly, and the measures they promoted were never discussed openly. When anyone who was not a party member asked a Know-Nothing any question regarding his policies, the reply was, "I don't know." Constant repetition of this phrase gave the party its popular name. While the movement despised blacks and foreigners in general, it's! specific complaints during and after the Famine immigration was with Catholics. A newspaper mocked the movement by printing a Know-Nothing menu consisting of "Jesuit soup, boiled priest and fried nuns." While it lent itself to mockery, the Know-Nothing movement was a powerful force in pre-Civil War politics. Its most spectacular success came in 1854 in Massachusetts, which elected Know-Nothings into every statewide office, including governor. Every state senator was a Know-Nothing and of the 378 members of the state House of Representatives, 376 were Know-Nothings. The vast majority were amateur politicians who truly knew nothing of government and politics; their field of expertise was the discontent of their fellow native-born Americans. True to their word, they passed two pieces of anti-immigrant legislation; one barring naturalized citizens from voting until they had lived in the United States for 21 years! The other prohibited immigrants, even those who became citizens, from holding elective office in Massachusetts. Demonstrating that they knew "something," the legislators voted themselves a pay raise before adjourning! There is no known record of Patrick KENNEDY's thoughts on the movement; very likely he was too busy trying to keep his wife and children fed, clothed, and safe in an atmosphere that was the ruin of many a family. His arrival in Boston is well chronicled, as is the later family history and the celebrated accession of his great-grandson, John F. KENNEDY, the 35th President of the United States. In the state elections of 1854, the Know-Nothings carried Massachusetts, polled large votes in NY and PA, and gained a considerable following in the South. The Know-Nothings split over the slavery question in the election of 1856, and the party rapidly disappeared. -- Excerpts, "World Book Encyclopedia" & "The Irish In America."

Correction -- The name of the author of "The Famine Ships" (1997/Henry Holt) is Edward LAXTON.