I have completed transcribing the Irish born from the LDS film #1304661 which cover Alien Declarations of Intention filed in Rensselaer County 1859-1868. My latest upload was for another 903 names filed July to Dec 1868. The aliens resided from all of the Rensselaer county area including many from Albany, Warren, Washington and Saratoga counties and from bordering Massachusetts state. You can access the databases at the Rensselaer County website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrenss2/ Under the drop down menu at the top of the home page, under Genealogy, click on Naturalization/Citizenship. You can also access the records from my own website, url is under my name. In the coming month, I plan to put all the records from the film in one database to make it easier for searching your names. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

Hi Mary, Your surname is properly Ó Fallamhain ('Grandson of Ruler') or in your case Ní Fhallamhain ('Grand-daughter of Ruler'). Gaelic Irish surnames are themselves miniature genealogies so the surname quite correctly varies by gender. There are two distinct, unrelated families of this name. One is way off in Offaly and the other is a branch of the Uí Mhaine ('Descendants of Maine', their ancestor-god) around Athlone, so you've definitely zeroed in on your tribal territory. More specifically, your family were the lords of Clann Uadach ('Children of Uada') and held the parishes of Camma and Dysert in the barony of Athlone. In 1585, "The Ó Fallamhain" (the elected rí or king of your family, who the English would call a 'chief') was based in his castle at Milltown in the parish of Dysart. When Woulfe was writing Sloinnte Gaedheal 7 Gall (Surnames of the Gaeil and the Gaill) around 1923, he reported that the ruins of that castle were still there. They may still be there. The Uí Mhaine are already prominent in 5th-7th century records at which point they're given a false genealogy as Airghialla ('Givers of Hostages'), a reference to their alliance with the Uí Néill ('Descendants of Niall' of the Nine Hostages) symbolized and ceremoniously put into effect by the giving of princes and princesses as hostages to the Uí Néill kings. The purpose of the false genealogy was to cement alliance with the Uí Néill who are creating and claiming the concept of the High-Kingship of all Ireland at the time. Nevertheless, the older genealogies indicate that the Uí Mhaine on the west side of the Shannon and the Cinéal Mhaine on the east side of the Shannon were once a greater Maine kingdom who probably descended from the Tuath Taíden (later a subject-people of the Uí Mhaine) who in turn were a branch of the Domnann. The Domnann (the western extension of the Laighin) and their sub-tribes held what is now called Connacht before my ancestors the Connachta ('Des! cendants of Conn', our particular ancestor-god) conquered that fifth of Ireland sometime about the 3rd to 4th centuries A.D. Before that fifth was called Connachta it was called Fir nÓl nÉcmacht, the name of another Domnann tribe probably containing the name of their own particular ancestor-god (Écmacht?). However, even under the Connachta, the Uí Mhaine maintained an important kingdom roughly covering northeastern Galway and southern Roscommon until the 16th century. Hope that's helpful, Jerry Kelly NA GAEIL MAGAZINE (coming soon and free to an internet near you) ----- Original Message ----- From: Mfallonr@aol.com To: jerrykelly@att.net Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 4:05 PM Subject: 3/26/2004 Jerry: I have read several of your postings and am fascinated by your fount of information about Irish names. Please, sir, the ones I most want to know about are Fallon, O'Dwyer/Dwyer, and Walsh (nearly hopeless, I am told , because it means a Welshman, of whom there are too many to sort out). I've studied the Fallon family enough to be fairly sure mine come from the area of Balinasloe, Ballina, Athlone. Family tradition says that Michael and several brothers were in trouble with the English, so their father sent them to America, literally to save their lives. My genealogy teachers tend to scoff at the story as being too common to be believed. His obituary places him in Co. Roscommon, and the O'Fallon country is in the area I described, so I can nearly place him, but still with no hope of finding an individual ancestor. I suppose that is too much to expect, in the circumstances. He married a Barrett and was related to a Dowd, who also married a Barrett, both names found in the same area, though by no means exclusively, and not of great significance because he surely must have married in America (possibly Canada), though I find no record of it or of his son's birth or baptism (in 1848) in the place named in his death certificate. In the "Presentments to the Assizes" I found Fallons in Roscommon constructing culverts (can't think of the proper word for them) on highways, and my Michael was a railroad bridge builder, but that is still only a hint. Such a fascinating game, but with some dead ends, I fear. Of the others, I know little, except that they were here before 1855, when Bridget (O)Dwyer married Richard Walsh, living in Livingston Co. NY, first son James, second, Michael, daughters, Margaret Ellen and Catharine. Enough, probably too much, but I'd be interested to hear any thoughts you may have on those names, please. Mary Fallon Richards

> > >Tucked away to the right of the F12 key on most keyboards is a key labelled >Print Screen (often has the even more archaic title Sys Rq on the key as well). > Many of us are aware of this option, but prefer to do the printing they once offered....it use to be that you could print just the Griffiths Valuation page without all the the graphics, etc. They had a special print button on the website...I think they removedthe print function to limit our access to the pages. Most subscription programs allow 'save image as' but not this particular program (Otherdays.com). They limited that option right from the beginning. Well, they lost my subscription money with their cheap ways. Does anyone here belong to Origins.com? If so, can you print or save images with that program? It would really be nice to be able to print or save clear images of my ancestors records.... -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

Hi all frustrated researchers who can't print what they can see. I do not wish to teach granny how to suck eggs but for what it is worth this is how I capture those nasty ephemera that escape the usual buttons. Tucked away to the right of the F12 key on most keyboards is a key labelled Print Screen (often has the even more archaic title Sys Rq on the key as well). Centre the image you want in ANY program and hit the Print Screen key. Open up any graphics program (Paint is free with all versions of Windows but limited). Paste the captured image then crop, rotate, filter, enhance etc to your heart's content. Print from your graphics program or drop the image into OCR for a stab at actual text to edit as you please. Cheers Rik White. Still seeking anything CROWDLE at all

Hi, WM - Well, the truth is I couldn't get into McCourt's second book, 'Tis, either, and will have to go back and "revisit" it. I only read bits and parts of it, though. Frank's "Angela's Ashes," in which he writes so poignantly about his experiences as a poor Catholic child growing up in 1930s/40s Limerick is a real gem. While recounting many humorous incidents in a wonderful "Irish" dialogue -- still, you can all but feel the fleas in the mattresses, the impoverished parents' despair when one child after another sickens and dies, the lack of warm clothing, proper shoes, father's alcoholism, relatives reluctance to share limited resources, the gnawing hunger, meals of bread and tea - as Frank says, "a solid and a liquid." Life was very serious business for the McCourts, for the most part. Young Frank hauled coal to help with family finances even though it triggered a chronic, painful eye inflammation. He was later able to get a job delivering mail before emigrating to the U.S.A. I was struck by the fact that children (although fiercely loved) didn't seem to have a "soft place to fall," lacked the emotional support they deserved - indeed some of the adults they came in contact with in the community were quite cruel. Frank's mother, Angela, was humiliated in her attempts to get assistance from charities, although occasionally a shopkeeper would take pity on the family. She did find work as a domestic off and on in the homes of those better off. Years later, Frank would remark how it hurt him to see Americans wasting so much food. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: <WMccorm348@aol.com> To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 5:29 PM Subject: Re: [Irish-American] Frank McCOURT's Limerick Memoir, "Angela's Ashes" (1996)... > I loved Angela's Ashes, but was very disappointed in the follow-up book Tis > which tells what happened when Frank McCourt came to America. That book did not > have the Joyce James lilt. What did you think of Tis? >

Thank You. Linda

I loved Angela's Ashes, but was very disappointed in the follow-up book Tis which tells what happened when Frank McCourt came to America. That book did not have the Joyce James lilt. What did you think of Tis?

Yes, the digestive crackers are more like our cookies, but not as sweet. They have as an ingredient - bicarbonate of soda, hence "digestive" crackers. I like them. Jacobs is a major brand of these. In the US they are available at some specialty stores, Irish, Scottish, English food stores. Maureen N.

I believe that they are what we would call cookies, probably very plain. Elizabeth

PLEASE what are digestive biscuits????

SNIPPET: Frank McCOURT was born in NY but when he was a small boy his parents took the family back to Ireland. Frank returned to America when he was 19 and for many years was an English teacher at Stuyvestant High School in NYC. Author Pete HAMILL had this to say about Frank McCOURT's 1996 Pulitzer prize-winning autobiography, 'Angela's Ashes' - "Frank McCourt has examined his ferocious childhood walked around it, relieved it, and with skill and care and generosity of heart, has transformed it into a triumphant work of art. This book will be read when all of us are gone." McCourt's memoir was #1 National Bestseller, winner of the National Book Critics Circle Award, 'Los Angeles Times" Book Award, and the ABBY Award. Mary GORDON wrote, "I was moved and dazzled by the somber and lively beauty of this book." Vanessa V. Friedman, "Entertainment Weekly," wrote" The power of this memoir is that it makes you believe the claim: that despite the rags and hunger and pain, lov! e and strength do come out of misery." Thomas CAHILL wrote, "Angela's Ashes is a chronicle of grown-ups at the mercy of life and children at the mercy of grown-ups, and it is such a marriage of pathos and humor that you never know whether to weep or roar - and find yourself doing both at once ... you will be made happy by some of the most truly marvelous writing you will ever encounter. McCourt deserves whatever glittery prizes are lying around ... and while you're at it pull him another Guinness!" Here are four excerpts: "Out in the Atlantic Ocean great sheets of rain gathered to drift slowly up the River Shannon and settle forever in Limerick. The rain dampened the city from the Feast of the Circumcision to the New Year's Eve. It created a cacophony of hacking coughs, bronchial rattles, asthmatic wheezes, consumptive croaks. It turned noses into fountains, lungs into bacterial sponges. It provoked cures galore; to ease the catarrh you boiled onions in milk blackened with pepper; for the congested passages you made a paste of boiled flour and nettles, wrapped it in a rag, and slapped it, sizzling, on the chest. From October to April the walls of Limerick glistened with the damp. Clothes never dried; tweed and woolen coats housed living things, sometimes sprouted mysterious vegetations ... The rain drove us into the church -- our refuge, or strength, or only dry place. At Mass, Benediction, novenas, we huddled in great damp clumps, dozing thought priest drone, while steam rose again fr! om our clothes to mingle with the sweetness of incense, flowers and candles. Limerick gained a reputation for piety, but we knew it was only the rain." "Mam is delighted I earned sixpence for reading to Mr. Timoney and what was it he wanted read, the 'Limerick Leader'? I tell her I had to read 'A Modest Proposal' from the back of 'Gulliver's Travels' and she says, That's all right, 'tis only a children's book. You'd expect him to want something strange for he's a little off in the head after years in the sun in the English army in India and they say he was married to one of them Indian women and she was accidentally shot by a soldier during some class of a disturbance. That's the kind of thing that would drive you to children's books. She knows this Mrs. Minihan who lives next door to Mr. Timoney and used to clean house but couldn't stand it anymore the way he laughed at the Catholic Church and said one man's sin was another man's romp ... The next Friday Declan Collopy from the Confraternity sees me on the street delivering the papers with my uncle Pat Sheehan. Frankie McCourt, what are you doin' with Ab Sheehan? He's my uncle. Your're supposed to be at the Confraternity. I'm working, Declan. You're not supposed to be working. You're not even ten and you're destroyin' the perfect attendance in our section. If you're not there next Friday I'll give you a good thump in the gob, do you hear me? Uncle Pat says, Go 'way, go 'way, or I'll walk on you .... He pushes Uncle Pat on the shoulder and knocks him back against the wall. I drop the papers and run at him but he steps aside and punches me on the back of the neck and my forehead is rammed into the wall and it puts me in such a rage I can't see him anymore. I go at him with arms and legs and if I could tear his face off with my teeth I would but he has long arms like a gorilla and he just keeps pushing me away so that I can't touch him. Uncle Pat says,! You shouldn't be fightin' like that an' you dropped all me papers an' some o' them is wet an' how am I supposed to sell wet papers . And I wanted jump on him too and hit him for talking about papers after I stood up to Declan Collopy. At the end of the night he gives me three chips from his bag and sixpence instead of threepence. He complains it's too much money and it's all my mother's fault for going on to Grandma about the low pay. Mam is delighted I'm getting sixpence on Fridays from Uncle Pat and sixpence on Saturday's from Mr. Timoney. A shilling a week makes a big difference and she gives me tuppence to see the Dead End Kids at the Lyric after I'm finished the reading." "On Sunday mornings in Limerick I watch them go to church, the Protestants, and I feel sorry for them, especially the girls, who are so lovely, they have such beautiful white teeth. I feel sorry for the beautiful Protestant girls, they're doomed. That's what the priests tell us. Outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation. Outside the Catholic Church there is nothing but doom. And I want to save them. Protestant girl, come with me to the True Church. You'll be saved and you won't have the doom. After Mass on Sunday I go with my friend Billy Campbell to watch them play croquet on the lovely lawn beside their church on Barrington Street. Croquet is a Protestant game. They hit the ball with the mallet, pock and pock again, and laugh. I wonder how they can laugh or don't they even know they're doomed? I feel sorry for them and I say, Billy, what's the use of playing croquet when you're doomed? He says, Frankie what's the use of not playing croquet when you're ! doomed?" "Paddy's uncle Peter, the one that was in India in the English army, they have a photo of him standing with a group of soldiers with their helmets and guns and bandoliers around their chest and there are dark men in uniform who are Indians and loyal to the King. Uncle Peter had a great time for himself in a place called Kashmir, which is lovelier than Killarney that they're always bragging about and singing ... The rain is clearing and there are birds honking over our heads. Paddy says they're ducks or geese or something on their way to Africa where it's nice and warm. The birds have more sense than the Irish. They come to the Shannon for their holidays and then go back to the warm places, maybe even India. He says he'll write me a letter when he's over there and I can come to India and have my own girl with a red dot. What's that dot for, Paddy? It shows they're high class, the quality. But, Paddy, would the quality in India talk to you if they knew you were from a! lane in Limerick and had no shoes?"

Name Address Court Date natz Vol Page Copy of record # Witness John Barret ---- Formerly of Queen of United Kingdom of Great britain & Ireland Superior Court NYC 3/25/1856 68 ---- 193 Charles William Keen 205 W. 39th St NY ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------- John Barrett occ carpenter 2nd Ave near 55th St NYC Formerly of Queen of United Kingdom of Great britain & Ireland Superior Court NYC 10/17/1860 114 ---- 179 George Stewart Yonkers NY occ painter ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------- John Barrett ---- Formerly of Queen of United Kingdom of Great britain & Ireland Superior Court NYC 10/27/1860 10 ---- 357 Peter P Barrett ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------- John Barrett ---- Formerly of Queen of United Kingdom of Great britain & Ireland Superior Court NYC 10/24/1857 5 ---- 530 John Morris Jr Court order not signed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------- John Barrett ---- Formerly of Queen of United Kingdom of Great britain & Ireland Superior Court NYC 9/22/1856 74 ---- 6 Cornelius Mc Gready Astoria NY ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------- John Barrett ---- Formerly of Queen of United Kingdom of Great britain & Ireland Superior Court NYC 10/23/1856 83 ---- 203 Richard Routh 520 9th St WmBurgh LI ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------- John Barrett ---- Formerly of Queen of United Kingdom of Great britain & Ireland Superior Court NYC 9/10/1856 21 ---- 175 Thomas Foley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------- John Barrett ---- Formerly of Queen of United Kingdom of Great britain & Ireland Superior Court NYC 8/9/1852 9 ---- 461 John Devanny ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------- John Barrett ---- Formerly of Queen of United Kingdom of Great britain & Ireland Superior Court NYC 10/13/1852 34 ---- 17 Edmund Barry 27 Mulberry St ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------- John Barrett ---- Formerly of Queen of United Kingdom of Great britain & Ireland Superior Court NYC 9/28/1852 30 ---- 119 Edmund Connor 257 madison St NY ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------- John Barrett NYC Formerly of Queen of United Kingdom of Great britain & Ireland Marine Court NYC 4/17/1843 22 ---- 109 James Hayes NYC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------- John Barrett NYC Formerly of Queen of United Kingdom of Great britain & Ireland Marine Court NYC 4/12/1842 20 ---- 424 Michael Murphy NYC I copied all info on cards, I have nothing further. Barbara : ) German: Bauer/Beare/Beimann/Beekman/Beuscher/Blankenmeyer/Castle/Decker/Englehard/t/He lmken Hohler/Hurrinus/Johnson/Keller/Kittelberger/Low/Miller/Muller/Ringeisann/Rollmann/Schneider/Soffel/Stratton/Wagner Irish: Barrett,/Burke/Byrne/Conway/Corrigan/Gallagher/Pascoe/Quinn Polish: Budarz/Romanski

Name Address Date natz Vol Page Copy of record # Witness John Barrett 1 MacDougal St NYC Common Pleas Court 10/22, 1860 241 ---- 225 George H. Rogers 233 Spring St NYC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------- John Barrett [my Sligo ggggfather] 119 Baxter St NYC Common Pleas Court 10/18/1859 219 ---- 63 James mcDonald 404 Greenwich St NYC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------- John Barrett NYC Common Pleas Court 10/16/1856 153 ---- 381 Michael Flenley 180 Elizabeth St NYC John Barrett 96 James St NYC Common Pleas Court 10/23/1854 130 ---- 144 William Barrett 96 James St NYC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------- John Barrett NYC Common Pleas Court 9/17/1840 5 ---- 94 Thomas Barrett NYC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------ John Barrett 10 Vander Water St. Common Pleas Court 10/18/1860 241 ---- 146 Michael Noonan 16 1/2 hamilton St NYC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------- John Barrett 472 4th St NYC Common Pleas Court 11/10/1857 182 ---- 288 Patrick O`Connor 71 Mulberry St. NYC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------- John Barrett 145 1st Ave NYC Common Pleas Court 5/25/1855 142 ---- 147 John Fox 241 Mulberry St NYC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------- John Barrett NYC Common Pleas Court 10/21/1853 121 ---- 225 William Barrett 41 st St between 9th & 10th Aves NYC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------- John Barrett NYC Common Pleas Court 11/5/1842 32 ---- 141 John Condron NYC I copied all info on cards, I have nothing further. Barbara : ) German: Bauer/Beare/Beimann/Beekman/Beuscher/Blankenmeyer/Castle/Decker/Englehard/t/He lmken Hohler/Hurrinus/Johnson/Keller/Kittelberger/Low/Miller/Muller/Ringeisann/Rollmann/Schneider/Soffel/Stratton/Wagner Irish: Barrett,/Burke/Byrne/Conway/Corrigan/Gallagher/Pascoe/Quinn Polish: Budarz/Romanski

> I'm planning a trip to Ireland in June for 3 weeks Here's a good Ireland travel list that I also admin...many helpful people on it, including some travel agents: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Eire_Travel/ -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

Evelyn, You may want to see the Dunbrody Famine ship replica located in New Ross, County Wexford. There is also the JFK Arboretum in Wexford. Waterford Crystal Factory has a very nice tour. Cashel and Cahir castles shouldn't be missed. Lismore has a nice heritage center. Skiberreen has an exhibit about the famine there. If you have ancestors from around there, they will try to find them on the computer for you if they are not too crowded. Cork City is great. You might not want to miss the Dingle Peninsula although it can get crowded at certain times. The drive from Cork City to the Dingle Peninsula is very interesting and beautiful as is just about anywhere in Ireland. Everyone has their favorites, I'm sure. We were there for three weeks (our first trip and with our 15 year old grandson) and that was just about a perfect amount of time to spend. We stayed in one bed & breakfast except for 4 nights (one near the Dingle Peninsula) and just did day trips. That way we did not have to pack and unpack all the time. That made our trip much easier. Have a great trip. We plan on going back next year with two of my sisters. Regards, Sandy -----Original Message----- From: Evelyn Bayna [mailto:ebayna@ucsd.edu] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 10:09 AM To: IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Irish-American] Lodging in Ireland Hi Everyone: I'm planning a trip to Ireland in June for 3 weeks with my family, husband, adult daughter and 10 year old son. We have reservations for the first three nights in Dublin and will then drive to Cork City for the 50th Clan Gathering of the O Mahony Society. After that we will just drive around Ireland, no set plans. Does anyone have any suggestions or recommendations of places to stay or sights that "must" be seen on a first trip to Ireland? We've gotten the Irish Tourist information and purchased Fodor's but I thought I would like to get some first hand information from this group. Thanks for any and all thoughts. Evelyn Fahey Bayna Hot San Diego, CA ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc.

Kylie, I have taken a course on line from an Australian Genealogist, and it was very helpful.. Don't have her name at hand.. Think it was through Ancestry.com. Send your request to some of the Irish sites on Rootsweb, they have many very knowledgeable people.. Here's two for starters... IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com Since I am first born American and I have many first cousins in Ireland, most of my finds on my ancestors have been through them, word of mouth and the ever wonderful sites on line.. People are just wonderful in helping and trying to help.. I wish I could give you more than that.. The very best of luck with your paper.. MaryPat Researching: Gibbons, Flanagan, Hughes, Murphy, O Hora/ O Hara, Gavin, Howley, Loftus

Well if you get to Ennis, you can stay at St. Anne's B & B, run by the Seamus Langan family. Its on the main highway from Shannon to Galway. They are a lovely couple, my husband and I have stayed there many times. Enjoy Mary Anne Berrigan Anderson VA

Hi Everyone: I'm planning a trip to Ireland in June for 3 weeks with my family, husband, adult daughter and 10 year old son. We have reservations for the first three nights in Dublin and will then drive to Cork City for the 50th Clan Gathering of the O Mahony Society. After that we will just drive around Ireland, no set plans. Does anyone have any suggestions or recommendations of places to stay or sights that "must" be seen on a first trip to Ireland? We've gotten the Irish Tourist information and purchased Fodor's but I thought I would like to get some first hand information from this group. Thanks for any and all thoughts. Evelyn Fahey Bayna Hot San Diego, CA

> > >He developed the site. He used Paint Shop Pro and some shareware to construct the Fottrell crest.(It is home made, not real) > Isn't it wonderful to have such talented children and to see them finally grow up and pay us back :-D Seriously, tell you son, I envy his talent. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

A very good point! We notice the problem to start to develop this year and the pattern seemed to start with new computer owners. Me included in this new computer mess as well. I will pass it back to home office that the older computers including dial up are also having problems printing. Respectfully, Kim S. Harrison Account Manager for Library Sales in Canada & US Otherdays.com PO Box 793 Farmington, MI 48332 Toll free (866) 471-1471 Fax: (248) 476-5899 E-mail: kharrison@otherdays.com Home page: www.otherdays.com