Jean;  Thank you for the description of the ship "Dromahair" and the village.   My grandfather was from there, Mullagh, and I have been told his mother Elizabeth Middleton was related to Yeats. I do know that Elizabeth Middleton was Yeats grandmother. I've been trying to find a connection, but so far have not been able to.  The poem, "The Lake of Innisfree" does offer a beautiful picture of the area.  Someday in Ireland to track my elusive family! AnneMarie Dunne George searching DUNNE, MCMANUS, leonard and gallagher in ireland

Hi listers, Thought I'd mention this about spelling a name and how it is pronounced. My husband was looking without success for a Kirk family who came from the Mitchelstown area of Cork. When we were in Cork last year, we went to the Mallow District office hoping to find this family but couldn't find the Kirk family. The woman there even took out the original books to look at but to no avail. We couldn't understand why we couldn't find them. A few weeks ago we were at our local LDS Family History Center when my husband called me to his viewer. He was looking for another family in the Mitchelstown area when he noticed the entry above the one he was looking at. It was the marriage record of William Quirk and Johanna Coughlan. We felt it was the one he was looking for, for over three years and thought the family changed its name before it came to the US. It wasn't until we were speaking to William and Johanna's granddaughter that I remembered something from Dublin. Some of streets along the River Liffey are named Wood Quay, Essex Quay, Welleton Quay, etc. When I pronounced it incorrectly, I was told Quay is pronounced KEY. So it would seem that Qu is pronounced as a K not as a Q. No wonder we couldn't find Kirk. Nora Hopkins FitzGerald Hopkins - Castlebar, Co. Mayo/New York City FitzGerald/O'Regan - County Limerick/County Cork/Queens, NYC Fahey/Hogan/Keane/Hopkins Castlebar, Co. Mayo/Chicago

In a message dated 5/3/2004 11:41:28 AM Pacific Standard Time, TheShipsList-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: Thank you for the correct spelling of the ship Dromahair, I have a really hard time with the hand writing of that day. I was able to read some of the names on this manifest, but there were many that I could not. Ship Dromahair Sligo, Ire>NY 10/3/1849 Captain Patrick Pyne McDermott, Bridget 18 spinster Great Britain Jane 14 " Gun, Bridget 16 Downy Jas 21 Walker, Mary 20 spinster Hart, Henry 22 farmer Stewart, Bridget ?? matron Shaw, Jas 19 servant Killgallen, Mary 20 spinster McMurray, Maua [?] 18 spinster McDonough, Jane 18 spinster Smith, Eliza 19 spinster McLoglin[?], Catherine 18 spinster Delany, ? 18 spinster Hyland, Jane 18 spinster Rogers, Ellen 10 child Barnett, Mary 18 spinster Nolan, Jhn 23 farmer Phillips, Biddy 22 spinster Carroll, Ann 19 spinster Gaddes, Ann 20? spinster Healy, Ellen 30 spinster Hyland, Jane 18 spinster Flanagan, Ellen 25 spinster Neary, Peter 16 farmer Early, Mary 17 spinster Sharkey, J 19 farmer Gorlick, Andrew 33 farmer Mary 25 spinster Wm 4m child Corcorran, ? 21 farmer Coyne, Jno 26 farmer Clark, Ann 19 spinster Winfred 21 spinster Sheridan, Ellen 19 spinster Barnett, Mary 18 spinster Barbara : )

Hi Pat, I use McAfee Firewall so I can't advise you precisely on Norton, but in general what you want to do is to set up your Firewall to block all transmissions back and forth between the internet and your computer except your programs which are actually supposed to go out to the internet as their primary function. So you would "block" everything except: 1) your browser (presumably Netscape or Internet Explorer) 2) your email program (presumably Outlook Express or Netscape's equivalent) 3) your streaming video/audio software (Real, QuickTime, Windows MediaPlayer, etc.) 4) your automatic updaters for Windows and Norton (both firewall and virus-scan) 5) any other application you have which normally is supposed to go out to the internet as its primary function (other auto updaters, for example). These last 5 you would designate for "filtering", i.e., you would have Norton check to see whether any communication coming in or going out appears to be a normal kind of communication. Everything else you want to "block." In McAfee, if you've "blocked" a set of programs or applications and one of those tries to communicate with the internet, you get to decide whether or not you want it to and in general you don't. For example, I don't expect files I downloaded into My Documents or My Spreadsheets to suddenly decide to communicate with the internet. If they do make that decision, it's probably because they're infected with a worm or virus. So I want those "blocked." And if my firewall pops up to tell me that one of these is trying to go out to the internet, I tell it no, don't let it. If, however, I purposefully click on a hyperlink embedded in a WORD text file which I'm looking at in My Documents because I want it to go out to the internet, then my Firewall will ag! ain pop up and say that particular WORD file is trying to communicate with the internet and ask me whether I want to let it continue. In other words, it's asking me whether everything's okay, so I would tell it yes, let this communication go ahead. Someone with Norton firewall can tell you exactly how to designate "block" vs. "filter" for your various applications. Meanwhile, you'll continue to see Norton constantly stopping others from scanning your computer, trying to find a way in. I probably see a message like this every 15-20 minutes or so on mine. But a firewall isn't enough. You will also want to set up your Norton AntiVirus program to regularly scan 1) all incoming communication and files to kill worms and viruses, 2) all outgoing communication and files to kill worms and viruses, and 3) your whole computer to kill viruses and worms which somehow slipped through anyway. Because of how active you are on the internet, you'll probably want to do the full computer scan at least daily, maybe even twice daily. In general, the Firewall is trying to keep others from taking over your computer and communicating with the internet in order to set up an attack on either you or others, while the Virus-Scan is trying to kill whatever bad stuff gets through. Both functions are essential. You need both. Hope that's helpful. Best, - Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Connors" <nymets11@pacbell.net> To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 2:37 PM Subject: [Irish-American] ADMIN MSG - another virus/worm warning- Sasser > This new one is not spread from emails but though the internet. It > started in Europe and is spreading at a rapid rate across the world as > we all wake up and turn on our computers. Here is a blurb from the > Rueters news service.

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Ship Dromshair Sligo, Ire>NY 10/3/1849 Captain Patrick Tyne Burk, Bridget 36 matron ? can`t read John 30 yeoman Mary 17 spinster Bessy 9 child Mary 5 child Gallagher, Pat 24 farmer Ann ? 20 wife Mary 20 spinster [my ggggmother] [ triplets?] Honora 20 spinster Quin, Bridget 16 spinster Quin, Margaret 16 spinster These could all be mine. I find them all on and around Baxter St., NYC, with my BARRETTS. Mary 20, my ggggmother, married John Barrett. Barbara : ) German: Bauer/Beare/Beimann/Beekman/Beuscher/Blankenmeyer/Castle/Decker/Englehard/t/He lmken Hohler/Hurrinus/Johnson/Keller/Kittelberger/Low/Miller/Muller/Ringeisann/Rollmann/Schneider/Soffel/Stratton/Wagner Irish: Barrett,/Burke/Byrne/Conway/Corrigan/Gallagher/Pascoe/Quinn Polish: Budarz/Romanski

Hi Barbara, thought you might be interested to know that the ship "Dromahair" is mentioned in Edward Laxton's gripping book, "The Famine Ships: The Irish Exodus to America 1845-51," (Henry Holt & Co. NY/1996). The author gives the captain's name as Capt. Peter Pyne, though. Anyway, per the author -- "Dromahair is a village lying close to Sligo, on the far side of Lough Gill. The lough's Isle of Innisfree formed the subject of YEATS' poem 'The Lake of Innisfree." 'I will arise and go now, and go to Innisfree/And a small cabin build there, of clay and wattles made/Nine bean-rows will I have thee, a hive for the honey-bee/And live alone in the bee-loud glade .... .' The Irish emigrants fled a land of stunning beauty, which could no longer support their meagre lives, to seek refuge in an unknown country across the perilous seas. The Sligo vessel, the "Dromahair," was named after a village, and her comforting name probably omade her a popular ship with the emigrants, evoking happier memories on their journey to the New World. She was owned by her master, Captain Peter PYNE, who made many a voyage during the famine years to both Canada and America in the 353-ton barque. PYNE"s popularity was boosted by a famous crossing in 1844, when the 'Dromahair' voyaged from Quebec to Sligo in just 18 days. PYNE first sailed to NY with emigrants in the late autum of 1848 and made six similar voyages in the next three years with an average of around 150 passengers each time. Twice in 1851 the ship received good publicity on either side of the Atlantic. When she arrived in NY on May 1st, an advertisement in "The Irish-American" newspaper announced: 'Those who desire to visit the Emerald Isle can do so economically and pleasantly by booking passage on the first-class barque the 'Dromahair' for Sligo. The captain P. Pyne is a gentlemanly and agreeable companion and an able seaman. Parties desirous of bringing out their friends will have now an opportunity as this well known and fortunate ship wilk leave Sligo for New York in July.' On her second crossing to NY, much later that year, she arrived on October 15th. When she returned to Ireland once again, via Glasgow, in Scotland, six of her crew decided to desert ship as soon as she berthed back in Sligo. As they were still under contract, they were arrested and tried when caught. Irish newspapers carried reports of their trial, during which they accused Captain PYNE of violence and cruel food rationing but the magistrates accepted the master's version of events, found the seamen guilty of unlawful desertion and sentenced them to two weeks' imprisonment. On their release, they were put back on board the 'Dromahair' which sailed at once for America. Like many ship of the period, the 'Dromahair' came to a sad end. On her last voyage, in 1858, under a new master, she again carried Canadian timber from Quebec. Her captain, HUTCHINSON, decided to heave-to in a strong gale while still far out in the Atlantic The ship was struck by a heavy sea which washed away most of her equipment including the wheel She was almost a complete wreck, water-logged and with depleted provisions; six of the crew were either swept away or died of starvation but the other seven hung on for 21 days until they were rescued by a passing American ship, and eventually arrived safely back in Sligo." ----- Original Message ----- From: <Caffecupz@aol.com> To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 9:49 AM Subject: [Irish-American] Ship Dromshair > Ship Dromshair > > Sligo, Ire>NY 10/3/1849 > > Captain Patrick Tyne > > > Burk, Bridget 36 matron ? can`t read > John 30 yeoman > Mary 17 spinster > Bessy 9 child > Mary 5 child > > Gallagher, Pat 24 farmer > Ann ? 20 wife > Mary 20 spinster [my ggggmother] [ triplets?] > Honora 20 spinster > > Quin, Bridget 16 spinster > Quin, Margaret 16 spinster > > These could all be mine. I find them all on and around Baxter St., NYC, with > my BARRETTS. > Mary 20, my ggggmother, married John Barrett. > > Barbara : ) > > German: > Bauer/Beare/Beimann/Beekman/Beuscher/Blankenmeyer/Castle/Decker/Englehard/t/ He > lmken > Hohler/Hurrinus/Johnson/Keller/Kittelberger/Low/Miller/Muller/Ringeisann/Rol lmann/Schneider/Soffel/Stratton/Wagner > > Irish: > Barrett,/Burke/Byrne/Conway/Corrigan/Gallagher/Pascoe/Quinn > > Polish: > Budarz/Romanski

This new one is not spread from emails but though the internet. It started in Europe and is spreading at a rapid rate across the world as we all wake up and turn on our computers. Here is a blurb from the Rueters news service. > "If you take a normal Windows PC and connect to the Internet, you will > be infected in 10 minutes (without protection)," Mikko Hypponen, > Anti-Virus research director at Finnish data security firm F-Secure > <FSC1V.HE>, told Reuters. > > "It seems to be gradually getting worse, but it could jump as the U.S. > wakes up," he said. > > F-Secure says the worm, which surfaced over the weekend, automatically > spreads via the Internet to computers using the Microsoft <MSFT.O> > Windows operating system, especially Windows 2000 and XP. > > The spread of the virus has been muted so far, Hypponen said, as it > emerged on a weekend, and with holidays closing offices in places like > the United Kingdom and Japan on Monday. > > But the spread was expected to worsen as the work week hits its > stride, Hypponen said, adding he believes the worm originated in Russia. > Here is info about it from Norton's Symantic Security: http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.sasser.b.worm.html There are two precautions you need to take to protect yourself from these types of attacks which seem to becoming prevalent. 1. Get regular updated patches from Microsoft at: http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com 2. Get a firewall program. Saturday night, I was warned by my ISP (SBC) of this coming threat. Yesterday, I was in San Francisco all day and when I got home late last night. I took care of my email and forgot about it. This morning I had another email from my ISP and at the time I was reading it, on the radio, they were reporting about the Sasser. So I stopped reading my mail and updated my Windows patches and finally bought a Norton Firewall ($50) and four hours later have all installed. One of the Window patches I downloaded was a program to alert me when a new security patch was available. That way I can't forget to do regular checks. I know virus/worm protection is not genealogy related but since we are all doing genealogy on the computer it is important to be aware of the newest ways to protect ourselves. As the list administrator I believe it is my duty to bring these warnings to you attention. Now, I need some help since I am ignorant on how this firewall is working and getting all these strange messages about files trying to invade my computer when surfing from website to website. The dialog boxes asks me if I want to block the file, and I don't know what I am actually blocking. Does anyone know where I can go on the net to find out more? Thanks. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA, list admin http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

GREEN GROW THE LILACS Green grow the lilacs, all sparkling with dew, I'm lonely, my darling, since parting with you. But by our next meeting I'll hope to prove true, And change the green lilacs to the Red, White, and Blue. I used to have a sweetheart, but now I have none, Since she's gone and left me, I care not for one. Since she's gone and left me, contented I'll be, For she loves another one better than me. I passed my love's window, both early and late, The look that she gave me, it made my heart ache. Oh, the look that she gave me was painful to see, For she loves another one better than me. I wrote my love letters in rosy red lines, She sent me an answer all twisted in twines, Saying, "Keep your love letters and I will keep mine, Just you write to your love and I'll write to mine." Green grow the lilacs, all sparkling with dew, I'm lonely, my darling, since parting with you, But by our next meeting I'll hope to prove true, And change the green lilacs to Red, White, and Blue.

http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/Police/1928.PoliceHolyName.html Barbara : ) German: Bauer/Beare/Beimann/Beekman/Beuscher/Blankenmeyer/Castle/Decker/Englehard/t/He lmken Hohler/Hurrinus/Johnson/Keller/Kittelberger/Low/Miller/Muller/Ringeisann/Rollmann/Schneider/Soffel/Stratton/Wagner Irish: Barrett,/Burke/Byrne/Conway/Corrigan/Gallagher/Pascoe/Quinn Polish: Budarz/Romanski

would anyone having the books on Missing Friends listing in the Boston Pilot be willing to do a look up for CUSHING/ CUSHAN/CUSSEN? Many thanxs in advance Pat Seger ---- Pat Seger seger001@gold.tc.umn.edu

Seeking information on an ALBERT JAMES LEE, born Kilkeel Co Down, son of HARCOURT LEE. A solicitor who immigrated to Canada (Toronto?) late 1800's or early 1900's. & may have gone to the USA. An Albert James Lee migrated thru Ellis Island in 1917 aged 27, possibly a son John Lee Melbourne

Jean: Is there any way you know of to find information on the Laurence Fallon who apparently was an editor of that newspaper series? I saw his name frequently, but it was so long ago, I have no direct evidence for my assumption. Mary

On the weekend of May 1, 2004 I will be changing my Internet provider. As a result I will no longer have this current email address. I will send you my new one when it is activated. In the meantime I will retain my other address at pkeroack@yahoo.com in case you wish to contact me. Thanks, Paul Keroack

> > >On the weekend of May 1, 2004 I will be changing my Internet provider. > If you change your email address and need help, write me OFF list and I will be very happy to help you. Just give me your old address, your new address and the list's name. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA, listadmin http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

Smacks a bit of Houseman's "When I was One and Twenty," don't you think?

DOWN BY THE SALLEY GARDENS Down by the salley gardens my love and I did meet; She passed the salley gardens with little snow-white feet. She bid me take love easy, as the leaves grow on the tree; But I, being young and foolish, with her would not agree. In a field by the river my love and I did stand, And on my leaning shoulder she laid her snow-white hand. She bid me take life easy, as the grass grows on the weirs; But I was young and foolish, and now am full of tears. -- William Butler Yeats (1865-1939)

In a message dated 4/30/2004 1:27:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, jerrykelly@att.net writes: So I don't get it when your genealogy teachers say that the story of the brothers being in trouble with the British is too common a story to be believed. Jerry: I'm afraid I may have been misleading, somehow. The story they decried was the "three brothers (or 4 or 5)" coming over together. But I think, in this case, there is some evidence that it is true. Mary

Hi Mary, Very neat you've seen the castle. Also, I noted your family story that the boys were in trouble with the British and needed to get out. I'm also surprised by your genealogy teachers saying that the story is too common to be believed. As you know, at that point in time (1839) Ireland was ready to boil over. Things were, as always, really bad and the Irish had been fighting back as tithe withholders during the day and as "Ribbonmen" guerrillas at night. I don't remember the exact statistic but something like 5% of the population owned 90% of the land. Most of about 80% of the population (except for a very small and newly-emerging merchant class) owned nothing or practically nothing and were on the brink of starvation half the time, living in huts when they were lucky, but also in ditches and in holes they dug out of bogs. The memory of British troops executing any Irish-speakers they came across in 1798 was as vivid for Michael's father as the My Lai massacre is for someone of my generation. And if we talk about sheer population, we go from 8 million in 1841 to an estimated total of about 9-10 million on the eve of the Famine (1846) to 6.6 million in 1851 to 4.4 million in 1911, 5 years before the Eas! ter Rising. That population drop didn't come about because the British turned Ireland into some kind of island paradise. So I don't get it when your genealogy teachers say that the story of the brothers being in trouble with the British is too common a story to be believed. That's like telling a Ukranian or a Russian family that they didn't have any trouble with the Nazis during WWII and didn't have to flee their village because the story is too common to be believed. From the British point of view in 1839, 80% of Ireland was the equivalent of Viet Cong territory, controlled or dominated by an enemy attacking at night. Can you imagine a Vietnamese family from a Viet Cong area being able to say today or in 1975 that they never had any trouble with Americans? Now that would be truly unbelievable. In other words, if that's the family story, it is no doubt true and anybody who says it's not needs to learn a lot more about Irish history. Best, - Jerry

In a message dated 4/30/2004 1:51:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, jerrykelly@att.net writes: They may still be there Aye, Jerry, me boyo (as fake as ever it gets), we have actually seen what our guide said was 'Fallon Castle.' His name was John Donohoe and he volunteered to show it to us when we stopped in at the home/shop/pub of Shamus O'Fallon at Thomas Street, northwest of Athlone. Mr Fallon was in Dublin, but John heard us asking if anyone knew of the whereabouts of the castle, mentioned in MacLysaght's (sp?) book. He came with us and led us down a loooooooong single lane between (what else?) stone walls to the remnants of a tower castle by a stream (the Suck?)and a field with grazing cattle. The tallest remaining wall was possibly eight feet, but the shape was still evident. On a lovely day, it seemed idyllic. I lay no claim to it. It appears that an Edmund O'Fallon was granted it back by Elizabth I for certain pledges of alleigience. The name pervades the area, so I have little hope of finding a parent for the Michael Fallon who came to America (from Roscommon, according to his obituary) in 1839 at the age of 21, accompanied by some brothers, so tradition says. My genealogy teachers tended to belittle that aspect, as too common to credit, but a Malachi Fallon lived next door in 1860 when I finally traced him to Remson in Oneida Co., NY. The rest of the family story is that the 'boys' were in trouble with the British, so their father shipped them out to save their lives. There are many Fallons in the Tithe Applotment records in Roscommon. Any Michael (my grgrandfather Michael named his first son Michael) may be my gggrandfather, but how to choose? Thank you for your concise reponse. I should have warned you that I have spent nearly thirty years on our joint families, with some interesting developments (my husband and I are eighth cousins, once removed, from the families who founded Middletown, CT, in the 1650's, through our mothers.) The Irish have been difficult, but I may eventually find more about the Dwyers and the Walshes, who may have come from Tipperary or Clare, though I'm running out of time. Thanks again. Mary