Hello again Dorothy, I am from Newburgh, all my life. Grew up on the 4th Ward. We had a big family, four brother and four sisters. Maybe you knew some of my family. Thelma 77 RoseMary 75 thomas 73 Anita 71, Ruth 69, David died 1938, George 66 and John 55. They all left Newburgh except Ruth an myself. I am doing a family history myself, if you ever run across a George McGrath in your search please let me know. I live on Meadow street now, town of Newburgh, two houses from Bonnie. I don,t know of any McGraths that taught in St Patricks. My ggfather was killed in the Civil War 1864 at age 21 but he married my ggmother RoseMary McCleary on Dec 16,1861 in Newburgh, he left my gfather also George McGrath and a son Robert H> who died at age 2, 1865. Don,t know anything abt his family. I will keep my eye,s open for your ggfather. George gmcg62@aol.com

Hi George, Bonnie McVeigh McCullom is a cousin. Bonnie is a nickname,her name is Bernice. Her father and my father were brothers. She's rwo years older than I am, she must be 84. It's a small world. Your name sounds familiar, are you from Newburgh? I knew a Miss McGrath who taught in St. Patrick's school. If she or her daughter have an E-mail address I would love to have it and chat with her. Thank you for your offer to help. I'm looking for my g-grandfather James McVeigh, born in 1833. I'd love to know when he came to the USA. He may have come from Co. Armagh or Down, NI. Nice hearing from you. Best Regards, Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: <Gmcg62@aol.com> To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 7:53 AM Subject: Re: [Irish-American] Irish immigration through Canada > Goodmorning Dorothy, There is a lady two houses away from me named McVeigh. > They call here Bonnie, I don,t know if that is a nickname or not. > Her husband was a McCullom, he died years ago, she is getting quite old now > abt 85 or so ans she has lived in newburgh all her life. > If I can help you with anything let me know. > George McGrath gmcg62@aol.com > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. >

Goodmorning Dorothy, There is a lady two houses away from me named McVeigh. They call here Bonnie, I don,t know if that is a nickname or not. Her husband was a McCullom, he died years ago, she is getting quite old now abt 85 or so ans she has lived in newburgh all her life. If I can help you with anything let me know. George McGrath gmcg62@aol.com

Goodmorning Elizabeth I was reading your email on the list about Maguires. There was a family of Maguires that lived up the street form me. The husband died awhile back and the wife died a couple of months ago. A good friend of mine knows the son, I believe his name is Michael. They came from northern Ireland I believe in the 1960,s or 70,s. They might be related. If you want I will check with my friend to see if I can get you any info. GeorgeMcGrath gmcg62@aol.com

Dear Elizabeth, Yes, I grew up in Newburgh and we belonged to St. Patrick's parish. My father, husband and son all went to St. Patrick's school. All were taught by the same first grade teacher, Kitty Walsh. All my ancestors are buried in Calvary cemetery. I don't live there anymore, I live in fishkill, NY Where in Orange Co. were your Maguires from? did you try the Newburgh Free Library? It's on line. (http://www.newburghlibrary.org/) the address is 124 Grand St, Newburgh, NY 12550, phone 845-563-3601. I have gone to the library and found most of my information. I have gone to goshen, but didn't think about naturalization records, I did find records of property my grandparents owned and a house that my g-grandmother, Margaret McEvoy McVeigh bought in 1870. If I can help you with information on Newburgh let me know. Best Regards, Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: <KCANDME103@aol.com> To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [Irish-American] Irish immigration through Canada > Dorothy, > I tried the soundex but to no avail. Maybe you could try the Orange County, > NY (Goshen)naturalization records and see if they tell when he may have > arrived. I'm trying to find some of my Maguire's in Orange County, too, who were > also from Ireland. In the 1860 Orange County census, it lists that John Maguire > was from Co. Down. There are various spellings for Maguire so it is often > difficult to locate but can be done. > > Last summer we traveled to Orange County and visited Newburg as well. It is > quite lovely. There is a nice Catholic Church and cemetery in Newburgh....St. > Patricks. Did you family settle in Newburgh? > > We can keep looking if you have other suggestions. Sorry that I could not be > of more help! > > Best regards, > Elizabeth Culhane > Fairport, New York > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. >

Dorothy, I tried the soundex but to no avail. Maybe you could try the Orange County, NY (Goshen)naturalization records and see if they tell when he may have arrived. I'm trying to find some of my Maguire's in Orange County, too, who were also from Ireland. In the 1860 Orange County census, it lists that John Maguire was from Co. Down. There are various spellings for Maguire so it is often difficult to locate but can be done. Last summer we traveled to Orange County and visited Newburg as well. It is quite lovely. There is a nice Catholic Church and cemetery in Newburgh....St. Patricks. Did you family settle in Newburgh? We can keep looking if you have other suggestions. Sorry that I could not be of more help! Best regards, Elizabeth Culhane Fairport, New York

Hi Elizabeth, I have seen the name spelled McVey, McVay, McKay on different census. I'm not sure he came to the USA in 1850, I'm trying to determine what year he arrived. I know he lived in Newburgh, NY in 1857 as that's the year my grandfather John J McVeigh was born, James is my (elusive) g grandfather. I have been searching for years for him and decided if I could pin down the year he arrived I have a starting point. Thank you ever so much for your help.. Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: <KCANDME103@aol.com> To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [Irish-American] Irish immigration through Canada > Dorothy, > I couldn't find any McVeigh's in New York at all! I'm sorry but if you have > any other thoughts or spellings, just let me know. > > Best regards, > Elizabeth > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. >

Dorothy, I couldn't find any McVeigh's in New York at all! I'm sorry but if you have any other thoughts or spellings, just let me know. Best regards, Elizabeth

Hi Elizabeth, If you have access to the 1850 census for New York could you please see if there is a James McVeigh in either New York City or Newburgh, NY? He would be about 17 years old and would be from Northern Ireland, perhaps Co. Armagh or Co Down. Thank you for any help you can give. Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: <KCANDME103@aol.com> To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 12:45 PM Subject: [Irish-American] Irish immigration through Canada > I have noted that in the 1850 census for my Bernard Oatis/Oatis/Oats and his > family, there is a small child, Mary A. Evans, 8, birthplace, New Brunswick. > I'm wondering if this family may have come to NYC via Canada since they have > in this household this small child from what I'm believing to be Canada. > > Any thoughts? Also, is there a place to check Canadian immigration records? > > Thanks so much! > Elizabeth Culhane > Fairport, New York > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. >

I have noted that in the 1850 census for my Bernard Oatis/Oatis/Oats and his family, there is a small child, Mary A. Evans, 8, birthplace, New Brunswick. I'm wondering if this family may have come to NYC via Canada since they have in this household this small child from what I'm believing to be Canada. Any thoughts? Also, is there a place to check Canadian immigration records? Thanks so much! Elizabeth Culhane Fairport, New York

In addition to the amazing fuchsia everywhere, my grandfather always associated Hydrangea with his home in Belleek. Rosemary Mulcahy

While in Ireland in June & July 2003, I purchased a seed packet of Irish Wildflowers that included the following: poppy, sweetpea, wild viola, baby-blue eyes, calendula, maiden pinks, baby's breath, forget-me-not, snapdragon, birds eye, candyfloss, cornflower, clarkia, and nasturtiums -----Original Message----- From: Irishcolleen45@aol.com [mailto:Irishcolleen45@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 4:45 PM To: IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Irish-American] Re: Irish plants Pat, When my husband and I were in Ireland May and June 2003, we were struck with all of the Rhododendrons that were in bloom for most of both months. Another shrub was called Gorse. It is a bold yellow bush that grew with abandon all over Ireland. Nora FitzGerald Pat Wood writes: > Hi > > Need your help. What plants / flowers ... beyond the Shamrock ... do you think > of when you think of Ireland? Would really appreciate your thoughts. > > We need to re-plant a good part of our backyard after a new sewer line had to be installed. Our climate around Puget Sound in the Pacific Northwest is similar to that of the Emerald Isle. It is a temperatie climate, and is very very green due to lots of rain. So, we thought that it would be kind of nice to look for plantings that we'd likely see in Ireland. > > This yard requires both shade-seeking and sun tolerant plants.... trees, bushes > and flowers. > > All ideas most welcome! Thanks. > Pat Wood > Fircrest, WA ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc.

I don't have a specific answer to that question but I do have some observations, which I made when I visited Ireland a few years ago. Obviously, the Irish LOVE plants and flowers. They were everywhere, window boxes in department stores, gardens in the yards of almost everyone's home, and boxes on streets. One of the most interesting sites I saw was a small flower growing through a crack on a very busy sidewalk in one city (sorry can't recall which one). I don't know what kind of flower it was but each person that approached it was VERY careful not to step on it. I cannot imagine that happening in any major city in America. I did notice a lot of roses so perhaps that might be considered a 'favorite'. Margaret in NV --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - Buy advance tickets for 'Shrek 2'

Pat, When my husband and I were in Ireland May and June 2003, we were struck with all of the Rhododendrons that were in bloom for most of both months. Another shrub was called Gorse. It is a bold yellow bush that grew with abandon all over Ireland. Nora FitzGerald Pat Wood writes: > Hi > > Need your help. What plants / flowers ... beyond the Shamrock ... do you think > of when you think of Ireland? Would really appreciate your thoughts. > > We need to re-plant a good part of our backyard after a new sewer line had to be installed. Our climate around Puget Sound in the Pacific Northwest is similar to that of the Emerald Isle. It is a temperatie climate, and is very very green due to lots of rain. So, we thought that it would be kind of nice to look for plantings that we'd likely see in Ireland. > > This yard requires both shade-seeking and sun tolerant plants.... trees, bushes > and flowers. > > All ideas most welcome! Thanks. > Pat Wood > Fircrest, WA

I haven't tried to grow fuschias here. There were just a lot of them everywhere we went in Tipperary. I haven't had much time to concentrate on gardening yet. We saw rhodondren's growing wild along the riverbanks in Ireland as well. -----Original Message----- From: Elaine [mailto:elaine@cyberhouse.org] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 3:30 PM To: IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Irish-American] Irish plants Hi, Since San Juan Island WA is further north than where we live in southwestern OR I am surprised that you can grow fuschias outside year round. The only ones I have seen here are in pots that you need to bring inside in the winter. When we lived in southern CA many years ago we had lots of beautiful fuschias in our yard. I love them. There are so many varieties. I sure wish we could plant them here. We have lots of roses and they are beautiful except when the deer eat them. ;-( Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Hawley" <sjhawley@interisland.net> To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 8:49 AM Subject: RE: [Irish-American] Irish plants > Hi, > A plant we saw everywhere in Tipperary was fuschia. The story I was told is > that wherever you saw a fuschia bush, it was likely the site of an old house > that had fallen down. We saw plenty of fuschia bushes. Other plants that > you really don't want that seemed to be prevalent were thistles and sedge - > the sheep avoided those. We already have enough of these in the Pacific NW. > (I live on SJ Island and would be interested to know what other plants you > come up with.) I bought a booklet of Irish flowers and will try to find it > to see what else it lists. > > Sandra > San Juan Island, WA > > -----Original Message----- > From: wood.pat@comcast.net [mailto:wood.pat@comcast.net] > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 8:37 AM > To: IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Irish-American] Irish plants > > Hi > > Need your help. What plants / flowers ... beyond the Shamrock ... do you > think > of when you think of Ireland? Would really appreciate your thoughts. > > We need to re-plant a good part of our backyard after a new sewer line had > to be installed. Our climate around Puget Sound in the Pacific Northwest is > similar to that of the Emerald Isle. It is a temperatie climate, and is > very very green due to lots of rain. So, we thought that it would be kind of > nice to look for plantings that we'd likely see in Ireland. > > This yard requires both shade-seeking and sun tolerant plants.... trees, > bushes > and flowers. > > All ideas most welcome! Thanks. > Pat Wood > Fircrest, WA > > > -- > Pat Wood > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. > > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc.

Sounds similar to "yellow furze". I came upon this in researching my Reddys in County Meath and they belonged to the parish of Yellow Furze. I learned that it was a bright yellow flower among thorns and a nusiance to farmers. Upon a visit to Ireland I saw much of it on many hillsides. > > From: "Sandra Hawley" <sjhawley@interisland.net> > Date: 2004/05/11 Tue AM 11:49:20 EDT > To: IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [Irish-American] Irish plants > > Hi, > A plant we saw everywhere in Tipperary was fuschia. The story I was told is > that wherever you saw a fuschia bush, it was likely the site of an old house > that had fallen down. We saw plenty of fuschia bushes. Other plants that > you really don't want that seemed to be prevalent were thistles and sedge - > the sheep avoided those. We already have enough of these in the Pacific NW. > (I live on SJ Island and would be interested to know what other plants you > come up with.) I bought a booklet of Irish flowers and will try to find it > to see what else it lists. > > Sandra > San Juan Island, WA > > -----Original Message----- > From: wood.pat@comcast.net [mailto:wood.pat@comcast.net] > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 8:37 AM > To: IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Irish-American] Irish plants > > Hi > > Need your help. What plants / flowers ... beyond the Shamrock ... do you > think > of when you think of Ireland? Would really appreciate your thoughts. > > We need to re-plant a good part of our backyard after a new sewer line had > to be installed. Our climate around Puget Sound in the Pacific Northwest is > similar to that of the Emerald Isle. It is a temperatie climate, and is > very very green due to lots of rain. So, we thought that it would be kind of > nice to look for plantings that we'd likely see in Ireland. > > This yard requires both shade-seeking and sun tolerant plants.... trees, > bushes > and flowers. > > All ideas most welcome! Thanks. > Pat Wood > Fircrest, WA > > > -- > Pat Wood > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. > > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. > >

Rhodies (rhododendron) grow all over the Pacific Northwest and are gorgeous. Ours are in bloom right now. They are related to azaleas. ----- Original Message ----- From: "mkmullen" <mkmullen@ticon.net> To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:18 AM Subject: [Irish-American] Plants in Ireland > I remember seeing lots of Rhodedendren ( spelling) while visiting in > Ireland. One family we visited had the same annuals that we have. > Zinnias Seems like they liked the bright flowers around their homes. > > Mary Kay > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. > >

Hi Need your help. What plants / flowers ... beyond the Shamrock ... do you think of when you think of Ireland? Would really appreciate your thoughts. We need to re-plant a good part of our backyard after a new sewer line had to be installed. Our climate around Puget Sound in the Pacific Northwest is similar to that of the Emerald Isle. It is a temperatie climate, and is very very green due to lots of rain. So, we thought that it would be kind of nice to look for plantings that we'd likely see in Ireland. This yard requires both shade-seeking and sun tolerant plants.... trees, bushes and flowers. All ideas most welcome! Thanks. Pat Wood Fircrest, WA -- Pat Wood

Hi, Since San Juan Island WA is further north than where we live in southwestern OR I am surprised that you can grow fuschias outside year round. The only ones I have seen here are in pots that you need to bring inside in the winter. When we lived in southern CA many years ago we had lots of beautiful fuschias in our yard. I love them. There are so many varieties. I sure wish we could plant them here. We have lots of roses and they are beautiful except when the deer eat them. ;-( Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Hawley" <sjhawley@interisland.net> To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 8:49 AM Subject: RE: [Irish-American] Irish plants > Hi, > A plant we saw everywhere in Tipperary was fuschia. The story I was told is > that wherever you saw a fuschia bush, it was likely the site of an old house > that had fallen down. We saw plenty of fuschia bushes. Other plants that > you really don't want that seemed to be prevalent were thistles and sedge - > the sheep avoided those. We already have enough of these in the Pacific NW. > (I live on SJ Island and would be interested to know what other plants you > come up with.) I bought a booklet of Irish flowers and will try to find it > to see what else it lists. > > Sandra > San Juan Island, WA > > -----Original Message----- > From: wood.pat@comcast.net [mailto:wood.pat@comcast.net] > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 8:37 AM > To: IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Irish-American] Irish plants > > Hi > > Need your help. What plants / flowers ... beyond the Shamrock ... do you > think > of when you think of Ireland? Would really appreciate your thoughts. > > We need to re-plant a good part of our backyard after a new sewer line had > to be installed. Our climate around Puget Sound in the Pacific Northwest is > similar to that of the Emerald Isle. It is a temperatie climate, and is > very very green due to lots of rain. So, we thought that it would be kind of > nice to look for plantings that we'd likely see in Ireland. > > This yard requires both shade-seeking and sun tolerant plants.... trees, > bushes > and flowers. > > All ideas most welcome! Thanks. > Pat Wood > Fircrest, WA > > > -- > Pat Wood > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. > > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. > >

I remember seeing lots of Rhodedendren ( spelling) while visiting in Ireland. One family we visited had the same annuals that we have. Zinnias Seems like they liked the bright flowers around their homes. Mary Kay