> > >is everyone getting e-mail I don't seem to have gotten any today > When in doubt, check the list's archives and if you see mail there that you haven't received, check password central to see if you are still subscribed. (I believe I covered this in a recent post) If you are not getting the mail and you are subbed, then write me off list and I'll do what I can to help you. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA, list admin http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

I went to school (Catholic)with children named Darragh They pronounced their name as Darra. Kate Press Melbourne, Australia > >How do you pronounce Darragh? > > >I would say, Darra, but I am no expert. >-- >Pat Connors, Sacramento CA

SNIPPET: The following are excerpts from a featured article in a 1996 "Ancestry" magazine published in Salt Lake City, UT, which should be of interest to those with ancestors who were involved with early photography either commercially or as a past-time. Per the article - American daguerreotypists entered works in many art competitions in the United States and in Europe, especially England. By 1851, American daguerreotypes were deemed to be of a higher quality than those found in England. English critics felt this was due to the clean air found in America (compared to London's smoggy atmosphere) and the resultant brighter lighting. However, part of the difference might also be the high-quality silvered plates used in America. Daguerreotypes were doomed to a short life - about 20 years. By 1860, they were being replaced by less expensive forms of photography: the ambrotype and the ferrotype. Another factor may have been the demise of many daguerreotypists. Daguerreotypes were developed by immersing the plates in a mercury solution and then heating them. Mercury vapor was a by-product of the process, and many daguerreotypists suffered from mercury poisoning. By the Civil War era, Americans had moved on to other forms of photography. Some fortunate family historians have a treasured early image of their ancestor. Produced on a highly polished, silvered copperplate, a daguerreotype image is difficult to see in certain positions, moving the cased photograph around at different angles causes the image to disappear or be difficult to discern. If there is a mirror-like quality, it is probably a daguerreotype and taken between 1840 and 1860. A magnet placed at the back of the case section should demonstrate an attraction in the case of a daguerreotype or ferrotype (tintype), but an ambrotype, which is made of glass, will not. Additionally, daguerreotypes have a very detailed image when compared to other cased photographs. More precise dating can be done by checking the costumes, etc., found in the photograph. Most American daguerreotypes are found in cases, which usually look like miniature books. Jewel cases were also used in the early days before special daguerreotype cases were manufactured. Th! e early cases were made of wood, papier mache, and, later, plastic. The right or bottom side of the case was used for the daguerreotype which was protected by a gold-colored matting and then covered with glass. The three layers were bound together by a protector, which was a thin brass frame which wrapped around the whole. This was then pressed into the frame of the case. The left or top side of the case was padded with silk, satin, or velvet. When closed the case was latched with a small hook. The most common size in America was called "the sixth size" - 2-3/4 x 3-1/4 in. It should be remembered that the date of the case may not be the date of the photograph on the inside, for the daguerreotype cases were often reused for later forms of photography like ambrotypes and even tintypes. The daguerreotype was first introduced in the United States via booklets outlining Louis DAGUERRE's process in reproducing an image on a silvered copperplate. Many early American daguerreotypists learned through these booklets; however, later ones trained in the studios of the first artists/daguerreotypists like Samuel F. B. MORSE. MORSE, along with chemistry professor John W. DRAPER, worked on the process to improve the quality and capabilities of the daguerreotype. DAGUERRE's process could be done only with outside light and involved an exposure time of 10-15 minutes. MORSE, an accomplished artist, felt this medium would be ideal, with improvements, for portraits. The first obstacle was the copperplate: Americans began producing higher quality and more highly polished silvered copperplates, which was necessary for clear, acceptable portraits. Secondly, the exposure time had to be lowered: by 1840, the exposure time was cut from 15 minutes to mere seconds, thus ma! king it feasible for people to sit for a daguerreotype portrait. Cleveland's J. F. JENKINS advertised in 1844 that it took only a minute and a half to obtain a perfect likeness. In the spring of 1839, some type of photographic prints were displayed in a Cincinnati bookstore produced by John LOCKE, professor of chemistry and pharmacy at the Medical College of OH. Sign painter Ezekial C. HAWKINS is believed to have been established the second daguerreotype gallery in the United States, in Cincinnati in 1840. By 1851, Cincinnatians had a choice of 32 daguerreotype photographers. They sold $80,000 worth of pictures in 1851. This new artistic medium was first shown in Cleveland in 1842. Four of DAGUERRE"s "Chemical Pictures" were shown at the courthouse on three evenings in August for the admission price of 50 cents. A letter to the editor extolled this exhibit -- "a sight of them is worth a score of concerts...." That fall the first advertisement appeared in the Cl! eveland newspapers for a daguerreotype studio, E. DIBBLE's, in the Franklin building. Many of the better practitioners were accomplished artists, especially of portraiture experienced in lighting, proportions, and posing. The best results indoors demanded a large skylight or a large window facing northwest. The importance of light is evidenced by advertisements of early daguerreian galleries. In 1852, the Forest City Daguerreian Rooms of Cleveland announced they had "the largest and best skylight in the city." By the mid-1850s, the daguerreian galleries advertised that they could make daguerreotypes in any type of weather. Daguerreotypists were proficient in disguising or minimizing flaws of the portrait sitters including placement of the camera and rubbing the skin of a freckled face until it was red, in order to disguise the spots. Positioning sitters, especially in the early years, reflected the artistic background of the daguerreotypists. Positions, props, and backgrounds all were reminiscent of 18th-century painting. Some practitioners knowledge! able in chemistry experimented with various chemicals which would tint the daguerreotype green, brown, or gold. In 1842 a method of coloring was patented. A painting could be of the entire figure, or simply rosy cheeks. Early fading images could be retouched. Many early daguerreotypists were itinerants, wandering from town to town with their wagons filled with their equipment and chemicals, offering to take pictures of homes and buildings, as well as portraits. The itinerants would stay a month or two in one town and then move on to the next. Landscape daguerreotypes also found an audience. Another popular use of daguerreotypes was for photographing the dead and also for mounting on tombstones. Often one of the first persons called in the event of a death, especially of a child, was a daguerreotypist, so the parents would have a remembrance of the lost child. It was not uncommon in the early days for photography to be a sideline. Cleveland photographer James F. RYDER wrote in his memoirs that it was common "to find watch repairers, dentists, and other styles of business folk to carry daguerreotype 'on the side.' It is possible to have a horse shod, your boots tapped, a tooth pulled or a likeness taken by the same man..." Daguerreotypes were not inexpensive. A quarter plate, 3-1/4 in x 4-1/4 in could cost 4 or 5 dollars -- not a small amount in the 1840s. Nevertheless, it was estimated that Americans spent about eight to twelve million dollars annually on daguerreotypes in the 1840s. On a humerous note -- "The Chicago Inter-Ocean" in 1877 carried an article regarding sitting for pictures: If a lady wanted to present a serene expression, she should say 'Bosom,' while a distinguished look could be obtained by saying "Brush." Saying "Cabbage" would make the mouth appear larger, "Flip," smaller. "Kerchunk" was suggested for those wishing a mournful look. -- Excerpts, Diane VanSkiver Gagle, "Ancestry" magazine, pub. Salt Lake City, UT/ Nov-Dec 1996. Toledo/Lucas County Public Library archivist, she was soon to publish her book, "Nineteenth Century Ohio Photographers." --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release Date: 5/23/2004

SNIPPET: In the Sept-Oct 2001 issue of Dublin-published "Ireland of the Welcomes," readers had comments about Ireland as well as particular IOTW magazine articles they have enjoyed: Shirley McGLYNN, Lavender Bay, Australia, shared: "I have been subscribing for a number of years and enjoy re-reading the issues, particularly when mention is made of my ancestral area on the Shannon and Clondra, Co. Longford. I have visited Ireland eight times, the first time youth hostelling in the south and north in 1954 - a rather different Ireland then. One article in particular struck a chord with me - 'Memories of the Shannon,' by Patrick J. POWER, Sept-Oct 2000" -- 'Whenever I return to Tarmonbarry, cross the hump-back bridge in Clondra, drive down the hill past what used to be CLYNES' mill ... and see the Shannon below me.' My family lived in Richmond House and worked the Richmond Mill from 1831 until it was sold to Joseph CLYNE in 1928. Bernadette CLYNE supplied photos for my family story: 'A Family on the Shannon: the FLEMINGS of Richmond Harbour, County Longford, Ireland,' published in 1994. Jane LAMB, Brunswick, ME, wrote: "For more than 20 years, I have been enjoying your beautiful magazine and it never fails to delight me. I always find some connection, small or great, with my Irish roots. One of the most exciting articles was several years about about SYNGE's cottage and its restoration, which led to my corresponding with Treasa Ni FHATHARTA. I wanted to find some clue to my great-grandfather's origins -- A DERRANE, he was supposedly born in Inishmaan. The greatest number of connections in one issue, however, came with the May/June 2001 issue. The article on Cork City struck me because I visited Dr. Seamus DURAN of UCC there last year. I got acquainted with him through a footnote in Tim ROBINSON's 'Stone of Aran. In pursuit of common ancestors.' From the article 'Road Bowling in Cork' by Sophie GORMAN, I was pleased to discover, this was not just an ancient sport described with great humour in the Irish RM, one of my favourite reads. Imagine how s! urprised I was to learn that one of my friends goes road bowling with Irish pals right here in Maine! Then I turned to the story about Sherkin Island Marine Station, where another dear friend spent seven romantic years before returning here to spin marvellous yarns about the place. 'Music in the Mountains' by Alf McCREARY spoke to me of my nephew. A follower of Rudoph STEINER, he teaches people with special needs in a Waldorf School in Sydney, Australia. Although he has not said so, it must be surely part of the Camphill Movement. Finding a photo of the inimitable David NORRIS, dancing for Joy-ce capped the climax. I had the privilege and fun of studying with David at Trinity 25 years ago! I've been to Ireland several times since then and plan to take my grand-daughter to the Kerrygold Horse Show and the Connemara Pony Show this year. She is also keen to visit Middle Earth Country featured in the Jan/Feb 2001 issue. Thank you again for a wonderful publication and ! its breathtaking photos." Glen and La Dona BALINGER, Cornersville, TN, wrote: "Have you ever been homesick for a place you had never been before? That is exactly how my wife and I had felt before realising that we must come to Ireland. My own mother who is now 90 years old, had told me how her grandfather had told her about Ireland, and that he spoke with such a heavy brogue, that as children she and her brothers and sisters could barely understand him. He must have migrated to America during the mid-1800s, settling in middle TN. These old stories, and a strange drawing sensation finally brought us to your enchanted island last year. Aer Lingus brought us safely from Boston to Shannon and from the first moment we were captivated by the spell of the countryside, the people, the pubs, and the shops, all were more than we had imagined. We took a self-drive holiday, so we were able to travel at our own pace and stayed at B&Bs to meet more people on a personal level. The overall experience was r! emarkable. Everyone was so friendly and helpful. However, we did not get to spend as much time as we wanted to at any one place, as there was so much to see and we had to travel on. We did travel from Kerry to Cork to Wicklow so as to get "a bit of a feel" of the country. When we had to fly home no one was ready, and I must admit more than a few tears were shed at Dublin airport. Our source of hope at that time was the comfort in knowing that we would soon be returning..." --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release Date: 5/22/2004

I have updated the Irish American mailing list surname registry with another 49 names. Please check your submission for accuracy. If your email address or your data has changed, or if you find mistakes, submit another form and put 'change' in the field where you need the change. You can access the registries from links on our website near the bottom under, "Irish American Links". If you don't know the URL of the website, you can go to the URL below my name. At my homepage, at the top, under Mailing Lists, click on Irish American. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

An additional feature of the Waltham MA, Boston States Migrations Fair will be access to the Ships & Seafarer's of Atlantic Canada CD. Irish born mariners surnames in the registries recorded on the Ships & Seafarer�s of Atlantic Canada CD http://www.GenealogyFair.com/Irishmariners.htm Please register for the fair if you plan to attend so we can schedule the mariner records access accordingly. ===== Sharon Sergeant Ancestors and Ephemera http://GenealogyFair.com Bring Your Ancestors Home!

I don't know personally, but I had a friend named Morris, who was contacted by a Mr. Morris. He asked her a lot of questions, shared little, and then put her information into a book he was writing and offered to SELL it to her at a later date later. Write me off list if you want more details. Pat Irishnana01@hotmail.com FLOOR: The place for storing your priceless genealogy records. ----Original Message Follows---- From: Nanaannemarie@aol.com Reply-To: IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com To: IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Irish-American] Re: Otherdays.com and Origins.com Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2004 19:17:09 EDT Has anyone had any experience with a subscription to Andrew J Morris DIGdat DIGdat - Digital Irish Genealogy Data http://www.ajmorris.com/dig/about.htm Is it worth getting a subscription? His Ireland, County Fermanagh Directory and Household Almanac, 1880 Seems to hold a lot of very interesting information. AnneMarie Dunne George searching DUNNE, MCMANUS, leonard and gallagher in ireland ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/

I just finished a years subscription with Otherdays and was quite pleased when I was able to fill in some blanks that I had in County Limerick and County Galway. Judy Christopher ----- Original Message ----- From: <Nanaannemarie@aol.com> To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2004 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [Irish-American] Re: Otherdays.com and Origins.com > Has anyone had any experience with a subscription to > > Andrew J Morris DIGdat > > DIGdat - Digital Irish Genealogy Data > > > http://www.ajmorris.com/dig/about.htm > > Is it worth getting a subscription? > > His Ireland, County Fermanagh > Directory and Household Almanac, > 1880 > > > > Seems to hold a lot of very interesting information. > > AnneMarie Dunne George > searching DUNNE, MCMANUS, leonard and gallagher in ireland > > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. > >

> > >I just finished a years subscription with Otherdays > Did you ever figure out how to navigate the OS maps that go along with the Griffiths Valuation? I am at a loss. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

> > >Which county is Darraugh in? > The 1851 Townland index is on line at: www.seanruad.com Another place to look up townlands is: http://scripts.ireland.com/ancestor/placenames/index.cfm -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

Has anyone had any experience with a subscription to Andrew J Morris DIGdat DIGdat - Digital Irish Genealogy Data http://www.ajmorris.com/dig/about.htm Is it worth getting a subscription? His Ireland, County Fermanagh Directory and Household Almanac, 1880 Seems to hold a lot of very interesting information. AnneMarie Dunne George searching DUNNE, MCMANUS, leonard and gallagher in ireland

Does anyone ever see anything on Frank, and son Andrew Quinn, Andrew spouse Fredricka Wilhelmina Bertsch/ Burtch. (Germany) Ire. New York, Illinois, Minn. ILL. Thanks, Rose Marie VIERA Quinn . riponrosie@aol.com

In a message dated 6/5/2004 12:53:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, irishnana01@hotmail.com writes: > FLOOR: The place for storing your priceless genealogy records. > > So very true, and with all the locations of Darragh, is it any wonder we are all so confused! have a beautiful spring weekend everyone AnneMarie

Darragh in this particular posting is in County Limerick. But I checked and there are others in Down and Clare. No "u" in the spelling. _http://www.seanruad.com/cgi-bin/iresrch_ (http://www.seanruad.com/cgi-bin/iresrch) Nora _grant@m.emery.k12.ut.us_ (mailto:grant@m.emery.k12.ut.us) writes: Which county is Darraugh in? Cynthia -----Original Message----- From: Irishcolleen45@aol.com [mailto:Irishcolleen45@aol.com] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 1:55 PM To: IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Irish-American] Re: Darragh That's how I heard it pronounce when I was there last year. Nora nymets11@pacbell.net writes: > > >How do you pronounce Darragh? > I would say, Darra, but I am no expert. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA

SNIPPET: The July-August 1998 issue of "Ireland of the Welcomes" magazine published in Dublin had some interesting comments about Ireland from some of their readers: Lily Sillert WEBB, Houston, TX, shared: "Your article on the Avoca Handweavers in the Jan-Feb 1998 issue really did bring back memories - how I ran every morning to get to school from my Granny's house up in Knockenree, which is just up above the road from the Mill. The 'up above the road' was 4 or 5 miles from the village and the school. I would drop off my Uncle Peter CULLEN's lunch and would look around the mill at the wonder of it all: water wheels, little bridges, heaps of coloured wool drying outside, white-washed buildings more wonderful when the sun was shining, the busy little ducks waddling around in and out of the little brooks, the green grass, the flower pots. Wave hello to my cousins the BASS family, who were weavers there. I think about ten of them were trained and worked as weavers for years. I remember the big house, the beautiful gardens. I still remember shaking in my shoes as my cousin, Lily BASS, raised the knocker on that big door to drop off s! ome knitting for the lovely WYNNE sisters who lived there - the friendly hello. I was only ten years old at the time but I guess that I recognised beauty and magic when I saw it. Thank you for bringing back the wonderful memories." M. J. RIGHETTI, Brooklyn, OH, wrote: "In July of 1996 the night before my sister and I were preparing to make our first trip abroad, the tragedy of Flight 800 from JFK happened. We were so upset that we decided not to go, but in the morning we said a prayer, flipped a coin and later that afternoon we left. We arrived safely in Dublin. A tour guide told us plenty of stories and myths as we drove through each county. Through your magazine I am able to live all those memories again and again. You hear about the beauty of Ireland, but you can never truly appreciate it until you visit it yourself." Edward P. INGOLDSBY, King of Prussia, PA, shared: "In your May-June issue of 1993 you had an article about "The Lantern Lodge" Bed & Breakfast. I was so impressed with the article that I saved it for many years. I made up my mind that some day I would return to Ireland and visit the O'DONNELL farm. On September 9, 1997, I landed in Shannon. It was a long first day: o I took the bus, train, walked and hitch-hiked to Ballyorgan. When I arrives Frances O'DONNELL greeted me at the door. She looked just like her photograph in "Ireland of the Welcomes." She made me feel right at home as she treats her guests as part of her family. I was like a child on Christmas morning: I took photographs of the deer, the exotic birds and beautiful countryside. On the second day I went to the Ballyhoura mountains. The weather was perfect and scenery spectacular. My two days at the O'DONNELL farm were the high-light of my trip. "The Lantern Lodge" is a great place to get away from it! all." Julie MAYNARD, Brookings, OR, wrote: "My mother was of Irish descent (GALLAGHER/COSGROVE) and was intrigued by her visits to Ireland. After her death I was determined to go to Ireland. I planned a trip in late October. I too feel there is genetic memory when one finds oneself brought to her emotional knees in an inexplicable manner!" Pamela Gill TODD, New Oreans, LA, wrote: "My husband and I went on a tour in Ireland last summer led by the musicians Danny and Patrick O'FLAHERTY who were raised in Connemra and who now have a pub in New Orleans. They played traditional music whereever we went, which was the main reason for the tour. They are very interested in encouraging this type of music, especially among young people. Since my husband and I love traditional Irish music, our trip was a combination of everything we hoped it would be. We got to meet the O'FLAHERTY family both on the Aran Islands and in Connemara. Ireland is so much more real to us now and we look forward to the time that we can return to your fair Emerald Isle." Alexander BREED, Watertown, MA, wrote: "I was glad to see the stories in Irish, which you have included lately in "Ireland of the Welcomes." "Patrick," Mallachtai Cholm Cille, and "St. Brigid." I'm sure that many of your readers are interested in the Irish language. As you know, many travellers to Ireland attend Irish language summer schools, myself included. While not all of us may speak great Irish yet, we love the language and we are very encouraged when see it in the pages of this important magazine. Keep it up!" Harold A. NELSON, Hermitage, PA, sent in this verse which it appears he composed, titled "Nostalgic Thoughts on Ireland." Up early to a breakfast of just-right eggs and the unique flavour of potato-fed ham, bacon and blood pudding topped off with soda bread and 'Barry's Tea.' Then outdoors to an open, level country, crossed by lanes, closely defined by hedge-covered stone walls, and low white cottages roofed by warm yellow thatch. To the north, Galway Bay is changing from Atlantic blue to slate under the large white clouds charging in from the sea. In the distance is a line of bright green tree-less mountains, their hues alter with the cloud shadows. The low, steady wind carries the sound of cattle and the wash of waves. So cool after a Pennsylvania heatwave. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release Date: 5/22/2004

According to the Index to the Towns and Townlands of Ireland 1851, Darragh Beg is in Limerick, Darragh Island is in Down, Daggaghlan is in Monohan, Darragh More is in Limerick, Darragh North is in Clare, Darragh South is in Clare, Darranstown is in Limerick, Darraragh is in Mayo. There are a few more obscure, but might sound similar if these do not work out. Pat Irishnana01@hotmail.com FLOOR: The place for storing your priceless genealogy records. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Cynthia Grant" <grant@m.emery.k12.ut.us> Reply-To: IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com To: IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [Irish-American] Re: Darragh Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2004 08:21:03 -0600 Which county is Darraugh in? Cynthia -----Original Message----- From: Irishcolleen45@aol.com [mailto:Irishcolleen45@aol.com] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 1:55 PM To: IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Irish-American] Re: Darragh That's how I heard it pronounce when I was there last year. Nora nymets11@pacbell.net writes: > > >How do you pronounce Darragh? > I would say, Darra, but I am no expert. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.665 / Virus Database: 428 - Release Date: 4/21/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.665 / Virus Database: 428 - Release Date: 4/21/2004 ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. _________________________________________________________________ Looking to buy a house? Get informed with the Home Buying Guide from MSN House & Home. http://coldwellbanker.msn.com/

Which county is Darraugh in? Cynthia -----Original Message----- From: Irishcolleen45@aol.com [mailto:Irishcolleen45@aol.com] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 1:55 PM To: IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Irish-American] Re: Darragh That's how I heard it pronounce when I was there last year. Nora nymets11@pacbell.net writes: > > >How do you pronounce Darragh? > I would say, Darra, but I am no expert. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.665 / Virus Database: 428 - Release Date: 4/21/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.665 / Virus Database: 428 - Release Date: 4/21/2004

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This week's NEHGS eNews newsletter republished a 1989 NEXUS article about Rathlin Island, County Antrim migrations to Washington County Maine, forwarded below. This article illustrates one very specific example of "sister communities" across several countries, as families, friends and coworkers formed group and chain migrations patterns in the Boston States Migrations region of eastern Canada, New York and New England. Washington County researchers will be gathering at the Boston States Migrations Family History Fair Weekend, June 11-13 in Waltham MA, along with folks who have research interests for other migration groups within the Boston States. See http://bostonstates.rootsweb.com/ for details and registration. Atlantic Canada Irish will be featured at the TIARA evening meeting on June 11 at Boston College when Sandra Devlin, the award winning Canadian genealogy columnist, will present "Connect with Your Family in Atlantic Canada". See http://tiara.ie/meet.html ======================================================================================= Any Washington County researchers who cannot attend but have connections to these families may wish to send their information to Sharon Howland, Washington County Maine Records Preservation Fund Trustee at shwkrp@aol.com , as well as copy to Marie Daly at NEHGS, email mdaly@nehgs.org Forwarded from the NEHGS newsletter: This week we present "Rathlin Islanders Downeast" by Marie E. Daly, originally published in NEHGS NEXUS, 6:6, 1989. When industrialists Richard Branson and Per Lindstrand soared across the Atlantic Ocean in their twenty-one-story balloon, they launched a chain of events which eventually led back to their starting point - Maine. In the largest hot-air balloon ever made, the British adventurers embarked from Carrabassett Valley and the Bigelow Mountain range in Maine. They intended to land the Virgin Atlantic Flyer in Europe, thereby exceeding the world record for both distance and speed. As the mammoth balloon reached Northern Ireland on July 4, 1987, a low cloud cover and a wind shift forced the men to attempt a landing on a north coast beach. Having failed to separate the pressurized capsule from the balloon, Branson and Lindstrand leaped into the sea near Rathlin Island, County Antrim. A swarm of air and sea-going vessels, including the British Navy and the Coast Guard, tracked the balloon's demise. Navy helicopters plucked the stranded men from the sea, but the balloon careened off toward the Mull of Kintyre. When the Virgin Atlantic Flyer finally touched down in the Northern Channel, Rathlin Islanders in a fishing boat retrieved the million-dollar balloon, and claimed it for salvage.1 Despite the Navy's attempt to confiscate the balloon, the island fishermen clung to their booty, thereby qualifying for a reward of 60,000 pounds.2 To fishermen struggling to make ends meet, the prize was the largest sum of money they had ever seen. With the reward, the islanders established a trust fund, and purchased and transformed their old landlord's manor into a heritage center. Subsequently, the island's 110 residents began to investigate the history of their locale. Once the island supported about 1,200 inhabitants, but the Great Famine and its concurrent emigration depopulated Rathlin in the nineteenth century. According to traditional lore many Rathlin emigres settled in Maine and Quebec.3 Attempting to locate their long-lost cousins, Kathlyn McFaul of the Rathlin Island Trust wrote to NEHGS in 1988. Thus the fortuitous crash-landing of this balloon from Maine instigated a quest to discover Rathlin's past connection to Maine. Ringed by mountains and high cliffs on three sides, Rathlin Island is about six miles long and one mile wide, and lies seven miles opposite the town of Ballycastle, County Antrim. Noted by Pliny and Ptolemy, the island bears archaeological evidence, in the form of ring forts and flints, dating back to the Neolithic Period. Rathlin's Christian era began with the landing of Saint Comgall of Bangor in 580 A.D. However, marauding Norsemen destroyed the ancient monastery in 790 and 973. In medieval times, many Scots (who were descendants of Dalriada or North-east Antrim people) fleeing interclan wars took refuge on Rathlin, including (according to legend) Robert Bruce, who fortified a castle there. In 1558, the Rathlin Scots were attacked by the Earl of Sussex, and in 1642 by the Earl of Argyll, who massacred every person, hurling even infants over the cliffs. Since 1476, the Macdonnells (MacDonald) of Islay and Kintyre, afterwards Earls of Antrim, had possessed the island. But in 1746 Alexander, fifth Earl of Antrim, sold Rathlin to Rev. John Gage, Prebendary of Aghadowey (County Derry), whose descendants retained ownership until the twentieth century.4 The devastating potato blight of 1846-1853, which produced the Great Famine in Ireland, also affected the island. "...although none on Rathlin died of starvation, the people's faith in the inevitability of an abundant harvest had been shattered."5 One hundred seven persons fled in 1847, and heavy emigration continued until 1881. In 1841 the island maintained a population of 1,010, but by 1851 the number had diminished to 753, and by 1861 to 453.6 Thus over 550 persons or more than half the population had emigrated during the famine period. Research indicates that at least 230, but probably many more, of these emigrants settled in Washington County, Maine. Rathlin's culture was more Hebridean than Irish. The inhabitants spoke Scots Gaelic and often regarded the mainland as a foreign country. The main industries were cattle and sheep raising, oats, barley and potato agriculture, fishing, kelp harvesting, and linen and wool production. Rathlin featured distinct communities at either end of the island, with the western, fowling community speaking Gaelic primarily, and [197] the eastern, fishing community speaking English.7 In 1834, the majority of the people lived in clachans, i.e. closely congregated families who held joint tenure. Lodged under the scarps of terraced basalts, their low, whitewashed stone and thatch houses were built to withstand the wind. Lewis describes the islanders as "simple, laborious and honest people entertaining an ardent affection for their island...The Catholics and Protestants generally lived together in the greatest harmony, undisturbed by differences in religion."8 In 1945, Thomas McCuiag wrote, "On Rathlin Island, the wheel of life revolves with uneventful regularity...In years gone past the island was entirely self supporting, growing its own food and spinning its own cloth. A familiar feature of the island landscape is the thatched cottages. These are usually whitewashed and, with painted windows and doors, make a very pleasing sight...Like the ocean which swells about its shores and the smoke which curls in tranquil solitude above its cottages, Rathlin lives its life in peace and plenty."9 The WPA index to New England naturalizations, located at the National Archives New England Branch in Waltham, Massachusetts, was searched for the most common Rathlin surname, McCurdy. Washington County Superior Court records indicate that many County Antrim McCurdys had settled in the townships of Lubec, Pembroke and Perry. Located at the mouth of the St. Croix River and at Passamaquoddy Bay, these adjacent communities partly form the northeastern corner of Maine. Further investigation of the area's 1860 Federal Census revealed at least 230 Irish natives bearing names common to Rathlin (see list below). The census also lists a number of Irish natives with names common to County Antrim: Mulholland, Mooney, Higgins, Ross, Andrews and Laughlin. (Laughlin family oral history claims that five brothers emigrated from Belfast in the nineteenth century.) A trip to the Roman Catholic graveyard in West Lubec confirmed that many of the deceased had been natives of Rathlin Island: John McQuiag, Alexander Black, Archibald Black, Elizabeth Black, Daniel McKinley, John Craig, Neal Black, Ann McQuaig, Daniel McCurdy, Alexander Horan, John Horan, Archibald Horan, James McCurdy, Neil McCurdy and Jane McCurdy. The Rathlin settlers in Maine were generally farmers, but in Washington County tradition they scraped by with a number of jobs: farming, fishing, shipbuilding and cutting timber. In addition many Pembroke residents worked at the Pembroke Iron Works. Established in 1832 along the Pennamaquan River, the water-powered iron works reputedly produced 15,000 tons of iron annually, including nails, spikes, hinges, and rivets. The plant closed in 1884; Route 1 passes directly over the site, still marked by a mill dam and a water wheel.10 What attracted these emigrants to this remote part of Maine is unclear. However, in the History of Whiting, Maine, the genealogy of Robert Black (1798-1878) claims that Black was a native of Ireland and had lived along the County Road as early as 1839.11 A number of Rathlin Island families in the Lubec 1860 census had some children born in Massachusetts or New Brunswick, and subsequent children born in Maine. These emigrants seemingly formed a home away from home, a "Little Rathlin" in Maine. This report of my research is only preliminary, and my purpose in publishing this article is to stimulate interest and a response from descendants. Further research will include the 1880 and 1900 census, vital records, naturalizations and church records. It is possible to trace these Maine families back to specific families and locales in Rathlin. For instance, several individuals are listed in the 1834 Tithe Applotment Book for Rathlin (available at NEHGS). In addition, the Roman Catholic parish registers begin in 1838, so some individuals can be identified through baptism and marriage records. Other records, such as the Spinning Wheel Survey of 1796, the List of Protestant Householders in 1740 (available at NEHGS), and the Hearth Money Rolls may extend some families further. A future article will include the results of some of this research. The remaining residents of Rathlin Island would like to contact their American cousins. If any readers think that they descend from this Washington County, Maine population, please contact Marie Daly at NEHGS. FOOTNOTES 1. The Boston Globe, July 3, 1987, vol. 232, no. 3, p. 1, col. 1, and July 4, 1987, vol. 232, no.4, p.1, col. 1. 2. Telephone interview with Kathlyn McFaul of Rathlin Island Trust, July, 1988. 3. Kathlyn McFaul, ibid. 4. Hugh Alexander Boyd, Rathlin Island, North of Antrim (Ballycastle, 1947). (Available at NEHGS) 5. J. H. Elwood, "A Demographic Study of Tory Island and Rathlin Island, 1841-1964", Ulster Folklife 17(1971): 72. (Available at BPL). 6. J. H. Elwood, ibid. 7. Hugh Alexander Boyd, ibid., and F. Estyn Evans, "Traditional Houses of Rathlin Island", Ulster Folklife 19(1973): 14. 8. Samuel Lewis, A Topographical Dictionary of Ireland, vol 2 (1837, reprint 1984), p. 502. (Available at NEHGS) 9. Hugh Alexander Boyd, ibid., p. 54. 10. Carl K. Hersey, "A History of Pembroke, Maine," in Historical Souvenir Book: Pembroke Sesquicentennial, 1832-1982. Pembroke Sesquicentennial Committee, 1982. 11. Gladys Hall Forslund, History of Whiting, Maine. Calais, Maine, 1975. Ed. Note: The original article in NEXUS also included a list of the names and ages of Irish natives in the 1860 Federal Census of Washington Co., Maine, bearing Rathlin names. While this list could not be included here due to space considerations, members may view it through NewEnglandAncestors.org at www.newenglandancestors.org/articles/research/?page_id=659&attrib1=2&seq_num=90639. View other articles from the NEHGS NEXUS at www.newenglandancestors.org/articles/research/?page_id=659&attrib1=1&seq_num=9. To subscribe or view back issues of eNews, please visit www.newenglandancestors.org/articles/research/?page_id=659&attrib1=1&seq_num=6. ===== Sharon Sergeant Ancestors and Ephemera http://GenealogyFair.com Bring Your Ancestors Home!

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