Hi, I see you post a lot of Irish info on the web. Can you give me a guess as to where in England people leaving Cork, Ireland most likely would settle? My ancestors went from Ireland to England (by 1856) and on to the US by 1867. I have no idea where in England they may have settled, but Mathias BARRY was a coal miner. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanx. Valerie Kuhn Here is a good site with ca 1880s maps of Ireland...by county. http://www.londonancestor.com/maps/maps-ireland.htm -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc.

> They cover not only Rensselaer county but many from the surrounding > counties and MA and there are over 4,000 entries. You can access them > at the Rensselaer County website at: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/troy/ > On the homepage, at the top, under Genealogy, click on > Naturalization/Citizenship. You will notice at the top of the > Naturalization webpage, I have included a new search engine to make > your search a bit easier. Link should have been: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrenss2/ -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

Here is a good site with ca 1880s maps of Ireland...by county. http://www.londonancestor.com/maps/maps-ireland.htm -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

I have transcribed and indexed the Irish born from three alien declaration films that were filed in Rensselaer County Court in Troy NY from 1859 to 1884. They cover not only Rensselaer county but many from the surrounding counties and MA and there are over 4,000 entries. You can access them at the Rensselaer County website at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/troy/ On the homepage, at the top, under Genealogy, click on Naturalization/Citizenship. You will notice at the top of the Naturalization webpage, I have included a new search engine to make your search a bit easier. I also have links to these records on my website (URL under my name), on the Troy webpage. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

THE SIDEWALKS OF NEW YORK Down in front of Casey's old brown wooden stoop On a Summer's evening we formed a merry group; Boys and girls together, we would sing and waltz While the "Ginnie" played the organ On the sidewalks of New York. That's where Johnny Casey and little Jimmie Crowe, With Jakey Krause, the baker, who always had the dough, Pretty Nellie Shannon, with a dude as light as cork, First picked up the waltz-step On the sidewalks of New York. Things have changed since those times, Some are up in the "G," Others they are wand'rers, but they all feel just like me. They'd part with all they've got could they but once more walk With their best girl and have a twirl On the sidewalks of New York. East side, west side, all around the town, The tots sang "Ring-a-rosie," "London Bridge is falling down"; Boys and girls together, me and Mamie Rorke Tripped the light fantastic On the sidewalks of New York. -- Charles B. Lawlor and James W. Blake, "The Best Loved Poems of the American People," ed Hazel Felleman (Doubleday/1936) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 6/7/2004

Dear Jean, Respectfully, this view of Irish migration in the colonial period is not accurate. If anybody had a reason to flee to America, it was the Irish-Irish who were being completely and catastrophically dispossessed in the 17th and 18th centuries rather than the Scots-Irish who could own and rent land and were relatively well off. Further, it was against the law to be Catholic in British America except for short periods in Maryland (founding to 1689), New York (1685-1689). and Pennsylvania (1730s on). Catholics in Maryland and New York were forced to Protestantism with the ascension of William of Orange in 1689, and even Lord Baltimore was forced to convert to the Established Church by 1715 at the height of the anti-Jacobite frenzy of that year. The Irish who came to the new world in the 1600s and 1700s were forced to become Protestant if they wanted to have any religious life at all, or own land to farm and eat, or rent land to farm and eat, or enter into a contract to make ! money to eat, or serve in office to get a salary to eat, or serve in the military to eat, or ... well, as you can see, to do anything at all to avoid starving to death. Catholic priests were executed (as in New York) and along with the Quakers, those who insisted on trying to practice or announce their religion openly were subject to confiscation, nose slitting, ear loppings, banishment (death by starvation), and execution. As a result, there is great sympathy in America at this time of Quakers for Catholics and Catholics for Quakers. When analysis is actually done on the basis of name and genealogy, rather than religion, this 19th century view of Irish migration in the 17th and 18th century shatters. I could convert to Buddhism tomorrow, but that won't make me Chinese. George Washington's allegedly "Scotch-Irish" cousins, the MacCarthy's of Virginia, are of course the hereditary Kings of Munster, not Argyllshire. How, then, did this mistaken view of Irish migration arise? It turns out that the "no-nothings" of the early 19th century first made these claims. Desperate to propagate an all-Anglo Saxon and all-English-speaking colonial and revolutionary myth in order to claim the country as their own, their myth-making was eagerly accepted by the politicians of the time who found it extremely useful in the newly-invented public schools to help assimilate, absorb, and train to docility the children of the newly-arriving masses of non-English speaking 'barbarians,' 'apes,' and 'riff-raff,' like the Irish. Actual colonial and revolutionary records are far more accurate. For example, English spies and Tories reported back to their English masters that "Irish is as commonly spoken in the American ranks as English," which thereby puts English speakers at about 30% of the Continental Army once you count in the Gaelic-speaking Irish from every state; the German-speakers from Pennsylvania and Virginia; the Dutch from what had been New Holland (Long Island, northern New Jersey, the Hudson Valley, and the Mohawk Valley); the French of the frontier and Louisiana; the Finns and Swedes of what had been New Sweden (parts of Delaware and New Jersey), the Spanish of what had been Spanish Florida and Louisiana, and our Algonquin and Iroquois allies. Anybody who had a serious grudge against the English went into rebellion, and that was a lot of people. Anglo Saxons and their language were a minority. The Continental Army was multi-ethnic, multi-lingual, and ready to welcome the likes of L! afayette, Von Steuben, Kosziusko, and others as valued officers even if (or because) they barely spoke English or didn't speak English at all. English was regarded as the language of the enemy - Tories and Regulars alike. And the Established Church, the Anglican Church, actually had to change its name in this country because of the hatred against it. So to come back to my main point, any analysis of Colonial ethnicity has to be done on the basis of name and genealogy, not religion. And that analysis, begun in the 1930s by Michael O'Brien but cut short by his death, has only recently been picked up again as interest in ethnicity in the last generation has replaced the rush to the melting pot. Sorting out the Irish-Irish from the Scots-Irish in order to finally obtain an accurate view of colonial migration is a huge task and it's not yet been completed. It could even said that it's barely begun. But the "no-nothing" myth that religion = ethnicity has been discredited, and I can tell you that any time I myself get back into looking at allegedly "Scotch-Irish" communities or muster rolls, I find as many or more Irish names than Scottish names. Hope that's helpful. Best, - Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: Jean R. To: IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 5:09 PM Subject: [Irish-American] Early Irish Migration to North America - "Canada Company" SNIPPET: Although Irish migration to North America peaked in the mid-to-late 19th century, the Irish had been coming to the New World in substantial numbers since the colonial era of the 18th century. The first immigrants included farmers and laborers, landless peasants, military and political prisoners deported by their government, and religious dissenters. The vast majority were poor and surprisingly, tended not to be Catholic. They belonged instead to an altogether different category called Scotch-Irish. Today's Scotch-Irish Americans are descendants of people removed from Scotland in the 17th century by the English, who sent them to Ulster, where they were expected to establish Protestantism. They had a bad time of it in Northern Ireland, however, often suffering discrimination, and in the 18th century an estimated 250,000 departed for America, settling at first in New England. Many of these immigrants paid for their passage by contracting out as indentured s! er! vants, that is, as hirelings required to repay the costs of their transatlantic journey by working for a specified length of time, usually as menial farmhands. It was a condition scarcely better than enslavement, and some indentured servants reacted by running away, vanishing into the frontier wilds where their masters had little hope of tracking them down. Newspapers such as Benjamin FRANKLIN's "Pennsylvania Gazette" were filled with advertisements offering rewards for the return of runaways, many of whom bore Irish names. Those who stuck out their term of servitude, normally about seven years, often fled the New England colonies. A popular destination was the Appalachian Mountains, where they became subsistence farmers, rather like the majority of Irish who remained in Ireland. Others went farther south, to Maryland, Virginia, the Carolinas, and Georgia. These immigrants belonged to the Irish Protestant - or Presbyterian - church, and brought to the New World a f! or! m of piety that still bore the imprint of Martin LUTHER. They attended Sabbath services that were long, severe, and strictly observed. The somber tone of those services echoed in the home, where such frivolities as theater, dancing, and card playing were frowned upon. Presbyterian beliefs influenced other denominations of American Protestants. One feature of Presbyterianism was an English legacy - extreme antipathy toward Catholics - that through the 18th century overrode the democratic principles of the colonies, some of which denied Catholics the vote. In addition, Catholics were castigated in propaganda routinely spread by ministers, teachers, and newspaper publishers. In most colonies - even Maryland, designted as a Catholic haven by its founder, LORD BALTIMORE - the minority religion could be observed only with great discretion. As late as the Revolutionary War, only about 25,000 Catholics lived in America, compared with 3.5 million Protestants. Nonetheless, prejudice in America was less severe than in Ireland, and some prominent Irish Catholics figured in early American history. One example was Charles CARROLL III of Carrollton, Maryland, the only Catholic to sign the Declaration of Independence. Another was Thomas FITZSIMMONS, the only Catholic whose signature graces the Constitution. FITZSIMMONS ! li! ved in Philadelphia, one of the first American cities to attract a sizable Irish Catholic population; by 1880 the city had 6,000 Irish Catholics, making it the largest such community in North America. At this time, many Irish immigrated to Canada, which had even more unclaimed land than the American colonies. The government of Canada (British North America) was eager to send new arrivals to out-of-the-way areas, so Irish immigrants joined other newcomers from the British Isles on the pioneer trek north and west. They were aided in this adventure by land companies, which received large grants of territory from the governoment with the stipulation that they attract settlers whom they assisted by building roads and providing services. The biggest of these land companies, the Canada Company, had obtained 2.4 million acres by 1830. A steady flow of pioneers staked claims in New Brunswick and farther north, following waterways such as the Saint John and Ottawa rivers, then fanning out along the shore. The northern shores of the Great Lakes, especially Ontario, Erie, and Huron, became major settlement areas. It was not only land companies that arranged for immigrant sett! le! ments in Canada. In the Maritime Provinces (Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, and Prince Edward Island) modest communities were often set up by individual entrepreneurs. One of the best known was Colonel Thomas TALBOT, who between 1812 and 1837 had populated the shore of Lake Erie with 50,000 pioneers. Another agent, Peter ROBINSON, a native Canadian, brought 2,000 immigrants over from Ireland in 1825 and established them in five communities north of Lake Ontario. Once they arrived, these settlers faced a difficult task. They had to cut down trees, build cabins, scrounged up farm animals, and provide for immediate needs such as food and clothing. It took three years, on average, to clear 30 acres, which meant that towns grew slowly. Between 1815 and 1850, however, hundreds of small communities - each with several mills, a few stores, and a school that oftened doubled as a church - had sprung up, enough to usher in a new era of commerce and transportation. In that same pe! ri! od, Canada's population more than tripled, reaching 2.3 million in 1851. The first of the Irish Catholics immigrants actually landed in Canada, some of them as early as the 17th century because of ties between southern Ireland and France, a Catholic nation which ruled much of Canada. In fact five percent of "New France" was Irish, as was the large portion of Newfoundland, the island province off the mainland coast. These newcomers had a rough time; most worked as fishermen, faring no better than they had as laboreres or tenant farmers in Ireland. Even after Canada's economy exoopanded in the 19th century, offering new opportunites to immigrants, few of those from Ireland could afford to travel across the enormous country. Most clung to the eastern provinces. Meanwhile, Irish Catholics had begun to arrive in the United States in large numbers. Some 300,000 had already immigrated in the years between 1800 and 1830, and in the following decade, when the failure of the potato crop devastated Ireland, the numbers swelled dramatically. - Excerpts, "The Peoples of North America/Irish Americans," J. F. Watts (1988). --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 6/7/2004 ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc.

I have transcribed the tithes for this civil parish and they can be found on my website (url under my name) under County Tipperary. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

With their permission, I have put some recent posts by Mary Heaphy and Janet Crawford to the CoTipperary mailing list into databases by surname and parish. These are transcriptions of the 1766 religious censuses of the following CofI parishes: Solohead, Bansha, Lattin, Doon, Donoghil, Toom, Mealiffe, Killevinogue and Clonoulty. There are over 2000 head of households listed. You can access them by going the County Tipperary Ireland GenWeb homepage at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip/tipperary.htm Click on the Records button. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

SNIPPET: Although Irish migration to North America peaked in the mid-to-late 19th century, the Irish had been coming to the New World in substantial numbers since the colonial era of the 18th century. The first immigrants included farmers and laborers, landless peasants, military and political prisoners deported by their government, and religious dissenters. The vast majority were poor and surprisingly, tended not to be Catholic. They belonged instead to an altogether different category called Scotch-Irish. Today's Scotch-Irish Americans are descendants of people removed from Scotland in the 17th century by the English, who sent them to Ulster, where they were expected to establish Protestantism. They had a bad time of it in Northern Ireland, however, often suffering discrimination, and in the 18th century an estimated 250,000 departed for America, settling at first in New England. Many of these immigrants paid for their passage by contracting out as indentured ser! vants, that is, as hirelings required to repay the costs of their transatlantic journey by working for a specified length of time, usually as menial farmhands. It was a condition scarcely better than enslavement, and some indentured servants reacted by running away, vanishing into the frontier wilds where their masters had little hope of tracking them down. Newspapers such as Benjamin FRANKLIN's "Pennsylvania Gazette" were filled with advertisements offering rewards for the return of runaways, many of whom bore Irish names. Those who stuck out their term of servitude, normally about seven years, often fled the New England colonies. A popular destination was the Appalachian Mountains, where they became subsistence farmers, rather like the majority of Irish who remained in Ireland. Others went farther south, to Maryland, Virginia, the Carolinas, and Georgia. These immigrants belonged to the Irish Protestant - or Presbyterian - church, and brought to the New World a for! m of piety that still bore the imprint of Martin LUTHER. They attended Sabbath services that were long, severe, and strictly observed. The somber tone of those services echoed in the home, where such frivolities as theater, dancing, and card playing were frowned upon. Presbyterian beliefs influenced other denominations of American Protestants. One feature of Presbyterianism was an English legacy - extreme antipathy toward Catholics - that through the 18th century overrode the democratic principles of the colonies, some of which denied Catholics the vote. In addition, Catholics were castigated in propaganda routinely spread by ministers, teachers, and newspaper publishers. In most colonies - even Maryland, designted as a Catholic haven by its founder, LORD BALTIMORE - the minority religion could be observed only with great discretion. As late as the Revolutionary War, only about 25,000 Catholics lived in America, compared with 3.5 million Protestants. Nonetheless, prejudice in America was less severe than in Ireland, and some prominent Irish Catholics figured in early American history. One example was Charles CARROLL III of Carrollton, Maryland, the only Catholic to sign the Declaration of Independence. Another was Thomas FITZSIMMONS, the only Catholic whose signature graces the Constitution. FITZSIMMONS li! ved in Philadelphia, one of the first American cities to attract a sizable Irish Catholic population; by 1880 the city had 6,000 Irish Catholics, making it the largest such community in North America. At this time, many Irish immigrated to Canada, which had even more unclaimed land than the American colonies. The government of Canada (British North America) was eager to send new arrivals to out-of-the-way areas, so Irish immigrants joined other newcomers from the British Isles on the pioneer trek north and west. They were aided in this adventure by land companies, which received large grants of territory from the governoment with the stipulation that they attract settlers whom they assisted by building roads and providing services. The biggest of these land companies, the Canada Company, had obtained 2.4 million acres by 1830. A steady flow of pioneers staked claims in New Brunswick and farther north, following waterways such as the Saint John and Ottawa rivers, then fanning out along the shore. The northern shores of the Great Lakes, especially Ontario, Erie, and Huron, became major settlement areas. It was not only land companies that arranged for immigrant settle! ments in Canada. In the Maritime Provinces (Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, and Prince Edward Island) modest communities were often set up by individual entrepreneurs. One of the best known was Colonel Thomas TALBOT, who between 1812 and 1837 had populated the shore of Lake Erie with 50,000 pioneers. Another agent, Peter ROBINSON, a native Canadian, brought 2,000 immigrants over from Ireland in 1825 and established them in five communities north of Lake Ontario. Once they arrived, these settlers faced a difficult task. They had to cut down trees, build cabins, scrounged up farm animals, and provide for immediate needs such as food and clothing. It took three years, on average, to clear 30 acres, which meant that towns grew slowly. Between 1815 and 1850, however, hundreds of small communities - each with several mills, a few stores, and a school that oftened doubled as a church - had sprung up, enough to usher in a new era of commerce and transportation. In that same peri! od, Canada's population more than tripled, reaching 2.3 million in 1851. The first of the Irish Catholics immigrants actually landed in Canada, some of them as early as the 17th century because of ties between southern Ireland and France, a Catholic nation which ruled much of Canada. In fact five percent of "New France" was Irish, as was the large portion of Newfoundland, the island province off the mainland coast. These newcomers had a rough time; most worked as fishermen, faring no better than they had as laboreres or tenant farmers in Ireland. Even after Canada's economy exoopanded in the 19th century, offering new opportunites to immigrants, few of those from Ireland could afford to travel across the enormous country. Most clung to the eastern provinces. Meanwhile, Irish Catholics had begun to arrive in the United States in large numbers. Some 300,000 had already immigrated in the years between 1800 and 1830, and in the following decade, when the failure of the potato crop devastated Ireland, the numbers swelled dramatically. - Excerpts, "The Peoples of North America/Irish Americans," J. F. Watts (1988). --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 6/7/2004

June 13, 2004 Boston States Migrations Family History Fair Weekend the Charles River Museum of Industry, Waltham MA Paul Bunnell will answer questions and provide reference material for Loyalist researchers from 10-4 on Sunday June 13. Those who cannot attend can also commission a search - see http://www.bunnellgenealogybooks.citymaker.com/page/page/994036.htm Dan Johnson's New Brunswick newspaper extract publications (now 99 volumes!) will also be available for research. Those who cannot attend can commission a surname search - see http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcarlet/nb_newspapers.htm Other weekend events include Sandra Devlin's talks on Friday June 11 and Sunday June 13; June 11 Ships lists, railroad history and Quebec to Massachustts video; original maps and newspapers for Halifax, Ottawa, Montreal, New York and New England. June 13 Maureen Taylor's photo identification and preservation talk; Sharon Howland's Washington County Maine and Charlotte County New Brunswick collections; Carolyn Bingham's Mayflower and Lineage Society Q&A; Patti Couture's Q&A for French Canadian research; Mariner's lookups from the Ships & Seafarer's of Atlantic Canada 500,000 records. See http://bostonstates.rootsweb.com/ for details, directions and registration. ===== Sharon Sergeant Ancestors and Ephemera http://GenealogyFair.com Bring Your Ancestors Home!

HOW PADDY STOLE THE ROPE There was once two Irish labouring men; to England they came over; They tramped about in search of work from Liverpool to Dover. Says Pat to Mick, "I'm tired of this; we're both left in the lurch; And if we don't get work, bedad, I'll go and rob a church." "What, rob a church!: says Mick to Pat; "How dare you be so vile? There's something sure to happen as you're treading down the aisle. But if you go I go with you; we'll get out safe, I hope;" So, if you'll listen, I'll tell you here how Paddy stole the rope. So off they went with theft intent, the place they wanted finding; They broke into a country church which nobody was minding. They scraped together all they could and then prepared to slope, When Paddy cries out, "Hold on, Mick, what shall we do for rope? We've got no bag to hold the swag, and e'er we get outside, With something stout and strong, my lad, the bundle must be tied." He scrambled up the belfry high to try and steal a rope, Now when Paddy up the belfry got, "Ah-hah, bedad, but stop; To get a piece that's long enough, I must climb up to the top." So, like a sailor, up he went, and near the top, says he, "I think the piece that's underneath quite long enough will be." So holding by one arm and leg, he drew his clasp knife out, An right above his big fat head he cut the rope so stout. He quite forgot it held him up, and, by the Holy Pope, Down to the bottom of the church fell Paddy and the rope. "Come out of that," says Mick to Pat, as he on the floor lay groaning, "If that's the way you cut a rope, no wonder now you're moaning. I'll show you how to cut a rope, so just lend me the knife." "Be very careful," cries out Pat, "or else you'l lose your life." He clambered up the other rope, and , like an artful thief, Instead of cutting it above, he cut it underneath. The piece fell down and left poor Mick alone up there to cope; Says he, "Bad luck unto the day when we came stealing rope." Now with Paddy groaning on the floor and Mick hung up on high, Says Pat, "Come down." "I can't," cried Mick, "for if I do, I die." The noise soon brought the beadle round, the sexton and police, And although they set poor Micky free, they gave them no release. They marched them tto the county jail where their conduct now they rue, And if they'd got no work before, they've plenty now to do; And for their ingenuity they now have larger scope Than when they broke into a church to try and steal a rope. -- Author unknown, "The Best Loved Poems of the American People," compiled and selected by Hazel Felleman (Doubleday/1936). --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 6/7/2004

or in England, or just in some UK records. Check it out at the UK National Archives Online Catalogue: http://catalogue.pro.gov.uk/ In the search box, try your surname and Ireland county, like Connors AND Tipperary and see what you get (remember to cap the AND) -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

Hi, I am sending this again, hoping someone will recognize my family and help me locate them in Limerick. Forgive me if you get this twice I am sending to all my mailing lists. Thanks, Beth First Generation ---------------------------------------- 1. MICHAEL O'CONNOR FATHER. Born in 1786 in limerick ireland. MICHAEL died in RAWDON MONTCALM PQ on 6 Jun 1847, he was 61. Buried on 6 Jun 1847 in ST. PATRICE RAWDON MONTCALM PQ. Occupation: farmer. MICHAEL married ELIZABETH BETTS WIFE. Born in 1788. ELIZABETH died in STE- JULIENNE MONTCALM PQ on 25 Nov 1862, she was 74. They had the following children: 2 i. JAMES (1817-1900) 3 ii. CATHERINE (1807->1861) 4 iii. MARY (1811-1889) iv. BEDDY. Born in 1812 in LIMERICK IRELAND. BEDDY died on 8 Jun 1834, she was 22. v. MICHAEL. Born in 1814 in LIMERICK, IRELAND. 5 vi. BRIDGET (1823-1861) vii. MARGARET. Born in 1823 in LIMERICK IRELAND. MARGARET died in RAWDON, MONTCALM PQ on 10 Sep 1837, she was 14. Buried on 11 Sep 1837 in ST. PATRICE RAWDON MONTCALM PQ. viii. ELIZABETH. Born on 8 Aug 1830 in RAWDON MONTCALM PQ. ELIZABETH died in RAWDON PQ on 2 Dec 1855, she was 25. Buried on 4 Dec 1855 in ST PATRICE RAWDON MONTCALM PQ. 6 ix. PATRICK Second Generation ---------------------------------------- 2. JAMES O'CONNOR FATHER. Born on 22 Dec 1817 in LIMERICK, IRELAND. JAMES died in BERESFORD, SOUTH DAKOTA on 13 Jan 1900, he was 82. Buried in ST.JOSEPH CEMETARY BERESFORD S.D. Occupation: FARMER. Religion: CATHOLIC. On 15 Aug 1848 when JAMES was 30, he married BRIDGET JENNINGS MOTHER, daughter of MICHAEL JENNINGS FATHER & BRIDGET DONAGHY JENNINGS MOTHER, in WEST OF MONTERAL CANADA. Born on 18 Aug 1831 in KINGS COUNTY. IRELAND. BRIDGET died in NEW LISBON WISC on 6 Jul 1906, she was 74. They had the following children: i. PATRICK (1850-1874) ii. MICHAEL (1851-1920) iii. MARY ANN (1853-1923) iv. JOSEPH CAREY (1855-1935) v. ELIZABETH (1857-1946) vi. JAMES (1860-1919) vii. SARAH (1862-1916) viii. KATIE (1863-1961) ix. JOHN JAMES (1867-1910) x. PETER (1869-1922) xi. FRANK (1872-1916) xii. JOHN (1879-1947) 3. CATHERINE O'CONNOR DAUGHTER. Born in 1807 in LIMERICK, IRELAND. CATHERINE died aft 1861, she was 54. On 14 Jun 1831 when CATHERINE was 24, she married JAMES MCCARTHY HUSBAND, son of THOMAS MCCARTHY SENIOR & BRIDGET CASEY, in ST PATRICE, RAWDON. Born in 1807. They had the following children: i. ELIZABETH ii. MARGUERITE (1845-) iii. THOMAS (1844-1847) iv. SARAH ANNE (1847-) v. CATHERINE (1838-) vi. JOHN (1842-1847) vii. JULIE 4. MARY O'CONNOR DAUGHTER. Born in 1811 in LIMERICK IRELAND. MARY died in RAWDON MONTCALMPQ on 26 Aug 1889, she was 78. Buried on 28 Aug 1889 in ST. PATRICE RAWDON. On 30 Jun 1829 when MARY was 18, she married LOUIS LEANDRE DUPUIS HUSBAND, in ST JACQUES, ST JAQUES DE L"ACHIGAN MONTCALM PQ. Born in 1805. LOUIS LEANDRE died on 9 May 1887, he was 82. They had the following children: i. BERGARNIN (1838-) ii. FRANCOIS (1847-) iii. CATHERINE (1849-) iv. MARCELLE M. (1845-1845) v. MARGUERITE (1843-1877) vi. JAMES (1834-1923) vii. MARY JULIA viii. MARY JOSEPHTE (1832-1886) ix. LOUIS (1841-1925) x. EDOUARD (1837-1877) 5. BRIDGET O'CONNOR DAUGHTER. Born in 1823 in LIMERICK, IRELAND. BRIDGET died in 1861, she was 38. In 1843 when BRIDGET was 20, she married GILBERT O'CONNOR HUSBAND. Born in 1813. GILBERT died aft 1861, he was 48. They had the following children: i. BRIDGET (1848-) ii. PATRICK (GEORGE) (1845-) iii. MICHAEL (1849-1927) iv. THOMAS v. ELIZABETH (1853-) 6. PATRICK O'CONNOR ? Born in LIMERICK, IRELAND. PATRICK married MARGUERITE GILL. They had one child: i. CATHERINE (1843-)

SNIPPET: Although many Irish came to America before 1845, most of the Irish emigrants came to escape the ravages of the famine. From 1846 to 1848, 1,700,000 Irish arrived. They were poor, uneducated, unskilled, and filled with hope for a life in the new world. What they met was not always what they had expected, but they were not defeated. Many American roads, bridges, and skyscrapers were built by immigrant Irish; and thousands of Irish immigrants distinguished themselves in the Civil War, sometimes fighting one another on opposing sides, and in one instance, at least, Irish fighting for the Confederacy praised the courage of the Union soldiers. You may want to learn more about John BARRY, Father of the American Navy, John DUNLOP, the Irish-born printer of the United States Declaration of Independence, or John Boyle O'REILLY, an Irish-American journalist and battler for civil rights in 19th century America. O'REILLY 's poetry is some of the finest, including "A White Rose," in which he penned these beautiful lines: "The red rose whispers of passion/And the white rose breathes of love/Oh, the red rose is a falcon/And the white rose is a dove/But I send you a cream-white rosebud/With a flush on its petal tips/For the love that is purest and sweetest/Has a kiss of desire on the lips." --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 6/7/2004

I have updated the surname registry on each of the following NYS County websites: Rensselaer: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrenss2/ New York: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nynewyo2/ Queens: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyqueen2/ You can find them by going to the homepage of the website and at the top, under Genealogy, click on Surnames. Please check your submission for accuracy. If you find a mistake or if your data has changed, including your email address, submit another form and put 'change' in the field where you need the change. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

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How do I access Rootsweb Archives? Jack ConnorsGenealogy wrote: >> >> >> is everyone getting e-mail I don't seem to have gotten any today >> > When in doubt, check the list's archives and if you see mail there > that you haven't received, check password central to see if you are > still subscribed. (I believe I covered this in a recent post) If you > are not getting the mail and you are subbed, then write me off list > and I'll do what I can to help you. >

> How do I access Rootsweb Archives? First you go to the Rootsweb lists' index at: http://lists.rootsweb.com Find your list. The Irish-American list is in the OTHER box, under 'Ethnic-Irish'. On the list's webpage, near the bottom are two links for the archives. http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=IRISH-AMERICAN The above link allows you to search by year, using a key word(s). http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/IRISH-AMERICAN/ Here you browse by month. Once you chose a month, you can sort the emails either by subject or date. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

is everyone getting e-mail I don't seem to have gotten any today. Beth

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