Marci,try www.kst.dit.ie/nat-arch/ that the National Archives, Bishop Street,Dublin 8 Ireland good luck M O D >From: "marci mcdonald" <marciann555@hotmail.com> >Reply-To: IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com >To: IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [Irish-American] MCDONALD, James & Margaret(McIvar) >Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 00:46:56 -0400 > >My husband's Irish Immigrants arrived in late 1840's-mid50's. Son, Michael >Patrick born in 1857 in Tremont, SchuylkillCo, PA. Michael's younger >Siblings are James, John, Lawrance. Family moved/settled in Clearfield, PA. > Family found in 1880 census-parents born in Ireland. >Trying to trace back to Ireland but no success. Searched pass. lists but >unable to them for arrival date and port, ship, departure port, Irish >county or origin. >Suggestions? >Thanks, >Marci McDonald > > > >==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== >The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service >http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ >Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. > _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

I have updated the Flynn section of my website with the 1914 NYC Death Index, which includes all the spellings of the surname and is for all five boroughs of New York City. I have also update the Flynn surname registry. You can find the Flynn section by going to the URL below my name. At my homepage, at the top, under Surnames, click on (O)Flynn. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

My McDonald connection is that my great grandfather, James McHale, born 1834 - 36 in County Mayo came to US (Pittston, PA) in 1856. His parents, in Ireland, were Thomas and Bridget McDonald McHale. Their other children were, Ann (became McNamara) who followed James to Pittston and Michael and Mary (became Corcoran), both of whom remained in Ireland.

> you forgot to include the Minogues and Brodys from Feakle!!! Gee Kate, I found your Minogue on the M webpage. However, the Brody was not there. I have posted all the Co Clare names that were in my folder, so I suggest you re-submit your Brody. If you or anyone else has question, please email me off list. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

> arrived in late 1840's-mid50's. Son, Michael Patrick born in 1857 in > Tremont, SchuylkillCo, PA. Have you found him in the 1840 and 1850 federal censuses? While 1840 only gives the head of household, the 1850 lists all members of the household. This would at the least enable you to narrow down the years he came to this country and where he lived before Tremont. Once that is done, you can check the area(s) for naturalization records and possibly a marriage record. Sometimes they give more than Ireland as place of birth. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

Thank you very much this does help. Anthony -------------- Original message -------------- > The Barony of Imokilly is in the County of Cork eastern region, in the > Parish of Middletown in the Poor Law Union of Middletown. > > Number of the sheet of the Ordnance Survey map is: 65, and 76. It is 427 > Acres, 1 R. 18 P. > > This is from the "General Alphabetical INdex To The Townlands and Towns, > Parishes and Baronies of Ireland". 1861. > > It is in the Diocese of Cloyne according to "A New Genealogical Atlas of > Ireland by Brian Mitchell published in 1986. Chuch of Ireland records date > from 1872, and Roman Catholic records date from 1822, according to "A Guide > to Irish Parish Registers" also by Brian Mitchell. > > I hope this helps. > > Pat > > Irishnana01@hotmail.com > > O'LEARY/KILGANNON: > http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/r/o/Pat-Procida/index.html > > Ireland, where 'the inevitable never happens and the unexpected constantly > occurs.' > Sir John Pentland Mahaffy > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: anthlong1@comcast.net > Reply-To: IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com > To: IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Irish-American] Robert Colbert > Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 09:06:23 +0000 > > I am researching Robert Colbert who left Cobh Queenstown in 1867 on the ship > SS > Worcester. He came to Baltimore Md with his wife Ellen and four children. He > is > in the Griffith's Valuation 1852 in imokilly Killeagh. I have just returned > from a 16 day trip to Ireland and went to Cobh Queenstown and contacted the > Mallow Heritage Center. A very nice Lady on this list also asked the Priest > in > Killeagh about Marriage records with no luck. I would like to find the > Marriage > record and Maidian name of Ellen. Any suguestions I would be thankful as to > what > I over looked. This is a great list and to those in Ireland I had the best > trip > ever. > Thanks very > much Anthony Long > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Check out the latest news, polls and tools in the MSN 2004 Election Guide! > http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. >

My husband's Irish Immigrants arrived in late 1840's-mid50's. Son, Michael Patrick born in 1857 in Tremont, SchuylkillCo, PA. Michael's younger Siblings are James, John, Lawrance. Family moved/settled in Clearfield, PA. Family found in 1880 census-parents born in Ireland. Trying to trace back to Ireland but no success. Searched pass. lists but unable to them for arrival date and port, ship, departure port, Irish county or origin. Suggestions? Thanks, Marci McDonald

Thanks for your reply. Yes I have and will continue to search for it Hi and Low till I find it. Anthony -------------- Original message -------------- > Dear Anthony Long, > Just a suggestion. Have you looked for Ellen's death certificate in > the US. It might have the names of her parents and place of birth. Nancy > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. >

Thank you for your reply. The Heritage center did not have them and I wrote to the Parish Priest and He also had nothing. But I am haveing good luck back her finding things so all things in time. Anthony -------------- Original message -------------- > > > > > >He is in the Griffith's Valuation 1852 in imokilly Killeagh. > > > What county in Ireland is this? You can see what RC records by county > and then by parish at: > http://scripts.ireland.com/ancestor/browse/counties/rcmaps/ > > >contacted the Mallow Heritage Center > > > Did they have the religious records for 'Imokilly Killegh' available to > them? > > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton > > > > > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. >

I have updated the County Mayo surname registries on the Mayo section of my website with another 40 or so names. Please check your submission for accuracy. You can find the registries by going to the URL below my name. On my homepage, at the top, under Ireland, click on County Mayo. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

SNIPPET: Readers in the Jan-Feb 1999 issue of Dublin's "Ireland of the Welcomes" magazine had some comments about Ireland: Nan SEALS, Tucson, AZ, shared: "The article in the July-Aug 1998 ussue on Dun Laoghaire brought a smile and a squeal when it arrived. I had just returned from spending the month of June touring and researching all my Irish ancestors. I had stood looking out at the Irish sea, where my Great-Grandfather John HEMPENSTALL, born in Kingstown (Dun Laoghaire) in 1823, had probably fished... The love affair with Ireland began in 1965, when I took my Irish-WY 'Da' for his one and only visit to Ireland. After returning in 1994, research was intense with the help of great people in the Heritage Centres of Dun Laoghaire, counties Wicklow and Cavan. Had 'chills' looking at the vistas from land owned by my Windgates Wicklow FARRELLS; also fishermen. Each issue of IOTW brings me closer to the time I can return to where I feel most at home." William M. GALLAGHER, Creeslough, Co. Donegal, wrote: "I am retired here in the land of my ancestors. I was born in Cleveland, OH, a longtime ago. I am trying to get in touch with my long lost GALLAGHER clan in Cleveland, OH, USA. My great-grandfather, Owen J. GALLAGHER and great-grandmother came to OH in 1853. They had a large family - James, Anne, Elizabeth, Marie, Robert Emmet and Angie. My grandfather, James, grandmother Nora PEMBROKE had four children: James, Edward, Anne M. and Terea. James is my father. I have not seen, heard or noted one iota of the rest of the family since 1927. We are having a huge GALLAGHER clan reunion this century. I would like to hear from anyone of my clan and to meet them all. There must be a huge flock out there in OH." Tina and Dale EPPERSON, Midland, GA, wrote: "My first acquaintance with the Irish, a steaming cup of Bewley's tea on a cold afternoon, on a trip with my parents 12 years ago. It was definitely love at first sight. Fortunately, my teaching post provides me with opportunities to return to the land of Joyce and Yeats. Last year I immersed myself in poetry as a participant in the first Aran Island Poetry Festival. Yet my fondest memories are of the honeymoon my husband and I spent there after Christmas, six years ago. Our first reaction was that we had made a mistake coming during the holidays because so many places were closed, but what, at first, seemed to portend disaster for our trip turned out to be quite fortuitous. The result was a restful adventure of the countryside and the warm, hospitable Irish people, 'up-close and personal." Isabel MROCZKOWSKI, Lexington, MA, shared: "Please continue with your wonderful articles on Irish literature (J. M. Synge's Inishmaan visit/"That Enquiring Man') and past stories written in Irish. Like so many Irish-Americans, I fell in love with this beautiful language of my ancestors on my last visit to Ireland in 1997 while hiking in Connemara and the highlands of Co. Kerry, listening to it spoken in prayers at church, and of course through the music. I am now learning Irish here in Boston and plan a visit next year for language/cultural studies. What a wonderful way to connect to your past. To hear Irish spoken, to see it written in publications such as yours, and to have opportunites to speak it myself has been a real joy. My appreciation of Irish literature is all the more richer because of this. Please continue, these pieces are wonderful!" Judi BROWN, Ferdinand, IN, penned: "In 1978, through a programme at my high school, I became pen-pals with a young lady in Ireland. We had so much in common. Through our letters, we became friends. In 1982, after many letters back and forth, Maebh was able to visit me, and plans were made for me to return her visit 'sometime' after I finished college. Some 16 years later, 'sometime' actually happened and I was able to visit Maebh and her family in Cobh, Co. Cork. Although I am not of Irish descent, it was like going home. We had a wonderful time visiting with them, and seeing the Ring of Kerry, Cobh Harbour, and the Heritage Centre, etc.. The kids loved the Wildlife Park at Fota, and of course we all kissed The Blarney Stone. And the scenery! No one warned us that even the stones on the ground are photogenic. I look forward to visiting Ireland again....:" --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.716 / Virus Database: 472 - Release Date: 7/5/2004

The Barony of Imokilly is in the County of Cork eastern region, in the Parish of Middletown in the Poor Law Union of Middletown. Number of the sheet of the Ordnance Survey map is: 65, and 76. It is 427 Acres, 1 R. 18 P. This is from the "General Alphabetical INdex To The Townlands and Towns, Parishes and Baronies of Ireland". 1861. It is in the Diocese of Cloyne according to "A New Genealogical Atlas of Ireland by Brian Mitchell published in 1986. Chuch of Ireland records date from 1872, and Roman Catholic records date from 1822, according to "A Guide to Irish Parish Registers" also by Brian Mitchell. I hope this helps. Pat Irishnana01@hotmail.com O'LEARY/KILGANNON: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/r/o/Pat-Procida/index.html Ireland, where 'the inevitable never happens and the unexpected constantly occurs.' Sir John Pentland Mahaffy ----Original Message Follows---- From: anthlong1@comcast.net Reply-To: IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com To: IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Irish-American] Robert Colbert Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 09:06:23 +0000 I am researching Robert Colbert who left Cobh Queenstown in 1867 on the ship SS Worcester. He came to Baltimore Md with his wife Ellen and four children. He is in the Griffith's Valuation 1852 in imokilly Killeagh. I have just returned from a 16 day trip to Ireland and went to Cobh Queenstown and contacted the Mallow Heritage Center. A very nice Lady on this list also asked the Priest in Killeagh about Marriage records with no luck. I would like to find the Marriage record and Maidian name of Ellen. Any suguestions I would be thankful as to what I over looked. This is a great list and to those in Ireland I had the best trip ever. Thanks very much Anthony Long ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. _________________________________________________________________ Check out the latest news, polls and tools in the MSN 2004 Election Guide! http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx

Dear Anthony Long, Just a suggestion. Have you looked for Ellen's death certificate in the US. It might have the names of her parents and place of birth. Nancy

I am researching Robert Colbert who left Cobh Queenstown in 1867 on the ship SS Worcester. He came to Baltimore Md with his wife Ellen and four children. He is in the Griffith's Valuation 1852 in imokilly Killeagh. I have just returned from a 16 day trip to Ireland and went to Cobh Queenstown and contacted the Mallow Heritage Center. A very nice Lady on this list also asked the Priest in Killeagh about Marriage records with no luck. I would like to find the Marriage record and Maidian name of Ellen. Any suguestions I would be thankful as to what I over looked. This is a great list and to those in Ireland I had the best trip ever. Thanks very much Anthony Long

> > >He is in the Griffith's Valuation 1852 in imokilly Killeagh. > What county in Ireland is this? You can see what RC records by county and then by parish at: http://scripts.ireland.com/ancestor/browse/counties/rcmaps/ >contacted the Mallow Heritage Center > Did they have the religious records for 'Imokilly Killegh' available to them? -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

I have updated the Ireland Books section of my website to include another 50+ books, a new section for Fiction and many new lookup volunteers. Please check your submission for accuracy. You can access the section by going to the URL below my name. On my Homepage, at the top, under Ireland, click on Ireland Books. This will bring you to the Ireland Books Discussion Mailing List website, at the bottom, you will find the links to the various book websites. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

I have updated the County Tipperary surname registries on the Tipperary section of my website with another 50 names. Please check your entry for accuracy. You can find the registries by going to the URL under my name. On my homepage, at the top, under Ireland, click on County Tipperary. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

I have updated the County Clare surname registries on the County Clare section of my website. If you submitted and entry last month, please check it for accuracy. You can find the registries by going to the URL below my name. On my homepage, at the top, under Ireland, click on County Clare. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

I have updated the O'Connor/Connors section of my website. The following databases have been added: NYC Death Index for 1924, Ireland Birth Index, 1901 for County Sligo, Rawdon, Quebec births and baptisms and a Connor family gravestone inscriptions from Omaha, Nebraska. I have also udated the surname registres with new entries. This section includes all spellings of the surname and can be found by going to the URL below my name. At the top of my homepage, under Surnames, click on O'Connor/Connors. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

SNIPPET: Margo LOCKWOOD is the author of several volumes of poetry, including "Left-Handed Happiness," "Bare Elegy," and "Black Dog." She was living in Brookline, MA, 1997, at the time she reflected on the subject of lace curtains: She admitted to feeling sometimes bothered by the term 'lace-curtain Irish.' Per Margo -- "Some Irish-Americans use it in a self-mocking way, not about themselves, but about their grandparents, perhaps, or some distant relative. I used to hear it employed to describe a section of town more wealthy and established, where people owned rather than rented their houses. It may not have been an epithet for people who wanted to better themselves or who were aping their betters. They wanted to have lace curtains up, too, but maybe all their furniture was just right out of the alley. There was a pejorative sense that people were putting up a front...." Looking back, Margo recalled - "When I was eight years old, in 1947, we lived on the second floor of a rented three-decker in a neighborhood of Brookline, MA, called Whiskey Point. My mother brought a proper frame for the starching and stretch-drying of our lace curtains from the household of a neighbor who had died. It was a long, expandable oak frame propped up on pointed legs, and there were two-inch needles that held up to six lace curtains at a time, one atop the other, so they could dry from morning till night. Kneeling on the porch floor and taking the curtains out one by one from the starch water, out from the zinc tub, I would be allowed to place the curtains on the needles. I always slipped and pricked my fingers, and there would be blood on the borders of those curtains. The lace was stiff from the starch, even when wet. You had to be quick and nimble-fingered. The material would drip on you as you positioned your outstreched arms to flip the curtain up to the top of the frame. Even if one lace curtain didn't have the little bit of red bloodstain on it, another would. To me, the lace curtain was our beauty because I never liked our furniture. It meant we would suffer to have a nice house. . The lace curtains defined us. We had to have something up at the windows over dark green canvas blackout blinds, dusty and ripped and taped, which were obigatory all during the Second World War. By the time the 40's and then the 50's were over, a political wind shifted. And there was a lot more than lace curtains blowing in the wind. The ascension of John F. KENNEDY to the White House made the press very interested in analyzing his family style. They were fascinated with the way Rose KENNEDY was supposed to be an arbiter in the ways of Irish social life. So in the papers you would read those kinds of 'tag phrases' about the Irish being used offhandedly and, in the main, not to any point. Later, in 1972, when I went to live in Dublin with my three children, I saw early models for Boston lace curtains hanging from tall windows in nearly derelict houses propped up with massive beams. The fan lights and casement windows were broken in part, and the house for generations had been reverting to tenements with many families inhabiting them. My mother came to visit and walked with me over the quays and the O'Connell Street Bridge to see the city. We had our barmbrack and tea, sitting on Bewley's velvet couches in the famous Oriental Tea Rooms, and then crossed over to the rough Northside of Dublin. The houses were still magnificent there, 18th century Georgian places, but the days when they housed high-toned Anglo-Irish 'rentiers' or English civil servants were long past. I had to visit the houses on on Capel Street and Pearse Square to order school uniforms and pay a fee to 'clothiers' or 'outfitters' who had concessions from the Christian Brothers' school where I had just enrolled my children. Many a dim gray morning I had to track through the Northside streets to find some spinster who would measure up a child for a uniform. I hated those errands, but I loved to peer into the old house fronts and see those lace curtains. They served as fashionable filters for aristocratic Liffey-side Dubliners. But in the early 70's they were frayed remnants, the scrim of the lives of the impoverished residents but they were nonetheless beautiful. My mother was bemused by the elaborate lace designs and wondered aloud how old they were. She said it was like impressive Spanish lace she'd studied in the Isabella Stewart Gardener Museum in Boston, from the 17th and 18th centuries. Lacework was honored in Ireland, and because of the flax and linen trades, it was once a cottage industry. And it made its way to the three-deckers in Irish-American neighborhoods. And who is to complain if what the lace curtains once represented is no longer there, if the lace curtains still blow in the windows on Dublin's Northside or on the Jamaica Road back porches of my memory?" -- Excerpts, "The Irish In America," eds. Coffey and Golway (1997) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 6/7/2004