Hi Nana, She was born in Burnett Co. Wi. as Amber Rice she married and went to Minneapolis with her husband P.H. O'Brien. I saw on Ancestry a Amber O'Brien on the 1910 census but I don't have the census option. That is where I got that info. I know her husband was quite a bit older than her so I thought she might be widowed. Beth Beth Orsi researching O'Connor, Morrison, Mellon, Yoquelet, Sordelet, Jordan, Jennings, Mccarthy, Dupuis, Rice, Powers, Jenkyns all e-mail scanned by Norton

Beth; looking at 1910 census right now for Minneapolis, nothing for an Amber, 134 Obriens. any idea where she was born?

thanks Kathy!!!!!!!!!!!It helps. Beth Beth Orsi researching O'Connor, Morrison, Mellon, Yoquelet, Sordelet, Jordan, Jennings, Mccarthy, Dupuis, Rice, Powers, Jenkyns all e-mail scanned by Norton

I had never heard that before about the seventh son having healing powers. My great grandmother was born three months after her father was killed in the Civil War. They say that children born after the father dies have healing powers. She actually did have ability to heal as witnessed by my father. He said that people would come from all over to have her breathe on their babies to cure them of thrush. I remember him telling me that he would see someone walking up the road carrying a baby and he would "go get grandma". They would come aknockin on the door. She would lay the baby in her lap and breathe into the babies mouth. Apparently, it worked because she had quite a reputation. I don't know if she could do any other healing but she could recite the alphabet backwards. My family originated in Northern Ireland and came to the rural South through Virginia. They are MAXWELLS, BREEDINGS, WINTONS, LYLES, GARRISONS, GRANTLANDS. She was Mary Thomas Lyle Grantland. Judy

I always heard that the 7th son of a 7th son had "second sight". Joan Earnshaw VelvetDove2002@aol.com wrote: >The 7th son of a 7th son was commonly thought to hold the power to heal >certain health issues. Thus the nickname 'Doc', as in Doctor. > > >==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== >The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service >http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ >Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. > > > > >

The 7th son of a 7th son was commonly thought to hold the power to heal certain health issues. Thus the nickname 'Doc', as in Doctor.

Hi, The only Amber O'Brien in 1910 census was 34yr old widow born in MN Parents born in MN. She was living with Paul L and Florence Pro?d? at 729 Main St Walworth S. Dakota Le Beau County. The record was difficult to read. Hope this helps, Kathy BOrsi10649@aol.com wrote: Hi, could some kind soul look up in the 1910 census an Amber O'Brien in Minn. and tell me if she is alone or has someone living with her and what it says about her. She was living in Minneapolis. Thanks Beth Beth Orsi researching O'Connor, Morrison, Mellon, Yoquelet, Sordelet, Jordan, Jennings, Mccarthy, Dupuis, Rice, Powers, Jenkyns all e-mail scanned by Norton ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers!

Hi, could some kind soul look up in the 1910 census an Amber O'Brien in Minn. and tell me if she is alone or has someone living with her and what it says about her. She was living in Minneapolis. Thanks Beth Beth Orsi researching O'Connor, Morrison, Mellon, Yoquelet, Sordelet, Jordan, Jennings, Mccarthy, Dupuis, Rice, Powers, Jenkyns all e-mail scanned by Norton

Nora, I filled in the form with as much information as I knew such as names and ages of the family, where they were living and where they were going. I also had an approximate period of years (1885/1887). They found most of the family. The 3 youngest children were not on the page they sent. I need to send another request as we are thinking that the cousins who gave me the information about my grandmother's grandparents emigrating after 1890 may have been incorrect. They may have been on the same ship and the other children may have been listed with them. Someone on another list told me to get the film from the LDS and look at it at one of their libraries and go through the whole manifest as sometimes they did not list all the family together for some reason. That is not so easy for me to do. None of my people can be found at Ellis Island as they all came before it opened. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Irishcolleen45@aol.com> To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 11:05 AM Subject: Re: Re: [Irish-American] Canadian border crossing immigrants > > Elaine, > > Thanks for the info. I stand corrected. Did you give them specific info? > > Nora > > > elaine@cyberhouse.org writes: > > > > Mary and Nora, > The National Archives will do look ups for you. They found my grandmother > and her mother and siblings on a ship list in 1887 and sent me photocopies. > I think it cost $17.50 (it was about a year ago). If they don't find the > information you do not pay. You can download the forms for requesting a > search on the NARA website. > Elaine > > > > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. > > >

Please see prior note on this resource from August 28, 2004 - Information is on aliens crossing the USA/Canadian border at ANY point along the entire border. A new card was generated each time a person crossed back and forth across the border. The photocopied cards should supply you with enough data to confirm the individual you are researching. While parents' names are not specifically asked for, names of relatives familiar to you may appear in other categories. Looking now at one of my grandmother's photocopied card from the soundexed St. Albans (VT) Canadian border crossing film set. Includes: Name of ship and class of travel, port, date, serial number. (This data will enable you to find actual ship's manifest on a second microfilm!). Family surname (soundex code later added). Person's given names and age. Traveling companions/names and ages. Various numbers/codes for record identification purposes. Place and date of issue. Place of birth. Age in years/months. Sex. Occupation. Read/Write? Language. Race. Nationality. Last permanent residence. Name and address of nearest relative or friend in country where alien came. Self ever in U.S? Y/N. From - To/Where? Passage paid by whom? (If young person, father's name may be given). Current destination/Name and complete address of relative or friend to join there. Amt. money shown. Ever arrested and deported, or excluded from admission? Purpose in coming and time remaining - permanently? Height. Color of complexion/hair/eyes. Distinguishable marks.. Additional data re seaport and date of landing, and name of steamship. Medical condition. Remarks and endorsements which may include port from which person left, etc. Even if you don't believe your relatives had any connection to Canada you should investigate these films. I was surprised to find that my Irish/English relatives initially traveled to the USA by steamer from Liverpool, got off in Canada, and then crossed the border into the USA at various points by train. Was surprised to find that the Canadian Pacific Railway not only had trains but also ships. Relatives also generated cards when they returned to England for visits, or to work or honeymoon in Canada. Jean

Elaine, Thanks for the info. I stand corrected. Did you give them specific info? Nora elaine@cyberhouse.org writes: Mary and Nora, The National Archives will do look ups for you. They found my grandmother and her mother and siblings on a ship list in 1887 and sent me photocopies. I think it cost $17.50 (it was about a year ago). If they don't find the information you do not pay. You can download the forms for requesting a search on the NARA website. Elaine

In a message dated 8/30/2004 11:34:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, nymets11@pacbell.net writes: > Neither one of > you mentioned areas HI Pat.. I am not sure of which port she entered. All I do know is she settled in Worcester, Mass. Do you happen to know if there was an age limit to those traveling... for instance if she was only 15 at the time was she allowed to travel alone? Or would she perhaps have to lie about her age to be able to travel across seas? thanks leigh

What info was obtained? Jack Lejax99@aol.com wrote: >Thanks Pat for all your info on immigration! > > >==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== >The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service >http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ >Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. > > > >

Thanks Pat for all your info on immigration!

With your permission, I will forward this to the Tipperary-L list, someone on that list would know the answer. Dan H. On Monday, August 30, 2004, at 12:32 PM, Greg Lamberson wrote: > > Hello, > > I am trying to determine if there are any naming > standards for Irish families as there are for other > ethnic groups, such as: > > First son - named after father's father > First daughter - named after mother's mother > ETC. > > Also, I am trying to confirm that the seventh son of a > seventh son of Irish descent was commonly given the > nickname "Doc." > > My ancestor is called "Doc," and he was no doctor. > Someone told me a long time ago that this was a > nickname for a seventh son of a seventh son. Can > anyone confirm this or give me ideas about how to > answer this question? > > Thanks, > > Greg Lamberson

Hello, I am trying to determine if there are any naming standards for Irish families as there are for other ethnic groups, such as: First son - named after father's father First daughter - named after mother's mother ETC. Also, I am trying to confirm that the seventh son of a seventh son of Irish descent was commonly given the nickname "Doc." My ancestor is called "Doc," and he was no doctor. Someone told me a long time ago that this was a nickname for a seventh son of a seventh son. Can anyone confirm this or give me ideas about how to answer this question? Thanks, Greg Lamberson _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush

> > >I am not sure of which port she entered. All I do know is she settled in >Worcester, Mass. > I don't know if it was this list or the NY Irish list that we got into this last week. It is hard to figure out the port, Boston would be the logical place to start looking but...who really knows. That is why I recommend you find their naturalization papers first because the *sometimes* say which port the entered. >Do you happen to know if there was an age limit to those traveling... for >instance if she was only 15 at the time was she allowed to travel alone? Or would >she perhaps have to lie about her age to be able to travel across seas? > I don't think there was, my ggrandmother's brother traveled alone at 13 years....but he could have been with a relative with a different name or a close friend and I couldn't tell just by looking at the passenger records. I have seen some real young girls and boys who look like they were on their own when I have searched passenger records. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

i would appreciate any help re my g g grandmother's immigration to the states, her name was Mary Kyle, maiden name McCulloch and I know she was in the states in 1879 many thanks in anticipation liz hamilton

What resources can I use to try to track GG Grandmother's immigration to the states from Ireland. In the 1910 Census she claims to have immigrated in the year 1900. But in the 1920 Census she claims the year 1901. Her Name was Mary Virginia Regan.. she was born 1885.,,.,so I am guessing her age to be around 15 when she immigrated. Her fathers name was John Regan but not sure if she traveled with him. Grateful to any advise Leigh

> > >What resources can I use to try to track GG Grandmother's immigration to the states from Ireland. >In the 1910 Census she claims to have immigrated in the year 1900. But in the 1920 Census she claims the year 1901. > >i would appreciate any help re my g g grandmother's immigration to the states, her name was Mary Kyle, maiden name McCulloch and I know she was in the states in 1879 > Funny, isn't it how dates and ages change on censuses? My ggrandfather said on his census he came to US in 1864, his father on his naturalizations said same and said NYC....I have searched passenger lists from 1862 to 1867 so far and haven't found them... Anyhow, back to the main questions....naturalizations papers and passenger lists are the resources to track immigration. Neither one of you mentioned areas so I think if you go to the NARA.gov (US national archives) website, click on Research Room, then click on Research Topics, you can get alot of info about what is available. If you ancestor came in through NYC in 1900-1901, they would have entered through Ellis Island. Try their website, they have a search engine where you can search for your ancestor right on line. Try searching with Steve Morse's form: http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/eidb/ellis.html -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton