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    1. FYI: Westchester County Genealogical Society program Saturday
    2. Mary
    3. Westchester County Genealogical Society P.O. Box 518 White Plains, NY 10603-0518 www.rootsweb.com/~nywcgs/ "Sleepy Hollow Cemetery – Past & Present" Presenter: Jim Logan, Sleepy Hollow Historic Fund 10 a.m. September 11, 2004 The Westchester County Genealogical Society will present a talk by Jim Logan of the Sleepy Hollow Cemetery Historic Fund on Saturday, September 11, 2004. Mr. Logan will show slides and lecture on the history of the cemetery, its residents (the famous and not so famous), and the cemetery's plans for publishing a guidebook and a history book. The meeting will start at 10:00 AM at the Aldersgate Methodist Church, 600 Broadway, Dobbs Ferry, NY. Pre-meeting networking will begin at 9:30 a.m. Guests are welcome to all of our programs; we suggest a $3.00 donation for non-members attending our meetings. ###

    09/07/2004 11:53:15
    1. More Recent Visits to Ireland
    2. Jean R.
    3. SNIPPET: Readers in the Sept-Oct 2004 issue of "Ireland of the Welcomes" magazine published in Dublin made these comments: Patricia Hughes NEISWENDER, Clifton Park, NY wrote: "I first read 'IOTW' in 1986, when my parents brought a copy of your magazine home from a visit to Ireland ... little did I realise that your magazine would become so important to me over the years. Irish culture and literature is alive and well at Shenendehowa High School in Clifton, New York State. We run a very popular course on Irish Literature. This is a 20-week semester course, which is offered to senior high school students and the total enrollment for this course is usually 350 students per year. The course syllabus covers Irish history from the early Celts to the present day: ranging form Brian BORU to Michael COLLINS; literature, including poetry and plays. For their term papers, the students research the history and culture of many topics, including Irish music and sport. 'IOTW' is a very helpful resource for the students ... they use the variety of back issues which I have accumulated over the years, to ! look up additional information for their research. Your magazine brings their topics to life and gives them additional information, which they would not necessarily find in a book or on the internet. This year was very special to me, as myself and two other teachers took 22 of our Irish Literature students to Ireland during our Spring break in April. This was a dream come true for both students and teachers. Being of 100% Irish descent myself, I could not wait to visit the land of my ancestors for the first time. It was a trip of a lifetime and we all enjoyed every minute of it. Your magazine is not only a source of information for us, but also a source of recall ... your great articles and exquisite pictures certainly do justice to the beautiful and historic country of Ireland." George A. DUNNING, JR., Dover, DE penned: "Having read letters which you have published over the years, I have always told myself that one day I would take the time to send along a few words to extol the virtues of the land that I have come to love. I made my first trip to Ireland in 1999, with my wife, daughter and her fiance. We spent ten great days exploring your country from West to East and back again. Wonderful sights, lovely people and great food were the hallmarks of our trip. Needless to say, we weren't long back in the States, when we found ourselves talking about our next trip back to the home of our ancestors - O'NEILL on my side and ROCHE on my wife's side. In 2001, a tradition began among some of our long-time friends - each summer one couple would plan a trip to Europe, making all the arrangements, staying within a certain budget and time frame. It was our turn to plan a trip last year and it was a foregone conclusion that Ireland would be our chosen de! stination ... We left from Baltimore on June 20, and spent ten days travelling from Dublin to Doolin, making several stops en route. We sampled live music most nights, and everyone, even the gourmets, loved the food we sampled. They were all stunned by the friendliness of everyone we met on the way... " Frank KEEFE, Manchester, NH wrote: "My relationship with your magazine and Ireland goes back to the 1980s. Many copies of IOTW are neatly stacked in my hallway closet. Whenever my grandchildren are doing an Irish school project or I recall something that I wish to read again - your magazines are readily available for our enjoyment. September 1980 was my first trip to Ireland. I went hoping to find my KEEFE family in County Cork. My dream was that I would find some ancestors and get to know them; we would have a wonderful reunion, taking some photographs which I could show everyone back home. However, this never happened, mainly due to the fact that I only had some very basic information about my family who happened to come from one of the largest counties in Ireland. Although, through some pure luck, I did eventually find the birth certificate of my oldest uncle. The people of Cullen and Millstreet could not have been more helpful. Some of us have stayed friends so! me 24 years later. However, sadly, some have passed away. Since that first visit, I have made at least 20 more trips 'home' to Ireland. My ten-year passport has just been renewed and as long as I can, I will be back. My subscription renewal is also on the way to you." Richard BENNETT, Vancouver, BC wrote to call attention to an error in the Jan-Feb 2004 issue about one of Kerry's and Dingle's most famous sons and pub owner - explorer Tom CREAN. He pointed out that CREAN never went anywhere near the North Pole - in fact, he never went anywhere near the Arctic. Rather, he went to the Antarctic three times, and while he did not reach the South Pole he did come within 150 miles of the Pole and was one of the last party to turn back, leaving SCOTT et al to continue. Along with EVANS and LASHLY, CREAN was the last man to see SCOTT and his party alive. Mr. BENNETT said that he intended, in the coming summer, to raise a glass in his memory in the 'South Pole Inn.' (The editor apologized for what he called 'slip-shod' editing and that he knew only too well that Tom CREAN visited Antarctica with SHACKLETON, an adventure vividly recalled in Michael SMITH's 'An Unsung Hero: Tom CREAN an Antarctic Survivor'/Collins/2000). ED & MARLENE TONER, Brick, NJ, wrote: "Thank you for your excellent magazine, and I was very pleased to see a mention of Cahirciveen/Cahersiveen in the May-June 2004 issue. We chose Cahirciveen for a family reunion, and a gathering of the Clanna TONER in 2000. It was a random selection, made after searching on the internet for an interesting place to visit. And I must say that we were not disappointed. We have six grown-up children, and eight grandchildren, and most of them were able to make it. We spent a lot of time quaffing pints and eating chicken sandwiches in O'SULLIVAN's Shebeen, and enjoying fine dining in several of the excellent retaurants down the town, as well as golfing, and general sightseeing. I wish to thank everyone with whom we had contact for their great hospitality. In particular, I want to thank Dr. Kieran O'SHEA, who opened his office after hours to treat my gout, and the chemist, who did likewise to provide me with the medicines that cleared i! t up in a day."

    09/07/2004 06:23:32
    1. Re: Jordan, Jennings,
    2. Thanks, Beth. Just thought I'd ask. Nora _BOrsi10649@aol.com_ (mailto:BOrsi10649@aol.com) writes: Hi, both my Jennings and Jordans were from Kings County. The Jordens arrived in America in 1851 going first to Illinois and then Beresford S.D. where they homesteaded. The Jennings came earlier sometime around 1830. They settled in Rawdon Quebec and then made their way thru Wisconsin to S.D. where they also homesteaded. I have not found either in Kings County yet. Beth

    09/06/2004 02:45:20
    1. Re: [Irish-American] (Irish American) Immigration
    2. Mack Magee
    3. ConnorsGenealogy nymets11@pacbell.net wrote on Sat, 04 Sep 2004 at 09:26:14 -0700 Maybe I missed something...who is doing lookups and what is the source for the lookups? Mtnblue replies: Maybe...see the August archives re: Immigration starting with Immigration by Lejax99 for the other 7 posts in the thread. -- Mack Magee mtnblue@fastmail.fm

    09/06/2004 04:13:35
    1. Added Note - Cruising The River Barrow
    2. Jean R.
    3. Added Note - I failed to mention that Mrs. IRISH lives in the State of Oregon. SNIPPET: Christine Jones IRISH, a writer on travel, local history and environmental issues for Northwestern magazines, has a piece (with many photos) in the Sept-Oct issue of "Ireland of the Welcomes" magazine published in Dublin. (Despite her surname, she states her husband is of Scandinavian descent).

    09/06/2004 03:49:07
    1. Cruising The River Barrow
    2. Jean R.
    3. SNIPPET: Christine Jones IRISH, a writer on travel, local history and environmental issues for Northwestern magazines, has a piece (with many photos) in the Sept-Oct issue of "Ireland of the Welcomes" magazine published in Dublin. (Despite her surname, she states her husband is of Scandinavian descent). After staying in Dublin city for a few days and enjoying the music in pubs and watching sailboat races on Dublin Bay, meeting friendly people at every turn, Christine and her husband, boating enthusiasts, rented a car and headed south to meet her mother's cousin, stopping in New Ross to see the replica of the famine ship "Dunbrody" that "carried Granda LYONS to America," and further south to Duncannon, where she played at the sea shore as a child. They drove on to Ballyhack to visit the remnants of a castle Grandma had described and the cemetery where her parents are buried. Taking their time, they drove through Waterford, Cork and Killarney and enjoyed the incredible beauty of the Dingle Peninsula - Dingle, its stirring music, good company in the pubs, horseback riding and sailing, gourmet or common fare to satisfy any appetite. One of the highlights of their trip was a peaceful, unhurried trip down the River Barrow on a chartered canal boat from Vicarstown, Co. Laois. They discovered that Athy, although it didn't look like much more than a string of warehouses from the bow of the boat - many of them empty witness to the once prosperous grain and malt trade on the river - was a town unspoiled and friendly. Through the locks at Athy the next morning they transitioned out of the Grand Canal and into the River Barrow, having received a few rudimentary instructions ("clean the weed catcher"). They soon mastered the simple mechanics of letting themselves through the locks, drinking in the scenery along the way. The river stretched out before them, a shimmering ribbon of green, the vistas ever changing, each more beautiful than the last. To their delight, they discovered a true river culture alive and well, the villages and towns along the Barrow having retained a deep connection to the river and they were able to tie up close to the towns along the waterfront and at no cost. An idyllic view of Carlow Castle amid overhanging trees prompted them to stretch their legs and explore the ruins of Carlow Castle. The River Barrow at Carlow town with its rushing waters at the wier, elegant bridge in the background, neat riverside houses, had still waters where they could tie up and explore the town. The town of Leighlinbridge in early October was a feast for the eyes with its colorful gardens and hanging flower baskets, and Lord Bagenal's Inn proved to be a warm and hospitable wateringhole. In Bagenalstown, they enjoyed making the acquaintance of the local lockeeper who shared many river stories. Christine found that these old lock-keepers' cottages, each with their own unique and bittersweet history, spoke to her in whispers of solitude, contentment and grace. The couple felt particularly welcome in the beautiful medieval river town of Graiguenamanagh, Co. Kilkenny, against the incredible backdrop of Brandon Hill and the Leinster mountains.where they investigated the restored Duiske Abbey and explored the lush countryside.

    09/06/2004 03:33:17
    1. Re: [Irish-American] (Irish American) Immigration
    2. ConnorsGenealogy
    3. > > >see the August archives re: Immigration starting with Immigration by Lejax99 for the other 7 posts in the thread > I checked them and the four for September...no one offered lookups. Two Sept posts were from listers asking for a lookup, which is what triggered my question. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

    09/06/2004 01:23:27
    1. Added Note -- Abbey Theatre/SYNGE's "Playboy of the Western World" -
    2. Jean R.
    3. Passing along this good suggestion from a lister -- : > Recommend everyone who has an opportunity see the play. I saw an Abbey > production of the play at the Kennedy Center some years ago and loved it. > For folks who have difficulty understanding thick brogues , recommend > reading the play first, as I did. > > Anne Green > Columbia, Maryland

    09/06/2004 01:22:56
    1. Abbey Theatre/SYNGE's "Playboy of the Western World" - Memories Past Tours - USA Tour Sept-Dec 2004 (KERRIGAN)
    2. Jean R.
    3. SNIPPET: The Abbey production of John Millington SYNGE's 'The Playboy of the Western World," directed by Ben BARNES, will tour the following U.S. cities: New Haven, Boston, New York, Chicago and Philadelphia from Fri. 24 Sept to Sun 19 Dec 2004. Website: www.abbeytheatre.ie. "SYNGE wrote of a people that he knew and loved almost a hundred years ago; but, with the instinctive genius of a true artist, he created characters which are still as recognisable today as they were then, " per Jo KERRIGAN, a freelance writer living in Macroom, Co. Cork, in her eight-page story about the history of the Abbey and its most famous play in the Sept-Oct 2004 issue of Dublin's "Ireland of the Welcomes" magazine. "SYNGE was a man who loved the natural speech and manners of the Irish peasantry and spent long periods staying with families on the West coast, on the Aran Islands, on the Blaskets, listening to conversations, watching daily routine, committing to memory all the turns and twists of their decorative and creative use of our native language. They spoke naturally in Irish; he translated it literally into the English tongue with truly delightful results." She goes on to say, "It is not always realised how different a sentence can be in Irish or English. For example, an Englishman on being asked for directions may say, 'That is the road to take;' whereas in Irish it would be something like, 'I'd say now that the best way for you to be doing it would be to go along there now until you see a small boreen on the left, but don't take that one at all, it's no good to you, just keep going on until you see a house on the right, and isn't it my own cousins's house, and he'll put you right if you're going wrong, but on beyond that a field with a brown cow in it and she might have the calf with her yet, you wouldn't know...." and so on, until you end up by being best friends and going home with him for a cup of tea. This was the way of talking which enraptured SYNGE and which he reflected as faithfully as possible in "The Playboy of the Western World" which he wrote for his friends and colleagues - Lady GREGORY, William Butler YEATS,! Lennox ROBINSON, et al - at Ireland's then very new National Theatre, the Abbey in the heart of Dublin." The magazine contains old post-bills, front-page headlines with actors' photos from a January 1912 "Philadelphia Evening Telegraph" newspaper, theatre tickets, a programme cover from the Maxine ELLIOTT Theatre, NY, 1911-12, when the Abbey Theatre Company performed "Playboy" during their first American Tour, a drawing of J. M. SYNGE by John Butler YEATS in 1905, a Programme of of the Lyric and Adelphi Theatres, Philadelphia, 1911-12. The entire cast was arrested there on "indecency charges" but later released on bail. Eventually the fuss died down; and over the years that followed the play became of the staple of the Abbey repertoire, with performances by the theaters' finest players of succeeding generations. These old photos and momentos hold a special meaning for Ms. KERRIGAN: Her "Uncle Joe" was actor J. M. KERRIGAN, born in Drumcondra, north Dublin, in 1887, a member of the fledgling national theatre. He directed some silent pictures with newly formed Film Company of Ireland, using family and friends as cast. Passionately interested in the stage, he toured America several times with the Abbey Theatre company. Jo has her uncle's worn, but treasured, 1907 copy of "Playboy," with his signature, and there is a nice photo of him accompanying the article. Mr. KERRIGAN, who died in 1964, appeared in over a hundred Hollywood films including "My Cousin Rachel." A star on Hollywood Boulevard bears his name.

    09/05/2004 10:02:36
    1. Re: [Irish-American] Re:Jordan, Jennings,
    2. Hi, both my Jennings and Jordans were from Kings County. The Jordens arrived in America in 1851 going first to Illinois and then Beresford S.D. where they homesteaded. The Jennings came earlier sometime around 1830. They settled in Rawdon Quebec and then made their way thru Wisconsin to S.D. where they also homesteaded. I have not found either in Kings County yet. Beth Beth Orsi researching O'Connor, Morrison, Mellon, Yoquelet, Sordelet, Jordan, Jennings, Mccarthy, Dupuis, Rice, Powers, Jenkyns all e-mail scanned by Norton

    09/05/2004 09:41:09
    1. Re:Jordan, Jennings,
    2. Beth, Where are your Jennings and Jordans from? My great great grandfather was Michael Jordan of Derrylahan townland Turlough Civil Parish County Mayo. A Hopkins married a Jennings in my family. I think it was Crimlin townland Turlough Civil Parish County Mayo. All would have been hatched, matched and detached from Crimlin RC Chapel. Nora Hopkins FitzGerald Searching Hopkins, Jennings, Jordan BOrsi10649@aol.com writes: > Beth Orsi > researching O'Connor, Morrison, Mellon, Yoquelet, Sordelet, Jordan, Jennings,

    09/05/2004 09:27:29
    1. Re: [Irish-American] Amber O'Brien
    2. this Alice married a Frank Doyle. When the Jennings were in Wisconsin, they lived in New Lisbon and then on to Beresford SD. Bridget Jennings was my gggrandmother and was born in Kings County. I have a cousin named Bob Jennings who might know more than I do. his e-mail is rjennings5@cox.net. Write him and tell him I gave you his e-mail. When was your Alice born and what year? And where in Canada? Beth Beth Orsi researching O'Connor, Morrison, Mellon, Yoquelet, Sordelet, Jordan, Jennings, Mccarthy, Dupuis, Rice, Powers, Jenkyns all e-mail scanned by Norton

    09/04/2004 03:33:04
    1. Re: [Irish-American] Amber O'Brien
    2. My Jennings lived in Rawdon Quebec before they went to Wisconsin and SD. But the only Alice I have was born in SD in 1885. Beth Beth Orsi researching O'Connor, Morrison, Mellon, Yoquelet, Sordelet, Jordan, Jennings, Mccarthy, Dupuis, Rice, Powers, Jenkyns all e-mail scanned by Norton

    09/04/2004 02:40:11
    1. Re: [Irish-American] Amber O'Brien
    2. Marilyn Shanahan
    3. Beth: You must admit, that is a bit of a coincidence, don't you think? Did Alice have any children, and do you know her mother and father's names? She ended up in Cumberland Wisconsin with husband Frank Fuller, but had many siblings , although I do not know their names. Alice was a common name in the mid 1800's. Thanks. Mari Shanahan ----- Original Message ----- From: <BOrsi10649@aol.com> To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [Irish-American] Amber O'Brien > My Jennings lived in Rawdon Quebec before they went to Wisconsin and SD. But > the only Alice I have was born in SD in 1885. Beth > > Beth Orsi > researching O'Connor, Morrison, Mellon, Yoquelet, Sordelet, Jordan, Jennings, > Mccarthy, Dupuis, Rice, Powers, Jenkyns > all e-mail scanned by Norton > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. > >

    09/04/2004 02:13:44
    1. Re: [Irish-American] Amber O'Brien
    2. Marilyn Shanahan
    3. Beth: Noticed you are researching Jennings. I am also looking for g grandmother Alice Jennings married to Frank Fuller. We believe she had some Canadian background. Mari Shanahan Chicago ----- Original Message ----- From: <BOrsi10649@aol.com> To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 11:11 AM Subject: [Irish-American] Amber O'Brien > Thanks everyone for all your help. Beth > Beth Orsi > researching O'Connor, Morrison, Mellon, Yoquelet, Sordelet, Jordan, Jennings, > Mccarthy, Dupuis, Rice, Powers, Jenkyns > all e-mail scanned by Norton > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. > >

    09/04/2004 01:03:50
    1. Re: [Irish-American] Ancestry help please
    2. Christi Hash
    3. You lost me..... who is Charles? Christi ----- Original Message ----- From: <JACADUNNOLOGY@aol.com> To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [Irish-American] Ancestry help please > Christi > I put it through in census and I pick up 1920 Charles age 12 > Diane > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. >

    09/04/2004 12:23:10
    1. Re: IRISH-AMERICAN-D Digest V04 #233Hartman
    2. Joseph Hartman married to Eva. They had 7 children. First child Agnes was born in the year 1895. Other children were Ann, Rose, Joseph Jr, Casey, Dottie, George. All off the above people were born and lived in Pennsylvania. I searched the Social Security Death Index for: Last Name = Hartman First Initial = J Year of Birth = 189* These are the results. I'd pay particular attention to the two who Soc. Sec. No. were issued in Penna. Hopefuly at least one will be yours. NameBirthDeathLast ResidenceLast BenefitSSNIssuedToolsOrder Record? J HARTMAN 16 Jul 1894Mar 198005255 (Manchester Center, Bennington, VT)05255 (Manchester Center, Bennington, VT)132-09-5821New YorkSS-5 Letter Add Post-em Search Ancestry.com J HARTMAN 13 May 1898Jan 196815666 (Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland, PA)(none specified)176-05-6253PennsylvaniaSS-5 Letter Add Post-em Search Ancestry.com J HARTMAN 23 Apr 1899Aug 196615613 (Apollo, Westmoreland, PA)(none specified)209-05-8715PennsylvaniaSS-5 Letter Add Post-em Search Ancestry.com J P HARTMAN 18 May 189706 May 199045501 (Springfield, Clark, OH)(none specified)298-03-1069OhioSS-5 Letter Add Post-em Search Ancestry.com J HARTMAN 21 Dec 1899Sep 196899320 (Benton City, Benton, WA)(none specified)534-22-5796WashingtonSS-5 Letter Add Post-em Search Ancestry.com J HARTMAN 28 Apr 1890Dec 196922901 (Charlottesville, Albemarle, VA)(none specified)718-16-1853Long-time or retired railroad workersSS-5 Letter Add Post-em Search Ancestry.com Beth Cherkowsky Researching Bradley, Forrester/Forrestal, Donohue, Boylan, Manning, McHugh, Cormac, Manning, Fountas, Czerkaukus, Liaundanskas, in Ireland, Russia/Lithuania, Greece, Scotland and the USA.

    09/04/2004 09:49:30
    1. Ireland Books website update
    2. ConnorsGenealogy
    3. I have updated the Ireland Books section of my website which included the Ireland Parish History Books, Local History Books, Genealogy Books, History Books, Ireland Fiction, etc. Many, where appropriate, have lookup volunteers. You can access the links to these webpages by going to the URL below my name. On my homepage, under Ireland, click on Ireland Books. The links are near the bottom of the Ireland Book Discussion Mailing List webpage. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

    09/04/2004 06:57:11
    1. Re: [Irish-American] Ancestry help please
    2. Christi I put it through in census and I pick up 1920 Charles age 12 Diane

    09/04/2004 05:38:59
    1. Re: [Irish-American] The NARA Site: How Does One...
    2. ConnorsGenealogy
    3. I forgot to say that this NARA Irish Famine database is from the books, The Famine Immigrants: Lists of Irish Immigrants Arriving at the Port of New York, 1846-1851. You would never it from the NARA website, however. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

    09/04/2004 03:38:04