I was there in summer 2002 and last year. It is very close to the World Trade Center and the whole area is very emotional. The wall area has lines of quotes/statistics having to do with the famine which I found most moving...you need time to read them all. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

This is a neat website. http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow2/Burial/down_index.htm Thanks to Don Kelly and Christina Hunt. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

I found this one today and it is especially good if your are searching in the Texas area. This is one of the 90,386 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

SNIPPET: The Irish Hunger Memorial at Battery Park, NYC, was opened July 16, 2002, by dignitaries to include President Mary McALEESE of Ireland and Mayor Michael BLOOMBERG. A focal point at the site was a famine cottage from Mayo dating back to 1820 which had been dismantled and shipped to America and rebuilt stone by stone. At the dedication of the Famine Memorial were Chris and Tom SLACK from the townland of Carrodoogan, Attymass, near Ballina, who donated the family cottage in which they were brought up. A sloping field had been created on an elevated site overlooking the Hudson River, the Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island, with NJ in the background. The field was planted with grasses, reeds, tiny wildflowers, heathers imported from Connemara and the land "corregated" to portray grassed-over furrows of a potato field. Hundreds of Irish-Americans were present for the emotional ceremony in addition to those who traveled from Attymass and the Bofield Band. Presiden! t McALEESE asked those in attendance to not only remember the tragedy of the Irish famine but to dedicate themselves to eradicating the present-day scourge of hunger. Those attending the opening included NY Governor George E. PATAKI, whose maternal grandmother came from Co. Louth. Members of the Irish Repertory Theatre gave readings. The memorial was later closed for a time for alterations and reopened June 1, 2003. .

Eilis: Can you tell me if Emly Moanmore Tipperary would be under the North or South Heritage Center jurisdiction? Thanks Mari ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eilis O'Hara" <naeireann4@yahoo.ie> To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 9:07 AM Subject: [Irish-American] Tipperary North Heritage Centre Reopening > The Tipperary North Heritage Centre will be reopening > beginning September 6, 2004. > > Here's a link to their website: > > http://www.iol.ie/~comms/tippnorth/index.htm > > Eilis O'Hara > > > ===== > Eilis O'Hara > > *No Personal E-Mails Please* > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" > your friends today! Download Messenger Now > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. > >

> Can you tell me if Emly Moanmore Tipperary would be under the North or > South Heritage Center jurisdiction? Here is the website for the Tipperary North Family History Research Centre http://www.irish-roots.net/NTipp.htm Here is the website for the Tipperary Family History Research Centre http://www.tfhr.org/ Emly and Moanmore are in the South Riding of Co. Tipperary. If in doubt, check: http://www.seanruad.com After reading both research centres websites, I think you will come to the conclusion that TFHR located in Tipperary Town, not far from Emly, is probably the answer to your question. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

I have transcribed the tithe applotments for the Civil Parish of Kilmore from County Tipperary, North Riding and for the Civil Parish of Kilmovee from County Mayo. You can find their indexes by going to the URL below my name. On my homepage, you will find links under Ireland, for both County Mayo and County Tipperary. They are listed under Land Records on the county pages. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

thanks for your time.. i received the image.... leigh

> > >Name: Joseph Hartman >Birthplace: Pennsylvania >State: PA > If you did not receive the image, if you can give where it appears in the census, maybe someone can help you. Need State, City/Town/Ward, page and/or image number. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

ok thanks again...you were very helpful

Leigh, I will tell you what the census says. Hartman, Joseph, head,63yr,M1 39yr born Pa parents born Pa he was a laborer on the pipe line. Mary, wife 54yr M1 39yr,12 children 10 living, born Pa Parents born Pa. Agnes, DTR 14yr born Pa parents born Pa Roses DTR 10yr born Pa parents born Pa lived at 69 Clinton Avenue Oakdale Borough Allegheny county Pa. Lejax99@aol.com wrote: I am so excited..after MANY attempts to find this family..even with the help of several kind people here.. I finally found them.. Will someone PLEASE send me this image from the 1910 Census! thanks so very much! Leigh Name: Joseph Hartman Birthplace: Pennsylvania State: PA Age: 63 Color: W Enumeration District: 0182 Visit: 0070 County: Allegheny Relation: Head of Household Other Residents: Relation Name Age Birth Place Wife Mary 54 Pennsylvania Daughter Agnes 14 Pennsylvania Daughter Rose 10 Pennsylvania ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage!

I am so excited..after MANY attempts to find this family..even with the help of several kind people here.. I finally found them.. Will someone PLEASE send me this image from the 1910 Census! thanks so very much! Leigh Name:   Joseph Hartman Birthplace:   Pennsylvania State:   PA Age:   63 Color:   W Enumeration District:   0182 Visit:   0070 County:   Allegheny Relation:   Head of Household Other Residents:   Relation Name Age Birth Place Wife Mary 54 Pennsylvania Daughter Agnes 14 Pennsylvania Daughter Rose 10 Pennsylvania

SNIPPET: Researchers interested in Irish emigration might look to D. H. AKENSON's book "The Irish Diaspora: A Primer" (1993) and David FITZPATRICK's "Irish Emigration, 1801-1921," (1984), in addition to many others. Per Mr. AKENSON: Emigration as a concept in Irish historical writing and social criticism has a set of connotations and contextual limitations different from those which generally apply to European writing. In the world literature, migration, which means out-migration, is joined to in-migration (or immigration) to cover the general phenomenon of human movement, usually permanent, from one region or nation to another. The conceptual apparatus is not, for the most part, emotionally loaded and, therefore, dispassionate 'laws' (or, at least, tendencies) for worldwide migration have been articulated by historians and social observers. 'Emigration' from Ireland, however, departs from thi world-based conceptual structure in several ways. First, emigration is rarely seen as being part of a general migration process in which in-migration is recognized as being as important as out-migration. Secondly, emigration is usually treated as a singularly Irish phenomenon and not as part of larger processes which, in fact, affected all of Western Europe during the same period. Third, emigration in much (though not all) of the literature is treated as something tragic, or as something for which the nation should be ashamed. A synthetic layer of 'exile' is cast over the entire phenomenon, even though it is clear that the majority of those who emigrated from Ireland did so as part of a set of conscious decisions which, in most cases, improved their life-chances. Historians of emigration in Ireland have yet to resolve two central issues of debate. the first is the extent to which emigrants from Ireland were selected. That is, did the best leave, or the dregs, and what does the answer mean for understanding the Irish society which the emigrants left behind? The second question is whether or not the large-scale migration hurt Ireland economically. On the one hand, economic historians point out the surplus labourers were siphoned off, thus reducing the number of economically dependent individuals. A counter-argument suggests that the individuals who left were those most likely to have been the recipients of social investment (especially primary education) and that their emigration effectively exported to other nations the Irish social capital invested in them. Although emigration from Ireland began in the pre-Christian era, it became a large-scale phenomenon only in the age of the first English empire, with considerable (but untallied) numbers leaving Ireland during the 17th and 18th centuries, sometimes for the Continent (the European mainland), more often for the British colonies in the western hemisphere. Mass emigration, however, began only at the close of the revolutionary and Napoleonic wars. Although sizeable emigration continues to the present day, the era of mass emigration from Ireland was from 1815 to the beginning of the First World War. A reasonable estimate is that between 1801 and 1921 at least 8 million Irish men, women, and children permanently left the country. Thus, the claim made by President Mary ROBINSON, in December 1990, that there are over all the world 70 million persons who claim as part of their cultural heritage at least partial Irish descent, is not excessive. As for destinations, a simple formulation is that, prior to the Great Famine (1845-9) Canada was the most common destination for Irish emigrants; between the Famine and the First World War, it was the United States of America; thereafter, it was Great Britain. Among the most notable characteristics of Irish emigration from 1815 to the present day is that (uniquely among European nations) Irish women were as large a part of the emigrant stream as were Irish men. This had implications both for Ireland (unlike most European countries, a surplus of single females did not develop) and for the new homelands: the numbers of women were sufficiently balanced to make it possible for Irish-born persons to marry within their own ethnic group. Per S. J. CONNOLLY - Australia received only about 5 per cent of the emigrants who left Ireland during the 19th century. These, however, made up nearly a quarter of all immigrants during that period. A proportion of Irish arrivals came by transportation, many of them being joined subsequently by wives and children. Of the remainder, a majority received some form of government assistance towards the cost of a long and expensive journey. The largest groups of emigrants came from a group of south-midland counties (Kilkenny, Tipperary, Limerick, Clare) and from south and central Ulster (Cavan, Fermanagh, Tyrone). Irish immigration peaked during the gold rush of the 1850s and fell off sharply after the 1880s. Reliance on assisted passage meant that settlement in Australia was determined less by pressures in Ireland than by the needs of the colony: there was, in particular, no great surge of migrants during the Great Famine. Closer official regulation may also help to explain why Irish settlers in Australia were more evenly distributed, both geographically and in terms of occupation and social status, than was initially the case in the United States and elsewhere. In addition their status as the second largest ethnic group (after the English) made them less vulnerable to discrimination. The legend of bushranger Ned KELLY (1854-80), along with overemphasis on transportation as a route to Australia, has encouraged a stereotype of outcast rebelliousness. Mid-19th-century statistics reveal that Irishmen were indeed over-represented among convicted criminals, but also within the police force. Most of the Irish born who achieved prominence in the early decades of Australian history were from the Protestant middle and upper classes, like Sir Richard BOURKE, governor of New South Wales 1831-8. However, Michael DWYER, Gavan DUFFY, and Daniel MANNIX, in their different ways, provided examples of what was to become an increasingly well-established pattern of pragmatic assimilation. In politics, the Irish of Australia strongly supported home rule for Ireland, but showed less enthusiasm for the separatist republicanism that later displaced it.

AGE AND AUTUMN In their autumn colours, the trees stand upright, bringing joy with their turning. When we are young we think looks more important but these soon decay, and the heart longs for more than a beautiful surface. I anticipate all we will learn, when I observe trees turning old with grace. -- Leitrim-born Mary Guckian, residing now in Dublin, "Perfume of the Soil," Swan Press/1999

In a message dated 9/8/2004 8:01:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, NEWYORK-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: >Hi all! > >Having started with a directory of Illinois genealogical resources, >Linkpendium has now finished a first pass through all US localities >and surnames worldwide. > >We have now built a directory to 1,039,142 sources of genealogical >information on the Internet. This is by far the largest >genealogical link collection on The Net. > >Nonetheless, we know we have missed many important resources. So, >again starting in IL (but working on the rest of the country and >all surnames in parallel), we are doing a second pass looking for >resources we've missed. > >YOU CAN HELP US! > >All Linkpendium's lower-level locality and surname pages include >links to a Web form that allows visitors to nominate new links. If >you visit us at: > http://www.linkpendium.com/ >please take a moment to make sure that we have links in the >appropriate categories to any Website, mailing list, or message >board that you administer. Also, if you just have a favorite site >that we've missed, PLEASE use the Web form to tell us about it. > >WHY HAVING A COMPLETE DIRECTORY IS IMPORTANT > >Obviously, a complete directory is useful to genealogists. Having >access to a categorized list of all the Cook County resources will >save genealogists a lot of Googling. > >But more importantly, in the next phase Linkpendium is going to use >the directory as input to a search engine specialized for use by >genealogists. This will allow folks to search for their ancestors >without having to dig through hundreds (and often many thousands) >of irrelevant links returned by Google. > >If we don't have a genealogical resource in the directory, we can't >make it searchable by the search engine. That's why your help in >making the directory complete is so important. > >PLEASE PASS THE WORD! > >While we're starting the second pass in Illinois, we'll be working >on the rest of the USA and surnames world-wide in parallel. If >you participate in lists or message boards frequented by other >folks who can help us index all the Internet's genealogical >resources, please feel free to tell them about what we're doing >(or just forward this letter). > >Thanks, everyone, for the help. I hope we can build something of >great value to the genealogical community. Cheers, B. > > >-- >Dr. Brian Leverich Co-moderator, soc.genealogy.methods/GENMTD-L >P.O. Box 6831, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6831 leverich@linkpendium.com

I have just opened a new section of my website to cover the (O)Boyle surname and it's variant spellings. To start with, I have pages for Name Origins and Boyle Internet Links plus some civil registration births for Counties Mayo and Cavan. If you have a website that includes data/family history etc. for the Boyle surname, if you send the link to the list, I'll pick it up and include it on my Boyle Links webpage....if you have any data that you would like to contribute, contact me off list. You can access the (O)Boyle webpage by going to the URL below my name. On my homepage, under Surnames, click on (O)Boyle. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

I have updated the Troy section of my website by: 1. updating the Troy Surname registries with new names, 2. updating the 1855 NYS Troy census with new entries, 3. adding more pages to the 1900 Fed census for Troy, surnames by alpha now up to McEntee, 4. by adding another interactive census, the 1865 NYS census for Troy, and 5. adding Troy deaths data with over 600 names donated to the website by an anonymous donor. The 1900 census by surname alphabet is slow going because there are over 100 pages to be formatted and uploaded and linked but my hope is to get it fully completed by the end of September. The 1855 and 1865 census is interactive, in that you can add entries using the forms on the webpages to contribute any census data you may have collected. Many, like myself, when searching the censuses, write all occurrences for the surnames we are searching ending up with much more info than we really need. Some of our data can unlock mysteries for others. Since neither census is on line or indexed, I think if we can all contribute what we have collected, we can then help others. Since I have mainly searched four surnames in Troy - O'Connor/Connors, Flynn, Campbell and McEntee, I have collected a lot of records. As time permits, I will eventually get all my data on line for not only the NYS censuses but the federal censuses. I hope you find it helpful. You can access the Troy section of my website, but going to the URL below my name. On my homepage, under New York State, click on Troy. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

For those of you from the Long Island area interested in learning Irish, a new semester of free Irish language classes begins tomorrow night (Thursday) at the Gerry Tobin Irish Language School in Babylon. I attach a press release below. Bua & Beannacht, - Jerry LOCAL IRISH LANGUAGE SCHOOL GOES WORLDWIDE WITH NEW AND ANCIENT TECHNOLOGIES The Gerry Tobin Irish Language School in Babylon, Long Island, New York is using a combination of new and ancient technologies to teach the Irish language around the world, for free. The School's most ancient technology is the 1500 year old Irish alphabet, a system of only 18 letters plus dots and accent marks used to represent the entire pronunciation system of the Irish language. Ingeniously, with fewer letters, this system communicates a much broader array of sounds than the English language possesses. The School's newest technology can be found on the Worldwide Web at www.scoilgaeilge.org/pronunciation.htm . Here, beginning students anywhere in the world are able to learn the entire modern pronunciation system of the Irish language from "Gearóid Ó Ceallaigh," a talking, teaching, digitized, video host with video flashcards. Meanwhile, more advanced students can join the School's Virtual Gaeltacht (or Irish-speaking district) by dropping in at the School's new website created by Madhc Mac Conmara and Séamas Ó Neachtain at www.scoilgaeilge.org , or by writing to aireacha@scoilgaeilge.org . Irish speakers and learners from a number of states and countries are already participating in the Tobin Virtual Gaeltacht. Back in the 3-dimensional world, the School's new, weekly "Mommy, Daddy, & Me" program of Irish language instruction for children of all ages and their parents will begin Thursday, 9/9/04 at 7:15PM in AOH Division 2's Hall in Babylon. Eight weekly classes for beginning and intermediate adult students and two workshops for advanced students and fluent speakers will begin at 7:45PM and 9:00PM the same night at the same location. One of the workshops will explore An File Ar Buile - Poems From America, the celebrated new book of Irish language poetry by Séamas Ó Neachtain, an American author from the Long Island Gaeltacht. The Gerry Tobin Irish Language School offers one of the most extensive Irish language instructional programs in North America. All of its classes, workshops, activities, and programs are free. Everyone with interest in the Irish language is invited to learn and have fun. For more information, call Jerry Kelly at 516-679-0465, or see the Irish Voice article at http://www.irishabroad.com/news/irishinamerica/news/IrishLanguageAliveonLongIsland.asp .

I also have family in Sleepy Hollow, Hope someone can take notes and would be very interested in a guide book. Does anyone know of a good history of Westchester County, NY? AnneMarie in soggy FL!!!

Hi Mary, Why do they always have something I am interested in when I will be away? Oh well, maybe next time. My Greartgrandparents are buried in Sleepy Hollow Cemetery. Judy Christopher ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary" <marymh@optonline.net> To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 5:53 PM Subject: [Irish-American] FYI: Westchester County Genealogical Society program Saturday > Westchester County Genealogical Society > P.O. Box 518 > White Plains, NY 10603-0518 > www.rootsweb.com/~nywcgs/ > > > "Sleepy Hollow Cemetery – Past & Present" > Presenter: Jim Logan, Sleepy Hollow Historic Fund > 10 a.m. > September 11, 2004 > > > The Westchester County Genealogical Society will present a talk by Jim > Logan of the Sleepy Hollow Cemetery Historic Fund on Saturday, September > 11, 2004. Mr. Logan will show slides and lecture on the history of the > cemetery, its residents (the famous and not so famous), and the > cemetery's plans for publishing a guidebook and a history book. > > The meeting will start at 10:00 AM at the Aldersgate Methodist Church, > 600 Broadway, Dobbs Ferry, NY. Pre-meeting networking will begin at 9:30 > a.m. Guests are welcome to all of our programs; we suggest a $3.00 > donation for non-members attending our meetings. > ### > > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. > >