I have very little information to go on: Daniel Driscoll born in County Cork - birth date aprox 1810. Married Mary Ryan who was born 1811 in Ireland. I don't know for sure if they were married in Ireland or met in the US. Daniel's place of birth was pulled from an 1899 obit of his son, Cornelius Daniel was an Engraver by trade. He showed up in Lockport NY in 1833. He and Mary Ryan were married and had a son named Timothy Driscoll who was born Lockport NY 1833. I got this information from following the family in the US Census files. Daniel and family moved to Galena Illinois in 1836, acquired land and had 7 more children while living in Illinois: Cornelius born 1838, Bridget born 1840, Margaret born 1842, Mary born 1844, Ellen born 1847, and twins Elizabeth and Philips born 1849. Daniel died in 1852 in Missouri. If anybody can place him in County Cork, find a ship he emigrated on, find information on Mary Ryan, their marriage or point me in a direction I would be thrilled. If you are related that would be fantastic. I have some decent information about the family from Galena to present day. I have run into lots of brick walls though since these names are not uncommon. I am sorting through thousands of hits. THANKS **sheila http://www.eladrin.com/Driscoll-Mcarthur/

Family History Fair to be Held October 17 During 16th Annual New York Archives Week New York's 15th annual Family History Fair will be held on Sunday, October 17, 2004 from 12:00 noon to 5:00 pm at The Graduate Center, City University of New York, 365 Fifth Avenue (at 34th Street), Manhattan. At this free event, the public will learn how to trace their family histories, preserve and interpret family documents, utilize archives and libraries in and around New York, and employ computers as tools for family history and genealogical research. Subway: 6 to 33rd Street; 34th Street on other lines. Information: 212-415-5547. The Family History Fair will feature more than forty genealogical societies, historical agencies, archival repositories, ethnic organizations, booksellers and other vendors offering exhibits and information for the family history buff. Free workshops on a variety of topics, as well as computer software demonstrations, will be held throughout the afternoon. Featured again this year is the Ancestors Road Show, hosted and coordinated by the NYC Metro Chapter of the Association of Professional Genealogists. Free, one-on-one sessions with professional genealogists will be offered to attendees who bring in a specific genealogical problem on which they need assistance. The list of exhibitors and schedule of workshops will be available at the website www.nycarchivists.org/fhf.html. The Fair is the highlight of the 16th annual New York Archives Week, a city-wide celebration of New York's diverse history being held October 10-17, 2004. The Fair is co-sponsored by the Archivists Round Table of Metropolitan New York, Inc. and Continuing Education & Public Programs, The Graduate Center, CUNY. New York Archives Week is sponsored by the Archivists Round Table and is made possible in part through the generous support of MetLife Foundation, The Lucius N. Littauer Foundation, The New York Genealogical and Biographical Society, and other donors assisting with the Family History Fair. # # #

I have just added a database of 50 assorted marriages from Glin, Newcastle and Rathkeale unions that took place between 1864-66 to the Limerick section of my website. I have it sorted by both bride and by groom. The information is from civil registrations and includes father's names and occupations, residences, witnesses and ages. You can access them by going to the URL under my name and at my homepage, at the top under Ireland, click on County Limerick. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

A BAREFOOT BOY A barefoot boy! I mark him at his play For May is here once more, and so is he, His dusty trousers, rolled half to the knee, And his bare ankles grimy, too, as they Cross-hatchings of the nettle, in array Of feverish stripes, hint vividly to me Of woody pathways winding endlessly Along the creek, where even yesterday He plunged his shrinking body -- gasped and shook -- Yet called the water "warm," with never lack Of joy. And so, half enviously I look upon this graceless barefoot and his track,. His toe stubbed -- ay, his big toe- nail knocked back Like unto the clasp of an old pocketbook. -- James Whitcomb Riley won fame as the "Hoosier Poet" He wrote much verse in pure English, but his most popular works are in the dialect of his home state, IN. The son of a lawyer, he left school after grammar school and worked as a sign painter and later as an actor in a medicine show. In his spare time he composed songs and revised plays. Returning to Greenfield, he worked on the local paper, then on the "Anderson (IN) Democrat." In 1877 he joined the "Indianapolis Journal." He began to contribute poems to several papers under an assumed name. His verses made him famous and he traveled about the country lecturing and reading his poems. Riley's remote genealogy is apparently in dispute - reaching back to Cork, Ireland or, perhaps, to an English Ryland family..

I have recently opened up a new section of my website devoted to County Kilkenny. As a starter I have added the following databases: Griffiths Valuation of the county for Boyle and Booth surnames; County Kilkenny Boyle births from Ireland civil registration; and, Castlecomer civil parish Famine emigration with over 670 name. Soon and I will a surname registry and other databases. I anyone has some they would like to contribute to the site, contact me off list. You can find the County Kilkenny section by going to the URL below my name, at the top of my homepage,under Ireland, click on County Kilkenny. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

I have updated the Newry births on my website, as usual the website will not pick up the new material till Monday morning, but you can go to the births just now by going to the Mourne page of the website, there you will see the link to them and the marriages, On the Banbridge index page there is a link to photographs of boys from Banbridge, Raymond http://www.raymondscountydownwebsite.com

Im searching for James Doyle; Born 1840-43. Tipperrery Ireland. Died 1915, Erie Pa Erie Co Poorhouse, Erie PA. Spouse Anna Burns Doyle, died in 1884 from TB in Erie PA- 28- 30 years old. Immigrated in 1836, Naturilized in 1871, lived in Albany NY. Any information on this family, would be so helpful, and Id be very greatful. There children were: anne, Mary, John James and Loretta. Anne was married to a Hodapp, Loretta to a leibel. Id also like any information on where I can find information on the town in Ireland he was from Tiperrerry, where it is ect. There is nothing on Anna his wife, unmarked grave, no funeral papers, but she may have been from Albany, the cesus puts her ther and Canada. Thank You Linda Dougan. lindadougan47@worldconnex.net ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the TBSWebMail system at mail.worldconnx.net

I Try it and it works. Dan Hogan <dhogan@porterville.k12.ca.us> wrote:Thanks for all the replies, this is a great list! Dan Hogan On Thursday, October 7, 2004, at 08:12 AM, ConnorsGenealogy wrote: >> I tried this site, but my server cannot locate it. Anyone know if >> still working? > > > I took off the end extenstion, and this works. > http://www.irishmidlandsancestry.com/ > > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton > > > > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc.

Thanks for all the replies, this is a great list! Dan Hogan On Thursday, October 7, 2004, at 08:12 AM, ConnorsGenealogy wrote: >> I tried this site, but my server cannot locate it. Anyone know if >> still working? > > > I took off the end extenstion, and this works. > http://www.irishmidlandsancestry.com/ > > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton > > > > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. >

> I tried this site, but my server cannot locate it. Anyone know if > still working? I took off the end extenstion, and this works. http://www.irishmidlandsancestry.com/ -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

Just use the <http://www.irishmidlandsancestry.com> part and you get right in. Kearney Bothwell -- For more information on the Bothwell family, check out the Bothwell Family History and Surname Resource Center at http://www.bothwell.cx On Wednesday, October 6, 2004, Dan wrote: >I tried this site, but my server cannot locate it. Anyone know if still >working? >Dan Hogan > >On Friday, January 2, 2004, at 09:12 AM, Pat Connors wrote: > >> This site has lots of good info on the two counties. While it is >> mainly a site for paid research, there are some free things that may >> be of interest if you are doing research in these two counties. >> http://www.irishmidlandsancestry.com/index4.htm >> >> -- >> Pat Connors, Sacramento CA >> http://www.connorsgenealogy.com >> Professional Genealogy Research >> All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002 >> > > >==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== >The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service >http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ >Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc.

I tried this site, but my server cannot locate it. Anyone know if still working? Dan Hogan On Friday, January 2, 2004, at 09:12 AM, Pat Connors wrote: > This site has lots of good info on the two counties. While it is > mainly a site for paid research, there are some free things that may > be of interest if you are doing research in these two counties. > http://www.irishmidlandsancestry.com/index4.htm > > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > Professional Genealogy Research > All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002 >

Hi Pat, Samhain is also the Celtic New Year, which is why devices for tairngreacht ('prophecy') like the barm breac ('speckled loaf' / barmbrack cake) and the Ivy Leaf foretell what's to happen in the coming 12 months, i.e., the complete Celtic year to follow. Also, at Samhain, humans can enter or even invade the domains of the Sí ('shee'). The Connachta did so in self defense during the reign of Ailill and Medhbh and one of them, a famed warrior by the name of Neara, is said to be still inside. Best, - Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: ConnorsGenealogy To: IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 10:33 AM Subject: [Irish-American] Irish Halloween Traditions thanks again to George of the Irish Heritage Newsletter.... IRISH HALLOWEEN TRADITIONS The Celts celebrated Halloween as Samhain, 'All Hallowtide' - the 'Feast of the Dead', when the dead revisited the mortal world. The celebration marked the end of Summer and the start of the Winter months. During the eighth century the Catholic Church designated the first day of November as 'All Saints Day ('All Hallows') - a day of commemoration for those Saints that did not have a specific day of remembrance. The night before was known as 'All Hallows Eve' which, over time, became known as Halloween. Here are the most notable Irish Halloween Traditions: Colcannon for Dinner: Boiled Potato, Curly Kale (a cabbage) and raw Onions are provided as the traditional Irish Halloween dinner. Clean coins are wrapped in baking paper and placed in the potato for children to find and keep. The Barnbrack Cake: The traditional Halloween cake in Ireland is the barnbrack which is a fruit bread. Each member of the family gets a slice. Great interest is taken in the outcome as there is a piece of rag, a coin and a ring in each cake. If you get the rag then your financial future is doubtful. If you get the coin then you can look forward to a prosperous year. Getting the ring is a sure sign of impending romance or continued happiness. The Ivy Leaf: Each member of the family places a perfect ivy leaf into a cup of water and it is then left undisturbed overnight. If, in the morning, a leaf is still perfect and has not developed any spots then the person who placed the leaf in the cup can be sure of 12 months health until the following Halloween. If not..... The Pumpkin: Carving Pumpkins dates back to the eighteenth century and to an Irish blacksmith named Jack who colluded with the Devil and was denied entry to Heaven. He was condemned to wander the earth but asked the Devil for some light. He was given a burning coal ember which he placed inside a turnip that he had gouged out. The tradition of Jack O'Lanterns was born - the bearer being the wandering blacksmith - a damned soul. Villagers in Ireland hoped that the lantern in their window would keep the wanderer away. When the Irish emigrated in millions to America there was not a great supply of turnips so pumpkins were used instead. Halloween Costumes: On Halloween night children would dress up in scary costumes and go house to house. 'Help the Halloween Party' and 'Trick or Treat' were the cries to be heard at each door. This tradition of wearing costumes also dates back to Celtic times. On the special night when the living and the dead were at their closest the Celtic Druids would dress up in elaborate costumes to disguise themselves as spirits and devils in case they encountered other devils and spirits during the night. By disguising they hoped that they would be able to avoid being carried away at the end of the night. This explains why witches, goblins and ghosts remain the most popular choices for the costumes. Snap Apple: After the visits to the neighbours the Halloween games begin, the most popula rofwhichisSnapApple.Anappleissuspendedfrom a string and children are blindfolded. The first child to get a decent bite of the apple gets to keep their prize. The same game can be played by placing apples in a basin of water and trying to get a grip on the apple without too much mess! The Bonfire: The Halloween bonfire is a tradition to encourage dreams of who your future husband or wife is going to be. The idea was to drop a cutting of your hair into the burning embers and then dream of you future loved one. Halloween was one of the Celt 'fire' celebrations. Blind Date: Blindfolded local girls would go out into the fields and pull up the first cabbage they could find. If their cabbage had a substantial amount of earth attached to the roots then there future loved one would have money. Eating the cabbage would reveal the nature of their future husband - bitter or sweet! Another way of finding your future spouse is to peel an apple in one go. If done successfully the single apple peel could be dropped on the floor to reveal the initials of the future-intended. Anti-Fairy Measures: Fairies and goblins try to collect as many souls as they can at Halloween but if they met a person who threw the dust from under their feet at the Fairy then they would be obliged to release any souls that they held captive. Holy water was sometimes anointed on farm animals to keep them safe during the night. If the animals were showing signs of ill health on All Hallows Eve then they would be spat on to try to ward off any evil spirits. Happy Halloween from Ireland! Irish Halloween Traditions - An article provided by . http://www.ireland-information.com/articles/irishhalloweentraditions.htm -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc.

The next meeting for Westchester County Genealogical Society (WCGS) is this coming Saturday at the Aldersgate Memorial United Methodist Church. Meeting starts at 10 a.m. but come earlier to network with your fellow members. Freelance writer, editor and photographer Gray Williams will present National Register Sites in Westchester County. Mr. Williams will present a slide show and lecture based on his research for the book Picturing Our Past: National Register Sites in Westchester County, composed of his own photographs and text, plus historical illustrations, of the more than 150 sites in the county. The meeting will be held at: When: Saturday, October 9, 2004 @ 10 a.m. Where: Aldersgate Memorial United Methodist Church, 600 Broadway (route 9), Dobbs Ferry, NY, USA – plenty of free parking Hope you can come on Saturday! For information about Westchester County Genealogical Society (“Westchester Connection” or Surname List), visit WCGS home page -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywcgs/ MARK THESE DATES FOR WCGS Future Meetings: Nov. 13, 2004 House Tales - Uncovering the History of your House by Beth Potter Dec 11, 2004 Holiday Party – Ancestors of Interest Jan 8, 2005 Land Records: A Gold Mine of Information by Anita Lustenberg, CG Feb. 12, 2005 Making History for Your Ancestors by WCGS member Bill Newell Mar 12, 2005 Welcome Aboard! - Passenger Lists & Those Annotations by Larry Fermi Apr 9, 2005 Changing Faces of the Croton River Valley by Chris Tompkins May 14, 2005 The Philipse Family in America: Lords and Loyalists. Presented by Joanna Pessa, Philipse Manor Hall Program Director at Philipse Manor Hall, Manor House Square, Yonkers June 11, 2005 Researching in Ireland by Donna Moughty

thanks again to George of the Irish Heritage Newsletter.... IRISH HALLOWEEN TRADITIONS The Celts celebrated Halloween as Samhain, 'All Hallowtide' - the 'Feast of the Dead', when the dead revisited the mortal world. The celebration marked the end of Summer and the start of the Winter months. During the eighth century the Catholic Church designated the first day of November as 'All Saints Day ('All Hallows') - a day of commemoration for those Saints that did not have a specific day of remembrance. The night before was known as 'All Hallows Eve' which, over time, became known as Halloween. Here are the most notable Irish Halloween Traditions: Colcannon for Dinner: Boiled Potato, Curly Kale (a cabbage) and raw Onions are provided as the traditional Irish Halloween dinner. Clean coins are wrapped in baking paper and placed in the potato for children to find and keep. The Barnbrack Cake: The traditional Halloween cake in Ireland is the barnbrack which is a fruit bread. Each member of the family gets a slice. Great interest is taken in the outcome as there is a piece of rag, a coin and a ring in each cake. If you get the rag then your financial future is doubtful. If you get the coin then you can look forward to a prosperous year. Getting the ring is a sure sign of impending romance or continued happiness. The Ivy Leaf: Each member of the family places a perfect ivy leaf into a cup of water and it is then left undisturbed overnight. If, in the morning, a leaf is still perfect and has not developed any spots then the person who placed the leaf in the cup can be sure of 12 months health until the following Halloween. If not..... The Pumpkin: Carving Pumpkins dates back to the eighteenth century and to an Irish blacksmith named Jack who colluded with the Devil and was denied entry to Heaven. He was condemned to wander the earth but asked the Devil for some light. He was given a burning coal ember which he placed inside a turnip that he had gouged out. The tradition of Jack O'Lanterns was born - the bearer being the wandering blacksmith - a damned soul. Villagers in Ireland hoped that the lantern in their window would keep the wanderer away. When the Irish emigrated in millions to America there was not a great supply of turnips so pumpkins were used instead. Halloween Costumes: On Halloween night children would dress up in scary costumes and go house to house. 'Help the Halloween Party' and 'Trick or Treat' were the cries to be heard at each door. This tradition of wearing costumes also dates back to Celtic times. On the special night when the living and the dead were at their closest the Celtic Druids would dress up in elaborate costumes to disguise themselves as spirits and devils in case they encountered other devils and spirits during the night. By disguising they hoped that they would be able to avoid being carried away at the end of the night. This explains why witches, goblins and ghosts remain the most popular choices for the costumes. Snap Apple: After the visits to the neighbours the Halloween games begin, the most popula rofwhichisSnapApple.Anappleissuspendedfrom a string and children are blindfolded. The first child to get a decent bite of the apple gets to keep their prize. The same game can be played by placing apples in a basin of water and trying to get a grip on the apple without too much mess! The Bonfire: The Halloween bonfire is a tradition to encourage dreams of who your future husband or wife is going to be. The idea was to drop a cutting of your hair into the burning embers and then dream of you future loved one. Halloween was one of the Celt 'fire' celebrations. Blind Date: Blindfolded local girls would go out into the fields and pull up the first cabbage they could find. If their cabbage had a substantial amount of earth attached to the roots then there future loved one would have money. Eating the cabbage would reveal the nature of their future husband - bitter or sweet! Another way of finding your future spouse is to peel an apple in one go. If done successfully the single apple peel could be dropped on the floor to reveal the initials of the future-intended. Anti-Fairy Measures: Fairies and goblins try to collect as many souls as they can at Halloween but if they met a person who threw the dust from under their feet at the Fairy then they would be obliged to release any souls that they held captive. Holy water was sometimes anointed on farm animals to keep them safe during the night. If the animals were showing signs of ill health on All Hallows Eve then they would be spat on to try to ward off any evil spirits. Happy Halloween from Ireland! Irish Halloween Traditions - An article provided by . http://www.ireland-information.com/articles/irishhalloweentraditions.htm -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

another Irish Halloween tale from George of the Irish Heritage Newsletter.... Tullamore, Wexford, Co Wexford In the 1880's Lord Dufferin, who was later to become British Ambassador to Paris, was on holiday at Tullamore when he saw an apparition that was later to save his life. One night, at about 2 o'clock in the morning, he woke up suddenly after being startled from a deep sleep. Getting out of bed and going to the window he saw, in the moonlight, a hunchbacked figure on the lawn staggering with the weight of a coffin-shaped object. Lord Dufferin raced downstairs, out onto the lawn, and asked the figure what he was doing, what he was carrying and what he wanted. As the man lifted his head Lord Dufferin saw that he had an extremely ugly-looking face that utterly repelled him. The figure then disappeared before his eyes. The following morning he told his host of his experience but his friend was at a complete loss to explain the strange man. Certainly there had been no reports of a ghost at Tullamore. A few years later, Lord Dufferin, by this time British Ambassador, was to attend a diplomatic function at the Grand Hotel in Paris. He waited at the lift with his secretary and the hotel manager. Just as they were about to enter the lift Lord Dufferin drew back in horror and flatly refused to enter the cage. The lift operator was the same man he had seen carrying the coffin on the lawn at his friend's house in Wexford several years previously. The lift doors closed and the cage moved up to the fifth floor. At this point the cable snapped and the cage crashed to the bottom of the shaft, killing all it's occupants. The accident was fully investigated but there was nobody who knew who the strange lift operator was.

thanks to George of the Irish Heritage newsletter.... Witch of Kilkenny- Dame Alice Kyteler Born in Kilkenny Ireland, Lady Alice or Dame Alice as she was also known was one of the first to be formally tried by the Catholic Church for Sorcery in 1324. Her crime? The Bishop of Ossory, Richard Ledrede, claimed that she and eleven of her family and friends (see list of names below) had transgressions of numerous supernatural types ranging from being heretics to having nocturnal meetings with the Devil himself among the other Unhallowed Artes they practiced. Dame Alice was also known to have a Magistellus or Demon/Familiar that came to her in the form of an animal, sometimes in the form of a cat and sometimes in the form of a large black dog (called Robin Artisson or Robin, Son of Art) with which she had sexual congress and from whom she exacted all her wealth. She and her friends and family were suspected to have both aroused feelings of love and of hatred, and to have inflicted death or disease on the bodies of the faithful (Xtians) by making use of powders, unguents, ointments, and candles of fat, which were compounded as follows. They took the entrails of cocks sacrificed to demons (Robin Artisson), certain worms, various unspecified herbs, dead men's nails, the hair, brains, and shreds of the cerements of boys who were buried unbaptized, with other ingredients, all of this was then cooked with various incants spoken aloud over a fire of oak-logs in a vessel made out of the skull of a beheaded thief. Dame Alice was accused by the Children of her former husbands of beguiling their Fathers with Sorcery and hastening their deaths by her scandalous acts and deeds which left the children destitute and impoverished. Despiste the Bishop's request that the Dame be arrested for her crimes she was left unpunished for the time being. When Bishop Ledrede did not achieve the satisfaction he desired and found his plans thwarted by Sir Arnold le Poer, the Seneschal of Kilkenny (who was probably a distant relation to Alice's fourth husband) he took matters into his own hands and demanded her to appear before him. Dame Alice, as would have been anticipated, fled instead. Foiled again, the Bishop then cited her son William for heresy. After being besought by le Poer to discontinue the matter the tables were turned on the Bishop and he was eventually imprisoned by Stephen le Poer, bailiff of Overk, and an armed posse of men. After being detained for 17 days, the Bishop was released where he continued his reign of harassment. The Bishop had the audacity to again issue a writ demanding that William appear before him but was unable to fulfill that obligation as the Bishop was called to appear himself before his own diocese in Dublin (which he neatly sidestepped claiming that to get there he must travel through Sir Arnold's lands and that would endanger his very life). The Bishop did eventually make his way there to answer to the charges that he had excommunicated Dame Alice, but found that his charges were uncited, unadmonished, and she remained unconvicted of the crime of sorcery. Although Sir Arnold was indeed humbled and a sort of peace was restored temporarily. After finding satisfaction during this latest barrage of charges, the Bishop once again tried to have the Dame seized by the Chancellor as well as the Vicar-General of the Archbishop of Dublin. Once again, Dame Alice fled, this time from Dublin, and made her way to England where she spent the rest of her days in relative peace. Unfortunately, for Petronilla Meath, Alice's maid and confidante, Fate would not be as kind. She was ordered flogged by the Bishop and even after confessing that she too was a worker of the Black Artes, though not nearly as beneficent at them as the Dame, Petronilla was made a scapegoat in the worst possible fashion. The Bishop ordered her death by fire and on 3rd November 1324, in Kilkenny, Petronilla was burnt alive, this being the first case of a death by fire for the crime of heresy. Petronilla's young daughter was shipped to England after her Mother's death and subsequently raised by Dame Alice. Before it was all done and over with even Sir Arnold le Poer, who had taken such a prominent part in the affair, was attacked. The Bishop accused him of heresy as well, then had him excommunicated, and sent to prison at Dublin Castle. The Bishop himself did not fare well and suffered from the accusation of heresy himself brought upon by his Metropolitan, Alexander de Bicknor. He (the Bishop) endured a long exile from his diocese, suffered much personal hardships, and even had his temporalities seized by the Crown as well. In 1339 his royal favour was restored but ten years later additional accusations were brought before the King against in consequence of which the temporalities were a second time taken up, and other more severe measures were threatened. The Bishop died in 1360 leaving behind a veritable wake of disturbances.

On 10/5/04 2:04 PM, "ConnorsGenealogy" <nymets11@pacbell.net> wrote: >> Maith thú, a Pháid! / Good man, Pat! >> > > Probably, this would be more appropriate :-D > Maith bean, a Pháid! > > Used my Irish-English dictionary so don't know if this is correct, but I > think you'll get the idea. I wondered how you'd respond to that. Very diplomatic! -- We will not forget! www.remember-9-11.com www.ciarancummings.com

Ah!!!! Yes, for a woman, then "Maith an bhean, a Phádraigín!" For a man, "Maith an fear, a Phádraig" or "Maith an fear, a Pháid." Best, - jerry

> > >Maith thú, a Pháid! / Good man, Pat! > Probably, this would be more appropriate :-D Maith bean, a Pháid! Used my Irish-English dictionary so don't know if this is correct, but I think you'll get the idea. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton