It's Great, Jay!!! Beth Beth Orsi researching O'Connor, Morrison, Mellon, Yoquelet, Sordelet, Jennings, Rice, Jenkyns, Dupuis, Jordan, McCarthy

In a message dated 10/13/2004 3:20:50 PM Central Daylight Time, Dottie23go@aol.com writes: I wrote St. Louis and they told me that my father's records had been checked out. He was medically retired from the Navy in 1941 and died in 1967.... I would have been the only one interested in his files so why they were checked out is beyond me. Must be misplaced. Could you tell me where in MD you found the files? My daughter's live in the DC area and I could drive to the city there in MD. They should be at the National Archives. The files in St. Louis are files made up for the retirements, etc. Annie in Minnesota

At Wednesday, 13 October 2004, Mautrav@aol.com wrote: >Jay, > >I am a member of the Godfrey Library. I went into the library website but >could not find any reference to "Portal" on the home page. Is it somewhere >else >on the website? > >Maureen N > >==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== >The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service >http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ >Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. > It is prominently featured at the top of the site: www.godfrey.org If you don't see it ... click your refresh button. That should give you the latest view of our homepage. Let me know how you like it. There is alot of Irish content on the site. Tom Thomas Jay Kemp Director Godfrey Memorial Library 134 Newfield Street Middletown, CT 06457-2534 Phone: 860-346-4375 Cell: 860-218-5479 Fax: 860-347-9874 Email: TKemp@Godfrey.org Web site: http://www.Godfrey.org

Jay, I am a member of the Godfrey Library. I went into the library website but could not find any reference to "Portal" on the home page. Is it somewhere else on the website? Maureen N

Hi List, We have launched our new "Portal". Please look at it and see if we are on the right track. Go to our website: www.Godfrey.org Click on the “Portal” Everyone can use it. It is easy to use; has the reliable data you want and need. If you are NOT a Godfrey member go to the portal and click "Go" .. .. try it out and let me know If you ARE a Godfrey Library member, go to the Portal Login with your Godfrey Library barcode The default password is: Godfrey; click on “Go” and let me know what you think. Only Godfrey Scholar Members will be able to use our licensed sites: HeritageQuest Online; 400+ Newspapers (EBSCO; ProQuest, Accessible Archives; extensive Irish holdings … Griffiths Valuation etc. The portal combines our licensed and core free content that we felt was essential/highly requested and reliable content that our researchers would want to use. You can search multiple sources at once; it keeps you logged in and it is lightning fast about getting you to the precise source you want to check. Tom Thomas Jay Kemp Director Godfrey Memorial Library 134 Newfield Street Middletown, CT 06457-2534 Phone: 860-346-4375 Cell: 860-218-5479 Fax: 860-347-9874 Email: TKemp@Godfrey.org Web site: http://www.Godfrey.org

I was just introduced to his work this week by my favorite history professor. In fact, I'm reading McCarthy's Bar to ease the pain of sorting through my Mom's estate this week. Everyone should read it. Wanda VanderVeen (whose husband is half Irish in spite of his name)

Pete McCarthy, author "McCarthy's Bar" and "Road to McCarthy's" has passed away at the age of 51. I found his books hilarious. As a matter of fact, I just took out McCarthy's Bar last week to read again.

My computer refused to let me read your message Regards M,O'Toole ----- Original Message ----- From: <IRISH-AMERICAN-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 2:00 PM Subject: IRISH-AMERICAN-D Digest V04 #264

I wrote St. Louis and they told me that my father's records had been checked out. He was medically retired from the Navy in 1941 and died in 1967.... I would have been the only one interested in his files so why they were checked out is beyond me. Must be misplaced. Could you tell me where in MD you found the files? My daughter's live in the DC area and I could drive to the city there in MD. Dottie

Note - At the Rootsweb Mailing Lists page at Rootsweb - rather than stopping at the "International" category and clicking on "Ireland" (as you do to reach many Irish lists), scroll down past "International" to the "Other" category, click on "Ethnic-Irish Mailing Lists," there you will find the IRISH-AMERICAN-L. Jean . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Procida" <irishnana02@yahoo.com> To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [Irish-American] Re: IRISH-AMERICAN-D Digest V04 #264 > Hi, > > If you go to Rootsweb.com, then mailing lists, then > Irish-American, and scroll all the way to the bottom > of the Irish American page, it lists Archives. Then > you have two choices, either search or browse. I > would choose browse, and the message you could not > read will be there, as all messages are archived. If > this isn't clear enough (I am doing it from memory) > let me know and I will try to be more specific. > --- may otoole <mayotoole@ntlworld.com> wrote: > > My computer refused to let me read your message > > Regards M,O'Toole

Anyone on this list know how to go about finding missing living persons? I've tried all the free sites, white pages, etc. Dan Hogan On Wednesday, October 13, 2004, at 12:52 PM, Pat Procida wrote: > Hi, > > If you go to Rootsweb.com, then mailing lists, then > Irish-American, and scroll all the way to the bottom > of the Irish American page, it lists Archives. Then > you have two choices, either search or browse. I > would choose browse, and the message you could not > read will be there, as all messages are archived. If > this isn't clear enough (I am doing it from memory) > let me know and I will try to be more specific. > --- may otoole <mayotoole@ntlworld.com> wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> My computer refused to let me read your message >> Regards M,O'Toole >>

Hi, If you go to Rootsweb.com, then mailing lists, then Irish-American, and scroll all the way to the bottom of the Irish American page, it lists Archives. Then you have two choices, either search or browse. I would choose browse, and the message you could not read will be there, as all messages are archived. If this isn't clear enough (I am doing it from memory) let me know and I will try to be more specific. --- may otoole <mayotoole@ntlworld.com> wrote: > > > > > My computer refused to let me read your message > Regards M,O'Toole > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <IRISH-AMERICAN-D-request@rootsweb.com> > To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-D@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 2:00 PM > Subject: IRISH-AMERICAN-D Digest V04 #264 > > > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup > Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, > etc. > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

Where is NARA in Maryland?? Thank you Mary Anne

Hi Shannon, I don't know if this will work for you, but it did for me. I got my father's military records from St. Louis .. but they stopped at 1941. He was killed in WWII in 1944, so I knew there was more info. In 2000 my sister, Mom, Aunt and I went on a big genealogy trek across 19 states, and we wound up in the National Archives in MD ... not the one in Washington, DC, but the auxilliary branch in MD. We didn't go there specifically for my father's records, in fact we wound up there by accident (wrong NARA). But while there, I enquired what WAS available .. and it turned out that their War Department Archives is there. Naturally, I thought about my father! The accidental trip to MD turned into a gold mine. I was able to get ALL of his records, ship's logs, captain's reviews of the incident, a copy of the telegram they sent, and even including two photos of his plane as it crashed into the Pacific Ocean. (I can't describe what those pictures did to me) The reason St. Louis didn't send me all of his records, is because they were stamped CONFIDENTIAL. So for all those 56 years, nobody knew what exactly happened to my father; it was kept a secret. But they are in NARA, and that is how I got them. I don't know if the records you seek are at NARA or not, but perhaps there are more than just war records. It's worth a shot? As for being a "non-direct-descendent", did you bring any verifying documents, such as your mother's uncle's death certificate, etc? also any documents that can verify that your mother is, indeed, the next of kin. Maybe if you got a notarized statement attesting to the fact that she is next of kin? I hope this helps you. Phyllis > >I'm hoping SKS on this list might have some insight on obtaining military >records from St. Louis. > >My mother has tried to obtain her maternal uncle's military records from the >National Records Center in St. Louis, but has only received "releasable >military information" based on restrictions imposed by Dept. of Defense regulations. > According to the powers that be in St. Louis, my mother is not allowed to >receive any additional information (ie. the full military file) because she does >not fall within the DOD's definition of "next of kin": unremarried widow or >widower, son, daughter, father, mother, brother or sister. > >Her uncle died in 1934. He never had children and his widow remarried a few >years after his death. She has since passed away. His parents and siblings >passed away several years ago, so there is no living "next of kin" per DOD's >definition. > >Has anyone on this list encountered this problem? If so, how was it >resolved? It doesn't make sense to me that since my mother is the closest living >relative, she would not be considered next of kin. Does this mean her uncle's >full military file is inaccessible forever? > >I'd appreciate any tips and advice on how she might be able to overcome this >problem. Thanks! >Shannon > >

I'm hoping SKS on this list might have some insight on obtaining military records from St. Louis. My mother has tried to obtain her maternal uncle's military records from the National Records Center in St. Louis, but has only received "releasable military information" based on restrictions imposed by Dept. of Defense regulations. According to the powers that be in St. Louis, my mother is not allowed to receive any additional information (ie. the full military file) because she does not fall within the DOD's definition of "next of kin": unremarried widow or widower, son, daughter, father, mother, brother or sister. Her uncle died in 1934. He never had children and his widow remarried a few years after his death. She has since passed away. His parents and siblings passed away several years ago, so there is no living "next of kin" per DOD's definition. Has anyone on this list encountered this problem? If so, how was it resolved? It doesn't make sense to me that since my mother is the closest living relative, she would not be considered next of kin. Does this mean her uncle's full military file is inaccessible forever? I'd appreciate any tips and advice on how she might be able to overcome this problem. Thanks! Shannon

I have updated the Irish books section of my website with new books and lookup volunteers. Many on the list visited Ireland over the Summer and probably brought home a new book or two. If you are like me, you needed to buy a new bag to carry them all home :-) Maybe some new parish history books have been published that is not included in the Parish History books section. So, check out the books listed and if you find you have books that are not listed, you can use the convenient form on the bottom of each page to submit them. I will then include your book with my next update. Of course, you need not be a lookup volunteer, if you list a book. Thanks to all who have made this website so successful. You can find the links at the bottom of this page: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/books/ Also, if you find a book that you might like to buy, on this page are many bookstore links, many located in Ireland. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

SNIPPET: Johnny A. KELLEY ("The Elder") died October 6, 2004, at the age of 97. This spry, wiry, elderly gentleman with crinkly eyes and friendly smile has been characterized as the very "heart and soul" of the Boston Marathon, which he last ran in 1992. The eldest child in a large Irish-American family, Johnny finished the Boston Marathon 58 times and won it twice. The West Medford, MA native, son of William, a mailman, and Bertha KELLEY, ran track in high school and later sprinted to and from the Boston Edison plant where he worked as an electrical maintenance worker until 1970. KELLEY made the U.S. Olympic Marathon team and placed 18th at the 1936 Berlin Games. He was drafted into the Army during WWII, but temporarily left his post at Fort McClellan in AL to race in the 1943 Marathan. That year, he completed the 26.2 mile event in 2 hrs. 30 min. - his fastest time. He competed in the 1948 Olympic Games in London and in other long-distance races in many places in! the world. KELLEY won the Boston Marathon in 1935 and 1945; he finished 2nd place seven times. A bronze status of a young KELLEY clasping hands with his octogenarian self was dedicated in 1993 in Newton, MA. Married four times, he outlived all but his last wife, Ginger. They resided in East Dennis. He never fathered any children but is survived by a stepson and many nephews and neices. In 1996 he carried the Olympic torch from NH to MA. He was inducted into the National Distance Running Hall of Fame and the Road Runners of America Hall of Fame and a book has been written about his life in the last few years. Interesting story is his father's parents arrived in Boston from Ireland aboard the "S. S. Marathon." Johnny, who had a positive attitude shared with others, "God has been good to me." His favorite song was "Young at Heart," sung by Frank SINATRA.

Sheila, I doubt if I have any information on your own family but research in my hometown of Norwich CT shows a number of DRISCOLLs coming over from Cork from about 1840. They were mostly laborers and railroad workers, refugees from the famine. From some tombstone records it appears that many were from the area of south western Cork near Skibbereen and Scull. According to MacLysaghts book "Surnames of Ireland," this area seems to also be the ancestral origin of the name. A book I purchased a few years ago, "Ireland to North America: emigrants from West Cork" by Joseph A. King (1994), highlights a group of emigrants from that locality to Miramichi, New Brunswick. Names mentioned include Driscoll, though he focuses on Harrigans, Ahearns and Fitzgeralds, maternal ancestors of Bing Crosby. It is a very well-written book, discussing in detail the ravages of the Great Famine in that part of Cork as well as the subsquent emigration of that group of families and their life in Canada and the US. Although the Griffiths Valuation took place around 1852, perhaps a search in it might pinpoint likely areas to look for your particular DRISCOLL family, especially if there are any other surnames you can associate with them from their home parishes. Paul Keroack, Stratford CT shi <sthayer@eladrin.com> wrote: I have very little information to go on: Daniel Driscoll born in County Cork - birth date aprox 1810. Married Mary Ryan who was born 1811 in Ireland. I don't know for sure if they were married in Ireland or met in the US. Daniel's place of birth was pulled from an 1899 obit of his son, Cornelius Daniel was an Engraver by trade. He showed up in Lockport NY in 1833. He and Mary Ryan were married and had a son named Timothy Driscoll who was born Lockport NY 1833. I got this information from following the family in the US Census files. Daniel and family moved to Galena Illinois in 1836, acquired land and had 7 more children while living in Illinois: Cornelius born 1838, Bridget born 1840, Margaret born 1842, Mary born 1844, Ellen born 1847, and twins Elizabeth and Philips born 1849. Daniel died in 1852 in Missouri. If anybody can place him in County Cork, find a ship he emigrated on, find information on Mary Ryan, their marriage or point me in a direction I would be thrilled. If you are related that would be fantastic. I have some decent information about the family from Galena to present day. I have run into lots of brick walls though since these names are not uncommon. I am sorting through thousands of hits. THANKS **sheila http://www.eladrin.com/Driscoll-Mcarthur/ ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc.

Sheila, There are many Driscoll's found on Clear Island south of Cork City. It is accessed by ferry from Baltimore, County Cork. I don't have any names, but we have a friend who is a Driscoll who inherited his grandfather's house on the island. Whether this family is part of your Daniel Driscoll's family I don't know. I would suggest that you focus on the southern County Cork area. Hope this gives you some leads. Sandra Hawley -----Original Message----- From: shi [mailto:sthayer@eladrin.com] Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 9:41 AM To: IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Irish-American] My Driscolls from County Cork I have very little information to go on: Daniel Driscoll born in County Cork - birth date aprox 1810. Married Mary Ryan who was born 1811 in Ireland. I don't know for sure if they were married in Ireland or met in the US. Daniel's place of birth was pulled from an 1899 obit of his son, Cornelius Daniel was an Engraver by trade. He showed up in Lockport NY in 1833. He and Mary Ryan were married and had a son named Timothy Driscoll who was born Lockport NY 1833. I got this information from following the family in the US Census files. Daniel and family moved to Galena Illinois in 1836, acquired land and had 7 more children while living in Illinois: Cornelius born 1838, Bridget born 1840, Margaret born 1842, Mary born 1844, Ellen born 1847, and twins Elizabeth and Philips born 1849. Daniel died in 1852 in Missouri. If anybody can place him in County Cork, find a ship he emigrated on, find information on Mary Ryan, their marriage or point me in a direction I would be thrilled. If you are related that would be fantastic. I have some decent information about the family from Galena to present day. I have run into lots of brick walls though since these names are not uncommon. I am sorting through thousands of hits. THANKS **sheila http://www.eladrin.com/Driscoll-Mcarthur/ ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc.

The place to be on Halloween is Derry- largest Halloween street festival in Europe! see www.derrycity.gov.uk/halloween ----- Original Message ----- From: "ConnorsGenealogy" <nymets11@pacbell.net> To: <IRISH-AMERICAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 3:33 PM Subject: [Irish-American] Irish Halloween Traditions > thanks again to George of the Irish Heritage Newsletter.... > > IRISH HALLOWEEN TRADITIONS > > The Celts celebrated Halloween as Samhain, 'All Hallowtide' - the 'Feast > of the Dead', when the dead revisited the mortal world. The celebration > marked the end of Summer and the start of the Winter months. > > During the eighth century the Catholic Church designated the first day of > November as 'All Saints Day ('All Hallows') - a day of commemoration for > those Saints that did not have a specific day of remembrance. The night > before was known as 'All Hallows Eve' which, over time, became known as > Halloween. > > Here are the most notable Irish Halloween Traditions: > > Colcannon for Dinner: Boiled Potato, Curly Kale (a cabbage) and raw Onions > are provided as the traditional Irish Halloween dinner. Clean coins are > wrapped in baking paper and placed in the potato for children to find and > keep. > > The Barnbrack Cake: The traditional Halloween cake in Ireland is the > barnbrack which is a fruit bread. Each member of the family gets a slice. > Great interest is taken in the outcome as there is a piece of rag, a coin > and a ring in each cake. If you get the rag then your financial future is > doubtful. If you get the coin then you can look forward to a prosperous > year. Getting the ring is a sure sign of impending romance or continued > happiness. > > The Ivy Leaf: Each member of the family places a perfect ivy leaf into a > cup of water and it is then left undisturbed overnight. If, in the > morning, a leaf is still perfect and has not developed any spots then the > person who placed the leaf in the cup can be sure of 12 months health > until the following Halloween. If not..... > > The Pumpkin: Carving Pumpkins dates back to the eighteenth century and to > an Irish blacksmith named Jack who colluded with the Devil and was denied > entry to Heaven. He was condemned to wander the earth but asked the Devil > for some light. He was given a burning coal ember which he placed inside a > turnip that he had gouged out. > > The tradition of Jack O'Lanterns was born - the bearer being the wandering > blacksmith - a damned soul. Villagers in Ireland hoped that the lantern in > their window would keep the wanderer away. When the Irish emigrated in > millions to America there was not a great supply of turnips so pumpkins > were used instead. > > Halloween Costumes: On Halloween night children would dress up in scary > costumes and go house to house. 'Help the Halloween Party' and 'Trick or > Treat' were the cries to be heard at each door. This tradition of wearing > costumes also dates back to Celtic times. On the special night when the > living and the dead were at their closest the Celtic Druids would dress up > in elaborate costumes to disguise themselves as spirits and devils in case > they encountered other devils and spirits during the night. By disguising > they hoped that they would be able to avoid being carried away at the end > of the night. This explains why witches, goblins and ghosts remain the > most popular choices for the costumes. > > Snap Apple: After the visits to the neighbours the Halloween games begin, > the most popula rofwhichisSnapApple.Anappleissuspendedfrom a string and > children are blindfolded. The first child to get a decent bite of the > apple gets to keep their prize. The same game can be played by placing > apples in a basin of water and trying to get a grip on the apple without > too much mess! > > The Bonfire: The Halloween bonfire is a tradition to encourage dreams of > who your future husband or wife is going to be. The idea was to drop a > cutting of your hair into the burning embers and then dream of you future > loved one. Halloween was one of the Celt 'fire' celebrations. > > Blind Date: Blindfolded local girls would go out into the fields and pull > up the first cabbage they could find. If their cabbage had a substantial > amount of earth attached to the roots then there future loved one would > have money. Eating the cabbage would reveal the nature of their future > husband - bitter or sweet! > > Another way of finding your future spouse is to peel an apple in one go. > If done successfully the single apple peel could be dropped on the floor > to reveal the initials of the future-intended. > > Anti-Fairy Measures: Fairies and goblins try to collect as many souls as > they can at Halloween but if they met a person who threw the dust from > under their feet at the Fairy then they would be obliged to release any > souls that they held captive. > > Holy water was sometimes anointed on farm animals to keep them safe during > the night. If the animals were showing signs of ill health on All Hallows > Eve then they would be spat on to try to ward off any evil spirits. > > Happy Halloween from Ireland! > > Irish Halloween Traditions - An article provided by > . > http://www.ireland-information.com/articles/irishhalloweentraditions.htm > > > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton > > > > > > > ==== IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List ==== > The IRISH-AMERICAN Mailing List Website and Lookup Service > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > Use this to unsub, change your subscription, links, etc. >