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    1. Re: [IRISH-AMER] Ivers/Lawlor family to Quebec abt 1825
    2. In a message dated 1/24/2007 6:15:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: >This large family of Patrick Ivers/Eivers married to Mary Lawlor left Ireland < >about 1825-27. We think they probably left from either Mayo or Clare < Kathryn, According to Irish Genealogy, a Record Finder, LAWLOR ...LALOR ...LAWLER came mostly from County Dublin, Queen's, Wicklow, Wexford. IVERS came mostly from Dublin and Louth Joan

    01/24/2007 12:34:28
    1. Re: [IRISH-AMER] "50 days till Paddy's Day" = Jameson for everyone.
    2. Crazy question and request for assistance: My name is Brian De Vale. I am a New York City Public School Principal and a traditional singer/songwriter ( I am a regular on Ceol na nGael and WRHU Irish music programs :New York's Damn Bravest, Limerick, Nil Aon Tinteann Mar Do Thinteann Fein are a few of my songs). I am going on my Brian De Vale Annual 32 County New York City Pub Crawl between Feb 17-23. Each pub I hit represents a county in Ireland based on the owner/bar staff/ patrons' home counties.. Odd as it may seem I am having a very hard time this year finding establishments owned and or operated by folks from the following counties: Antrim Carlow Derry Kildare Louth Limerick Offaly Sligo Trone Wicklow Wexford As I imagine you are on the Irish pub circuit more than most, or have contacts with them, any help you can give me in accomplishing this mission during this annual right of St. Patrick's Month preparation would be most welcome. The goal of the Brian De Vale 32 County NYC Pub Crawl is to hit a pub from each county, enjoy a pint of Guinness with someone from that county and finally to sing a song from or about that county with the folks at the bar. I will ahve my guitar and on certain evenings the great Luke Powers will be in tow with his uileann pipes. (Beidhmid ag deanamh ceol tradisiunta agus ag caint as gaelge freisin le cunamh De!) As we proceed from pub to pub we will hand out information about a group in Ireland called Build -4- Life. This charity is working to build a unit in Cork Hospital for victims of Cystic Fibrosis. At this time people from the west of Ireland have to make the long journey to Dublin for treatment and care. My cousin Joe Browne of Castleisland, Co. Kerry has a son Padraig who is afflicted with this condition and is very involved in building two houses that will be auctioned off to the highest bidder with the hope of raising enough money to fund this new CF unit at Cork Hospital. Any help you can give us is most welcome. Should you be able to provide us with the information requested- thank you. Should you be able to give some publicity to this cause-thank you. Should you wish to make a donation -please make payment payable to: Build-4-Life (you can write " Padraig Browne " in the memo) and mail to: c/o Joseph Browne Tralee Road Castleisland, Co Kerry Ireland Please feel free to share this request for assistance with your readers, fans and admirers. Mile go raibh maith agaibh, La Feile na Phadraig agaibh- Le meas- Brian De Vale

    01/24/2007 12:19:56
    1. Re: [IRISH-AMER] Colleen and American Census
    2. I used to work with a linda hess she was a librarian at a local school! sorry

    01/24/2007 11:28:39
    1. [IRISH-AMER] Ivers/Lawlor family to Quebec abt 1825
    2. This large family of Patrick Ivers/Eivers married to Mary Lawlor left Ireland about 1825-27. They settled as farmers at Tingwick, Quebec. We think they probably left from either Mayo or Clare but we have not been able to find their exact origin. We would be so grateful for help on this problem. Many thanks, Kathryn L. Smith

    01/24/2007 11:14:44
    1. [IRISH-AMER] Tracing death at sea
    2. Our great grandfather died at sea about 1858-60. He was Edward Brennan from Tullow, Carlow. b. 21 Oct 1809. married to Bridget O'Neal of the same area. They had 9 children who lived around Auburn, NY before moving westward. We are hoping to find someone to go through the newpapers at Carlow library to see if there might be some news of the death and burial at sea. Please contact me, if you can help. We would be very appreciative of your assistance, Kathryn L. Smith

    01/24/2007 11:09:19
    1. [IRISH-AMER] RANGANNA CHUMANN CARAD NA GAEILGE AR FUD AN DOMHAIN I bhFEABHRA / PHILO-CELTIC CLASSES AROUND THE WORLD IN FEBRUARY
    2. A chairde, Tá áthas ar Chumann Carad na Gaeilge fógraí a scaipeadh faoi ranganna agus imeachtaí na Gaeilge. Le bhur dtoil, insigí dúinn faoi bhur n-eachtraí ionas gur féidir linn poiblíocht shaor in aisce a dhéanamh daoibh. Tá an teachtaireacht seo ag dul amach go heagraíochtaí cultúrtha Éireannacha i Meiriceá Thuaidh agus go breis agus 160 múinteoir, scoil, agus eagraíocht na Gaeilge i Meiriceá Thuaidh amháin . Ach an t-am seo, ba mhaith linn insint daoibh thíos faoinár ranganna féin. The Philo-Celtic Society is pleased to spread the word about Irish language classes and events. Please tell us about your activities so that we can do free publicity for you. This announcement is going out to Irish cultural organizations in North America and to more than 160 Irish language teachers, schools, and organizations in North America alone. But this time, we'd like to tell you below about our own classes. Le gach dea-ghuí, Gearóid Ó Ceallaigh / Jerry Kelly Rúnaí Fógraíochta / Publicity Secretary Cumann Carad na Gaeilge / The Philo-Celtic Society www.philo-celtic.com FÓGRA / ANNOUNCEMENT RÉ: RANGANNA CHUMANN CARAD NA GAEILGE AR FUD AN DOMHAIN I MÍ FEABHRA RE: PHILO-CELTIC CLASSES AROUND THE WORLD IN FEBRUARY A chairde, Tosóidh Cumann Carad na Gaeilge ranganna na Gaeilge saor in aisce ar an idirlíon i mí Feabhra ag <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/philo-celticsociety/> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/philo-celticsociety/ . Sa chaoi seo, is féidir leis an gCumann múineadh ar fud an domhain, ag leanúint traidisiúna de 135 bliain. / The Philo-Celtic Society will begin free Irish language classes on the internet in February at <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/philo-celticsociety/> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/philo-celticsociety/ . In this way, the Society can teach throughout the world, following a 135 year old tradition. Thosaigh Mícheál Ó Lócháin an chéad "Philo-Celtic Class" agus bunús Chumann Carad na Gaeilge i mBrúiclinn ag Scoil Our Lady Of Victory i 1872. Idir 1872 agus 1899, d'fhás an Cumann ar fud Meiriceá. Bhunaigh Dubhghlas de hÍde Conradh na Gaeilge in Éirinn i 1893 ag baint áise as an gCumann agus a ranganna cáiliúla mar shamhail, agus mhúin Conradh na Gaeilge an ghlúin a chuaigh chun tosaigh i dtionscnamh stáit nua-aimseartha na hÉireann. / Mícheál Ó Lócháin started the first "Philo-Celtic Class" and the foundation of The Philo-Celtic Society in Brooklyn at Our Lady Of Victory School in 1872. Between 1872 and 1899, the Society grew throughout America. Douglas Hyde founded The Gaelic League in Ireland in 1893 using Philo-Celtic and its famous classes as a model, and The Gaelic League taught the generation which led in the establishment of the modern Irish state. Ach tháinig meath ar Chumann Carad na Gaeilge sa 20ú haois go dtí nach raibh ach an bun-eagraíocht ann fós. Anois, áfach, tá Cumann Carad na Gaeilge ag fairsingiú arís agus ag obair leis an gcuspóir seo: "tacaíocht, neartú, cothú, cleachtadh, craobhscaoileadh, fairsingiú, múineadh agus athbheochan na Gaeilge mar theanga bheo i measc Chlann na nGael agus charad na nGael, i Meiriceá agus ar fud an domhain." / But The Philo-Celtic Society declined in the 20th century until only the original organization still existed. Now, however, The Philo-Celtic Society is expanding again and working with this goal: "the support, strengthening, promotion, encouragement, practice, broadcast, expansion, teaching, and renaissance of the Irish language as a living language amongst the Children of the Gaeil and friends of the Gaeil in America and throughout the world." Tá scoláirí nua cláraithe cheana féin dosna ranganna seo ón mBrasail, ón Astráil, ón Fhrainc, ó Phoblacht na Seice, ó Shasana, ó Cheanada, agus ó na Stáit Aontaithe. / New students are already registered for these classes from Brazil, Australia, France, the Czech Republic, England, Canada, and the United States. Do bhreis eolais agus chun páirt a ghlacadh mar scoláire nó mar mhúinteoir i ranganna Gaeilge saoire ag tosú i mí bhFeabhra, téigh go <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/philo-celticsociety/> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/philo-celticsociety/ . Beidh an-fháilte romhat. / For more information and to take part as a student or as a teacher in free Irish language classes starting in February, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/philo-celticsociety/. You will be most welcome.

    01/24/2007 10:37:25
    1. [IRISH-AMER] "Marine Register" - Birth/Death Irish Subjects at Sea
    2. Jean R.
    3. MARITIME RECORDS: From 1864 up to the present, the General Register Office has kept a separate 'Marine Register' of births and deaths of Irish subjects which took place at sea. From 1886 only, a printed index to this register is bound into the back of the births and death index for each year. For earlier registers, the indexes have to be requested from the staff in the Office. No separate register was kept for marriages at sea. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 3:09 PM Subject: [IRISH-AMER] Tracing death at sea > Our great grandfather died at sea about 1858-60. He was Edward Brennan > from > Tullow, Carlow. b. 21 Oct 1809. married to Bridget O'Neal of the same > area. > They had 9 children who lived around Auburn, NY before moving westward. We > are > hoping to find someone to go through the newpapers at Carlow library to > see if > there might be some news of the death and burial at sea. > > Please contact me, if you can help. We would be very appreciative of > your > assistance, > > Kathryn L. Smith > > ====Irish American Mailing List=====

    01/24/2007 09:31:45
    1. Re: [IRISH-AMER] Colleen and American Census
    2. Linda Hess
    3. No. I'm not in New York at all. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

    01/23/2007 11:54:08
    1. [IRISH-AMER] Heavyweight Boxing Greats - SULLIVAN/CORBETT
    2. Jean R.
    3. SNIPPET: Some tidbits about boxing -- In the 1999 No. 1 issue of "Irish Roots" magazine published in Cork, a Patrick MYLER, 21 Torquay Wood, Leopardstown Road, Foxrock, Dublin 18, Ireland wrote: "I was interested to read Tim CADOGAN's article on John L. SULLIVAN in "Irish Roots" issue 28. The definitive biography on Sullivan is Michael T. ISENBERG's 'John L. Sullivan and his Times,' published by Robson Books, London, in 1988. It would now be out of print, I'm sure. The author states that John L's parents were married in St. Patrick's Church, Boston, on November 6, 1856. John L. visited Ireland twice, in 1887 and 1910. A recent booklet on Sullivan called 'John L. Sullivan: Cradle to Grave' is available from Tony GEE, 8 Berkeley Close, Potters Bar, Herts EN6 2L6, England. You mentioned my book 'The Fighting Irish,' published in 1987. This is out of print, but my latest book, 'Gentleman Jim CORBETT, a biography of the man who beat SULLIVAN for the world heavyweight title in 1892, is in most of the main book shops. It is published by Robson Books, London. I have quite a bit on SULLIVAN in the book, as can be seen by the index. CORBETT, like Sullivan, was American-born of Irish parents. His father, Patrick, was from Ballycusheen, a townland at Kilmaine, near Ballinrobe, County Mayo. His mother, formerly Catherine McDONALD, was from Islandbridge, Dublin. Gentleman Jim's uncle, Rev. James CORBETT, was parish priest at Partry, County Mayo. A stained glass window donated by the boxer is still in the church. There is much more on CORBETT's Irish family in my book.". Per my 'World Book' encyclopedia -- John L. SULLIVAN (1858-1918) was a famous bare-knuckle fighter and world heavyweight boxing champion. He won the heavyweight title from Paddy RYAN in 1882 in Mississippi City, MS on an eighth-round knockout. SULLIVAN fought his most famous fight with Jake KILRAIN in 1889. They fought 75 rounds (2 hours 16 minutes) before SULLIVAN won on a knockout. He lost the championship to Jim CORBETT in 1892. He retired in 1905, and appeared on the stage. SULLIVAN was born in Roxbury, MA. James John CORBETT (1866-1933), became the world heavyweight boxing champion in 1892. He was regarded as one of the first 'scientific' boxers. A bank teller, CORBETT became a professional boxer in 1884, and won the heavyweight title from John L. SULLIVAN. He lost it to Bob FITZSIMMONS in 1897. After trying twice to regain the championship, he retired from the ring and became an actor. CORBETT was born in San Francisco, CA.

    01/23/2007 05:18:03
    1. Re: [IRISH-AMER] Grimes, Nolan, Cox, Riley
    2. >Researching my Irish ancestors. > Grimes, Nolan, Cox, Riley >Or have any recommendations how to >research them in Ireland??< >Thanks, >Charlie Charlie, According to the Irish Genealogy, A. Record Finder GRIMES came mostly from Counties Mayo and Tyrone. NOLAN from Mayo, Galway, Tipperary, Kerry, Kildare, Wicklow, Carlow, Wexford and Dublin. In this book 5 births or more in a County were recorded. COX came from every Province. Mostly Counties Roscommon and Dublin. RILEY spelt REILLY and RIELLY are found in every county. Mayo and Cork have about 65% http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.htm 1848 - 1864 http://www.familysearch.org/ Enter names, etc. http://www.google.com/ Enter words related to your search. I am sure others will have more information for you. Joan

    01/23/2007 12:05:06
    1. [IRISH-AMER] Grimes, Nolan, Cox, Riley
    2. Charles Wright
    3. Researching my Irish ancestors. Ancestors of KATHERINE JANE GRIMES Generation No. 1 1. KATHERINE JANE GRIMES, born July 10, 1888 in East Putney, VT; died October 11, 1956 in Walpole, NH. Ancestral Generation No. 2 2. MICHAEL GRIMES, born Abt. 1864 in IRELAND; died May 24, 1899 in Putney, VT. He married 3. MARY ELLEN NOLAN born Abt. 1867 in IRELAND. Michael and Mary Ellen were married September 12, 1887 in Brattleboro, VT (no record found at the town clerk's office). Ancestral Generation No. 3 4. JAMES GRIMES born (prob. Ireland). He married 5. CATHERINE RILEY born (prob. Ireland). 6. JOHN NOLAN born (prob. Ireland). He married 7. MARY COX born (prob. Ireland). Does anyone recognize these people? Or have any recommendations how to research them in Ireland?? Thanks, Charlie Charles B. Wright PO Box 519 Walpole, NH 03608 USA e-mail : [email protected] (Pontegwa is an old Indian trail that ran along the Cold River, from its mouth on the Connecticut River [a mile from my house] to its origin in Acworth, NH.)

    01/23/2007 11:23:14
    1. Re: [IRISH-AMER] Children's poem regarding a St.Patrick's Day Parade
    2. Jean R.
    3. THEY WERE ALL OUT OF STEP BUT JIM Lyrics, Irving Berlin Jimmy's mother went to see her son Marching along on parade In his uniform and with his gun What a lovely picture he made She came home that ev'ning Filled up with delight And to all the neighbors She would yell with all her might [Refrain:] Did you see my little Jimmy marching With the soldiers up the avenue? There was Jimmy just as stiff as starch Like his Daddy on the seventeenth of March Did you notice all the lovely ladies Casting their eyes on him? Away he went To live in a tent Over in France with his regiment Were you there, and tell me, did you notice? They were all out of step but Jim [2nd verse:] That night little Jimmy's father stood Buying the drinks for the crowd You could tell that he was feeling good He was talking terribly loud Twenty times he treated My! but he was dry When his glass was empty He would treat again and cry [Alternate Lines In 2nd refrain:] It made me glad To gaze at the lad Lord help the Kaiser if he's like his Dad Mary -- Is this the one? If not, I have a couple more ideas. Jean xx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Quirk-Thompson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 11:09 AM Subject: [IRISH-AMER] Children's poem regarding a St.Patrick's Day Parade I realize that after reading great poetry at this site this is a terrible question, but. As my mother and I were leaving for the annual St. Patrick's Day parade in the 1980's my father rattled off a rhyme. It had to do with a St Patrick's Day parade with "Jimmy standing stiff as starch" da da da "on the 17th of March". It was longer than just those two lines.I think it was even longer than four lines.We were heading out the door and it took a bit to realize what was being said. My mother and I asked him to repeat it as we had never heard it before. Unhappily he could not. It had just popped into his mind and popped out just as fast. I would love to know the lines of that ditty. My father was born in 1901 in Milwaukee Wisconsin. His grandparents, were O'Connell, from around Emly Tipperary, Quirk from Cashel Tipperary, O'Neill from Cork and Monaghan no idea what county. The families were all in the US by 1850, so it is probably a US ditty rather than Irish. He was stationed in Lurgen, Co Armagh during WWII. But it sounded like something one would learn as a child rather than as a soldier in his forties who had a law degree. It is no great poetry: starch, March. But I am interested because of the sentiment attached to the moment I first heard it. So if anyone is familiar with the ditty please comment. Thanks, Mary Quirk-Thompson --------------------------------- Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. ====Irish American Mailing List===== Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname Registry at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.8/648 - Release Date: 1/23/2007 11:04 AM

    01/23/2007 10:17:03
    1. Re: [IRISH-AMER] Fwd: Misspelled Surnames -- Search Tool
    2. I agree -- names were spelled incorrectly and many times phonetically by many of the census takers and other officials in the early years -- mostly because those giving the information were illiterate or spoke with a heavy accent. My husband's surname is Tejeda - I found it a census in the early 1900s listed as Takata. The namethesaurus website is a great resource for researchers -- thanks for sharing.

    01/23/2007 06:29:39
    1. [IRISH-AMER] James Campbell the privateer
    2. Linda Hawkins
    3. Hello, My brick wall is James Campbell, he was a captain with Jean Lafitte in Galveston, TX It has been speculated that his father was a lawyer. Also I believe his appreniceship was at Fells Point, Baltimore City, MD. I have a copy of a manuscript by Ken Mirabeau B. Lamar Reproduced from the holdings of the Texas State Archives Austin, TX. Its sorta long but will post if there is interest. Here are a few notes I have on him. Some conflicting info. If James was b. 1791 he would be of age (21) in 1812, as stated in Tx.State Archive paper. Londonderry was called Derry in those days, which is N. Ire. where the Catholics lived. 1790 resettled in Balt. Md with parents 4 y/o this puts birth date at 1786? 1800 age 14 y/o became bound apprentice sailmaker named Kesterd at Donnell's I Wharf Balt. MD. for 10 yrs. (dates don't work maybe he was 10/11 not 14???) 1812 early enlisted U S Navy assigned as sailmaker U S S Constitution "Old Ironsides" with Comm. Isaac Hull 1812 Aug. 19 served as gunner in 30 min of cannading dismasting British frigate Guerriere 1813 reassigned as sailmaker to Commodore Oliver Hazard Perry Erie PA 1813 Sept 10, again served as gunner Battle of Lake Erie offshore from Sandisky, OH He stayed aboard the Lawrence til it started sinking, then helped row the Commo. to the Niagra. He was then reassigned to the Constitution, but served on the Constellation as well. 1814 discharged. ( I recently read that Jean Lafitte was in the war of 1812, wonder in James acually met him there.) He was also known as James Carroll, Camel and Cambell

    01/23/2007 04:47:32
    1. [IRISH-AMER] Children's poem regarding a St.Patrick's Day Parade
    2. Mary Quirk-Thompson
    3. I realize that after reading great poetry at this site this is a terrible question, but… As my mother and I were leaving for the annual St. Patrick's Day parade in the 1980's my father rattled off a rhyme. It had to do with a St Patrick's Day parade with "Jimmy standing stiff as starch" da da da "on the 17th of March". It was longer than just those two lines.I think it was even longer than four lines.We were heading out the door and it took a bit to realize what was being said. My mother and I asked him to repeat it as we had never heard it before. Unhappily he could not. It had just popped into his mind and popped out just as fast. I would love to know the lines of that ditty. My father was born in 1901 in Milwaukee Wisconsin. His grandparents, were O'Connell, from around Emly Tipperary, Quirk from Cashel Tipperary, O'Neill from Cork and Monaghan no idea what county. The families were all in the US by 1850, so it is probably a US ditty rather than Irish. He was stationed in Lurgen, Co Armagh during WWII. But it sounded like something one would learn as a child rather than as a soldier in his forties who had a law degree. It is no great poetry: starch, March. But I am interested because of the sentiment attached to the moment I first heard it. So if anyone is familiar with the ditty please comment. Thanks, Mary Quirk-Thompson --------------------------------- Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta.

    01/23/2007 04:09:28
    1. Re: [IRISH-AMER] Fwd: Misspelled Surnames -- Search Tool
    2. Frank Gebhart
    3. I am less than impressed. When I tried the system out on my ggf's surname, Slowey, Namex and Metaphone totally missed the major variation of the name, Sloey. [email protected] wrote: >I agree -- names were spelled incorrectly and many times phonetically by >many of the census takers and other officials in the early years -- mostly >because those giving the information were illiterate or spoke with a heavy accent. > My husband's surname is Tejeda - I found it a census in the early 1900s >listed as Takata. The namethesaurus website is a great resource for researchers >-- thanks for sharing. > >====Irish American Mailing List===== >Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname Registry at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

    01/23/2007 03:48:38
    1. [IRISH-AMER] "Windharp" - John MONTAGUE, b. 1929 Brooklyn, NY>>Co. Tyrone
    2. Jean R.
    3. WINDHARP The sounds of Ireland, that restless whispering you never get away from, seeping out of low bushes and grass, heatherbells and fern, wrinkling bog pools, scraping tree branches, light hunting cloud, sound hounding sight, a hand ceaselessly combing and stroking the landscape, till the valley gleams like the pile upon a mountain pony's coat.. -- John Montague, born Brooklyn, NY, 1929, brought up in Garvaghey, Co. Tyrone, since early 1970s Cork has been his home.

    01/22/2007 10:18:25
    1. Re: [IRISH-AMER] Last Will and Testament and other documents...Ohio(Curtis)
    2. Curtis
    3. Patricia, I do have all the papers where Rose Ann GORMAN MALEY RATHBONE b 1863 d 1946 filed for her father to be guardian of her 3 children (and yearly papers that she filled to receive money for their care-she even charged for shoe repair) by her first husband as he had left them quite a bit of money. I do not believe she was illiterate but one smart cookie........Her father Philip GORMAN was born 1834 in Ireland (came to USA in 1854 per 1910 Census) but she was born in Pesotum,Champaign Co.,IL. I got the papers when I was doing research at the Urbana Free Library in Urbana,Champaign Co.,IL at the Champaign County (IL) Genealogical Society. All the original papers were filed at the city court house in Urbana,Champaign Co.,IL. Regards, Patricia O'Malley/Maley-Curtis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [IRISH-AMER] Last Will and Testament and other documents...Ohio(Curtis) > Patricia MALEY-CURTIS wrote: > <snip>"My ggrandmother (Rose Ann "Annie" GORMAN MALEY RATHBONE) appointed her father (Philip GORMAN) as guardian of her three children after her > husband (Edward MALEY, Jr.) and their father died at a young age (32) so that > each year she could and did charge and submit a bill for their school > supplies, medical, clothing and etc. She also had married and had 2 children by > her second husband." > > Thanks for your reply, Patricia. I now understand why someone would appoint a guardian, even though a healthy, sane wife was alive. I have to remember that these folks were illiterate, while I believe that the guardian was literate. > > Perhaps you, or someone else can tell me whether there was any paperwork filed with the court such as "guardianship" papers? What other documents might have been created for the court? > > The problem I'm having is in knowing whether this estate was settled. Can anyone who may have come across this situation provide clues as to follow-up paperwork? > Patricia Daly > > > ====Irish American Mailing List===== > Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname Registry at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.5/645 - Release Date: 1/22/07 4:10 PM > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.5/645 - Release Date: 1/22/07 4:10 PM

    01/22/2007 06:50:33
    1. [IRISH-AMER] Ten More Interesting-Sounding Books (Reviews) 2005
    2. Jean R.
    3. More interesting-sounding books for 2005:: 1. "Ireland, Take the Kids," by Amy CORZINE (Cadogan Guides) p/b. "Children-friendly places to eat, sleep, picnic and shop; activities for tots and teens; stories, games, proverbs and riddles; a condensed overview of Ireland's history - complete with hints and tips for hassled adults. All you need to ensure a holiday's worth of happy memories for all concerned." 2. "Something Beginning with P, New Poems from Irish Poets," ed. Seamus CASHMAN and illustrated by Corrina ASKIN and Alan CLARKE (O'Brien Press) - h./b. "The veteran publisher Seamus CASHMAN must have had some months of marvellous fun working on this book with over a hundred living Irish poets to choose from and the creative genius of two gifted artists at his disposal - in full page glorious colour! Collection is designed for children - but like all the great classics for children - it is a pleasure for an adult to dip into. For example, Seamus HEANEY's "A Keen for Coins" -- "O henny penny! Oh horsed half-crown!/O florin salmon! O sixpence hound!/O woodcock! Piglets! Hare and bull!/O mint of field and flood farewell!/Be Ireland's lost ark, gone to ground/And where the rainbow ends, be found." How many of Ireland's marvellous pre-Euro coins can YOU recall? 3. "The Castles and Fortified Houses of West Cork," and "The Castles Of the Kingdom of Kerry," two paperbacks by Michael J. CARROLL (Bantry Studio Pub.) Per review - "Michael CARROLL lives in Bantry, in West Cork where he used to run a famous bookshop. In 2001, he closed his bookshop and now devotes his time to writing books. He first listed and described the 150 castles and fortified houses dotted all over West Cork. Next, he listed and described over 100 castles whose ruins enhance the beautiful county of Kerry. Where there is enough left to warrant an illustration one is included, but many of these once formidable buildings are now smashed walls and piles of stones. Mr. CARROLL has made sure that the sites and names of the families who once occupied them are not forgotten." 4. "See You At The Hall, Boston's Golden Era of Irish Music and Dance," by Susan GEDUTIS (Northeastern University Press), h/b. Per review -- "Names to dream about, one supposes, in the years between the 40s and the 60s -- the Intercolonial, the Hibernian, Winslow Hall, the Rose Croix and the Dudley Street Opera House - the huge bustling dance halls in the neighborhood of Dudley Square in Boston "the American capital of Galway." This is a charming account of the dancers, the musicians and their eimigrant world illustrated with some treasured photographs as 'Casey would waltz with a strawberry blond and the band played on.'" 5. "Stories From A Small Town," by Peter McNIFF (Greystonesww.com), h/b. "This book was written by an experienced reporter and photojournalist who went on to a career in current affairs TV. He records the lives of 25 people in their own words - parlour maid, judge, plumber, air ace, boat builder, milkman - living in Greystones, a self-contained village on the Wicklow coast south of Dublin. A very particular part of Greystones is The Burnaby -- 'Sure, we could have started our own army, airforce and navy. We had air marshals, admirals and generals on The Burnaby. Colonels were two a penny.' Strangely enough, Eamon de VALERA had a family home there for some years. The author lets the spotlight illuminate each personality in turn, keeping his readers constantly engaged..." 6. "All Changed, Fifty Years of Photographing Ireland," photos by Colman DOYLE and Text by John QUINN (O'Brien Press), h/b. (QUINN's home village in Ballivor, Co. Meath). Per review - "There are many great photographers about the globe these days, particularly in the newspaper world. Colman DOYLE, late of the much lamented 'Irish Press' who also photographed Ireland for 'Paris Match' for 40 years, is one of the very best going and his work is superbly reproduced, from the splendid features of the Blasket man to the transit of Venus as seen from Ballinastockan, Co. Wicklow. The choice of John QUINN to write a long essay linking together five decades of photography was nothing short of inspired. Don't stop to think. Buy this book." 7. "The Throw-In. The GAA and the Men Who Made It," by Brendan FULLAM (Wolfhound/Merlin), h/b. Per review -- "The Gaelic Athletic Association, founded in Thurles, Co. Tipperary, in 1884, is one of the most remarkable institutions in Ireland. In his book, Mr. FULLAM recalls the idealists, the visionaries - and the athletes - who graced the infant years of the GAA. His chapter on neglected heroes, recalling the remarkable AHERNs and the PURCELLs is particularly interesting." 8. "U2 The Best Of Propaganda, 20 Years of the Official U2 Magazine," (Carleton Books), large format h/b, and "U2 Show" by Diana SCRIMREOUR (Riverhead Books), large format h/b. Per review - "The biggest rock band in the world, God bless them , hit the road again across the globe this summer and you might chance to see them - you'll certainly hear them - in Croke Park this June! The best interviews and photos selected from 'Propaganda,' their fan club magazine available since 1981, appear in this fine Carleton Books publication, and "U2 Show" is a gorgeous, glorious book and a truly fantastic example of modern photography and the publisher's art. Though when it comes to these four blokes we've learned to sit back and watch out for the next innovation to dazzle ear - and eye!" 9. "Irish Oyster Cuisine" by Mairin Ni CHOMAIN (A&A Farmar) p/b. Per review - "According to that Galway legend Henry COMERFORD - an expert in these matters - 'Bisexual the oyster is/And cannot tell his her from his/And goes a-courting every day/With him or her or even they/But your oyster squeals when firmly bit/Please, I'm not him or her: I'm it.' I love my oysters raw. But this book is hard to put aside. First there are all the things you would ever want to know about oysters and what to eat and drink with oysters and oyster-laden recipes for soups, hot and cold snacks, finger food and main courses, topped of with a handful of gourmet recipes sourced from Dublin experts - all beautifully photographed by Walter PFEIFFER. This book ends with a selection of very interesting recipes for breads suited to eating with the delicate mollusk ... I keep going back to a recipe for oysters cooked with spinach, butter, yolk of egg and slivers of truffle .. served with a glass of champagne, of course!" 10. "Words, Words, Words," by Diarmaid O MUIRITHE (The Lilliput Press) p/b. Per review - "'Obsolete words fascinate me. So many good ones have died, and we'll never know why,' says the author, who collects words, their meanings and information about their origins. Did you know that Commodore John BARRY, Father of the American Navy registered the first American book for copyright in June 1790, entitled 'The Philadelphia Spelling Book.'?"

    01/22/2007 04:20:16
    1. Re: [IRISH-AMER] Colleen and American Census
    2. Hodgson
    3. Linda you're a wonder this could be her. I will track down all the sites you suggested. Many many thanks Colleen -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Linda Hess Sent: Monday, 22 January 2007 7:42 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRISH-AMER] Colleen and American Census Could this possibly be her? Margaret LYNCH Birth Date: 15 Dec 1902 Death Date: 7 Dec 1997 Social Security Number: 115-26-9696 State or Territory Where Number Was Issued: New York Death Residence Localities ZIP Code: 20007 Localities: Washington, Washington, District of Columbia MK Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: First, Colleen, simply copy paste the address in the "To" , or delete the original Subject, and type the new one--which is what I did just now. Since it appears you need the 1940 census, you will have a bit of a wait. The 1940 will not be released until 2012. Also, Ellis will not help you this late. Absolutely no idea where they went? East Coast? Might be possible to check city directories, but is a needle in a haystack at this point. Have you tried the various message boards for Fermanagh and the surnames? You might be surprised. Good luck! Kathleen Hodgson wrote: Sorry to interrupt the conversation but I am not quite sure how to send a new message. Would someone please do me a large favour and look up on the American census the following. My uncle John James Lynch born 28/7/1905 and his wife Margaret nee Shannon born 15/11/1902 in Maguiresbridge, County Fermanagh went to USA I think after their marriage on 15/4/1935. I don't know where they went. Can anybody help with a starting point. I have checked Ellis Island and they are not there. Any suggestions. Colleen -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Sunday, 21 January 2007 10:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRISH-AMER] Walsh Welch etc. I should have added (late here in Ireland !!) that Breathnach is pronounced Bra nock which in turn has been anglisised to Brannock. Kind regards, Stuart www.irelandandirish.com/forums The wild Geese Forums -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 21 January 2007 00:38 To: [email protected] Subject: [IRISH-AMER] Walsh Welch etc. I might be stating the obvious ..... I assume that you are aware that in Ireland, the surnames Walsh, Welch and Welsh are anglisised forms of Breathnach ( meaning a Breton or Welsh man. This was the original name given to Welsh (from Wales) supporters of Strongbow's Anglo Norman invasion of Ireland from 1180 on. Breathnach, the original version of the name is still a quite common name here in Ireland. Kind regards, Stuart www.irelandandirish.com/forums The Wild Geese Forums ====Irish American Mailing List===== Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname Registry at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ====Irish American Mailing List===== Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname Registry at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ====Irish American Mailing List===== Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname Registry at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ====Irish American Mailing List===== Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname Registry at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ====Irish American Mailing List===== Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname Registry at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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