Hi, I am not sure what this note means. Thanks. On 2/23/07, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > In a message dated 2/20/2007 7:08:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > Alas, this does not apply to reups! > > > > Talk nice <G> and they will cancel and enlist you as new <G> and if you are > on an Irish list and can't do that <wink> shame on you. > Eliz > > ====Irish American Mailing List===== > Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname Registry at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Elizabeth W. Tordella, MS, RN

In a message dated 2/20/2007 7:08:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Alas, this does not apply to reups! Talk nice <G> and they will cancel and enlist you as new <G> and if you are on an Irish list and can't do that <wink> shame on you. Eliz

SNIPPET: For an Irishman of patriotic and independent inclinations, the opportunities to celebrate the feast day of his national saint were distinctly limited on March 17, 1779. New York, in its third year of British military occupation, swarmed with soldiers and sailors. Civilians who openly supported the Patriot forces of George Washington had long fled, their places taken by Loyalist refugees. New York's more ambivalent citizens, living under virtual martial law, wisely kept their patriotic opinions to themselves. The main event of the day in 1779, as is still the case, was a parade in Manhattan. Since 1852, New York's famous Irish regiment, the Fighting 69th, has led the St. Patrick's Day parade through the heart of the city, but military men or units were active in New York's March 17th celebrations more than a century before the 69th began its escort duties. The military's first formal participation in New York's St. Patrick's Day parade was in 1779, when the Volunteers of Ireland marched through the city. The regiment of Loyalist Irishmen recruited in America had recently taken up quarters in Bowery Lane, then on the outskirts of the 18th century city at the lower end of Manhattan Island. The parade had two main purposes - to create an ethnic esprit along the men already in the regiment and to drum up more recruits. That Wednesday morning, Irish readers of the "Royal Gazette" were invited to join the Volunteers, "a Corps in which every recruit is sure of finding Townsmen or Relations." The regiment, formed at Philadelphia in 1778 was built around a nucleus of Irish deserters from George Washington's hungry and frost-bitten forces at Valley Forge. Since then, an active recruiting campaign, aided by broadsheets and ballads, had built up the unit's strength to 400 men of Irish birth, Anglo-Irish, Scots-Irish and Gaelic-Irish. The ten most common names were Murphy, Barry, Jones, Kelly, O'Reily, Thompson, Connolly, Doyle, McCarthy and Stewart. Among the 30 most common names, traditional recruiting areas of Munster and Connaught were represented by Barry, Fitzgerald, Griffin, Murphy, Ryan, Sullivan and McCarthy. But most of the non-Gaelic origin, Bingham, Clarke, Jones, Thompson, Stewart and Wilson, had strong Ulster associations. Many of the most common Gaelic names, including Connolly, Dougherty, McCormick, McLoughlin, McMahon and O'Reily, were also closely linked to Ulster. The regiment's distinctly Ulster cast was not surprising as emigration to America from the nine northern countries had been heavy throughout the 18th century. The commanding officer, 25-year-old Colonel Francis Rawdon (a strict and sometimes brutal disciplinarian) was an Irish nobleman from Co. Down. Rawdon was already a seasoned veteran of the American war, having taken two bullets through his cap at Bunker Hill and participating in the battles of Brooklyn and White Plains. He also did a number of wartime watercolor sketches of new York and New Jersey which are deposited in the NY Public Library's Emmet Collection. His second-in-command, Lt. Col. Welbore Ellis Doyle, came from a well-known Co. Kilkenny military family. His brother, Capt. John Doyle, commanded a company of the Volunteers. Both brothers would later rise to the rank of Major General. In 1793, John Doyle formed the regiment later known as the Royal Irish Fusiliers. During the Napoleonic War, their blood-curdling Irish war cry "Fag an Bealach" (Clear the Way) won them the nickname Faugh-a-Ballaghs, or the Faughs. One of the best-known members of Rawdon's wartime staff was another young Irish nobleman, Lord Edward Fitzgerald. Just 15 years old in 1779, Fitzgerald would join Rawdon as his aide-de-camp two years later in South Carolina. Fitzgerald died in 1798. >From "St. Patrick's Hearty Invitation to his Countrymen," the Volunteers of Ireland recruiting ballad, sung to the tune of "Paddy Whack." Each son of St. Patrick, each true-hearted fellow, Come join in our March, and bear Part in our Song; The Offer's no bad one, my Lads, let me tell you, So give us your Hand, and parade it along. At Yankey hereafter we'll tickle a Trigger, For Clinton, God bless him, will give use the Van; Let's first shew our Vigour, on Beef and good Liquor, St. Patrick's the Word, and your fife to your Can. The Harp of sweet Ireland has called us together, The Rights of our King and our Country to shield; We hope the Assistance of all who would rather Than slave in a Trade, take the Chance of the Field; To such gallant Fellows, we give Invitations, Whether born on the Nore, Shannon, Liffey, or Ban, St. Patrick's the Word, and each Fist to the Can. - "Irish Roots" magazine published in Cork

A chairde, Tá áthas ar Chumann Carad na Gaeilge fógraí a scaipeadh faoi ranganna agus imeachtaí na Gaeilge mar seo thíos. Le bhur dtoil, insigí dúinn faoi bhur n-eachtraí ionas gur féidir linn poiblíocht shaor in aisce a dhéanamh daoibh. Tá an teachtaireacht seo ag dul amach go heagraíochtaí cultúrtha Éireannacha i Meiriceá Thuaidh agus go breis agus 160 múinteoir, scoil, agus eagraíocht na Gaeilge i Meiriceá Thuaidh amháin. / The Philo-Celtic Society is pleased to spread the word about Irish language classes and events like this one below. Please tell us about your activities so that we can do free publicity for you. This announcement is going out to Irish cultural organizations in North America and to more than 160 Irish language teachers, schools, and organizations in North America alone. Le gach dea-ghuí, Gearóid Ó Ceallaigh / Jerry Kelly Rúnaí Fógraíochta / Publicity Secretary Cumann Carad na Gaeilge / The Philo-Celtic Society <outbind://263/www.philo-celtic.com> www.philo-celtic.com FÓGRA / ANNOUNCEMENT Lá na Gaeilge 2007 in Westchester NY Saturday, March 24 9:00 AM - 5:00 PM $40 Location: IONA College North Avenue, New Rochelle NY further information Phone (914) 276-0412 [email protected] Lá na Gaeilge 2007 a day of immersion in the Irish Language for beginners, continuing students, those who would like to rediscover their language and fluent enthusiasts. An Scoil Chois Claí the hedge school Irish Language Classes (914) 276-0412 [email protected] Directions to IONA College: >From Upper New York State and Upper Westchester County (I-287) New York State Thruway to Cross Westchester Expressway (Interstate 287) East. Take East Exit 9 South to the Hutchinson River Parkway. Hutchinson River Parkway South to Exit 18E, Mill Road. Right on Mill Road to light, then right on North Avenue. Follow North Avenue 2 miles to entrance of College on your left. >From New England and Upper Westchester County (I-95) Interstate 95 (Connecticut Turnpike, New England Thruway) to Cross Westchester Expressway (Interstate 287). Take Exit 9 south to the Hutchinson River Parkway. Hutchinson River Parkway South to Exit 18E - Mill Road. Right on Mill Road to light, then right on North Avenue. Follow North Avenue 2 miles to entrance of College on your left. Alternate Route: Interstate 95 South to Exit 16. Follow signs to North Avenue. Right onto North Avenue, proceed 1 mile to entrance of the College on your right. >From Midtown Manhattan FDR Drive Take the FDR to the bridge at Willis Avenue. Bridge connects to the Major Deegan Expressway North. Stay left after crossing the bridge. Follow to Cross County Parkway East. Proceed east to Exit 10, New Rochelle Road, Eastchester. Turn right and proceed to fourth traffic light. Turn left on Eastchester Road to the end, then right on North Avenue to second traffic light and left onto campus. >From New Jersey, The West and the South Holland Tunnel, Lincoln Tunnel, or George Washington Bridge to Henry Hudson Parkway. North to Cross County Parkway East. Proceed east to Exit 10, New Rochelle Road, Eastchester. Turn right and proceed to fourth traffic light. Turn left on Eastchester Road to the end, then right on North Avenue to second traffic light and left onto campus.

A chairde, Gabhaigí mo leithscéal le bhur dtoil go bhfuil an fógra seo chomh deireanach sin. / Please accept my apology that this announcement is late. Tá áthas ar Chumann Carad na Gaeilge fógraí a scaipeadh faoi ranganna agus imeachtaí na Gaeilge mar seo thíos. Le bhur dtoil, insigí dúinn faoi bhur n-eachtraí ionas gur féidir linn poiblíocht shaor in aisce a dhéanamh daoibh. Tá an teachtaireacht seo ag dul amach go heagraíochtaí cultúrtha Éireannacha i Meiriceá Thuaidh agus go breis agus 160 múinteoir, scoil, agus eagraíocht na Gaeilge i Meiriceá Thuaidh amháin. / The Philo-Celtic Society is pleased to spread the word about Irish language classes and events like this one below. Please tell us about your activities so that we can do free publicity for you. This announcement is going out to Irish cultural organizations in North America and to more than 160 Irish language teachers, schools, and organizations in North America alone. Le gach dea-ghuí, Gearóid Ó Ceallaigh / Jerry Kelly Rúnaí Fógraíochta / Publicity Secretary Cumann Carad na Gaeilge / The Philo-Celtic Society <http://www.philo-celtic.com/> www.philo-celtic.com FÓGRA / ANNOUNCEMENT _____ From: Hogg, Sheila [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 6:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: RANGANNA CHUMANN CARAD NA GAEILGE AR FUD AN DOMHAIN I bhFEABHRA / PHILO-CELTIC CLASSES AROUND THE WORLD IN FEBRUARY Ranganna nua i Rhode Island: Beginning Irish language in Cranston Taught by Sheila Hogg Tuesdays starting February 20, 2007 Class 7-9 pm Registration starts at 6:30 pm 10 classes Exploring Irish Gaelic language through sound and song. The basics of pronunciation and grammar will be taught. No previous experience necessary Tuition: $120 non-members/ $110 members Irish Ceilidhe Club of Rhode Island 50 America Street Cranston, Rhode Island Texts used, but not included with tuition: * Buntus Cainte book 1 (comes with CD) and may be purchased through http://www.ossianusa.com <BLOCKED::http://www.ossianusa.com> For more information, contact Sheila at 863-3759 days or email [email protected] _____ Advanced Beginners: Wednesdays, 6:30 - 8:30 pm at Brown University Call 863-3759 for further information

A new book is being released in March relating the history of the Irish in Seattle. It is callend Irish Seattle and a description of the book is: The Puget Sound area has been greatly influenced by the Irish, and while many of the names and events are familiar, until now, their Irish connections were rarely acknowledged. Judge Thomas Burke, “The Man who Built Seattle,” had Irish parents. So did Washington’s second governor, John Harte McGraw. John Collins, who left Ireland at the tender age of 10 to seek his fame and fortune, became Seattle’s fourth mayor. “The Mercer Girls” included Irish women who came west to Seattle. This fascinating retrospective pays tribute to the first- and second-generation Irish who lived in the Puget Sound region over the past 150 years and who contributed to Seattle’s growth. In more than 200 photographs and illustrations, this book chronicles the contributions of the Irish to an area whose landscape and climate reminded them of home. You can find a link for it on the Irish-American List webpage: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ The book is listed with other Irish American books at the bottom of the page. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Alas, this does not apply to reups! et On 2/20/07, Pat Connors <[email protected]> wrote: > Until sometime in March, Ancestry has cut their price for both the US > and World Deluxe packages. You can check it out here: > http://landing.ancestry.com/popularmedia/hs1.aspx?landingpage=Ext99&o_xid=0041613211&o_lid=0041613211 > > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > > > ====Irish American Mailing List===== > Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname Registry at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Elizabeth W. Tordella, MS, RN

Until sometime in March, Ancestry has cut their price for both the US and World Deluxe packages. You can check it out here: http://landing.ancestry.com/popularmedia/hs1.aspx?landingpage=Ext99&o_xid=0041613211&o_lid=0041613211 -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

SNIPPET: During the 17th and 18th centuries over 60,000 men, women and children were involuntarily transported from the British Isles to the American colonies. The vast majority of these people were felons, but there were a number of political and religious dissidents such as the Cromwellian transportees of the 1650s. The English courts were far more likely to order the transportation of prisoners than were the Scottish or Irish courts, banishing about 50,000 prisoners to the colonies to work as indentured servants. The Scottish authorities ordered fewer than 3,000 prisoners to be transported and the Irish courts approximately 4,000. In 1719 an Act was introduced by the Irish House of Commons for "the better and more effectual apprehending and transporting of felons and others," and given Royal assent on 8 March 1725. The kidnapping and shipment of children to America and their sale as indentured servants began to cause concern, and in January 1743 the Irish Government established a committee to examine the whole system of transportation in detail. Information presented to the committee contains valuable data pertaining to 2,000 Irish men and women transported to the American colonies during the mid-18th century. As a result of this committee's investigations, further legislation was introduced in the Irish House of Commons in January 1752 tightening up the rules governing the transportation of prisoners. Researchers may be interested in the following reference book, "Emigrants from Ireland to America, 1735-1743", Frances McDONNELL (Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, MD 1 992), Library of Congress Catalogue Card Number 91-77067, International Standard Book Number (ISBN) 0-8063-1331-5. It contains a transcript of the Report of the committee, as contained in the "Journal of the House of Commons of the Kingdom of Ireland," Vol. 7 (1796). Contents includes county, dates of assizes, name of person ordered for transportation, money presented for that purpose, type of crime (grand larceny, etc., often vagabond) and in some cases name of ship, port of departure and destination. A few examples from Co. Kilkenny: Assize Date: 29 July 1742 John COMERFORD and James COMERFORD (vagabonds); 11 Aug 1739 Dennis MADDEN (grand larceny), John FITZPATRICK (grand larceny), Thomas DEERIN (grand larceny); 2 April 1740 Joseph MORAN (grand larceny). . .

Jean, RE: How to find info on person executed in Sing Sing. Thanks for all those wonderful leads. I have several things in process now, and will let you, and the list know how I do. Patricia

Something interesting that I've learned is that approximately 75% of Colonial America's immigrants (South of New England) came to the colonies as servants. That being the case, most of us with ancestors in America before 1800 should have ancestors who were imported servants. Nathan W. Murphy, MA, AG® Researcher and Marketing Director Price & Associates, Inc. http://www.pricegen.com ________________________________ From: [email protected] on behalf of Nathan Murphy Sent: Mon 2/19/2007 10:30 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRISH-AMER] New Website, Details on 10, 000 Indentured Servants ANNOUNCEMENT: Free Online Database of Indentured Servants, Redemptioners, and Transported Convicts PROJECT TITLE: Immigrant Servants Database PROJECT URL: www.immigrantservants.com <https://www.pricegen.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.immigrantservants.com/> IF YOUR ANCESTOR WAS AN INDENTURED SERVANT, MR. MURPHY WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU. MANY IRISH IMMIGRANTS ARE INCLUDED, LOOK, FOR EXAMPLE, UNDER THE "M" SURNAME SECTION. DESCRIPTION: Nathan W. Murphy, Ph.D. candidate at the University of Utah, is using skills he developed as a social historian and professional genealogist to reconstruct a passenger arrival list of indentured servants coming to Colonial America. For more about Mr. Murphy, see http://www.pricegen.com/staff2.htm <https://www.pricegen.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.pricegen.com/staff2.htm> The project will continue for several years. It follows in the spirit of Peter Wilson Coldham's efforts to publish passenger departure lists from sources in the United Kingdom and Ireland for indentured servants and transported convicts, but focuses on tapping American sources of immigrant servant arrivals to complement the UK data. Murphy, an Accredited Genealogist who resides in Salt Lake City, Utah, has quick access to Colonial American and European sources through the Family History Library. He has received permission from the major publishers of Colonial Virginia's court orders to extract evidences of imported servants from their books and make them available for free on the Internet. He hopes to complete his search of seventeenth-century court orders by Spring 2007. NOTE: The approximately 10,000 immigrant servants currently in the database do not derive from the same sources as those in the Virtual Jamestown project. The numbers of immigrants in this new database will continue to grow in the future. PROJECT HIGHLIGHTS: - Three search engines: SIMPLE SEARCH (queries all text in database), ADVANCED SEARCH (search by any of more than 50 fields in database), and LETTER SEARCH (browse through lists of servants arranged by the first letter of their surname). The search engines are equipped with SOUNDEX, which retrieves servants with surnames that sound alike, i.e. Murphy, Morphew, Murfee, Murfew, Murfey, Murphew, and Murphey all come back as possible matches with the surname "Murphy." - LEARNING CENTER, includes a copy of Murphy's ARTICLE "Origins of Colonial Chesapeake Indentured Servants: American and English Sources," published in the March 2005 edition of National Genealogical Society Quarterly, which provides tips for tracing the immigrant origins of English indentured servants; GLOSSARY of terms associated with the practice of indentured servitude; extensive list of LAWS from Colonial Virginia pertaining to indentured servants; lengthy BIBLIOGRAPHY identifying sources Murphy has used and hopes to use to build this database (includes references to 12 personal accounts of immigrant servants); and a list of LINKS that will interest researchers of immigrant servants. Comments and suggestions are welcome. Nathan W. Murphy [email protected] ====Irish American Mailing List===== Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname Registry at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Something interesting that I've learned is that approximately 75% of Colonial America's immigrants (South of New England) came to the colonies as servants. That being the case, most of us with ancestors in America before 1800 should have ancestors who were imported servants. Nathan W. Murphy, MA, AG® Researcher and Marketing Director Price & Associates, Inc. http://www.pricegen.com ________________________________ From: [email protected] on behalf of Nathan Murphy Sent: Mon 2/19/2007 11:15 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRISH-AMER] New Website, Details on 10, 000 Indentured Servants It looks like the link didn't work, let's try again www.immigrantservants.com Nathan W. Murphy, MA, AG® ====Irish American Mailing List===== Add/check your surname to the Irish-American mailing list Surname Registry at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It looks like the link didn't work, let's try again www.immigrantservants.com Nathan W. Murphy, MA, AG®

ANNOUNCEMENT: Free Online Database of Indentured Servants, Redemptioners, and Transported Convicts PROJECT TITLE: Immigrant Servants Database PROJECT URL: www.immigrantservants.com <https://www.pricegen.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.immigrantservants.com/> IF YOUR ANCESTOR WAS AN INDENTURED SERVANT, MR. MURPHY WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU. MANY IRISH IMMIGRANTS ARE INCLUDED, LOOK, FOR EXAMPLE, UNDER THE "M" SURNAME SECTION. DESCRIPTION: Nathan W. Murphy, Ph.D. candidate at the University of Utah, is using skills he developed as a social historian and professional genealogist to reconstruct a passenger arrival list of indentured servants coming to Colonial America. For more about Mr. Murphy, see http://www.pricegen.com/staff2.htm <https://www.pricegen.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.pricegen.com/staff2.htm> The project will continue for several years. It follows in the spirit of Peter Wilson Coldham's efforts to publish passenger departure lists from sources in the United Kingdom and Ireland for indentured servants and transported convicts, but focuses on tapping American sources of immigrant servant arrivals to complement the UK data. Murphy, an Accredited Genealogist who resides in Salt Lake City, Utah, has quick access to Colonial American and European sources through the Family History Library. He has received permission from the major publishers of Colonial Virginia's court orders to extract evidences of imported servants from their books and make them available for free on the Internet. He hopes to complete his search of seventeenth-century court orders by Spring 2007. NOTE: The approximately 10,000 immigrant servants currently in the database do not derive from the same sources as those in the Virtual Jamestown project. The numbers of immigrants in this new database will continue to grow in the future. PROJECT HIGHLIGHTS: - Three search engines: SIMPLE SEARCH (queries all text in database), ADVANCED SEARCH (search by any of more than 50 fields in database), and LETTER SEARCH (browse through lists of servants arranged by the first letter of their surname). The search engines are equipped with SOUNDEX, which retrieves servants with surnames that sound alike, i.e. Murphy, Morphew, Murfee, Murfew, Murfey, Murphew, and Murphey all come back as possible matches with the surname "Murphy." - LEARNING CENTER, includes a copy of Murphy's ARTICLE "Origins of Colonial Chesapeake Indentured Servants: American and English Sources," published in the March 2005 edition of National Genealogical Society Quarterly, which provides tips for tracing the immigrant origins of English indentured servants; GLOSSARY of terms associated with the practice of indentured servitude; extensive list of LAWS from Colonial Virginia pertaining to indentured servants; lengthy BIBLIOGRAPHY identifying sources Murphy has used and hopes to use to build this database (includes references to 12 personal accounts of immigrant servants); and a list of LINKS that will interest researchers of immigrant servants. Comments and suggestions are welcome. Nathan W. Murphy [email protected]

Here is a good website that is now free: http://www.paperofrecord.com/ It has many newspapers from Canada and USA. Also the Irish Times from Ireland. and many more for other places in the world. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

THE TROUT Flat on the bank I parted Rushes to ease my hands In the water without a ripple And tilt them slowly downstream To where he lay, light as a leaf, In his fluid sensual dream. Bodiless lord of creation I hung briefly above him Savouring my own absence Senses expanding in the slow Motion, the photographic calm That grows before action. As the curve of my hands Swung under his body He surged, with visible pleasure. I was so preternaturally close I could count every stipple But still cast no shadow, until The two palms crossed in a cage Under the lightly pulsing gills. Then (entering my own enlarged Shape, which rode on the water) I gripped. To this day I can Taste his terror on my hands. -- John Montague

SNIPPET: James MURRAY of Co. Tyrone found America to his liking because of the combination of economic and political freedom it offered. In 1737, he wrote home to his minister so that he might pass on the good word to his kin and friends. "Read this letter, and look, and tell aw the poor Folk of your Place, that god has opened a Door for their Deliverance; for here is ne scant of Bread...Ye may get Lan here for 10 pund a Hundred Acres for ever, and Ten Years Tell ye get the Money before they wull ask ye for it; and it is within 40 miles of this York upon a River Side that this Lan lies, so that ye may carry aw the Guds in Boat to this York to sell, if ony of you comes here...Desire my Fether and Mether too, and my Three Sisters to come here...and I will pay their passage...I bless the Lord for my safe Journey here...this York is as big as twa of Armagh...There is servants comes here out of Ereland, and have served there time here, wha are now Justices of the Piece."

Added Note: Patricia, once you find more about the person you are researching, you can check old city directories. Grasping at straws here ... That is the Wikipedia website I was referring to, I tend to misspell it. They also have a story about Elyria, OH. The fact that the story appeared in that particular OH newspaper might indicate that DALY had a connection to Chicago, Cleveland or even that particular area in Lorain County. Read newspaper articles from that date to see what was going on. Read about Chicago in the 1920s. Might have been in other prisons before Sing Sing. Are you interested in that location? The Lorain OH library website has a very interesting timeline of historical events in that area near Elyria on line including deaths from the Spanish flu, returning Lorain servicemen, influx of immigrants, etc. Gangsters and Prohibition: On January 8, 1925 a Lorain Prohibition Era court case sets precedent; the smell of alcohol is enough to convict a man! Perhaps you can locate a dedicated on-line OH railroad buff with some insight into street railroads and violent incidents.. Might give insight into worker's right, unions, local government, corruption. In 1897 a traction line (street railway) was opened between Elyria and Oberlin-a round-trip ticket cost 25 cents. If the murdered employees were black, it might even have been an incident fueled by the resurgence of the KKK. Around that time in America, a film director, D. W. Griffith began work on "Birth of a Nation" movie(1915). The film created a sensation. Griffith's use of intricate editing and film techniques such as alternating close-ups and long-shots from varying camera angles, were revolutionary and inspired a generation of directors. The film's portrayal of the Ku Klux Klan and African Americans, resulted in Griffith being accused of racism. Despite attempts by the NAACP to have the film banned, it was highly successful at the box office. Deeply hurt by the accusations of racism, Griffith's next film, "Intolerance" (1916), was a quartet of stories of man's inhumanity to man. Griffith's attempt to compensate for the politics of the "Birth of a Nation: was a commercial flop. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean R." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [IRISH-AMER] How to find person executed in Sing Sing > Hi Patricia, Note that the location is Ossining, NY. There is a very > interesting Wilkipedia website article on the history of the town and on > Sing Sing prison. If you feel strongly that the (gangster) DALY > individual > is someone in your family, try contacting the Ossining Historical Society > website. I believe that is where I saw them list newspapers that carried > news about the prison in various years and a volunteer might check > microfilms or have a card file, newspaper file, or book about gangland to > draw on. There is a very interesting on-line "Time" magazine archived > article on Sing Sing, dated Monday January 7, 1929, which gives details of > life in prison and execution of prisoners. One of several books available > for background: "LIFE AND DEATH IN SING SING" - Lewis E. LAWES-Doubleday, > Doran. He was a warden there in the 1920s. > > If you determined date of birth and death, how long he had been in prison, > found where he resided in early life, or as a member of a gang, you might > be > able to find him on a USA Federal Census. I should think that old prison > ledgers would exist with details on prisoners. > > Although the fact that DALY is identified as a "gangster" makes it likely > he > was Irish, one should keep in mind that many blacks have Irish surnames > going back to the days of slavery and plantation owners. > > Rootsweb at Ancestry.com has, I believe, an interesting board for > researchers with "Black Sheep" ancestors. > > Jean > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patricia" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 9:06 AM > Subject: [IRISH-AMER] How to find person executed in Sing Sing > > >> The following was printed in an Elyria, OH paper, the The >> Chronicle-Telegram," 1926 June 25: >> >> "Ossing. N.Y., June 25---Frank Daly, gangster, paid the penalty in the >> electric chair at sing sing shortly before midnight for the murder of two >> street railroad emplyoyes[sic]." >> >> I'd like to know what records I need to locate in order to determine >> this >> man's ancestry. >> Thank you, >> Patricia

Hundreds of names in the County Down birth records have been added to my website, these will not be picked up by the website search engine till tomorrow, but you can browse through them now by going to the County Down births on the website index page, We are working on the website getting it ready for transferring to an American server next Month, and the best of luck in your research. Raymond http://www.raymondscountydownwebsite.com

Hi Patricia, Note that the location is Ossining, NY. There is a very interesting Wilkipedia website article on the history of the town and on Sing Sing prison. If you feel strongly that the (gangster) DALY individual is someone in your family, try contacting the Ossining Historical Society website. I believe that is where I saw them list newspapers that carried news about the prison in various years and a volunteer might check microfilms or have a card file, newspaper file, or book about gangland to draw on. There is a very interesting on-line "Time" magazine archived article on Sing Sing, dated Monday January 7, 1929, which gives details of life in prison and execution of prisoners. One of several books available for background: "LIFE AND DEATH IN SING SING" - Lewis E. LAWES-Doubleday, Doran. He was a warden there in the 1920s. If you determined date of birth and death, how long he had been in prison, found where he resided in early life, or as a member of a gang, you might be able to find him on a USA Federal Census. I should think that old prison ledgers would exist with details on prisoners. Although the fact that DALY is identified as a "gangster" makes it likely he was Irish, one should keep in mind that many blacks have Irish surnames going back to the days of slavery and plantation owners. Rootsweb at Ancestry.com has, I believe, an interesting board for researchers with "Black Sheep" ancestors. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 9:06 AM Subject: [IRISH-AMER] How to find person executed in Sing Sing > The following was printed in an Elyria, OH paper, the The > Chronicle-Telegram," 1926 June 25: > > "Ossing. N.Y., June 25---Frank Daly, gangster, paid the penalty in the > electric chair at sing sing shortly before midnight for the murder of two > street railroad emplyoyes[sic]." > > I'd like to know what records I need to locate in order to determine this > man's ancestry. > Thank you, > Patricia >