Is there anyone researching  the Beglane families from Ireland ? Ray Briggs

Hi Ray - Anything here that might help your research? >From the Internet: The ORMSBY family held land in the parish of Kilmacshalgan through much of the 19th century. The property appears under various spellings including Farrellmacfarrell and Faremacfarell in additon to the official Townlands Index spelling of Farrenmacfarrell. James ORMSBY was the proprietor of over 550 acres in county Sligo in the 1870s. In 1906 the property at Farrenmacfarrell, including the mansion house, were occupied by Alexander CUFFE. My note: A County Sligo landowner (one acre or more)1876 survey doesn't show Cuffe or Beglane names, but does have several Ormsby landowners. A couple of them sound like people who owned property in the area you are interested in: James Ormsby, address Farrell Mt. Farrell, Dromore, West, owned 1,160+ acres in Co. Sligo valued at 684 pounds 18 shillings. James Ormsby, address Dromore, West, owned 373+ acres in Co. Sligo valued at only 8 pounds 10 shillings. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: Jean R. To: raybriggs9999@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 6:30 PM Subject: Farranmacfarrell is the correct spelliing, I believe -- Re: 1901 Census at Leitrim-Roscommon website includ. Land Owners in Sligo, Ireland-I need your help Townland Parish Barony County Description Head of household Surname Head of household Given Head of household Occupation Other occupants Enniscrone T. Kilglass Tireragh Sligo Household Beglaine Mary(47) living on interest/widow Maggie Nealis(16) niece/born Co. Mayo Cannaghanally Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household Beglan Margaret(50) farmer/widow John(26) farmer-Sarah(18)-Michael(16)-Mary(12) Culleens Kilglass Tireragh Sligo Household Beglan Patt(41) farmer Anna(39) wife-Anna M.(11)-Mary E.(10)-Willy(8)-Kate(5)-Linda(3)-Josephene(1) Westport T./North Hall Oughaval Murrisk Mayo Household Beglan/Biglan James(44) ex RIC sgt./born Co. Sligo Arabella(24) wife-John(1)-Patrick(5mo.) born Co. Sligo-Sibina Johnston(56) servant/not married Carrownaboll Skreen Tireragh Sligo Household Beglane Bridget(46) not married Michael(45) brother/ex teacher/not married Culleens Kilglass Tireragh Sligo Household Beglane Honor(44) farmers wife/married Minnie(23) dtr./not married-Annie(3) dtr.-Maria Conway(15) visitor Bellafarney Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household Beglane Patrick(in his 30's) farmer Bridget(35) wife-Willie(7)-Maggie A.(5)-Patrick(3)-John(2)-Mary Ellen(7mo.)-William Dolphin(68) father in law/widower Cannaghanally Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household Beglane Michael(54) farmer Norah(53) wife-William(25)-Mary Anne(21)-Thomas(20)-Norah(4) visitor NOTE no relationship to Michael indicated Carrownaknockan Skreen Tireragh Sligo Household Beglane Bridget(54) farmer/widow Margaret(28) dtr./not married/seamstress-Michael(23) son/not married-Bridget(19) dtr./not married Carrownaboll Skreen Tireragh Sligo Household Beglane Patrick(59) farmer Winifred(46) wife Ballymoghany Castleconor Tireragh Sligo Household Beglen Martin(48) farmer Mary(40) wife Farranmacfarrell Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household Biglane James(28) farmer Bridget(28) wife-Edward J.(3)-Michael(2)-Ellen(5mo.)-Thomas(102) father/widower Culleens Kilglass Tireragh Sligo Household Biglane Nicholas(72) farmer Mary(64) wife-Hugh(34) farmer-Nicholas(32) farmer-Andrew(28) farmer-sons all not married Farranmacfarrell Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household Biglane William(43) farmer Sarah(40) wife-Patrick(16)-Mary(14)-John(12)-Annie(10)-Celia(8)-William(6) 14 Total Matches Hi Ray - Have you checked out the data at the Leitrim-Roscommon website? They have the 1901 Co. Sligo Census transcribed. Looks like #12 & #14 are some of your kin? I found other individuals on the 1901 Census living with another family: Townland Parish Barony County Description Head of household Surname Head of household Given Head of household Occupation Other occupants Culleens Kilglass Tireragh Sligo Household Cavanagh Bridget(65) farmer/widow John(35) son/married/farmer-Catherine(28) dtr. in law-Patrick(40) son/not married/farmer-Bridget Beglane(14) visitor Checking out residents (1901) in Farranmacfarrell: Townland Parish Barony County Description Head of household Surname Head of household Given Head of household Occupation Other occupants Farranmacfarrell Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household Biglane James(28) farmer Bridget(28) wife-Edward J.(3)-Michael(2)-Ellen(5mo.)-Thomas(102) father/widower Farranmacfarrell Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household Biglane William(43) farmer Sarah(40) wife-Patrick(16)-Mary(14)-John(12)-Annie(10)-Celia(8)-William(6) Farranmacfarrell Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household Bourke Mary(66) farmer/widow Anthony(23) son/not married/farmer-Ellen(20) dtr./not married/seamstress Farranmacfarrell Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household Burke John(40) farmer Catherine(40) wife-A. Maria(4)-James(3)-Kate(1)-Sarah(20) sister/seamstress/not married Farranmacfarrell Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household Coggans Owen(60) farmer Anne(50) wife-Maggie(16) niece Farranmacfarrell Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household Coggans Thomas(26?) farmer/not married Farranmacfarrell Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household Connolly Bridget(65) dressmaker/widow Martin(37) son in law NOTE same last name-Anne(37) dtr./married-Bridget(33) dtr./not married-William(3) gs Farranmacfarrell Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household Connolly John(61) farmer Bridget(50) wife-John(25) son/not married Farranmacfarrell Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household Connolly William(53) farmer/widower Mathew(21)-Anne J.(19)-James(17)-Mary K.(15)-Martin J. Battelle(38) visitor/tailor/not married Farranmacfarrell Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household Connor Patt(56) farmer Ellen(50) wife-James(17)-Ellen(16) Farranmacfarrell Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household Cuffe Alexander(45) farmer Margaret(40) wife-Margaret A. Ormsby(10) stepdtr.-Mary Jane(5)-Richard(3)-Robert(10mo.)-Mary Sexton(16) servant Farranmacfarrell Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household Culkin Henery(65) farmer Briget(59) wife-Henery(22)-Daniel(19) Farranmacfarrell Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household Flynn Bridget(40) shopkeeper/not married Kate Maloney?(20) cousin/not married-Allen? GILROY(22) cousin/farm labourer/not married Farranmacfarrell Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household Flynn Eliza(60) farmer/widow John(32)-Patrick(30)-James(28)-Thomas(26)-Michael(24)-Bridget(22)-Thady(20)-all not married Farranmacfarrell Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household Fox Ellen(70) farmer/widow Bartley(38) dtr./not married-John(29) son/not married-John Feeney(12) gs Farranmacfarrell Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household Gallagher Margaret(33) farmer/married Owen(15)-John(7)-Kate(5)-Pat(1) Farranmacfarrell Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household Grehan William(62) farmer Bridget(56) wife-John(34)-Celia(20)-Thomas(18)-James(15)-Lizzie(11) Farranmacfarrell Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household Grehan Micheal(68) farmer/widower Maggie(26) dtr./not married/seamstress-Mary J. Dowd(8) gd Farranmacfarrell Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household Healy Patrick(43) shoemaker Ellen(43) wife-Ellen(17)-William(12)-Margret(9)-Michael(6) Farranmacfarrell Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household Kennedy Edward(64) farmer Margaret(54) wife-James(22)-Margaret(17)-Joseph(14)-Mary Barns(84) mother in law/widow Farranmacfarrell Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household Kilcullen Anne(65) farmer/widow Owen(22)-Sarah(20)-Thomas(50) boarder/farm labourer/widower NOTE no relationship to Anne indicated Farranmacfarrell Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household Kilgannon Patt(66) farmer Bridget(55) wife-Bridget(27)-Kate(23)-Dan(21)-John(17)-Pat(16)-Sarah(12) Farranmacfarrell Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household Kilgannon Patrick(58) farmer Elizabeth(50) wife-Julia(12)-Teresa(9)-Patrick Connolly(17) stepson Farranmacfarrell Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household Kilgannon Pat(46) farmer Bridget(36) wife-John(15)-James(14)-Lizzie(12)-Thomas(10)-Tim(9)-Bridget(8)-Galah?(7) dtr.-Anthony(6)-Owen(4)-Winney(3) Farranmacfarrell Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household Kilroy Mary(60) farmer/widow John(35)-William(25)-Jane(21)-Edward(19)-Cilia(16) Farranmacfarrell Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household McDonnell James(24) farmer Bridget(28) wife-Mary Anne(4)-John(2)-Catherine(60) mother/widow Farranmacfarrell Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household McGee Martin(60) farmer Betty(62) wife/born Co. Mayo-Laurence(28)-Bessy(21)-Marty(18) Farranmacfarrell Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household McHugh James(33) farmer/shopkeeper wife(30) name illegible maybe Mary-John(3)-Mary Kate(2)-Bridget A.(2mo.)-Margaret Dowd(29) sister in law/not married/visitor Farranmacfarrell Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household McKenzie Thomas(66) farmer Ellen(45) wife-John(22)-Anne(18)-Thomas(13) Farranmacfarrell Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household Neary Bartley(60) farmer Catherine(36) wife-John(5) Farranmacfarrell Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household Neary Michael(50) farmer Mary(39) wife-Pat(18)-Honoria(16)-Peety(14)-James(12)-Michael(10)-Mary(8)-Mathew(5)-Kate(2) Farranmacfarrell Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household Quinn Pat(55) farmer Bridget(40) wife-Thomas(20)-Micheal(17)-Ellen(15)-Frank(12)-James(9) Farranmacfarrell Kilmacshalgan Tireragh Sligo Household Sweeny/Sweeney Thomas(65) farmer/widower Mary(35) dtr./married-Pat(30) dtr./not married 33 Total Matches http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/index.shtml Additionally, the Valuation Office in Dublin & their website can be an excellent resource for those fortunate researchers who know where their ancestors actually lived in Ireland. Research can be carried out for rural areas if, at a minimum, you know the name of the county, the name of the townland and the name of the person or family. Research for cities and towns require the name of the street, in addition. The Valuation Office set up to carry out the original Primary Valuation, is still in existence at the Irish Life Centre, Abbey St. Lower, Dublin 1 (prev. at Ely Place) and has two related sets of records which are potentially quite valuable. The first of these are the notebooks used by the original Valuation surveyors, consisting of "field books," "house book" and "tenure books." All three record a map reference for the holdings they deal with, as in the published Valuation. The fields books then record information on the size and quality of the holding, the house books record the occupiers' names and the measurement of any buildings on their holdings, and the tenure books give the annual rent paid and the legal basis on which the holding is occupied, whether by lease or at will. The tenure books also give the YEAR OF ANY LEASE, useful to know before searching estate papers or the Registry of Deeds. As well as containing information such as this, which does not appear in the published Valuation, the valuers' notebooks can also be useful in documenting any changes in occupation between the initial survey and the published results, for instance, if a family emigrated in the years immediately before publication, since they pre-date the final publication itself by several years. Unfortunately they are not extant for all areas. The National Archives now houses those which survive for the Republic of Ireland. Those covering Northern Ireland are now to be found in the Public Record Office of Northern Ireland. The Valuation Office in Dublin contains the second set of useful records. These are the "Cancelled Land Books" and "Current Land Books," giving details of all changes in the holdings, from the time of the primary valuation up to the present day. Any variations in the size or status of the holding, the names of the occupier or lessor, or the valuation itself, are given in the revisions carried out every few years. The Books can be very useful in helping to clarify a possible time of death, date of emigration or identifying a living relative. Per Irish genealogy expert and author, John GRENHAM, a large majority of those who were in occupation of a holding by the 1890s, when the Land Acts begin to subsidize the purchase of the land by its tenant-farmers, HAVE DESCENDANTS OR RELATIVES STILL LIVING IN THE SAME AREA. The Cancelled Land Books for Northern Ireland are now in the Public Record Office of Northern Ireland. As I understand it, you can conduct your own research or have the Valuation Office do it. There is a fee involved. Check their website for details at http://www.valoff.ie/Genealogy.htm I believe they have data going back to the Griffith's (mid-1800's) valuations up to the present. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray Briggs To: jeanrice@cet.com Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 1:35 PM Subject: Land Owners in Sligo, Ireland-I need your help Hi Jean, I am doing my family research in Sligo, Ireland-I am trying to find out information on a Beglane family who lived in Sligo and raised a large family there. Their Family home is still there and is up for sale by a relative. The property is described as a cottage here: Property Description Beautiful old style cottage sitting on 14.5 acres of top quality land, with large yard and sheds. Cottage is in need of modernization, but offers huge potential, Also there is a very nice building site, with great road access. All Local amenities are with in 5 mins of this property, this property is only 1.5 miles from the Village of Dromore West Village. Located in Farrellmacfarrell, Dromore West, Co. Sligo I am hoping that you can provide some information on the names on the deed, etc. They originally came from Farmacfarrell, Dromore West Co. Sligo, Ireland. I cannot get any information or data on them from Sligo, Ireland and I believe the data is there since they lived in Sligo from the late 1880s through the early 1920s The family members who lived here are:: Father: James Beglane Mother: Bridget Gilroy Children who remained in Sligo: -Joseph -Edward (Eddie) (b.1898 d. 11/20/69) Children who went to Scotland: -Nora (d. 8/25/1928) -Bridget Jr. Children who went to USA-(I got their Ellis Island records and some USA census records) -Owen (b. 1893 d. 1969) -Michael (b. 1900 d. 1956) -Ellen (b. 1901 d. 1979) -James Jr. (b. 1904 d. 1980) -Mary ( b. 1906 ) -Ann Mary (b. 1907 d. 1983) I will appreciate all help. Sincerely, RayBriggs9999@yahoo.com Ray Briggs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Briggs" <raybriggs9999@yahoo.com> To: <IRELANDGENWEB@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 10:50 AM Subject: [Irish Genealogy] Beglane Families in Sligo, Ireland Is there anyone researching the Beglane families from Ireland ? Ray Briggs