Hi Alice - (See Query below). Are you sure he was in a UK military service as opposed to a non-UK branch of the service? Could Bartholomew have been his middle name? If not, what was his middle name? Apparently he survived to emigrate? Have you "googled" Ballymacoda and/or Ladysbridge to see if you can find anything more? Perhaps the person below is a relative. I found a handful of Murrays (but not Bartholomew) on a service search engine at http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/default.htm website, with only one born in Ladysbridge, Cork, although I believe I read that some records are not on line. I didn't stop to see what the date below meant, birth or date of service, etc. You can send for that on line, I believe, if you are curious, and there is also a "contact us" form on the website where you send in a question; perhaps someone there can help you for a nominal sum. Perhaps he also went by "Bart" somewhere along the line. Do you care to share here the information you found on his family on the 1901 Cork census? Did you find that census on line? Description Name Murray, Patrick Official Number: 279807 Place of Birth: Ladysbridge, Cork Date 01 October 1873 Catalogue reference ADM 188/446 Dept Records of the Admiralty, Naval Forces, Royal Marines, Coastguard, and related bodies Series Admiralty: Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services Piece 279501-280000 Image contains 1 document of many for this catalogue reference ----- Original Message ----- From: dmrkls@aol.com To: jeanrice@cet.com Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 1:04 PM Subject: British Navy cont'd Jean, thank you for you indepth reply and referrals about the Irish serving in British Navy. My Grandpa, Bartholomew (Batt) Murray was born in Ballymacoda, Ladysbridge, Co Cork on 2/28/1877. We have never found him on the 1901 Cork census (although we did find his folks). We assumed it was because he was serving in the Navy at that time. He had left Ireland for Boston by 1903 (so he doesn't show up on the 1911 Co Cork census). Other than his baptism, we have never found any record of him. I had hoped there would be a listing of the fellows serving in the British Navy, like perhaps at the time of the 1901 census, all the ships would have had to turn in a roster of folks serving on the ship so they could be counted. I could not find an LDS microfilm to search for this. He would have been just an ordinary deck hand, I'm sure. Any suggestions about where to look for ships' rosters? He did not serve in the Boer War actually as he said it was over by the time his ship got there. Also he claimed to have "jumpd ship"; does that mean I might find him on a listing of deserters? Thank you, Alice. ----- Original Message ----- From: <dmrkls@aol.com> To: <irelandgenweb@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [Irish Genealogy] question about British Navy > Is there a way to track the Irish lads who served in the British Navy?? my > Grampa supposedly served in such out of Cork Harbor around the time of the > Boer Wars in Africa. Thank you for any leads. Alice