http://www.landedestates.ie/LandedEstates/jsp/ A searchable comprehensive and integrated resource guide to landed estates and gentry houses in Connacht, c. 1700-1914. The aim of the guide is to assist and support researchers working on the social, economic, political and cultural history of Connacht from c.1700 to 1914. (My note: Other locations are often mentioned, so you might want to check your surnames - especially, if you suspect your ancestors were fairly well off.) IRISH PROVINCES CONNAUGHT: Cos. Galway, Leitrim, Mayo, Roscommon and Sligo. LEINSTER: Cos. Carlow, Dublin, Kildare, Kilkenny, Laois (Leix/Queen's Co), Longford, Louth, Meath, Offaly (King's Co.), Westmeath, Wexford and Wicklow. MUNSTER: Cos. Clare, Cork, Kerry, Limerick, Tipperary and Waterford. ULSTER: Divided in two sections -- (1) Northern Ireland with Cos. Antrim, Armagh, Derry/Londonderry, Down, Fermanagh and Tyrone. (2) Republic of Ireland with Cos. Cavan, Donegal and Monaghan. Jean

The Surname Registries on the Ireland GenWeb website have been updated. Much thanks goes to Kathy Snowberger who keeps them updated. You can access the registries by going to the Ireland GenWeb website at: http://www.irelandgenweb.com/ If you submitted a name and want to change or update the info or you found a mistake you want to correct, please submit a new form and put CHANGE in the field needing the change. Thank you. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

THE BRIDGE TO AMERICA On board the rotting coffin ships they fingered icons, beads, invoked the Sacred Heart of Christ, my Sligo forbears, proud in rags, with mouths of crooked teeth, the meek who dared inherit earth. Unswayed by intimations scrawled across prophetic winds they hailed the solitude of stars. At last a landfall came in view, a dark expanse of coast, this brooding New Hibernia. I picture them on rundown wharfs, the greenhorns striking out for Canaans all across the land. Pretenders to the whirlwind night, the vast unchosen staked their claims, the meek who dared inherit earth. -- T. S. Kerrigan

AFTER BRECHT In this dark pub on Capel Street I find the people I like most - Like weathered statues among the smoke, With worn and chipped features, Skin weathered and stained as the mahogany bar. None will ever make the cover of a glossy magazine, The stomachs strained by too much beer, Faces wrinkled as an unfolded map, Calling above the amplified guitars, banging tables Shouting out lyrics, falling over. The women laugh as the young men chat them up Behind a curtain of cigarette smoke And their husbands jostle at the bar. These are the containers who carry life, All a bit bruised, broken and part-mended, Fuelled by alcohol, music and dreams. -- Mr. Pat Quigley, author of novel "Borderland" (1994), born Monaghan, living in Dublin.

REVIEWS -- 1. "Every year from Scotland, from Ireland and from Wales young men flock in hundreds to London. They are of all classes, all degrees of education, united in one common aim, that, namely, of making a living ... debarred by lack of means from lodgings where the rate of payment is high, and yet compelled to be near the great industrial centres where chance jobs may be easily picked up, they and their families are automatically forced into slum dwellings..." Excerpt, "Irish Migrants in Britain 1815-1914," (2002) edited by Roger SWIFT, Cork University Press. Many Irishmen and women had a different fate, those 'whose brilliant talents often enable them to rise from small posts to places of high emolument and power.' Per review, "This is a unique anthology comprising extracts from parliamentary papers, social surveys, letters, newspapers and reminiscences which explore the experiences of Irish emigrants to all parts of rural and urban Britain in this period. Annoted to further reading." H/b. 2. "W&R JACOB, Celebrating 150 Years of Biscuit Making," by Seamas O Maitiu, The Woodfield Press, Dublin. P/b. "The first cracker biscuits to appear in Ireland, in 1880, were imports from Marsh and Company, an American firm. These were called "Niagra Crackers" and were sufficiently popular to cause the long-established Dublin biscuit makers W&R JACOB to send young George JACOB to the USA to investigate. Inside five years, JACOB's had their best seller, the "Cream Cracker." The product went to the battle front in huge quantities during WWI. In the course of the Easter rising (1916) their main factory was taken over by a group of rebels under the leadership of Thomas MacDONAGH. Their crackers and their very elaborate biscuit tins are mentioned in the pages of James JOYCE. The first Aer Lingus spare parts were handily housed in a JACOB's tin during the maiden flight of the Iolar in 1936. JACOB's were one of the earliest to use radio advertising, in particular, with the format of the sponsor show; for many years their public relations representative, the honey-voiced Ms. Frankie BYRNE, who gave advice to the love-crossed at one o'clock each Tuesday, her sagacity sweetened by an unfading admiration for Frank SINATRA, no other music was permitted on the show." 3. "Transatlantic Triumph and Heroic Failure, The Galway Line," by Tim COLLINS, The Collins Press. "In the 1850s, while Ireland was still reeling from famine and pestilence, a Catholic parish priest, Fr. Peter DALY and a Manchester businessman, John Orrell LEVER initiated a steamship line between Galway and America. Fr. DAY was Chairman of the Galway Town Commissioners and Director of the Galway Gas Company which supplied power and public lighting to the town from as early as 1837. On the board of the Midland & Great Western Railway Co., he saw to it that the Dublin line terminated in the town centre and was completed by the building of a magnificent hotel, in Eyre Square. He built schools and churches and clashed regularly with his ecclesiastical superiors. The Galway line owned 16 ocean-going ships at one time or another and sailed under a red St. George's cross with a gold harp in its centre on a green background. The venture lasted from about 1858 to 1864, carried over 30,000 passengers and lost 500,000 pounds, an enormous sum for that time! Mr. COLLINS has done well by producing the first account of this extraordinary venture, complete with the music and words of the poems and ballads which are almost its sole remains, per book review." P/b.

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I am stuck on my lineage guess it will stay that way, John HYLAND (Highland/Hiland/Highlund) born abt 1827-28 Ireland or No Ireland. Married abt 1850-1858 Ireland? Scotland? England? to a Mary or Maria Urquhart/Dwyer/Wallace/Shaw/ Ferguson. By 1860 they were in IL USA near Bloomington in McLean Co. They had a daughter Elizabeth born abt 1860 IL? England? Scotland? Ireland? I have never been able to find a Ships Passenger List or a copy of a marriage record or birth record for Elizabeth. The marriage record for Elizabeth does not give parents names nor does her death record. Nor that of her sister Mary Hyland who married my dads' great-grandfather Millard Filmore Coleman 1884 Yates Center Woodson Co KS. Also had other sisters Margaret married Abram Riley Lindamood, Elizabeth married Aaron H. Martin, Katherin married Alfred George Osborn Blenkarn/Blenkam. Neither of their death records indicate a mothers' name. Who was this elusive Mary or Maria? The reason I list the possible surname of Ferguson is because my fathers' middle name was Ferguson as was his fathers' middle name. My father was Thomas Ferguson Coleman Jr., his father was Thomas Ferguson Coleman Sr. Where that name came from I have no clue and absolutely no idea. Can anyone help me fathom this long standing mystery? Does anyone know this story? John Hyland died 1878 Woodson Co KS as a widower leaving 6 children who were "Farmed Out" his wife said having died circa or about 1872 possibly in child birth. They also had a son Thomas Patrick who I have both a marriage record and death record for he married Harriett "Hattie" Essarey. Also another son James who was living in another small community in Woodson Co and was an "apprentice carpenter" in 1880, I lost track of him at age 16 in this census document.

SNIPPET: In 1820, Fr. Thomas HORE (24) of Wexford visited America. More than two decades later, as the Famine ravaged Ireland, Fr. HORE became deeply concerned about his followers and felt strongly that America offered them their best chance for survival. Fr. HORE led 450 of his followers to New Orleans, LA, planning to buy land in AR. When Arkansas did not welcome them, HORE instead took his people to St. Louis, MO, and then went on ahead to IA to buy 3,000 acres of land. Upon returning for the group, however, he discovered that many had joined the CA gold rush, while others were happy in St. Louis. Still, a dozen families followed HORE to IA, where they founded the new community of Wexford. (As I recall, one of his BREEN families helped to establish Wexford, IA). There is a chapter on Fr. HORE and his flock in Edward Laxton's book, "The Famine Ships," (1996).

Down on the Shore William Allingham, 1824-1889 Down on the shore, on the sunny shore! Where the salt smell cheers the land; Where the tide moves bright under boundless light, And the surge on the glittering strand; Where the children wade in the shallow pools, Or run from the froth in play; Where the swift little boats with milk-white wings Are crossing the sapphire bay, And the ship in full sail, with a fortunate gale, Holds proudly on her way; Where the nets are spread on the grass to dry, And asleep, hard by, the fishermen lie, Under the tent of the warm blue sky, With the hushing wave on its golden floor To sing their lullaby. Down on the shore, on the stormy shore! Beset by a growling sea, Whose mad waves leap on the rocky steep Like wolves up a traveller's tree; Where the foam flies wide, and an angry blast Blows the curlew off, with a screech; Where the brown sea-wrack, torn up by the roots, Is flung out of fishes' reach; And the tall ship rolls on the hidden shoals, And scatters her planks on the beach; Where slate and straw through the village spin, And a cottage fronts the fiercest din With a sailor's wife sitting sad within, Hearkening the wind and the water's roar, Till at last her tears begin.

SNIPPET: The secret to genealogy is to concentrate on research in the KNOWN places the individuals lived and work backwards in time. This important step cannot be skipped, as you just can't assume that someone with the same name in records is one of "yours." Serendipity: My research includes Ireland and England. I found people who actually knew my families or recognized that their ancestors had been neighbors, when I began including known addresses in my posts. One English gentleman recognized an address and contacted me. It seems he had an early 1930's photo of my paternal English grandmother with his family that was taken when he was just a young boy. My grandmother had returned to England from America to visit some relatives, and both families lived in the same neighborhood. Turns out that I had in my possession an old photo of his father and my paternal uncle in their WW-I uniforms! On another occasion, I left a detailed e-mail inquiry at a boy's school in England where I thought some relations may have attended. To my amazement, I received a trans-Atlantic call from a retired English teacher-historian-author-photographer with a wonderful accent who knew my relatives very well! He sent me a copy of his published town history; enclosed inside was an old wedding photo of my father's eldest brother that included several other family members. It meant so much to me! In reference to Ireland - a good clue can be an unusual first or middle name, which might be mother's maiden ("nee") surname found among the well-educated individuals in older records. Unusual given names can be good clues as names were passed down from generation to generation. Catholic records reveal only about a hundred given names that are used over and over again. Old church records have been microfilmed and available at LDS (Mormon) FHCs and the "sponsors" and "witnesses" appear to be family members as they have the same surnames. Names are often in Latin, but identifiable. Some of these original church record books have been filmed and can be viewed at local LDS (Mormon) Family History Centers. I was able to request a copy of a Carrick-on-Shannon district microfilm that contained a legible St. Patrick's Chapel, Drumshanbo, Co. Leitrim church book. To request the film and view it only cost me less than three dollars, and the helpful church volunteers were able to make photocopies of the microfilmed pages in the book I was interested in to take back home. Not referring to names found in old records here, but in rural communities, some Catholic Irish were known by their middle name or identified by a nickname or handle that signified who their father was or even what occupation the family was known for. Did they emigrate to America? Contact the county historical society in the USA county in which your family resided for some time, ask for their help in finding documents on your particular families such as wills. I have had great success with this. Circa 1900 marriage applications provide, in some instances, information on the PARENTS of the bride and groom. This seems to depend on what county you are researching in. Land records often gave last place lived. Other documents might include court records of property disputes, naturalization, cemetery records, b/m/d abstracts, newspaper clippings, census extracts, etc. Almost every document they come up with will provide you with new information. County historical societies have ready access to old maps with settlers' names, books and publications of their own and others. Periodicals published by USA county historical societies have every-name indices in their winter issues which they can quickly refer to. (Check and see if your local genealogy library has some of these issues.) An initial investment in this way may very well give you a solid underpinning for your own research. Census and cemetery records are valuable for discovering related family members. Check and see who "the neighbors" are on USA census records. Individuals often married neighbors and/or moved from state to state with other relatives. Widows, spinsters, elderly and/or infirmed relatives, related children, often ended up living in their grown children's homes or right next door. Family members were often buried in the same cemetery. Some old USA rural route directories have been scanned to the Internet including http://www.distantcousin.com/ Have you tried sending away for microfilmed old USA newspapers to look for death notices? If a definite date is known, request the newspapers for the two days following the death via your reference librarian and the free interlibrary loan program. The librarian has references to tell her which microfilmed newspapers to request for a particular location and time period. Death notices may further provide details on a location in Ireland and give names and locations of related living relatives you may not be aware of. Check carefully, as death notices and obituaries may appear on separate pages! It is possible that a death notice appeared in a newspaper where they formerly lived, as well. Your reference librarian can also help you obtain old USA county history books in addition to those found on the shelves. To my amazement, I found two page on my Indiana kin in an old county history book. They were early settlers, belonged to church and community groups (agriculture, political, educational, fraternal, women's organizations, and some served in the American Civil War as 100-day volunteers. Another resource: While I only had a general idea of where and when a death had occured, in some cases, I also found many of my American relations listed on local genealogy library microfilmed death indices. The films are organized by state and approximate 10-year increments, names are alphabetical and soundexed. (Check and see what years they cover, but I recall finding several of my deceased aunts and uncles on these microfilms.) Data given includes name of deceased, place of death (may have to rewind film to beginning for location code), age at death, name of a living spouse, and the number of the death certificate. With the latter, I was able to contact state and county archival libraries and request photocopies of old death certificates. I think that I only paid a quarter a copy. Contact living relatives to find out what they know about the family history. Ask for their help. Perhaps there are clues in the old photo albums. There may be an important notation on the back of an old picture - or, in the case of a formal photograph, the studio's name and location. Leave a detailed query on a Rootsweb Message Board, particularly, a surname board. Go back and correct, if necessary, a former note, adding any new information. U. S. Federal Census data in book form can be found in genealogy libraries on the Reference shelves, divided by state and census year. Data extends back to the time of the Revolutionary War and forward (depending on a particular state) to as late as 1900. Have you checked the more recent U. S. Federal Censuses? Even if parents are deceased, their children may have given the enumerator a particular county or province in Ireland when asked for place of birth of each parent. It does appear in some instances (1920?), that census enumerators recorded more specifics such as a particular county, "No. Ireland" or "Free State" (Republic) for place of birth. While it may not be correct, it could actually help to confirm family lore passed down through generations. Many USA Federal Censuses give date of immigration and/or years in country, whether naturalized ("na"), date of naturalization, whether still an "alien," or "pa," indicating that first papers towards citizenship were completed. The latest American census available for research is 1930. Branches of the National Archives are a good resource. One might even consider a subscription to the Ancestry.com website. They seem to now offer subscriptions of varying length and expense. Last, but not least, you might want to search your surname and area of interest at E-Bay, from time to time, as many military medals, old letters, postcards and stamps come up for sale. You never know what you might find. As an example, a WW-I silver British War Medal (Liverpool Regiment) for a Cpl. W. LILLIOTT with military card (#20399) is presently advertised today as a "quick buy," and I would think that a family member researcher would be thrilled to obtain same. J. Jean

SWEET JESUS Sweetest Jesus, gracious, free, That was stretched upon the tree, Now and ever with us be, And us shield from sin; Let Thou not to hell land draw They that be herein. So bright of face, Thou hearest me, Hope of all mankind. Grant us sight of Trinity And heaven's land to see. This world, its love is gone away, Like dew on grass in summer's day, Few there be-eth, wellaway, That loveth God His lore. All we be-eth shrunk as clay, We should rue that sore; Prince and ruler, what think they, To live evermore? Leave thy play and crieth aye: "Jesus Christ, thy grace!" Alas, alas, ye wealthy men, Why will ye fill with muck your den? Thinketh ye to bear it hence? Nay, as I may thrive! Ye shall see that all is dross, The chattel of this life. To Christ ye run and to Him kneel

The following sites have proven beneficial in researching my Irish roots. Ask About Ireland (www.askaboutireland.ie Click on Griffiths) is a free site that provides the ability to search the Griffiths Valuation and display results in a manner that I previously had only experienced at the National Library in Dublin. It can be searched by name or place name (County, Parish, townland). It can display the actual Valuation pages. In so doing you see not only the individual but also all of his/her neighbors. This site seems to have a more complete listing of individuals than the one below. Irish Family Heritage Foundation (IFHF) (www.brsgenealogy.com). You must register to use the site. Although this site starts out free, once you get down to requesting to see a specific record it costs you 5 euro per record. This cost can be minimized however by using "known" information to eliminate many of the records that most likely don't apply. The site allows you to search by name for Griffiths Valuation, Birth, Marriage or Death records. Knowing the approximate date (+/- 4 years) of the event narrows the potential records. There is then the ability to further limit the number of records by County,Parish and Father's first and last name. Good hunting> > > -----Original Message-----> From: WSULLIVW@aol.com> To: IrelandGenWeb-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 6:14 am> Subject: [Irish Genealogy] SULLIVAN research> > > > > Looking for home place of my SULLIVAN clan. Family lore has the family > coming from somewhere in County Cork. Earliest documentation that I have is > the > 1880 Lackawanna County Pennsylvania census that my Great Great Uncle Michael > (Mitchel) SULLIVAN (SULLEVAN) was living in Old Forge, Lackawanna Co PA. He > was then 55 years old born in Ireland a miner. Living with him at the time was > his wife Margaret DISKIN SULLIVAN 40 also born in Ireland; his mother Mary > SULLEVAN 78 and 6 children all born after 1872. Michael c 1825-1892 his wife > Margaret DISKIN SULLIVAN c 1844-1905: Michael mother Mary SULLIVAN died before > 1900. They were Roman Catholic and parishioners of St. Joseph RC Church in > Minooka, PA. > My great grandfather Patrick SULLIVAN was born c 1842 and died 1903 > Taylorville, Scranton PA. Earliest info indicates that Patrick emigrated to > Rhymney > Wales and married Ellen CUMMINS (CUMMINGS) (1845-1927) in Bedwellt, Monmouth > Wales 1863. Patrick was also a miner and worked in the Iron Works in Rhymney. > Two of their children Mary 1864 and Ellen 1865 were born in Wales. Patrick > was born in Ireland and Ellen CUMMINGS was born in Wales of Irish parents. > Patrick SULLIVAN brother Florence SULLIVAN c 1845-1909 (my great granduncle) > was also found working in Wales as a miner. His death certificate indicated > his parents were John SULLIVAN and Julia SULLIVAN. Florence SULLIVAN married > Ellen GLYNN 1849-1913 about 1875 in Taylorville, Scranton PA. > While I have been able to trace most of the family in later years I am > unable to find their origin in Ireland. Looking for any suggestions and > comments. > Thank you in advance.> **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De> cemailfooterNO62)> Check out the Ireland GenWeb website at: http://www.irelandgenweb.com/> It is a good place to get help with your> family research.> Help wanted: County Coordinators> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELANDGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message> > Check out the Ireland GenWeb website at: http://www.irelandgenweb.com/> It is a good place to get help with your family research.> Help wanted: County Coordinators> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELANDGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_howitworks_012009

is there a link to the place we can find the bank records. Tammy dmrkls@aol.com wrote: > I had a bit of luck when?I found an ancestor kept money in the Emigrant Savings Bank..some old bank records are online now....banks back then had handwritten entries, of course and there was a column for personal notes ...lo and behold! Miles Cardiff wrote his old birth address in County Wexford Ireland!......did you try the church record of his burial, any naturalization papers?and his full death certificate?...amf > > > -----Original Message----- > From: WSULLIVW@aol.com > To: IrelandGenWeb-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 6:14 am > Subject: [Irish Genealogy] SULLIVAN research > > > > > Looking for home place of my SULLIVAN clan. Family lore has the family > coming from somewhere in County Cork. Earliest documentation that I have is > the > 1880 Lackawanna County Pennsylvania census that my Great Great Uncle Michael > (Mitchel) SULLIVAN (SULLEVAN) was living in Old Forge, Lackawanna Co PA. He > was then 55 years old born in Ireland a miner. Living with him at the time was > his wife Margaret DISKIN SULLIVAN 40 also born in Ireland; his mother Mary > SULLEVAN 78 and 6 children all born after 1872. Michael c 1825-1892 his wife > Margaret DISKIN SULLIVAN c 1844-1905: Michael mother Mary SULLIVAN died before > 1900. They were Roman Catholic and parishioners of St. Joseph RC Church in > Minooka, PA. > My great grandfather Patrick SULLIVAN was born c 1842 and died 1903 > Taylorville, Scranton PA. Earliest info indicates that Patrick emigrated to > Rhymney > Wales and married Ellen CUMMINS (CUMMINGS) (1845-1927) in Bedwellt, Monmouth > Wales 1863. Patrick was also a miner and worked in the Iron Works in Rhymney. > Two of their children Mary 1864 and Ellen 1865 were born in Wales. Patrick > was born in Ireland and Ellen CUMMINGS was born in Wales of Irish parents. > Patrick SULLIVAN brother Florence SULLIVAN c 1845-1909 (my great granduncle) > was also found working in Wales as a miner. His death certificate indicated > his parents were John SULLIVAN and Julia SULLIVAN. Florence SULLIVAN married > Ellen GLYNN 1849-1913 about 1875 in Taylorville, Scranton PA. > While I have been able to trace most of the family in later years I am > unable to find their origin in Ireland. Looking for any suggestions and > comments. > Thank you in advance. > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De > cemailfooterNO62) > Check out the Ireland GenWeb website at: http://www.irelandgenweb.com/ > It is a good place to get help with your > family research. > Help wanted: County Coordinators > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELANDGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > Check out the Ireland GenWeb website at: http://www.irelandgenweb.com/ > It is a good place to get help with your family research. > Help wanted: County Coordinators > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELANDGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Me again. I just did the "second surname" search at that website, and apparently the ONLY location on the Primary Valuation where both SULLIVAN and DISKIN households were found in the same civil parish was in Co. Galway. You can find out more with a small fee at that website. http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/ If they married in Ireland, rather than in Wales or the USA, then that could really narrow it down. I didn't try any other variations on the "second surname" search, such as O'SULLIVAN or DISKEN, etc. Jean ---- Original Message ----- From: "Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com> To: <irelandgenweb@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [Irish Genealogy] SULLIVAN research - DISKIN surname (and var.) > Hi There - Do you know whether or not the marriage of Michael SULLIVAN and > Margaret DISKIN took place in Ireland? <snip>

Hi There - Do you know whether or not the marriage of Michael SULLIVAN and Margaret DISKIN took place in Ireland? Perhaps they met and married in Co. Galway or Co. Roscommon? Have you checked any USA Federal Censuses to find date of emigration or number of years in America? Per http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/ Households - Primary Valuation of Ireland (1848-64) DISKIN - 36 in Co. Galway, 4 in Co. Roscommon DISCAN - 8 in Co. Galway, 1 in Co. Mayo DISCON - 2 in Co. Galway DISKEN - 1 in Co. Galway. Anyway, interesting surname, don't recall hearing it before. You can check more on SULLIVAN and DISKIN at the above "Irish Times" newspaper ancestor search page. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: <WSULLIVW@aol.com> To: <IrelandGenWeb-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 6:14 AM Subject: [Irish Genealogy] SULLIVAN research > > Looking for home place of my SULLIVAN clan. Family lore has the family > coming from somewhere in County Cork. Earliest documentation that I > have is the > 1880 Lackawanna County Pennsylvania census that my Great Great Uncle > Michael > (Mitchel) SULLIVAN (SULLEVAN) was living in Old Forge, Lackawanna Co PA. > He > was then 55 years old born in Ireland a miner. Living with him at the > time was > his wife Margaret DISKIN SULLIVAN 40 also born in Ireland

I had a bit of luck when?I found an ancestor kept money in the Emigrant Savings Bank..some old bank records are online now....banks back then had handwritten entries, of course and there was a column for personal notes ...lo and behold! Miles Cardiff wrote his old birth address in County Wexford Ireland!......did you try the church record of his burial, any naturalization papers?and his full death certificate?...amf -----Original Message----- From: WSULLIVW@aol.com To: IrelandGenWeb-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 6:14 am Subject: [Irish Genealogy] SULLIVAN research Looking for home place of my SULLIVAN clan. Family lore has the family coming from somewhere in County Cork. Earliest documentation that I have is the 1880 Lackawanna County Pennsylvania census that my Great Great Uncle Michael (Mitchel) SULLIVAN (SULLEVAN) was living in Old Forge, Lackawanna Co PA. He was then 55 years old born in Ireland a miner. Living with him at the time was his wife Margaret DISKIN SULLIVAN 40 also born in Ireland; his mother Mary SULLEVAN 78 and 6 children all born after 1872. Michael c 1825-1892 his wife Margaret DISKIN SULLIVAN c 1844-1905: Michael mother Mary SULLIVAN died before 1900. They were Roman Catholic and parishioners of St. Joseph RC Church in Minooka, PA. My great grandfather Patrick SULLIVAN was born c 1842 and died 1903 Taylorville, Scranton PA. Earliest info indicates that Patrick emigrated to Rhymney Wales and married Ellen CUMMINS (CUMMINGS) (1845-1927) in Bedwellt, Monmouth Wales 1863. Patrick was also a miner and worked in the Iron Works in Rhymney. Two of their children Mary 1864 and Ellen 1865 were born in Wales. Patrick was born in Ireland and Ellen CUMMINGS was born in Wales of Irish parents. Patrick SULLIVAN brother Florence SULLIVAN c 1845-1909 (my great granduncle) was also found working in Wales as a miner. His death certificate indicated his parents were John SULLIVAN and Julia SULLIVAN. Florence SULLIVAN married Ellen GLYNN 1849-1913 about 1875 in Taylorville, Scranton PA. While I have been able to trace most of the family in later years I am unable to find their origin in Ireland. Looking for any suggestions and comments. Thank you in advance. **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) Check out the Ireland GenWeb website at: http://www.irelandgenweb.com/ It is a good place to get help with your family research. Help wanted: County Coordinators ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELANDGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Looking for home place of my SULLIVAN clan. Family lore has the family coming from somewhere in County Cork. Earliest documentation that I have is the 1880 Lackawanna County Pennsylvania census that my Great Great Uncle Michael (Mitchel) SULLIVAN (SULLEVAN) was living in Old Forge, Lackawanna Co PA. He was then 55 years old born in Ireland a miner. Living with him at the time was his wife Margaret DISKIN SULLIVAN 40 also born in Ireland; his mother Mary SULLEVAN 78 and 6 children all born after 1872. Michael c 1825-1892 his wife Margaret DISKIN SULLIVAN c 1844-1905: Michael mother Mary SULLIVAN died before 1900. They were Roman Catholic and parishioners of St. Joseph RC Church in Minooka, PA. My great grandfather Patrick SULLIVAN was born c 1842 and died 1903 Taylorville, Scranton PA. Earliest info indicates that Patrick emigrated to Rhymney Wales and married Ellen CUMMINS (CUMMINGS) (1845-1927) in Bedwellt, Monmouth Wales 1863. Patrick was also a miner and worked in the Iron Works in Rhymney. Two of their children Mary 1864 and Ellen 1865 were born in Wales. Patrick was born in Ireland and Ellen CUMMINGS was born in Wales of Irish parents. Patrick SULLIVAN brother Florence SULLIVAN c 1845-1909 (my great granduncle) was also found working in Wales as a miner. His death certificate indicated his parents were John SULLIVAN and Julia SULLIVAN. Florence SULLIVAN married Ellen GLYNN 1849-1913 about 1875 in Taylorville, Scranton PA. While I have been able to trace most of the family in later years I am unable to find their origin in Ireland. Looking for any suggestions and comments. Thank you in advance. **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)

CONTINGENCIES Waiting in the kitchen for power cuts, on this wet night, sorting candles, feeling the tallow, brings back to me the way women spoke in my childhood -- with a sweet mildness in front of company, or with a private hunger in whispered kisses or with the crisis-bright words which meant you and you alone were their object -- "Stop that." "Wait till I get you." "Dry those tears." I stand the candles in jam jars lined in a row on the table, scalded and dried with a glass cloth; which all last summer were crammed with the fruits of neighborly gardens; stoned plums and damsons, loganberries. -- Eavan BOLAND born Dublin, Ireland, 1944. She has taught at Trinity College, University College, and Bowdoin College, and was a member of the International Writing Program at the University of Iowa. She has published several volumes of poetry, and her poems and essays have appeared in magazines such as 'The New Yorker,' the 'Atlantic,' 'Ploughshares,' the 'Paris Review,' and the 'American Poetry Review.' She reviews for the 'Irish Times,' lives in Dublin with her family. This poem is from "Outside History, selected poems - 1980-1990." (W. W. Norton/1990.

SNIPPET: Frank FORAN, a native of Sheskinacurry, Drumshanbo, Leitrim, wrote this moving account of the wake and funeral of his maternal Grandfather. His Grandfather, a school teacher, died in 1911, and Frank, now also deceased wrote the account in 1912. In it, he describes the scenes at the wake and funeral with the reverence and respect with which the dead were treated. The account, even though seen through the eyes of a child, is detailed and beautifully written. Frank wrote, "It was the feast of our National Apostle, One Thousand Nine Hundred and Eleven. As my twin brother and I walked down the narrow mountain road from our home, on our way to early Mass in the village church a mile or so distance, we were filled with that joy known only to boys. There were a few reasons for our elation: we were turned out in our Sunday best, to which were added green ties and sprays of shamrock in our caps. It was Friday - an extra day free from school, but the big events to which we looked forward were our marching in the festival procession in the village, led by the bands playing national airs, after which we would go on a visit to the home of our maternal grandparents where we had spent our childhood. Having arrived at the church we took our places in one of the front seats and in a few moments the priest, led by his two servers, arrived from the sacristy to celebrate Mass. He was a tall, fine looking man, in his early sixties, very stern, and more feared than loved by school boys, but known to all to be a very eloquent preacher. Having reached the point when he would make his parish announcements and give his sermon, he turned to the congregation and in his beautiful modulated voice said, 'Your prayers are requested for the repose of the soul of Denis ... who died at his residence this morning. May he rest in peace.' Immediately my brother and I burst into tears and wept bitterly during the remainder of the service and failed to listen to our good priest's sermon on St. Patrick. On our way home kindly neighbours consoled us, so by the time we reached our house we had somewhat recovered from our sorrow. Immediately we entered the living room my brother, in a somewhat loud but quivering voice said: 'Grandfather is dead.' My father, who had just entered from upstairs, turned and reprimanded him for his indiscretion, which after all was due to a boy's lack of tact. Immediately I turned to look at mother who had dropped into a chair and full of silent weeping while her tears dropped quietly on her hands which lay folded on her lap. In a short while she recovered and proceeded to prepare breakfast for everybody, prior to accompanying father to mid-day Mass. After dinner my brother and I rambled up to the top of the hill from which we could hear the bands playing in the village in the valley below, but the music had now lost its appeal. We talked of Grandfather - when would he be buried, and would we be permitted to accompany his remains to the grave. We talked about Mother: why she did not cry as we did on hearing of her father's death: why her stoic acceptance of the sad news? We did not know. On Saturday evening we went with our parents to the 'corpse house.' On entering the little parlour we found Grandmother sitting on a chair facing the door wiping her tear dimmed eyes, and on either side sat my uncle and aunt who had arrived from the city some hours previously. When my brother and I went to her she placed her old hands on our heads and said, 'Go in and see Grandfather.' We went to the bedroom to see death for the first time in our young lives. There he lay clothed in his brown habit. His old hands, clasped as in prayer, rested on his body, and his old rosary beads were entwined in his thin fingers. His eyes were closed as in sleep, his face was pale, but his long white beard had not changed; but when we touched his ice cold face and hands we were filled with a strange fear. We returned to the parlour which had not changed since our childhood days. By the fire side stood the old rocking chair in which grandfather sat and sang old Irish songs - 'The Rising of the Moon' and the "Shean Bhean Bhocht' being his favourites. The circular table still stood on the centre of the floor around which he had us march to the tune of the Boers' March, played on the old piano by one of our musical cousins who would be on a visit. And by the wall stood his library, indicating his literary tastes and scholarship. On the wall over the fireplace stood the old school clock, which he took with him on his retirement and which he never failed to wind each night after he had stood up from the Rosary. On our way down to the kitchen we passed the coat of arms of his family which had passed on to him and which he had fixed in the wall facing the front door, the history of which he related to all visitors who entered his home. Arriving in the kitchen we found his old neighbours, sitting around the big turf fire, smoking new clay pipes filled with fresh tobacco which was handed to each as he came in, and talking in hushed tones about the past. They remembered when Grandfather, with his young wife, came from another parish among them to open their school in an old barn lent by a kindly farmer, and later to move to a new building provided by the educational authorities and from which he would retire 40 years later. They remembered that it was to the 'Master' they came to have their letters written - some perhaps to America in connection with legacies left to them by relatives, others to the Land Commission in connection with settlements under the Purchase Acts, and others came to seek advice on their disputes. And again they remembered that it was in the little school their many children got all they had in secular and moral education which helped them later in life's struggle, when all but the few found themselves swallowed up in the big cities in England or America, and where 'one of the ten' remembered the 'Master and Mistress' by a letter now and then. Next day the funeral took place. Some hours before it was to leave large numbers of relatives and friends arrived, among whom were priests, in tall hats. The parlour and kitchen were filled with people and around Grandfather's bed stood his immediate relatives to look on his face for the last time before his body would be gently laid in the waiting coffin. Outside, large numbers had gathered from the two parishes and here again the clay pipes and tobacco were handed around and the recipient reverently raised his hat and murmured: 'The Lord have mercy on him.' And then a strange thing happened. A strange man standing among the crowd facing the front door commenced to sing, as from a ballad which he held in his hand. He had not got very far with his song when Grandmother appeared from inside and ordered him away; and reluctantly but quietly he disappeared in the crowd. Who he was and why he had come, I never knew. And now the funeral was about to leave. The coffin was reverently raised on to the shoulders of four men bearing the surname of Grandfather, who carried it down the lane which led from the house to the main road, and placed it in the waiting hearse. The driver was dressed in a long black coat, on front of which were two rows of shining brass buttons, and from beneath appeared his shining black leggings and boots. On one of his shoulders hung a large white sash, and around his tall black hat was a wide white ribbon which hung down his back. Looking back from the rear, we saw a long, long line of side cars on which people were taking their seats. The driver stepped up on the box and the cortege started on its five mile journey to the little cemetery on the lake side. It was a cold, dry day with an east wind gale force and overhead a dark leaden sky. We had no shelter from the piercing cold wind except that afforded by the trees and hedges along the road side. When the procession reached the parish border it stopped and a table, on which was a white cloth, was taken from a house and put standing on the road side. The immediate relatives then dismounted from their seats and formed a semi-circle around the table on which people placed their 'offerings.' When the last person had passed and resumed his seat, the cortege continued on its journey. We now came in view of the wide expanse of the lake to the east. Beyond lay the grey bleak hills, while across the intervening angry dark waters came rushing herds of white horses to dash against the boundary wall of the little cemetery below. Having reached the point on the road on which we must stop, the coffin was gently lifted from the hearse and carried on shoulders down the narrow path which led to the burial ground, to be reverently laid in the open grave awaiting it. The priests and relatives gathered around and Father Mick, Grandfather's nephew, gave the service, while someone held an umbrella over his shoulder to offer him the little shelter he could from the gale. Only during a momentary lull could we hear his voice mingling with the gentle sobbing of the women folk. But there were other sounds the storm failed to drown - the thud of the chunks of damp earth as it was being rolled over the coffin. The grave was closed, the final prayers were said, and we returned on the road we had come. I look back and think of the darkness which would in a few hours envelop the cemetery. I think of the winds howling around the ivied walls of the little old church and the angry waters dashing against the cemetery wall. I think of Grandfather lying in his cold grave, never to return to the rocking chair by the cosy fireside, or hear the old school clock ticking on the wall." -- Excerpts, "Leitrim Guardian" periodical(1995),with permission of editorial staff.

More data has been added to the Arles (Killabban) Parish records of Co Laois: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/Baptisms_Index.htm Kind Regards Michael Brennan Carlow IGP: http://www.igp-web.com/carlow/index.htm My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm