Jean and others, I understand that this may or may not be the list for genealogy resources for northern ireland, I would like to know what the best resource might be beyond the Ulster Historical Foundation. Thanks Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean R." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [IGW] National Archives Ireland website -- RESOURCES: ExpandedList -- Cyndi'sList/NationalSchoolRecords/Pensions/Griffith's/CommonwealthWW-I &IIDeaths/Valuation Office > National Archives Ireland > www.nationalarchives.ie > > You can also do a google advanced search with the "phrase" National > Archives > Ireland and it will bring it right up. Have you figured out how to do an > advanced search? It has several features to help cut down on "hits." Look > to the right of the Google box and click on "Go," then click on "advanced > search." Let me know if you have any questions. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shirley Martin" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 7:00 PM > Subject: Re: [IGW] RESOURCES: Expanded List -- <snip> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Robert Ewing 1st B: 1740 Ireland/No Ireland M/1 Jane Unk children: Esther, Samuel, Robert M/2 Jane Bonneau Child: John 1st Can anyone help me with Robert 1st's parents? I am stumped at this time. I have researched Rev Finis Ewing and none of his children had a son by this name. Thanks so much for your help out there. Does anyone have Ancestry.com with Int. Records that can do a look up of a marriage for this man to his first wife that may give me a clue as to where to look. Thanks so much

Hi Roger, are you interested in a particular county? The book "Tracing Your Irish Ancestors," by Irishman John Grenham has a reader-friendly chapter on each and every country in Ireland, explanation of all record types, books, journals, where to find them. Try "googling" his name or title of the book and see if he has some info. from his book on a website or on CD. Civil Records/State registrations of non-Catholic marriages began in Ireland in 1845. All births, deaths and marriages have been registered in Ireland since 1864. Trade Directories: For example Provincial/Trade directories with data on Belfast from 1819-1894 include those by Thomas Bradshaw; J. Pigot; Pigot and Co.; William Matier; Matthew Martin (w/street addresses); Slater's (several between1846-1894) James A. Henderson; Hugh Adair; R. Wynne; 'Derry Almanac' (Portrush only) 1881; G. H. Bassett. You can check out location of repositories for same and perhaps the LDS FHC (Mormon) has microfilmed/microfiched copies of same. The single most important newspaper for Belfast and Ulster was the "Belfast Newsletter" which began publication in 1737. It had a wider geographical range than any of the Dublin papers, covering virtually all of east Ulster. Outside Belfast the most significant publications were the "Londonderry Journal," from 1772, which also covered a good deal of Donegal and Tyrone (and some news from other major Irish cities, including Belfast). The "Londonderry Journal" was published by George DOUGLAS and various partners beginning with issue #1, June 3, 1772, published semi-weekly through May 1, 1781, and weekly thereafter. Perhaps you can locate a copy of Donald M.SCHLEGEL's book, "Irish Genealogical Abstracts from the Londonderry Journal 1772-1784," published a few years ago. With an every-name index, this book is fascinating reading. Few, if any,early issues of the "Newry Journal and Strabane Journal" exist. The best single repository for Irish newspapers is the British Library. After 1826 the Library was obliged to hold a copy of all Irish publications, and from that date its collection is virtually complete. It also has extensive, though patchy, collection before that date. Within Ireland the largest collection is held by the National Library, though by no means comprehensive, and some unique copies are held in local libraries and other repositories. The Public Record Office of Northern Ireland (PRONI) Belfast has published a complete guide, "Northern Ireland Newspapers Checklist with Locations." A number of indices do exist in various repositories to biographical material found in Irish newspapers. Unfortunately, the index to material in the 'Belfast Newsletter" (1737-1800), held by the Linen Hall Library in Belfast, is in chronological order rather than alphabetical order. Several websites have transcriptions from old newspapers including the delightful: Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/ D. J. Owen wrote, "History of Belfast," pub. in Belfast in 1921 a copy of which is in the National Library of Dublin. Robert M Young's books are "Historical Notices of Old Belfast and its Vicinity," pub. 1896, and "The Town Book of the Corporation of Belfast, 1613-1816," pub. 1892. Text from many old books is being put on the web. Google Print announced its first release of "public domain" non-copyright material, through its partnership with numerous libraries with wealth of interesting books. The full text is searchable - Books related to particular surnames and local histories. Because of the copyright protection issue, most of the books are a bit on the old side, which for genealogists, is great. http://print.google.com/ Also FHL Books Online at BYU You can go to the Brigham Young University website http://www.lib.byu.edu/ task; books out of copyright are being done first. Check out some of these websites: www.familysearch.org www.cyndislist.com/ Not sure if the Andrew J. Morris website is still viable, but you can google his name (advanced search/phrase) and see if his transcriptions/services are still offered. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [IGW] Northern Ireland resources > Jean and others, > > I understand that this may or may not be the list for genealogy resources > for northern ireland, I would like to know what the best resource might be > beyond the Ulster Historical Foundation. Thanks > > Roger > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jean R." <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 11:07 PM > Subject: Re: [IGW] National Archives Ireland website -- RESOURCES: > ExpandedList -- > Cyndi'sList/NationalSchoolRecords/Pensions/Griffith's/CommonwealthWW-I > &IIDeaths/Valuation Office > > >> National Archives Ireland >> www.nationalarchives.ie >> >> You can also do a google advanced search with the "phrase" National >> Archives >> Ireland and it will bring it right up. Have you figured out how to do an >> advanced search? It has several features to help cut down on "hits." >> Look >> to the right of the Google box and click on "Go," then click on "advanced >> search." Let me know if you have any questions. >>

SNIPPET: Readers of the Jan-Feb 2006 issue of Dublin's "Ireland of the Welcomes" magazine commented on the Emerald Isle: Tom O'CONNOR, Oro Valley, AZ, shared: "I couldn't resist writing to you after reading the July-Aug 2005 issue of IOTW. We have read it for many years and I was tempted to write several times before but never put pen to paper. We were visiting our cousins near Blarney last May and I told him we didn't care to go to Killarney on the main road. 'No bother,' he says, 'take the lane outside the door to the end and turn left, and then you'll be on The Butter Road.' I'd never heard of it before, even though we have been going to Ireland for nearly 50 years. We did as he told us and we had a wonderful trip to Killarney. There was hardly any traffic and such beautiful scenery on the way. The road got very narrow in places and you had to wait in a wide spot to let the oncoming cars pass. We love to drive the back roads and I think we have been on most of them and every pass and gap from Malin Head to Mizen Head over the past few years. We have many wonderful memories and I look forward to going to Ireland again. In the meantime, keep up the good work and we can re-live these memories through your magazine." Sandra USHER, Costa Mesa, CA, wrote: "Being raised by Irish immigrants is the reason for our deep love for the beautiful bit of heaven called Ireland. As a family, our first trip to Ireland was in 1961 when we met our grandparents, aunts, uncles and friends. In 1968, our parents took us all back to see if we'd like to live there. We were there for seven weeks and it was our dream to move to live there. As we prepared to see our house, pack and make a move, the troubles started in Belfast, which was where we intended to live, so alas we knew our dream was not to come true. My parents continued to travel home over the years and then in 2000, we all went there to celebrate their 50th Wedding Anniversary. They re-read their vows in the little church they were married in so many years before. Sadly, after we returned my mother was diagnosed with cancer and she died shortly afterwards. In June 2004, our family went back for my 50th birthday and my sister's Wedding Anniversary. My father was able to see a lot of his homeland and visit all the family and friends again during the first week of our trip. However, one night he wasn't feeling well and he decided not to come out with us but to stay at home with his sister. Sadly the next morning he passed away. He was able to be buried with his parents, and he had the most beautiful funeral, a simple Irish one, which he would never have had here in America. The old-fashioned traditions of Ireland are wonderful. My Dad was taken through his beloved Newtownards one more time, minus all the cars and people; much like it would have been when he was a young man. The people of his hometown were so helpful, tender and had true compassion for these two ladies who had just lost their father. I cannot tell you enough how overwhelmed we were by the compassion and unbelievable support we had laying my father to rest. It was very difficult for us to leave him in Ireland and return to America. But we know this was the plan for my Dad. He lived, loved and died in his beautiful Ireland. Earlier this year, my sister and I made our reservations to return with my mother's ashes to have her join her beloved husband. We are going to do this on their Wedding Anniversary, when they would have celebrated 55 years of marriage. Ireland has always been home to us and now there is another reason that draws us home. It has been the most moving experience and I am so proud of our Irish heritage." The editor replied - "What a poignant story - how fitting that both of your parents have returned to their homeland. May they rest in peace. For your letter, we are sending you a copy of "Northern Ireland: A Journey by Alf McCREARY."

SNIPPET: Established under the Board of Ordnance in 1791, the Ordnance Survey was given the task of mapping Britain to new levels of accuracy in anticipation of a feared invasion from France. However, it was civil rather than military needs that brought the survey to Ireland in 1824. Inequities in the local taxation system pointed to the need for an official map of the names, boundaries, and acreage of the 60,000 or so townlands as a prelude to the revaluation of rateable property. The average size of a townland, less than 300 acres, necessitated the adoption of the unprecedented scale of six inches to one mile for what was officially called 'The Townland Survey of Ireland.' The larger scale entailed refined methods for the detailed survey, and for a brief period Dublin was at the cutting edge of cartographic innovation. At the height of the project 2,000 staff were employed, including men of the calibre of Thomas DRUMMOND, John O'DONOVAN, Eugene O'CURRY and George PETRIE, supervised by officers of the Royal Engineers and Royal Artillery under director Col. Thomas COLBY in London and Thomas LARCOM in local charge at Phoenix Park. The survey was carried out county by county between 1825 and 1841, starting in Derry and completed with the maps of Kerry published in 1846. Townland boundaries were determined in advance by a separate department under Richard GRIFFITH, who also conducted the subsequent valuation. Additional information was collected on antiquities, place names, geology, and industry, only some of which ever appeared on the final maps. Completed on the eve of the Great Famine, the 1,900 or so maps show the Irish landscape as it approached its population climax, detailing every road and house, field and settlement, in a finely engraved topographical portrait that is austerely beautiful. On completion the focus of the survey shifted back to Britain, but sufficient staff remained in Ireland to insert field boundaries omitted from the maps of the first eight counties. Their value to government, local government, and landowners ensured that the maps continued to be revised and their range expanded to included detailed town plans as well as small-scale maps aimed at the growing tourist and recreation market. After 1921 the survey became wholly independent and the Ordnance Survey of Northern Ireland was established in Belfast. -- Paul Ferguson, Map Librarian, Trinity College Library, Dublin. More info: Andrews, J. H., "A Paper Landscape: The Ordnance Survey in Nineteenth-Century Ireland" (1975) and "History in the Ordnance Map: An Introduction for Irish Readers" (2nd edn., 1993).

SNIPPET: Per Edward LAXTON's spellbinding book, "The Famine Ships," (1997), in looking at the economics existing on many of the great estates in Ireland and the simple sums presented by their land agents to the owners of those estates, it cost a landlord half as much in one year to send his tenants abroad than it would cost to keep them at home. Strokestown, a tiny community in Co. Roscommon, is geographically close to the center of Ireland, and here a Famine Museum was recently opened by Mary ROBINSON, then President of Ireland, to mark the 150th anniversary of the year of 1845 when the Famine began. Strokestown Park House and the surrounding estate, which stretched for 9,000 acres, epitomized the problems Ireland faced as the Famine took hold of the country. The land at Strokestown was granted to the MAHON family around 1680 by the English KING CHARLES II, in return for their support during the Civil Wars. Fifty years later, Thomas MAHON, who had become a Member of Parliament, built the grand house in the Palladian style which can be traced back to the Romans. Even the stables where the museum was sited had vaulted ceilings and there was a galleried kitchen which allowed the lady of the house to remain aloft and watch her cooks and servants at work below. The estate passed down through generations of elder sons in the family, and In July, 1800, Maurice MAHON accepted a peerage to become the First Baron Hartland of Strokestown. But the last of the line, grandson of the original Lord MAHON, was declared insane, and when he died in 1845, without any children to follow him, the estate had suffered ten years of neglect. Ownership passed to a cousin, Major Denis MAHON, whose name became notorious two years later, at the height of the Famine. Major MAHON was not entirely an absentee landlord, but he spent much of his time in England. Land agents ran the Irish estate for a fee, and at the new owner's command, unfortunately coinciding with the first season's failure of the potato crop, they prepared a plan for evicting tenants. Three years of rent arrears totalled 13,000 pounds. Several hundred of Denis MAHON's tenants became emigrants. Willingly or unwillingly, they took their place in the Landlord Emigration sweeping through the grand estates of Ireland. Two of the ships which carried the majority of Major MAHON's former tenants to Canada were the infamous "coffin ships" the "Virginius" and the "Naomi," condemned by Dr. George DOUGLAS at Grosse Isle; there had been more than 200 deaths at sea with another 200 passengers critically sick with fever on arrival. The physical condition of the passengers prior to the voyage was held to be partly responsible for so many deaths. Whatever the reasons, not six months after they left Ireland, on November 2, 1847, Major MAHON was assassinated, shot in the chest as he drove his carriage home late in the afternoon to Strokestown Park House. He died instantly. He was not the first landlord to be murdered, but the controversy surrounding the estate clearings rumbled on for many months, with dozens of letters in Irish and English newspapers, and debates in the House of Commons and the House of Lords in London. Catholic priests and bishops were drawn into the row, which lasted until the last of the killers was hanged late in 1848. Whatever the rights and wrongs of 60-year-old Major MAHONo's conduct, his death ensured that there were suddenly more absentee landlords in Ireland who fled the country in fear of their lives. The politicians had a field day, Irish organizations agitated for a return to governing the country from Dublin instead of London, sided with the Roscommon peasantry who were accused of conspiring against their landlord. The "Freeman's Journal" stated that the people were said to be displeased at him for two reasons: "The first was his refusal to continue the conacre system, the second was his clearing away what he deemed to be the surplus population.... In every other relation of his life Major MAHON was, we believe, much respected." The poorest of those working on the land were squatters without any legal claim to the piece of ground they occupied. In a slightly better position were those working in the conacre system - although tenants were not granted any rights, under conacre they would benefit from tending a stretch of farmland without any lease for a year at a time, the landlord maintaining and preparing the soil for sowing and taking a rent after the crop was harvested. Popular among the peasantry, conacre was less so with the landlords who too often found the rents difficult to raise, and after the first season's calamity with the potato, often impossible to collect at all. Through the accumulation of poor rates paid by the landlords, it was hoped to support the really destitute population in the 130 workhouses originally planned in Ireland. In 1847, some of those had not opened, and some had not been built while others like that in Roscommon, faced bankruptcy. Denis MAHON sat on a Local Relief Committee and shortly before his death he argued publicly with the chairman, the local priest, Father Michael McDERMOTT, and the day before his death the priest attacked Major MAHON from the pulpit. Reports in the local "Longford Journal," in the week of the murder, and carried by "The Times" in London, stated that MAHON's attempts to alleviate the distress was equal to any gentleman in the country possessing a similar income, that, indeed, it could be said that he had none, having to live on other resources, as he had received little or no rent for the last 18 months. It was also said that he was an honorable gentleman who had spent 6,000 to 8,000 pounds to assist thankful, poor people out of Ireland, and as such he had been abused, being portrayed as a tyrant and oppressor of the poor. In April of the following year, the "Freeman's Journal" headlined: Extermination by Thousands! The Strokestown Massacure Developed." By now the news of the typhus and the horrors of Grosse Isle had reached Ireland, and the Bishop of Elpin wrote a report on the evictions at Strokestown, attacking Denis Mahon and holding him accountable for the deaths of 3,006 men, women, including 84 widows, and children. In many earlier exchange of letters between the local agent and Major MAHON, who was away for long periods to Manchester, a four-day journey from Roscommon, and London, which was probably a week away, the Major had written that he could not afford 5,000 pounds and urged the agent to find a cheaper passage out of Sligo or through the port of Liverpool. He argued that he had to borrow money to pay those tenants who wanted to travel independently a small remuneration for their livestock and crops, and he needed to borrow more to pay the fares of others plus the cost of extra food for the voyage - rice, salt, oatmeal and salted herrings - to provide one pound of food per day above the government ration. Nearly 1,000 emigrated on the "John Nunn" and the "Erin's Queen" as well as the filthy "coffin ships" the "Virginius" and "Naomi." A great many tragically failed to complete the journey and many more died soon after setting foot in Canada. They were dying in Roscommon, too, from typhus and dysentery and fever sheds had been raised on the estate in the village of Dysart. Many victims had received some compensation for giving up their land and were then found to be too ill to travel. Four days after his death, 288 acres of prime land and a lovely farmhouse were put up for auction, but the sale was cancelled when the highest bid was too low. Within a matter of weeks four more landlords in Ireland were shot and land agents and rate collectors were threatened and assaulted. Nearly a full year passed before two men, Patrick HASTY and James CUMMINS, were tried and publicly hanged for killing Major Denis MAHON.

National Archives Ireland www.nationalarchives.ie You can also do a google advanced search with the "phrase" National Archives Ireland and it will bring it right up. Have you figured out how to do an advanced search? It has several features to help cut down on "hits." Look to the right of the Google box and click on "Go," then click on "advanced search." Let me know if you have any questions. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley Martin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [IGW] RESOURCES: Expanded List -- <snip>

Jean, you are a font of information. These resources will undoubtedly be very useful, so I am saving it where I can find it at any time. I do have one question though, what is the address of the National Archives of Ireland website? Shirley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean R." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 12:09 PM Subject: [IGW] RESOURCES: Expanded List -- Cyndi's List/National SchoolRecords/Pensions/Griffith's/Commonwealth WW-I & IIDeaths/Valuation Office > To Aid In Your Research > > http://www.familysearch.org/ > > www.cyndislist.com/ Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites on the Internet. > > The National Archives of Ireland website has much to offer researchers who visit their facility in Dublin. Resources include various National School Roll Books/Registers received via the Department of Education for Cos. Cavan, Cork, Donegal, Dublin, Galway, Kerry, Kilkenny, Laois, Leitrim, Longford, Mayo, Meath, Monaghan, Offaly, > Roscommon, Tipperary, Waterford, Westmeath, Wexford and Wicklow. School records received via private donation include Cos. Cavan, Carlow, Cork, Donegal, Dublin, Galway, Kerry, Kildare, Laois, Leitrim, Longford, Mayo, Meath, Monaghan, Offaly, Roscommon, Sligo, Tipperary, Waterford, Westmeath, Wexford and Wicklow. I found that the easiest way for me to locate their school records page was to simply do a "Google" website search for National School Records. (I had problems locating it using their website index, but you may not.) While I don't believe the personnel at the Archives do research for the general public, they do take queries, have tips on using their facility and apparently have a list of genealogists who do research on some materials for a fee. > > Volunteer Look-Ups: "Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness" (RAOGK) website, look-ups for little or nothing. > > For Griffith's Valuation > http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > Currently 2,793,233 records from Counties Armagh, Cavan, Derry, Donegal, Fermanagh, Leitrim, Limerick, Mayo, Sligo, Tyrone & Wexford. Types of record > include Birth, Baptism, Marriage, Griffith's Valuation, Tithe Applotments' and 1901 Census returns. > > History behind surnames and where found in Ireland in the > mid-19th century. . > http://scripts.ireland.com/ancestor/surname/index.cfm > > > Record Search: > https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/csi/csi_main.cfm#Counties > Currently 2,793,233 records from Counties Armagh, Cavan, Derry, Donegal, > Fermanagh, Leitrim, Limerick, Mayo, Sligo, Tyrone & Wexford. Types of record > include Birth, Baptism, Marriage, Griffith's Valuation, Tithe Applotments' > and 1901 Census returns. > > Commonwealth War Graves Commission website. The database has valuable info. on those who perished in WW-I and WW-II while serving in the British Commonwealth. NOTE: The WW-I data often gives NAMES/ADDRESSES of NEXT OF KIN. > > Leitrim-Roscommon website: "Google" phrase Leitrim-Roscommon. Excellent site for those counties plus census data on OTHER Irish counties (i.e. Sligo, Mayo, etc.). Also has an ALL-IRELAND townland search engine. The 1901 Census gives place of birth of each person in household; you may discover that your Cavan-born (other) ancestor was living in Leitrim or in the military there at the time of the 1901 Census. Conduct a name search. (There is a link with searchable Matheson survey of surnames based on Irish births in 1890 at an Ulster website; they may still offer the data free, check and see, pertained to surnames in ALL Irish counties, last time I looked). > > Microfilmed Irish Pension Records are being transcribed (ongoing project) with searchable database by surname at www.pensear.org. Records (mainly) > for No. Ireland transcribed thus far. See website for more details. Many of the women's records give both married and maiden (nee) surnames. > > http://www.ireland.com/ancestor/ > > (One of my favorites) > > Ancestry.com > Most widely used site with over 700 million files: > www.ancestry.com. > Charges a monthly fee. > > AncestralFindings.com > Resource for genealogist directions for finding specific information > www.ancestralfindings.com. > > City Clerks Office, Brooklyn, Marriage, License Records Bureau > 210 Joralemon St., Rm. 205, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 802-3581. > > City Registers Office, Brooklyn > 210 Joralemon St. Rm. 2, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 802-3590. Property records > (deeds, mortgage, maps) 18th Century - present. > > County Clerks Office Brooklyn > State Supreme Court, 360 Adams St., Rm. 122A, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 643-5790. > For Naturalization Records, Rm. 079, (718) 643-5894. > > Department of Health, Bureau of Vital Records > Birth and death records for the five boroughs of New York City. 125 Worth > St., Rm. 133, New York, NY, (212) 566-8193 and -8194. > > Distantcousin.com > Search options include searches by surname, ethnicity, immigrants by ship > and military records: www.distantcousin.com. > > Ellis Island Immigration Museum > Ellis Island, (212) 269-5755. > Family History Center: 125 Columbus Ave., New York, NY, (212) 873-1690. > Web Key word search: Ellis Island > > Familysearch.org > The Church of Jesus Christ and Latter Day Saints' genealogy website: > www.familysearch.org. > > Genealogybox.com > Provides links to genealogy websites organized into specific categories: > www.genealogytboxcom. > > Historical Text Archive > Original translated text dated back several centuries: > www.historicaltextarchive.com. > > National Genealogical Society > A professional organization that outlines etiquette in genealogical study: > www.ngsgenealogy.org. > > New York Genealogical & Biographical Society > 122 East 58th, New York, NY, (212) 755-8532, www.newyorkfamilyhistory.org. . > > New York Public Library, Local History & Genealogical Division > (212) 930-0828, www.nypl.org. > > A lot of Scottish sites plus more - > http://www.rootsinscotland.com/autorank/index.html > > African Heritage > > Afrigeneas.com > Genealogy website dedicated to African American ancestry: > www.Afrigeneas.com. > > Freedmensbureau.com > Established shortly after civil war to assist emancipated slaves. Includes > census, marriage, death and property records: > www.Freedmensbureau.com. > > > Valuation Office Records > The Valuation Office, set up to carry out the original Primary Valuation, is still in existence, and has two related sets of records which are potentially valuable. The first of these are the notebooks used by the original Valuation surveyors, consisting of field books, house books and tenure books. All three record a map reference for the holdings they deal with, as in the published Valuation. The field books then record information on the size and quality of the holding, the house books record the occupiers' names and the measurements of any buildings on their holdings, and the tenure books give the annual rent paid and the legal basis on which the holding is occupied, whether by lease or at will. > > The tenure books also give the year of any lease, useful to know before searching estate papers or The Registry of Deeds. As well as containing information such as this, which does not appear in the published Valuation, the valuers' notebooks can also be useful in documenting any changes in occupation between the initial survey and the published results, for instance if a family emigrated in the years immediately before publication, since they pre-date the final publication itself by several years. Unfortunately, they are not extant for all areas. The National Archives now houses those which survive for the Republic of Ireland. Those covering Northern Ireland are now to be found in The Public Record Office of Northern Ireland . > > The Valuation Office itself, at the Irish Life Centre, Abbey Street Lower, Dublin 1, contains the second set of useful records. These are the Cancelled Land Books and Current Land Books, giving details of all changes in the holdings, from the time of the Primary Valuation up to the present day. Any variations in the size or status of the holding, the names of the occupier or lessor, or the valuation itself are given in the revisions carried out every few years. > > The Books can be very useful in pinpointing a possible date of death or emigration, or in identifying a living relative. A large majority of those who were in occupation of a holding by the 1890s, when the Land Acts began to subsidise the purchase of the land by its tenant farmers, have descendants or relatives still living in the same area. The Cancelled Land Books for Northern Ireland are now in The Public Record Office of Northern Ireland. > > Griffith's Primary Valuation is keyed to a set of maps, now computerized at the Valuation Office [Irish Life Centre, Abbey Street Lower, Dublin 1, http://www.valoff.ie ], showing the location of each holding of property. You can use Griffith's Primary Valuation and the accompanying maps to discover the exact location of the property where your ancestors lived in the mid-nineteenth century. Griffith's Primary Valuation is available online at the web sites of Irish Origins http://www.irishorigins.com and Otherdays.com http://www.otherdays.com . The Irish Origins web site also has the Griffith's Primary Valuation maps. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HE WISHES FOR THE CLOTHS OF HEAVEN Had I the heavens' embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and half-light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. - William Butler YEATS

Hi Barbara -- Thanks so much for your contribution to the list. GILLESPIE is extremely talented. I am always amazed that sculpting can produce such fine, emotional works. One of the most powerful famine memorials in Ireland is is that of a bronze "famine ship" by the roadside in Murrisk, Co. Mayo at the foot of Croagh Patrick (near Westport) with silent skeletons swirling about the ship's masts. I also greatly admire Ms. Jackie McKENNA of Leitrim & Dublin whose work includes a moving portrayal of a distraught female famine victim. Ms. McKENNA has a piece entitled "Cloths of Heaven" at Drumcliffe, Sligo, (where the poet William Butler YEATS is buried, a member of his family having been a rector of the church there) in honor of his poem by the same title. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [IGW] Rowan Gillespie's Famine Sculptures You wrote: ...> As you may recall, Ireland Park Foundation is creating a memorial park at the foot of Bathurst > Street to commemorate the Irish immigrants who > arrived in Toronto in 1847. The park will feature > five famine sculptures along with a limestone wall > and will be dedicated to those who lost their > lives at the end of the journey and to those who > survived and contributed to the development of the > City of Toronto. <snip> > >

Re: The earlier message by "Jean" on the above ... 1) After attending an Irish workshop in Toronto ... the following message was received ... ----- Forwarded message from OGS Toronto Branch ----- Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 From: OGS Toronto Branch Subject: A Message to Attendees of the August Irish Ancestry Workshop Dear Participant in the Irish Ancestry Workshop, The Toronto Branch of the Ontario Genealogical Society has kindly offered to send this email to those who attended the Irish ancestry workshop in August. On behalf of Ireland Park Foundation, I am seeking your assistance. As you may recall, Ireland Park Foundation is creating a memorial park at the foot of Bathurst Street to commemorate the Irish immigrants who arrived in Toronto in 1847. The park will feature five famine sculptures along with a limestone wall and will be dedicated to those who lost their lives at the end of the journey and to those who survived and contributed to the development of the City of Toronto. As part of this initiative, we have engaged a videographer to create a living legacy of the impact these immigrants had on Toronto. The artist would like to interview a few descendents of the Irish immigrants who arrived in Toronto on the famine ships. These interviews will form part of the video display that will be projected on the side of the malting silos adjacent to the park when it opens in June 2007. If you are aware of any Irish descendants whose ancestors arrived in Toronto aboard the famine ships in 1847, we would appreciate your passing this information along or providing us with their coordinates so that we might be in touch with them. We have a very short window to conduct the interviews and therefore would appreciate any information you may be able to provide before the end of October. Thank you for your help with this important project. Please forward information to: Terry Smith Board Member Ireland Park Foundation [email protected] 416-357-1231 ----end Forwarded message ---- 2) On February 24 ... a related article appeared in the Toronto Globe & Mail by James Rush. This can be "fully" accessed thru Google ... entering ... "Toronto Waterfornt Statues - Irish Immigrants". 3) Would appear both wharfs will now have similar commemorative memorials ... - "The Departure" - Ireland - "The Arrival" - Canada Thank you Jean for again binding these two great countries together. B.A.

THE INFINITE The Infinite always is silent: It is only the Finite speaks. Our words are the idle wave-caps On the deep that never breaks. We may question with wand of science, Explain, decide and discuss; But only in meditation The Mystery speaks to us. -- John Boyle O'Reilly (1844-1890) O'Reilly arrived in Boston in 1870, and for the next 20 years was recognised as a powerful spokesman for the downtrodden, at times single-handedly bridging the gap between people of various races, creeds and nationalities. O'Reilly was one of the most prominent journalists of his day promoting the rights of Jews, American Indians and Blacks.

A WHITE ROSE The red rose whispers of passion, And the white rose breathes of love; Oh, the red rose is a falcon, And the white rose is a dove. But I send you a cream-white rosebud, With a flush on its petal tips; For the love that is purest and sweetest Has a kiss of desire on the lips. -- John Boyle O'Reilly (1844-1890) was born in Drogheda (Louth) Ireland. After apprenticing at various newspapers, he became a member of the Fenian Society, a group dedicated to Irish nationalism. Soon after joining, O'Reilly was arrested and banished to a penal colony in Australia. In 1869 he escaped to America and joined the staff of the "Boston Pilot," the diocesan paper. He soon became editor and went on to publish many volumes of poetry, ranging from patriotic odes to lyrical ballads. In testament to the wide acclaim he enjoyed for his poetry, O'Reilly was picked to deliver a commemorative poem at the dedication of Plymouth Rock in 1889 - a major honor for any writer at the time, especially for an Irishman. He died only a year later at age 46 from an overdose of sleeping pills, though it is not known whether it was a suicide or an accident.

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SNIPPET: "Famine" is Rowan GILLESPIE's moving sculpture in Dublin's Custom House Quay commemorate those poor souls forced to emigrate during the famine of the 19th century. It was bought and donated to the people of Ireland in 1997 by Norma SMURFIT, one of Ireland's more altruistic millionaires. The six larger-than-life figures evoke a haunted feel in this part of the quays, which is all the more significant as many of the emigrants departed from this quay to Liverpool and the New World. Of all my Ireland vacation pictures, the ones most frequently commented on are the close-ups of the wretched figures. On foot, we had almost given up on finding the sculpture when some people on the street told us to walk on a little further, just down from the Custom House. The sculpture is made to represent the poor who left Ireland during the 1845 famine to find hope elsewhere. The figures are tall and elongated - the stretch making them thinner. There is a scrawny dog amidst them. Their gaunt faces are burned in my memory. These are a "must-see" for visitors. Rowan GILLESPIE was born in Dublin in 1953, but his family soon moved to Cyprus where he lived until the age of ten. In 1969 he enrolled at York School of Art and later continued his studies at Kingston College of Art and Kunst og Handverke Skole in Oslo. He lived and exhibited widely in Norway before returning to Ireland in 1977. From 1978 to 1986, he had many exhibitions in Ireland at the Lad Lane & Solomon Galleries and with the Jonathon Poole Gallery, London. His work also travelled to exhibitions in York, Belfast, New York, Cannes, Los Angeles and Stockholm. From 1982 he regularly exhibited in group exhibitions, Art Fairs and Theme exhibitions in Ireland, France, Holland, U.S.A and England, including 'Recontre avec des Sculpteurs Europeens', Pan Amsterdam, Royal Hibernian Academy, Art Expo, New York, Art Toronto, Puck, New York, B.C.A.F., I.C.A.F., London. In 1989 he decided to concentrate on site specific work, resulting in a number of major public sculptures sited throughout Ireland and abroad including The Blackrock Dolmen, The Kiss, The Age of Freedom (all in Dublin), The Cashel Dancers (Cashel), W.B.Yeats (Sligo), The Singer (Limerick City) and The Cycle of Life and The Minstrels in Colorado, USA. In 1994, a major solo sculpture exhibition was hosted at the Solomon Gallery, Dublin and toured to the Galerie Husstege, Holland. GILLESPIE's most well-known piece to date is "Famine," a commemorative group of figures sited on Custom House Quay in Dublin. The sculptor's work is represented in the collections of the Irish Museum of Modern Art, the National Self-Portrait Collection, Limerick, AIB Bank, I.B.M., Office of An Taoiseach, R.T.E. Authority Commission, Aer Lingus, Chicago Bank, Tyrone Guthrie Centre, Ulster Bank, National Maternity Hospital and Irish Intercontinental Bank.

SNIPPET: Potato Crop Failure: The earliest reports of agricultural distress in Ireland came in short notices in American newspapers. Among the first such report was the following that appeared in the "New York Tribune" on October 4, 1845: "We regret to have to state that we have had communications from more than one well-informed correspondent, announcing of the appearance of what is called "cholera" in the potatoes in Ireland, especially in the north. In one instance the party had been digging potatoes, the finest he had ever seen, from a particular field...up to Monday last. On digging in the same (field) on Tuesday he found the tubers unfit for the use of man or beast. We are most anxious to receive information as to the state of the potato crop in all parts, for the purpose either of allaying unnecessary alarm, or giving timely warning."

SNIPPET: "Although her father still called her a girl, Bridie was thirty-six. She was tall and strong; the skin of her fingers and her palms were stained, and harsh to touch. The labour they'd experienced had found its way into them, as though juices had come out of vegetation and pigment out of soil; since childhood she'd torn away the rough scotch grass that grew each spring among her father's mangolds and sugar beet; since childhood she'd harvested potatoes in August, her hands daily rooting in the ground she loosened and turned. Wind had toughened the flesh of her face, sun had browned it; her neck and nose were lean, her lips touched with early wrinkles. But on Saturday night Bridie forgot the scotch grass and the soil. In different dresses she cycled to the dance-hall, encouraged to make the journey by her father. 'Doesn't it do you good, girl?' he'd say, as though he imagined she begrudged herself the pleasure. 'Why wouldn't you enjoy yourself?' She'd cook him his tea and then he'd settle down with the wireless, or maybe a Wild West novel. In time, while still she danced, he'd stoke the fire up and hobble his way upstairs to bed. The dance-hall, owned by Mr. Justin DWYER, was miles from anywhere, a lone building by the roadside with treeless boglands all around and a gravel expanse in front of it. On pink pebbled cement its title was painted in an azure blue that matched the depth of the background shade yet stood out well, unfussiily proclaiming 'The Ballroom of Romance.' Above these letters four coloured bulbs - in red, green, orange and mauve - were lit at appropriate times, an indication that the evening rendezvous was open for business. Only the facade of the building was pink, the other walls being a more ordinary grey. And inside, except for pink swing-doors, everything was blue." -- William TREVOR, "The Ballroom of Romance & Other Stories," (1972); setting for this story, actual dance hall in Co. Leitrim.

WHITE HAWTHORN IN THE WEST OF IRELAND I drove west in the season between seasons. I left behind suburban gardens. Lawmowers. Small talk. Under low skies, past splashes of coltsfoot I assumed the hard shyness of Atlantic light and the superstitious aura of hawthorn. All I wanted then was to fill my arms with sharp flowers, to seem, from a distance, to be part of that ivory, downhill rush. But I knew, I had always known the custom was not to touch hawthorn. Not to bring it indoors for the sake of the luck such constraint would forfeit -- a child might die, perhaps, or an unexplained fever speckle heifers. So I left it stirring on those hills with a fluency only water has. And, like water, able to redefine land. And free to seem to be -- for anglers, and for travelers astray in the unmarked lights of a May dusk -- the only language spoken in those parts. -- Eavan BOLAND, "Outside History, selected poems - 1980-1990, " (Norton/1990).

SNIPPET: Per Richard LOVETT, Victorian visitor to Ireland, "The Tara Brooch, in the general character and exquisite style of its ornamentation, belongs to the same period of art as the Ardagh Chalice. It was found in 1850, near the sea-shore, by the child of a poor woman, who afterwards sold it in Drogheda. The workmanship is so highly finished that to be fairly appreciated it should be examined through a powerful lens. It exhibits seventy-six varieties of design, of the class found in the Ardagh Chalice and the early illuminated Irish MSS. The obverse and reverse are both richly decorated. 'The Tara Brooch,' said Dr. PETRIE, 'is superior to anything hitherto found in the variety of its ornaments and in the exquisite delicacy and perfection of its execution.' It is composed of what is known as white bronze, a mixture of copper and tin."

SNIPPET: In a peaceful rural setting, Woodview House, Ballingale, Co. Wexford, (previously known as Clobemon Hall) has an interesting and varied history that includes a devastating fire May 1798 during the Rebellion, restoration, and owners (as well as a series of tenants) with surnames to include de RINZY, TURNER, LAMBERT, MILNE, and WHELAN. Most recently it has been lovingly and beautifully restored by the Pat MARTIN family. There are many recent photos(and a several-page article about the early history of Wexford and the Rebellion and the early history of Woodview House)in the Nov-Dec 2002 issue of Dublin's "Ireland of the Welcomes" magazine. One particularly interesting tenant was Mrs. Hubert LEWIS, who in 1917 established Ballingale Poultry Farm and Gardening School," also known as the "Ballingale School of Industry." The development of such schools in Great Britain and Ireland arose from the movement towards the emancipation of women, which opened up the way to new areas of employment for young ladies. It was a also a consequence of the First World War (1914-1918) when women moved into the work of food production, because so many men had enlisted for the trenches. A 1918 account of the School gives quite a detailed description of the house and grounds. The house was described as old-fashioned, in its own grounds of eleven acres, with a view of the river Slaney. The entrance hall, with its large open hearth, was used as a sitting room and class-room by the students. On the right of the hall was the sitting room used by the LEWISes and, on the left, the dining-room. There were two well-lit rooms with their high ceilings which have remained relatively unchanged to the present today. Upstairs were two four-bedded dormitories and some single rooms. Outside in the yard, the dilapidated outhouses had been converted for various purposes. A former harness room was used as an office. A stable became a dairy with a churn, separator, cheese press and other utensils of dairying. A third outhouse was restored and used for the storage of provisions. A small orchard was planted in the yard and there was also a poultry unit. The walled garden located to the rear of the house was described as the "old fashioned type with straight walks that divide the plots and shadowed by fruit trees, with vegetables of all descriptions, flowers in herbaceous borders and specimen beds and a greenhouse." Sadly, few traces of that garden remain today. The present-day owners were able to save many original features - ornamental plasterwork, the main staircase, relics that include schoolbook which belonged to Nellie and Anne LAMBERT in the 1920s. The course, for female students only, included theoretical and practical horticulture, poultry and rabbit keeping. Students could specialize in poultry-keeping, dairy-work or gardening, or they could take a combination course. Practical gardening included digging, trenching, manuring the soil, seed sowing, cultivation of vegetables and flowers and fruit production. Daily lectures covered botany, chemistry of the soil and the course extended over three terms of 13 weeks each and internal exams were held. Students were also tutored for exams of the Royal Horticultural Society, London. Horticulture was taught by Miss Anne ("Nancy") Lauder BRUNTON, who had studied at Studley College, Warwickshire in England, where she had received a gold medal in 1912. Prior to coming to Co. Wexford, she had been a school gardener at James ALLEN Girls' School, Dulwich, London. She was the younger sister of Alice ("Elsie") HENRY, wife of Augustine HENRY the first professor of Forestry in University College, Dublin, and a plant collector in China whose name is revered in gardening circles. Their father, Sir Lauder BRUNTON, was a well-known London physician. There were two other instructresses for dairying and poultry-keeping, both of whom had worked with the United Irishwomen. Note should be made that the United Irishwomen, a very different type of organization to the United Irishmen, were forerunners of the Irish Countrywomen's Association. They were founded in Bree, Co. Wexford, in 1910, and promoted such areas as cookery, needlework, nursing, poultry keeping, market gardening and charitable work. A Miss SLATTERY, who from 1905-1917 was poultry instructress for Co. Wexford, supervised the flock of birds which included Wyandottes, Leghorns, Rhode Island Reds, Barred Rocks and Favorelles. Profits came from the sale of chickens and eggs. Another enterprise was rabbit keeping with breeds that included Belgian Hares and Belgian Giants. The yield from the garden must have been plentiful; Anne Lauder BRUNTON said that it had provided for a household of 12-14 people. The school was a short-lived enterprise, likely ceasing to function in 1919 or 1920. It had a similar fate to the four other gardening schools for women in Ireland at the time which all declined in the years after WWI. Woodview became a family home once again, the next tenants being Harry MILNE, his wife and small son, the late King MILNE, the latter an enthusiastic local historian who descended from a Scottish ancestor who became a tenant on the Clobemon estate after the Great Famine of 1845-1849. Also in the article is the Paul KERR painting in tones of fiery red and gray depicting a scene with United Irishmen from the 1798 Rebellion during which the original Woodview House was destroyed by fire and where Francis TURNER, one of the original owners was killed.