Hi Peggy, The Diocese of Cloyne is in Co Cork. -----Original Message----- From: irelandgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irelandgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Peggie T Sent: 22 October 2008 20:17 To: irelandgenweb@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Irish Genealogy] RESOURCE FOR CO. CORK DATA -- CRONIN My Doyle family immigrated to Nova Scotia from County Wexford around early 1800's. Where is the Diocese of Cloyne? I am looking for the birth and marriage of my ggggrandfather, Richard Harding, I am assuming that he is also from County Wexford. Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: <eld52@verizon.net> To: <irelandgenweb@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [Irish Genealogy] RESOURCE FOR CO. CORK DATA -- CRONIN > > Hi, By any chance would you be relatied to the Doyle family that > married a white, also other families Sliney, Cronin, Stafford, Collins > and Lane. The all came from the Diocese of Cloyne, near Cloyne townland. > All these families intermarried with each other, and other migrated to > the U.S. Ed. > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:59 AM, Jean R. wrote: > >> > http://myhome.ispdr.net.au/~mgrogan/cork/rostellan.htm > <http://myhome.ispdr.net.au/~mgrogan/cork/rostellan.htm> > <http://myhome.ispdr.net.au/~mgrogan/cork/rostellan.htm> . > > http://myhome.ispdr.net.au/~mgrogan/cork/ire.cork.htm > <http://myhome.ispdr.net.au/~mgrogan/cork/ire.cork.htm> > <http://myhome.ispdr.net.au/~mgrogan/cork/ire.cork.htm> > > Noel - I know you have found some 1901 Census data, etc. You may > already be > familiar with this website. If not, the search engine on the home page > will > give you several hits on the surname Cronin & Keefe in records. Other > Cork-interested listers may want to investigate these webpages. > (Interesting - I see that Midleton is the preferred spelling, with one > "d"). > You need not respond to his e-mail, if you don't care to. J. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Noel O'Keeffe" <nokeeffe@indigo.ie <mailto:nokeeffe@indigo.ie> > <mailto:nokeeffe@indigo.ie> > > To: <irelandgenweb@rootsweb.com <mailto:irelandgenweb@rootsweb.com> > <mailto:irelandgenweb@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 1:06 PM > Subject: Re: [Irish Genealogy] Query,what is HOH? - CRONIN - Emigration > to > Australia - Aghada,Cork? - Commonwealth WW-1/WW-2 Casualty Records > >> >> >> HI Jean, >> >> Sorry about that HOH is head of household on Census >> >> Lurrig & Barrakilla & Lurrig are next to one another. >> >> I know exactly where the Cronin's lived but I'm sorry to say that the >> farm >> is no longer family property. It must have been sold by the 2 >> unmarried >> brothers Edmond & Richard because they died at their sister's Johanna >> (married a James Scanlon in Aghada Hall)( I wouldn't mind owning her >> land as >> it looks out over Cork Harbour across at Cobh) The other sister >> married a >> James White who would be my ggrandfather. <snip> > > Check out the Ireland GenWeb website at: http://www.irelandgenweb.com/ > <http://www.irelandgenweb.com/> <http://www.irelandgenweb.com/> > It is a good place to get help with your family research. > Help wanted: County Coordinators > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRELANDGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com > <mailto:IRELANDGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com> > <mailto:IRELANDGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Check out the Ireland GenWeb website at: http://www.irelandgenweb.com/ > It is a good place to get help with your family research. > Help wanted: County Coordinators > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRELANDGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message Check out the Ireland GenWeb website at: http://www.irelandgenweb.com/ It is a good place to get help with your family research. Help wanted: County Coordinators ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELANDGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 5.5 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 12971 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Hi all i'm new to the board, I'm trying to find the marriage of Patrick Ahearn and Alice Bourke abt 1863/64 first son Thomas born in 1864/65,other children Mary b abt 1866,Cath abt 1872,Johanna abt 1874,& Patrick born abt ?,the family moved to Aust before 1897 when daughter Cath married,any help on census,births,and the marriage would be appreciated. Julie _________________________________________________________________

My Doyle family immigrated to Nova Scotia from County Wexford around early 1800's. Where is the Diocese of Cloyne? I am looking for the birth and marriage of my ggggrandfather, Richard Harding, I am assuming that he is also from County Wexford. Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: <eld52@verizon.net> To: <irelandgenweb@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [Irish Genealogy] RESOURCE FOR CO. CORK DATA -- CRONIN > > Hi, By any chance would you be relatied to the Doyle family that > married a white, also other families Sliney, Cronin, Stafford, Collins > and Lane. The all came from the Diocese of Cloyne, near Cloyne townland. > All these families intermarried with each other, and other migrated to > the U.S. Ed. > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:59 AM, Jean R. wrote: > >> > http://myhome.ispdr.net.au/~mgrogan/cork/rostellan.htm > <http://myhome.ispdr.net.au/~mgrogan/cork/rostellan.htm> > <http://myhome.ispdr.net.au/~mgrogan/cork/rostellan.htm> . > > http://myhome.ispdr.net.au/~mgrogan/cork/ire.cork.htm > <http://myhome.ispdr.net.au/~mgrogan/cork/ire.cork.htm> > <http://myhome.ispdr.net.au/~mgrogan/cork/ire.cork.htm> > > Noel - I know you have found some 1901 Census data, etc. You may > already be > familiar with this website. If not, the search engine on the home page > will > give you several hits on the surname Cronin & Keefe in records. Other > Cork-interested listers may want to investigate these webpages. > (Interesting - I see that Midleton is the preferred spelling, with one > "d"). > You need not respond to his e-mail, if you don't care to. J. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Noel O'Keeffe" <nokeeffe@indigo.ie <mailto:nokeeffe@indigo.ie> > <mailto:nokeeffe@indigo.ie> > > To: <irelandgenweb@rootsweb.com <mailto:irelandgenweb@rootsweb.com> > <mailto:irelandgenweb@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 1:06 PM > Subject: Re: [Irish Genealogy] Query,what is HOH? - CRONIN - Emigration > to > Australia - Aghada,Cork? - Commonwealth WW-1/WW-2 Casualty Records > >> >> >> HI Jean, >> >> Sorry about that HOH is head of household on Census >> >> Lurrig & Barrakilla & Lurrig are next to one another. >> >> I know exactly where the Cronin's lived but I'm sorry to say that the >> farm >> is no longer family property. It must have been sold by the 2 >> unmarried >> brothers Edmond & Richard because they died at their sister's Johanna >> (married a James Scanlon in Aghada Hall)( I wouldn't mind owning her >> land as >> it looks out over Cork Harbour across at Cobh) The other sister >> married a >> James White who would be my ggrandfather. <snip> > > Check out the Ireland GenWeb website at: http://www.irelandgenweb.com/ > <http://www.irelandgenweb.com/> <http://www.irelandgenweb.com/> > It is a good place to get help with your family research. > Help wanted: County Coordinators > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRELANDGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com > <mailto:IRELANDGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com> > <mailto:IRELANDGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Check out the Ireland GenWeb website at: http://www.irelandgenweb.com/ > It is a good place to get help with your family research. > Help wanted: County Coordinators > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRELANDGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, By any chance would you be relatied to the Doyle family that married a white, also other families Sliney, Cronin, Stafford, Collins and Lane. The all came from the Diocese of Cloyne, near Cloyne townland. All these families intermarried with each other, and other migrated to the U.S. Ed. On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:59 AM, Jean R. wrote: > http://myhome.ispdr.net.au/~mgrogan/cork/rostellan.htm <http://myhome.ispdr.net.au/~mgrogan/cork/rostellan.htm>   <http://myhome.ispdr.net.au/~mgrogan/cork/rostellan.htm> . http://myhome.ispdr.net.au/~mgrogan/cork/ire.cork.htm <http://myhome.ispdr.net.au/~mgrogan/cork/ire.cork.htm>   <http://myhome.ispdr.net.au/~mgrogan/cork/ire.cork.htm> Noel - I know you have found some 1901 Census data, etc.  You may already be familiar with this website.  If not, the search engine on the home page will give you several hits on the surname Cronin & Keefe in records.  Other Cork-interested listers may want to investigate these webpages. (Interesting - I see that Midleton is the preferred spelling, with one "d"). You need not respond to his e-mail, if you don't care to.   J. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noel O'Keeffe" <nokeeffe@indigo.ie <mailto:nokeeffe@indigo.ie>   <mailto:nokeeffe@indigo.ie> > To: <irelandgenweb@rootsweb.com <mailto:irelandgenweb@rootsweb.com>   <mailto:irelandgenweb@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [Irish Genealogy] Query,what is HOH? - CRONIN - Emigration to Australia - Aghada,Cork? - Commonwealth WW-1/WW-2 Casualty Records > > > HI Jean, > > Sorry about that    HOH   is head of household on Census > > Lurrig & Barrakilla & Lurrig are next to one another. > > I know exactly where the Cronin's  lived but I'm sorry to say that the > farm > is no longer family property. It must have been sold by the 2 > unmarried > brothers Edmond & Richard because they died at their sister's Johanna > (married a James Scanlon in Aghada Hall)( I wouldn't mind owning her > land as > it looks out over Cork Harbour across at Cobh) The other sister > married a > James White who would be my ggrandfather.  <snip> Check out the Ireland GenWeb website at:  http://www.irelandgenweb.com/ <http://www.irelandgenweb.com/>   <http://www.irelandgenweb.com/> It is a good place to get help with your family research. Help wanted:  County Coordinators ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELANDGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com <mailto:IRELANDGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com>   <mailto:IRELANDGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com>  with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

LATE SEPTEMBER Two grey horses in a wet field, All bony legs and raindark hides, Cold grey lake behind, the grey sky above, The very grasses and rushes grey, The bare trees weeping wet bark All wrapped and veiled in timeless rain. I smell the winter coming. -- Nina Havers, "The Leitrim Guardian"

http://myhome.ispdr.net.au/~mgrogan/cork/rostellan.htm. http://myhome.ispdr.net.au/~mgrogan/cork/ire.cork.htm Noel - I know you have found some 1901 Census data, etc. You may already be familiar with this website. If not, the search engine on the home page will give you several hits on the surname Cronin & Keefe in records. Other Cork-interested listers may want to investigate these webpages. (Interesting - I see that Midleton is the preferred spelling, with one "d"). You need not respond to his e-mail, if you don't care to. J. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noel O'Keeffe" <nokeeffe@indigo.ie> To: <irelandgenweb@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [Irish Genealogy] Query,what is HOH? - CRONIN - Emigration to Australia - Aghada,Cork? - Commonwealth WW-1/WW-2 Casualty Records > > > HI Jean, > > Sorry about that HOH is head of household on Census > > Lurrig & Barrakilla & Lurrig are next to one another. > > I know exactly where the Cronin's lived but I'm sorry to say that the > farm > is no longer family property. It must have been sold by the 2 unmarried > brothers Edmond & Richard because they died at their sister's Johanna > (married a James Scanlon in Aghada Hall)( I wouldn't mind owning her land > as > it looks out over Cork Harbour across at Cobh) The other sister married a > James White who would be my ggrandfather. <snip>

HI Jean, Sorry about that HOH is head of household on Census Lurrig & Barrakilla & Lurrig are next to one another. I know exactly where the Cronin's lived but I'm sorry to say that the farm is no longer family property. It must have been sold by the 2 unmarried brothers Edmond & Richard because they died at their sister's Johanna (married a James Scanlon in Aghada Hall)( I wouldn't mind owning her land as it looks out over Cork Harbour across at Cobh) The other sister married a James White who would be my ggrandfather. I tried that site Commonwealth WW-1/WW-2 Casualty Records , found this Name: CRONIN, LAURENCE VINCENT Initials: L V Nationality: Australian Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Australian Infantry Unit Text: A.I.F. 2/17 Bn. Age: 35 Date of Death: 03/11/1943 Service No: NX29076 Additional information: Son of William and Anne Cronin, of Balmain, New South Wales. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: AA. B. 6. Cemetery: LAE WAR CEMETERY I cant find any marriage for William & Anne Cronin. Regards Noel -----Original Message----- From: irelandgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irelandgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Jean R. Sent: 20 October 2008 20:38 To: irelandgenweb@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Irish Genealogy] Query,what is HOH? - CRONIN - Emigration to Australia - Aghada,Cork? - Commonwealth WW-1/WW-2 Casualty Records Townland AKA Acres County Barony Civil Parish PLU Province Lurrig 108 Westmeath Moycashel Castletownkindalen Mullingar Leinster Lurrig 97 Cork, E.R. Imokilly Rostellan Middleton Munster Townland AKA Acres County Barony Civil Parish PLU Province Barrakilla 201 Kerry Trughanacmy Ballymacelligott Tralee Munster Aghada 488 Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster Ballinacarroonig 244 Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster Hi Noel - What is HOH? Barrakilla is apparently in Co. Kerry near Tralee (?) (Cork and Kerry are neighbors.) Alternatively, a "sound-alike" (sort of!) for the Aghada CP was Ballinacarroonig. Above is from the all-Ireland townland search engine (1850's) at the Leitrim-Roscommon website. OH, WAIT - you know what you are talking about -- I found this reference for a current business on the web yellow pages - Barrakilla Aghada Cloyne Co. Cork. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noel O'Keeffe" <nokeeffe@indigo.ie> To: <irelandgenweb@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [Irish Genealogy] CRONIN - Emigration to Australia - Aghada,Cork? - Commonwealth WW-1/WW-2 Casualty Records > > > Hi Jean, > > I don't have any information on William Cronin after he left the Parish of > Aghada. All I know is that he was left home by 1901 Census . His mother > died > on 06.08.1898 & is listed as a widow . I Williams dob 17 Jan 1865 Batch > No > C701254 Source Call No 0101103. on www.familysearch.org. > Some of the information that I have lists the area where he was born as > Lurrig or Barrakilla in Parish of Aghada. His brother is listed on 1901 > census as being HOH for Barrakilla. > He had 2 brothers Edmond & Richard & 2 Sisters Ellen & Johanna. All family > died in Aghada. > > > Many thanks. > > Noel <snip> Check out the Ireland GenWeb website at: http://www.irelandgenweb.com/ It is a good place to get help with your family research. Help wanted: County Coordinators ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELANDGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 5.5 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 12971 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Hi Jean, I don't have any information on William Cronin after he left the Parish of Aghada. All I know is that he was left home by 1901 Census . His mother died on 06.08.1898 & is listed as a widow . I Williams dob 17 Jan 1865 Batch No C701254 Source Call No 0101103. on www.familysearch.org. Some of the information that I have lists the area where he was born as Lurrig or Barrakilla in Parish of Aghada. His brother is listed on 1901 census as being HOH for Barrakilla. He had 2 brothers Edmond & Richard & 2 Sisters Ellen & Johanna. All family died in Aghada. Many thanks. Noel -----Original Message----- From: irelandgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irelandgenweb-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Jean R. Sent: 18 October 2008 17:39 To: irelandgenweb@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Irish Genealogy] CRONIN - Emigration to Australia - Aghada,Cork? - Commonwealth WW-1/WW-2 Casualty Records Hi Noel - Do you have any other specifics - a particular townland in Co. Cork? William's son's name? Perhaps he was killed in combat or died as a result of his wounds shortly thereafter. There are 163 records for CRONIN individuals at the Commonwealth War Graves Commission website (google CWGC), to include entries for Australian regiments/service. The data for those who died in WW-I, at least, often give the names and addresses of NEXT OF KIN. Perhaps something will look familiar. If fact, I would encourage other listers to check their surnames of interest at that CWGC website. IreAtlas -- Per the IreAtlas townland search engine at the Leitrim-Roscommon website, the following townlands, and towns ("T"), are in Aghada Civil Parish in Cork circa 1850. Townland AKA Acres County Barony Civil Parish PLU Province AGHADA (LOWER) T. xx Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster AGHADA (UPPER) T. xx Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster Aghada 488 Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster Ballinacarroonig 244 Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster Ballinbeg 96 Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster Ballynafarsid 120 Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster Ballynookery 395 Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster Ballysovane 84 Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster Buckstown 234 Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster Curragh 123 Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster FARSID T xx Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster Glenbradagh 113 Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster Hermitage 155 Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster Knockanemorney 227 Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster Mosestown 158 Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster Peafield 17 Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster WHITEGATE T. xx Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster J. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noel O'Keeffe" <nokeeffe@indigo.ie> To: <irelandgenweb@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 7:25 AM Subject: Re: [Irish Genealogy] Emigration to Australia > > Hi Folks, This is a total long shot. I'm trying to trace a William Cronin who was born 17.01.1865 in parish of Aghada to David Cronin & Johanna Wall. > > I'm told that he went to Australia but I have no further information. > Theonly thing I was told by relatives some years ago that a son of > Williams was in Australian Forces during WW1 or WW2 and was supposed to > visit his Irish > relatives but he didn't show. > > Any help would be appreciated. Regards > Noel Check out the Ireland GenWeb website at: http://www.irelandgenweb.com/ It is a good place to get help with your family research. Help wanted: County Coordinators ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELANDGENWEB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 5.5 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 12971 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

RESOURCE: The Valuation Office in Dublin can be an excellent resource for those fortunate researchers who know where their ancestors actually lived in Ireland. Research can be carried out for rural areas if, at a minimum, you know the name of the county, the name of the townland and the name of the person or family. Research for cities and towns require the name of the street, in addition. The Valuation Office set up to carry out the original Primary Valuation, is still in existence at the Irish Life Centre, Abbey St. Lower, Dublin 1 (prev. at Ely Place) and has two related sets of records which are potentially quite valuable. The first of these are the notebooks used by the original Valuation surveyors, consisting of "field books," "house book" and "tenure books." All three record a map reference for the holdings they deal with, as in the published Valuation. The fields books then record information on the size and quality of the holding, the house books record the occupiers' names and the measurement of any buildings on their holdings, and the tenure books give the annual rent paid and the legal basis on which the holding is occupied, whether by lease or at will. The tenure books also give the YEAR OF ANY LEASE, useful to know before searching estate papers or the Registry of Deeds. As well as containing information such as this, which does not appear in the published Valuation, the valuers' notebooks can also be useful in documenting any changes in occupation between the initial survey and the published results, for instance, if a family emigrated in the years immediately before publication, since they pre-date the final publication itself by several years. Unfortunately they are not extant for all areas. The National Archives now houses those which survive for the Republic of Ireland. Those covering Northern Ireland are now to be found in the Public Record Office of Northern Ireland. The Valuation Office in Dublin contains the second set of useful records. These are the "Cancelled Land Books" and "Current Land Books," giving details of all changes in the holdings, from the time of the primary valuation up to the present day. Any variations in the size or status of the holding, the names of the occupier or lessor, or the valuation itself, are given in the revisions carried out every few years. The Books can be very useful in helping to clarify a possible time of death, date of emigration or identifying a living relative. Per Irish genealogy expert and author, John GRENHAM, a large majority of those who were in occupation of a holding by the 1890s, when the Land Acts begin to subsidize the purchase of the land by its tenant-farmers, HAVE DESCENDANTS OR RELATIVES STILL LIVING IN THE SAME AREA. The Cancelled Land Books for Northern Ireland are now in the Public Record Office of Northern Ireland. As I understand it, you can conduct your own research or have the Valuation Office do it. There is a fee involved. Check their website for details (updates or changes) at http://www.valoff.ie/Genealogy.htm

Thanks to Kathy Snowberger, the Ireland GenWeb Surname Registries have been updated. Check them out here: http://www.irelandgenweb.com/ If you find a mistake or want to change you data, send a new form and put 'change' in the field where you require the change. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Townland AKA Acres County Barony Civil Parish PLU Province Lurrig 108 Westmeath Moycashel Castletownkindalen Mullingar Leinster Lurrig 97 Cork, E.R. Imokilly Rostellan Middleton Munster Townland AKA Acres County Barony Civil Parish PLU Province Barrakilla 201 Kerry Trughanacmy Ballymacelligott Tralee Munster Aghada 488 Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster Ballinacarroonig 244 Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster Hi Noel - What is HOH? Barrakilla is apparently in Co. Kerry near Tralee (?) (Cork and Kerry are neighbors.) Alternatively, a "sound-alike" (sort of!) for the Aghada CP was Ballinacarroonig. Above is from the all-Ireland townland search engine (1850's) at the Leitrim-Roscommon website. OH, WAIT - you know what you are talking about -- I found this reference for a current business on the web yellow pages - Barrakilla Aghada Cloyne Co. Cork. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noel O'Keeffe" <nokeeffe@indigo.ie> To: <irelandgenweb@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [Irish Genealogy] CRONIN - Emigration to Australia - Aghada,Cork? - Commonwealth WW-1/WW-2 Casualty Records > > > Hi Jean, > > I don't have any information on William Cronin after he left the Parish of > Aghada. All I know is that he was left home by 1901 Census . His mother > died > on 06.08.1898 & is listed as a widow . I Williams dob 17 Jan 1865 Batch > No > C701254 Source Call No 0101103. on www.familysearch.org. > Some of the information that I have lists the area where he was born as > Lurrig or Barrakilla in Parish of Aghada. His brother is listed on 1901 > census as being HOH for Barrakilla. > He had 2 brothers Edmond & Richard & 2 Sisters Ellen & Johanna. All family > died in Aghada. > > > Many thanks. > > Noel <snip>

SNIPPET: The son of a Carlow farmer, industrialist William DARGAN(1799-1867), was educated in England and trained as a surveyor there. Following experience gained under Thomas TELFORD in Wales, DARGAN returned to Ireland and established himself as a road contractor. In 1831 he became the contractor for the Dublin to Kingstown railway line, the first in Ireland. Over the next 20 years he constructed in excess of 600 miles of railway line, the Ulster canal, and major improvements to Belfast's docks.In 1853 he organized the Irish Industrial Exhibition, inspired by the success of the Great Exhibition of 1851 in London and an exhibition in Cork in 1852 that was later seen as a modest success, but DARGAN's much larger exhibition in Dublin in 1853 was less successful. Apparently this was due to the fact that the Irish market was too small to tempt adequate numbers of foreign manufacturers and his greatly expanded arts, antiquities and overseas exotica tended to overshadow the displays of Irish raw materials, machinery, and manufactured goods. Overall attendance was low, even though QUEEN VICTORIA and PRINCE ALBERT, during a week-long stay in Ireland visited the hall four times. QUEEN VICTORIA also paid a visit to DARGAN's home. DARGAN declined a baronetcy and underwrote a substantial loss. Unfortunately, DARGAN's later investments in textile manufacture also proved financially disastrous and he finally suspended payment on his debts the year before his death. His widow was subsequently granted an annual civil list pension of 100 pounds.

I am looking for any information that anyone may find during their research on Martin BRENNAN. He was born in Co Laois on 29th Nov 1888 and he died in Belfast c1962/3 in the Antrim Rd district of Belfast. He was a Bachelor. He worked in the area but I don't know what type of work he did or where he is buried any help would be greatly appreciated such as Census entries. Kind Regards Michael Brennan Carlow IGP: http://www.igp-web.com/carlow/index.htm My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm

Hi Noel - Do you have any other specifics - a particular townland in Co. Cork? William's son's name? Perhaps he was killed in combat or died as a result of his wounds shortly thereafter. There are 163 records for CRONIN individuals at the Commonwealth War Graves Commission website (google CWGC), to include entries for Australian regiments/service. The data for those who died in WW-I, at least, often give the names and addresses of NEXT OF KIN. Perhaps something will look familiar. If fact, I would encourage other listers to check their surnames of interest at that CWGC website. IreAtlas -- Per the IreAtlas townland search engine at the Leitrim-Roscommon website, the following townlands, and towns ("T"), are in Aghada Civil Parish in Cork circa 1850. Townland AKA Acres County Barony Civil Parish PLU Province AGHADA (LOWER) T. xx Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster AGHADA (UPPER) T. xx Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster Aghada 488 Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster Ballinacarroonig 244 Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster Ballinbeg 96 Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster Ballynafarsid 120 Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster Ballynookery 395 Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster Ballysovane 84 Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster Buckstown 234 Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster Curragh 123 Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster FARSID T xx Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster Glenbradagh 113 Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster Hermitage 155 Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster Knockanemorney 227 Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster Mosestown 158 Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster Peafield 17 Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster WHITEGATE T. xx Cork, E.R. Imokilly Aghada Middleton Munster J. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noel O'Keeffe" <nokeeffe@indigo.ie> To: <irelandgenweb@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 7:25 AM Subject: Re: [Irish Genealogy] Emigration to Australia > > Hi Folks, This is a total long shot. I'm trying to trace a William Cronin who was born 17.01.1865 in parish of Aghada to David Cronin & Johanna Wall. > > I'm told that he went to Australia but I have no further information. > Theonly thing I was told by relatives some years ago that a son of > Williams was in Australian Forces during WW1 or WW2 and was supposed to > visit his Irish > relatives but he didn't show. > > Any help would be appreciated. Regards > Noel

SNIPPET: Very useful site, CWGC (Commonwealth War Graves Commission) now at http://www.cwgc.org/ A site that honors the fallen. Lots of information here, including a soldier name search engine and personal data on military and civilian Commonwealth-related war deaths for WWI and WWII, other. Oftentimes, names and addresses are given of next of kin (at least, in reference to WWI), some of whom were living in Ireland. You can also identify particular military units or regiments such as the Connaught Rangers, etc.

THE LOW FIELD Sitting on this smooth well worn granite rock, Where my father and his father before him sat At the foot of Slieve Gullion Mountain Smoking a Players Number Six. I draw in the air of the freshly turned soil, Tracing the straight lines of the drills in my mind Seeing the fertile auburn earth gently parted Lying open, awaiting the life-giving seed. At the foot of Slieve Gullion is my high field And further down the low road, the low field, >From this rock I see both, bordered by stone ditches And smooth flowing shucks, just as my forefathers did. In the purple heather breeze I hear their words echo, "Plough high down by the holly trees, watch the rocks, Keep the plough board straight, reins tight. Son, a man's known by the line of his drill." Come harvest time the neighbors will gather, The women fresh faced with big heaving bosoms In floral aprons, tied twice round their broad waists, Flattened with boned stays and flannel petticoats. They bring tae, buttermilk and soda farls To men with yellow nicotine beards, who stop to eat, Smoke and talk, as freckled children chase frogs And collect dawking leaves to cure the sting of nettles. When the mist comes down o'er the mountain Weary workers plod home through ditch lined lonans, Up to half doors, removing dirt stained boots. Women tell the weather by the way the fire lights, The men, bone sore, bathe callused feet in warm salted water, Children, tired from play, fall asleep by the fire. Finally the wearied foks retire to feather ticks Where life is made and life departs. In the high field, surrounded by the mist that caps Slieve Gullion The damp evening air seeps into my bones, I head home, past Chambrey's and the Protestant School, Past white washed homes with familiar smells, Fresh oven baked bread, churned butter, Turf scented smoke swells to form a nebulous cone. In the evening solitude, life creeps up through furrowed soil And the bells of Dromintee Chapel ring. -- Sheenagh M. O'Rourke (1995) (The Slieve Gullion Mnts. are in Co. Armagh)

ADDED NOTE: William BULFIN, (1861-1910), was the author of "Rambles in Eirinn" (1907), a popular work based on a cycle tour of Ireland in 1902. Born in Derrinlough, Co. Offaly, BULFIN became editor-proprietor of 'The Southern Cross' in Argentina. BULFIN introduced hurling to Argentina and wrote the 1907 two-volume travel classic, "Rambles in Eirinn, as well as "Tales of the Pampas," a collection of humorous and revealing stories about the Irish in Argentina. William Bulfin's little great-great grandson, Billy BULFIN, has a charming website at which he tells the family story: http://www.iol.ie/~batespd/billy.WEB/bulfin.htm. Per the free surname search at www.ireland.com/ancestor/ (where one can learn more specifics for a small fee): The table below shows the number of BULFIN households in each county in the Primary Valuation property survey of 1848-64: Dublin city 3 Laois (Queen's Co.) 1 Offaly (King's Co.) 5 Tipperary 5 SURNAME DICTIONARY/ SLOINNTE NA h-EIREANN Bulfin fairly rare: Tipperary. An uncommon English name, poss. a variant of Bullfinch. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com> To: <IrelandGenWeb-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 4:50 PM Subject: [Irish Genealogy] Description of Derry, circa 1907 - Wm. BULFIN > SNIPPET: 1907 -- "It (Derry) started life with a hot temper and it has > never cooled down.<snip>

Jacquie many thanks for those two records - they will be put in the files! Mary

SNIPPET: 1907 -- "It (Derry) started life with a hot temper and it has never cooled down. It has been something of a storm centre all though the ages. And it is a storm centre to-day. You cannot look upon it without a quickening of the pulses. Something of its rugged history speaks to you out of its quaint old streets. It sits there squarely astride of the Foyle under wild Inishowen, the weather-beaten citadel of the fighting North. It slopes sheerly down to the river after climbing several hills, which give some of its causeways the appearance of trying to stand on end. During the frosty weather all vehicle traffic ceases in several precipitous thoroughfares, and the popular sport of sliding begins. You may call it tobogganing or sleigh-flying or anything you please. It consists of sitting on a board or in a basket and flying down the slippery gradient at the rate of several miles per minute. There are certain arrangements made by which the sliders shall not be dashed to pieces, or across the river into Tyrconnel; but this is a matter of detail. With Bowden brakes you can ride a bicycle down one of those Derry streets; but you would require a ten horse-power engine to work your cranks in the upward direction. If you want to see Derry you must go to work on foot. Go over the bridge and climb the hills on the off side of the river when evening comes, and you will appreciate the situation. Tier over tier of lights shine out from the steamers and electric lamps along the water front right up into the sky. Shops, clubs, long lines of factories, depots and private houses - all contribute something to the illumination. They are perched at different altitudes on the slopes of the hills, some of them having their foundations many feet over the level of the tall roofs of other. Let us now turn to other phases of Derry's lumpiness. Your rambles through the streets reveal them to you. Here is a Catholic seminary; here is a Presbyterian one. Here is the Orange Hall; here is St. Columcille's Hall. Here is a street in which live militant Catholics, here alongside, radiating from a common centre, is a street in which live militant Orangemen. Here is a newspaper office from which issue periodical challenges to Croppies; here is another newspaper office from which said challenges are hurled back with interest. Here are the old 17th century walls of the city which were manned by Cromwellians in 1648. Here are the historic gates slammed by the "prentice boys" in the face of the Catholic army of James 40 years later. Here are the landmarks left by Columcille; here is the trophy statue to the soldier-pastor who made Derry one of the strongholds of Protestantism." - William Bulfin, "Rambles in Eirinn," 1907

THE PATTERN Little has come down to me of hers, a sewing machine, a wedding band, a clutch of photos, the sting of her hand across my face in one of our wars when we had grown bitter and apart. Some say that's the fate of the eldest daughter. I wish now she'd lasted till after I'd grown up. We might have made a new start as women without tags like "mother, wife, sister, daughter," taken our chance from there. At forty-two she headed for god knows where. I've never gone back to visit her grave. First she'd scrub the floor with Sunlight soap, an armreach at a time. When her knees grew sore she'd break for a cup of tea, then start again at the door with lavender polish. The smell would percolate back through the flat to us, her brood banished to the bedroom. As she buffed the wax to a high shine did she catch her own face coming clear? Did her mirror tell what mine tells me? I have her shrug and go in knowing history has brought her to her knees. She'd call us in and let us skate around in our socks. We'd grow solemn as plants in an intricate orbit about her. She bending over crimson cloth, the younger kids are long in bed. Late summer, cold enough for a fire, she works by fading light to remake an old dress for me. It's first day back at school tomorrow. "Pure lambswool - Plenty of wear in it yet. You know I wore this when I went out with your Da. I was supposed to be down in a friend's house, your Granda caught us at the corner. He dragged me in by the hair - it was long as yours then - in front of the whole street. He called your Da every name under the sun, cornerboy, lout; I needn't tell you what he called me. He shoved my whole head under the kitchen tap, took a scrubbing brush and carbolic soap and in ice-cold water he scrubbed every spick of lipstick and mascara off my face. Christ but he was a right tyrant, your Granda. It'll be over my dead body anyone harms a hair of your head." She must have stayed up half the night to finish the dress. I found it airing at the fire, three new copybooks on the table and a bright bronze nib, St. Christopher strung on a silver wire, as if I were embarking on a perilous journey to uncharted realmss. I wore that dress with little grace. To me it spelt poverty, the stigma of the second hand. I grew enough to pass it on by Christmas to the next in line. I was sizing up the world beyond our flat patch by patch daily after school, and fitting each surprising city street to city square to diamond. I'd watch the Liffey for hours pulsing to the sea and the coming and going of ships, certain that one day it would carry me to Zanzibar, Bombay, the Land of the Ethiops. There's a photo of her taken in the Phoenix Park alone on a bench surrounded by roses as if she had been born to formal gardens. She stares out as if unaware that any human hand held the camera, wrapped entirely in her own shadow, the world beyond her already a dream, already lost. She's eight months pregnant. Her last child. Her steel needles sparked and clacked, the only other sound a settling coal or her sporadic mutter at a hard place in the pattern. She favored sensible shades: Moss Green, Mustard, Beige. I dreamt a robe of a color so pure it became a word. Sometimes I'd have to kneel an hour before her by the fire, a skein around my outstretched hands, while she rolled wool into balls. If I swam like a kite too high amongst the shadows on the ceiling or flew like a fish in the pools of pulsing light, she'd reel me firmly home, she'd land me at her knees. Tongues of flame in her dark eye she'd say, "One of these days I must teach you to follow a pattern." -- Paula Meehan, born 1955 Dublin.