Well, the other problem is that I don't know the original name, so I don't know whether we're Havilands, as in the ones from England and the China, or Havlin, or what. Until I can trace back John and Ann "Havlin", born around 1780 in Ireland, and Roger and Cecilia "Havlin", born at the same time in Ireland (their daughter Ann married John, the son of John and Ann Havlin), I don't know how to proceed any further, even to find out what the name originally was. It changes in records from one spelling to another. When I started searching on the internet I was firmly informed that there were NONE of THE Havilands from Ireland, but I keep finding listings in the census for them all over the place, so I refuse to dismiss the possibility. Anyway, that's where I'm at. On my mother's side I have a surplus of Taylors in England to sort through..the same story..George, son of Thomas Taylor, married Mary, daughter of John Taylor..but at least I have their birthplaces...Linda H.

Linda are you on the research site for Ireland at MY FAMILY.COM? Emma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda H." <avonlindah@hotmail.com> To: <IRELAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [Irish-Roots] BRICKWALLS > Well, the other problem is that I don't know the original name, so I don't > know whether we're Havilands, as in the ones from England and the China, > or Havlin, or what. Until I can trace back John and Ann "Havlin", born > around 1780 in Ireland, and Roger and Cecilia "Havlin", born at the same > time in Ireland (their daughter Ann married John, the son of John and Ann > Havlin), I don't know how to proceed any further, even to find out what > the name originally was. It changes in records from one spelling to > another. When I started searching on the internet I was firmly informed > that there were NONE of THE Havilands from Ireland, but I keep finding > listings in the census for them all over the place, so I refuse to dismiss > the possibility. Anyway, that's where I'm at. On my mother's side I have a > surplus of Taylors in England to sort through..the same story..George, son > of Thomas Taylor, married Mary, daughter of John Taylor..but at least I > have their birthplaces...Linda H. > > ==== IRELAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Plant your Irish roots here! > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx